9/11 and Truth Movement related Timeline

[ref]

In here I have compiled old information, some new information, and put it all in a timeline. I hope this helps further to clarify the sequence of events and the time passed between the events. I sincerely hope the mods will allow the linked image, it is from my own site and it is bigger the than images I am able to upload to my images here at JREF, but it is essential in this thread.

In case something does not show right, this compilation can also be found here: http://911guide.googlepages.com/timeline

This is a timeline of 9/11 and truth movement related events/releases. Included is a column indicating the number of days passed since 9/11. If there is an exact date available, the number of days passed is also exact. If there is not an axact date available (for example March 2003), then a "+" sign will indicate the mininum number of days passed (for example March 1, 2003 is 536 days from 9/11, thus "March 2003" is marked as 536+). The so-called official reports are marked with a yellow background.

Links to information used in compiling this timeline are below the image.

http://911guide.googlepages.com/Timeline.JPG/Timeline-full;init:.JPG

Links to the information used:
The history of common conspiracy theories (http://911guide.googlepages.com/history)
Truthers exposed (http://911guide.googlepages.com/truthersexposed)
The Michael C. Ruppert article (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html)
Loose Change film & crew history (http://www.loosechange911.com/films.shtml)
ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report (http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf)
NIST Final Reports on WTC 1 & 2 (http://wtc.nist.gov/reports_october05.htm)
FEMA WTC Building Performance Study (http://www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm)
9/11 Commission Report (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/)
Who influenced who – WTC demolition edition (http://911guide.googlepages.com/influences)
William Rodriguez information (http://911stories.googlepages.com/)
Kevin Ryan letter (http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-11-11-ryan.php)
David Ray Griffin books (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?_encoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=David%20Ray%20Griffin)
911myths.com background (http://911guide.googlepages.com/mikew)
911truth.org background (http://911truthy.org/about.htm)
911blogger.com background (http://www.911blogger.com/FAQ)
9/11 Mysteries background (http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=72)
Article on Screw Loose Change (http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-08-09/news/the-yoda-of-9-11/)
Popular Mechanics book (http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Myths-Conspiracy-Theories/dp/158816635X)
The 84% poll interpretation and links to the poll (http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/poll_only_16_percent_believe_gov_on_911.htm)
911blogger.com broadens its mandate (http://www.911blogger.com/node/11)
September 11, 2008 truth movement event & donations (http://www.wearechange.org/91108/)

[DC]

you need a hobby or a life :)

[Rika]

This might be a hobby to him you know.

ETA: Good job, ref!

[ref]

Well, I had compiled most of the information before. I just put it all together in a new way. It's not like I started it all from scratch :)

And since I'm not paid to do this, you can call this a hobby then :cool:

There is not much to debunk nowadays anyway, so why not do something that might still be useful.

[TheRedWorm]

Good job, ref.

[grmcdorman]

Ref, do you have this in a non-image format (e.g. text, spreadsheet)? I'd like to see if I can a) convert it to a BB table format and b) give you a better format for the Google pages.

The image is rather unwieldy; not only does it not scale - and doesn't work for people with screen readers - it can be rather wide.

(Note that I can read it; I'd just rather not retype the whole thing.)

ETA: The table format in a post here could look like this:
9/11|# Days passed|
September 11, 2001|0|Alex Jones claims an inside job ...
September 13, 2001|2|The ...


ETA 2: This could be produced more or less automatically from a CSV file. Don't know about the multiple column blocks, though.

Raw code:

9/11|# Days passed|
September 11, 2001|0|Alex Jones claims an inside job ...
September 13, 2001|2|The Peter Meyer article ...

[zorro99]

I would add the military tribunals in there somewhere, which started last week. I think volumes of new information related to the attacks will come out of them.

[ref]

Ref, do you have this in a non-image format (e.g. text, spreadsheet)? I'd like to see if I can a) convert it to a BB table format and b) give you a better format for the Google pages.

The image is rather unwieldy; not only does it not scale - and doesn't work for people with screen readers - it can be rather wide.

(Note that I can read it; I'd just rather not retype the whole thing.)

ETA: The table format in a post here could look like this:
9/11|# Days passed|
September 11, 2001|0|Alex Jones claims an inside job ...
September 13, 2001|2|The ...

ETA 2: This could be produced more or less automatically from a CSV file. Don't know about the multiple column blocks, though.

Raw code:

9/11|# Days passed|
September 11, 2001|0|Alex Jones claims an inside job ...
September 13, 2001|2|The Peter Meyer article ...


I have it as an excel file. Does that help..?

[grmcdorman]

Yep. You can "save as" CSV, or just Excel (.xls). I use OpenOffice.org, but it reads most Microsoft Office documents just fine. (I do have MS office at work, but I avoid using it if at all possible.)

ETA: We can take it to PM from here, unless you want to post the Excel file on your Google web page.

[WildCat]

Why am I not surprised that the first book claiming "inside job" was done less than a month later by anti-semite and Holocaust denier Carol Valentine (http://www.public-action.com/)?

Truth movement, these are your founders.

[GwionX]

Good work Ref! I find the origins of these theories interesting..and as Wildcat stated, very telling.

When you add the early American Free Press stories, the Eric Hufschmid crapola, and the Carol Valentine slant it becomes clear that a 'certain' unseemly segment of of American society really wanted to see these conspiracies introduced.

[ref]

I changed the format on my page so, that there is a clickable image that opens up a new page with the full sized table.

WildCat: Actually that was not a book, but an online article. Nonetheless, most of the "original" theorists were either holocaust deniers or otherwise closely related to them. The minimum time it took them to make up these theories reveals their agenda.

Another thing I find interesting is the number of theories invented before one single proper investigation was finished. After the year 2002, the number of new theories has been almost non-existant. After that they have mainly concentrated on denying every single report released.

And look at the effect of the commission report. Suddenly Willie gets mad and Griffin releases a book denying the entire report after only 130 days from the release of the commission report.

2005 seems to be the year they really had positive truther things going on, that carried them to the success of 2006 and to their peak of 9/11 of 2006. After that, it's all downhill.

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

Great job!
It is now hanging in my wall!

[beachnut]

you need a hobby or a life :)
He took a time to presents facts on dates the major nut case ideas about 9/11 date were invented to fool gullible people.

"you need a hobby", an ironic statement, what we see may be considered a hobby... funny, keep up the evidence free, ironic, and wrong posts. It is neat to see a 9/11 truth apologist in action. Gaining knowledge now will only hurt your ability to be a great 9/11 truth member. Good post.

Is it your hobby to present these nut case ideas after they have been proven wrong a long time ago?

[beachnut]

I have it as an excel file. Does that help..?
Do you need a copy of Jones first paper?

[OldTigerCub]

Thanks, Ref.
I had thought about doing a "score card" .... a "which CTer believes what" sort of thing. Your timeline may be quite useful toward that.:D

[LashL]

Do you need a copy of Jones first paper?

Heh - it would be interesting, indeed, to add in all of the numerous versions of Jones's ludicrous "paper" that he never acknowledged along the way (until he was eventually forced into acknowledging some of them going forward).

In any event, nice work, ref.

[ref]

The those who are new to this, here is a recap of the colorful characters that invented all these theories back in 2001-2002.

Alex Jones - Need I say more?

David Rostcheck - A civil rights activist with the Pink Pistols. Writes some strange encrypted messages on his website. A year after 9/11 writes stuff like: "We know our enemies are Muslim extremists who hate the American way of life." and mentions no inside job, so seems like he has at least partly abandoned his earlier viewpoint. See here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=101025).

Peter Meyer - Alex Jones 2. To him everything is an inside job (http://www.serendipity.li/index.html). Avoids making overtly racist statements, but it links extensively (http://911review.com/denial/holocaust.html#serendipity) to sites like Public-Action.com and AmericanFreePress.net and features some racist articles.

Jared Israel - Strong supporter of Israel and an avid opposer of any anti-semitic conspiracy theories. Defended Slobodan Milosevic, and thinks the Srebrenica massacre was a hoax. In the 60’es worked for a peace publication called 'Minority of One' committed to exposing lies about foreign policy put forward both by American leaders and the mass media.

Carol Valentine - Holocaust denier (http://www.public-action.com) who runs the Waco Holocaust museum.

Michael C. Ruppert - Established the publication From The Wilderness, a watch dog group that exposes governmental corruption. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ruppert).

Gary North - Not what you would call a conspiracy theorist by standard. Gary has served (http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Writers/GaryNorth.html) as a senior staff member of the Foundation for Economic Education and as a research assistant to U.S. Congressman Ron Paul. Written hundreds of articles (http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north-arch.html), only some of them touching the conspiracy side. Runs his own (http://www.garynorth.com/) economic related website. Thinks the US had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor.

Jim McMichael - Seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth years ago. Maybe links to holocaust denial, since he linked to Carol Valentine articles and Carol Valentine linked to his article.

Rosalee Grable - A no-planer.

Gerard Holmgren - A no-planer guitarist from Australia.

Thierry Meyssan - President of the Voltaire network (http://www.voltairenet.org/en), which “aims at promoting freedom and secularism” and systematically attacks the Bush and Israeli administrations and accuse the USA of trying to establish a new world order. Believes the Beslan massacre was thought out and perpetrated by the CIA as an attempt by the USA to gain control of the resources of the Caspian Sea.

Eric Hufschmidt - A holocaust denier.


That's a pretty colorful bunch, I would say. More about some of these and many more characters in here (http://911guide.googlepages.com/truthersexposed).

[ref]

Do you need a copy of Jones first paper?

If you mean the original "Why indeed did the WTC collapse" thing, I have a copy :)

[ref]

Thanks, Ref.
I had thought about doing a "score card" .... a "which CTer believes what" sort of thing. Your timeline may be quite useful toward that.:D

If you do that, that would be nice :) Behind the links mentioned in the OP you will find more links to resources.

[beachnut]

If you mean the original "Why indeed did the WTC collapse" thing, I have a copy

It is in letter form, has 8 points and dated Sep 16 2005. Starts off like this: WTC collapses due to controlled demolition

Steven E. Jones

Professor of Physics/BYU

I believe WTC collapses to be due to controlled demolition are:

1. My own analysis of the "pancaking" floors model (the FEMA/NIST model) combined with Conservation of Momentum considerations gives a much longer time for the fall (over 10 seconds) than that which was actually observed for WTC-7 (about 6.3 seconds, just over the free-fall time of 6.0 seconds). I find no evidence in their reports that government researchers (FEMA, NIST, 9-11 Commission) included Conservation of Momentum in their analyses.
...

[ref]

It is in letter form, has 8 points and dated Sep 16 2005. Starts off like this:

Oh, I see I actually have a copy of a draft from November 2005 with more points, that is not the original one from September. My bad. You can send it to my 911guide at gmail dot com e-mail, if you will.

That November one reads "AFTERWARD" where it probably should read "AfterwOrd" :p

[The Director]

Hi REF,

I will be contacting you shortly about adding this great resource to my new Debunking site that will be launched soon.

This is top-notch work and it will continue to be a valuable resource. I cannot thank you enough.

[Brainster]

Excellent job Ref! I would add one more date, the one that I consider to be the key date in the history of the US 9-11 Troof Movement:

May 13, 2002. Article on the supposed success of Thierry Meyssan's book in France is published in Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901020520-237165,00.html). Time claims that the book had broken the sales record for the first month of a new book previously held by Madonna's Sex.

Hufschmid cites this article as inspiring him to release his work (previously stored on a website) as a book and later video. Looking at the timeline, Dylan may also have been inspired by the article. Visions of getting wealthy and famous began to inspire a flood of films and books that continues unabated to this day.

[ref]

Excellent job Ref! I would add one more date, the one that I consider to be the key date in the history of the US 9-11 Troof Movement:

May 13, 2002. Article on the supposed success of Thierry Meyssan's book in France is published in Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901020520-237165,00.html). Time claims that the book had broken the sales record for the first month of a new book previously held by Madonna's Sex.

Hufschmid cites this article as inspiring him to release his work (previously stored on a website) as a book and later video. Looking at the timeline, Dylan may also have been inspired by the article. Visions of getting wealthy and famous began to inspire a flood of films and books that continues unabated to this day.

One always forgets something :) I added this one. I will add others too, if I can find dates. For example, when was We Are Change formed?

[defaultdotxbe]

anyone have a link to when alex jones claimed the "next big terrorist attack will be an inside job" around june of 01? (the later claimed to have "predicted" 9/11?)

# days passed: -85 lol

[Dr Adequate]

For context, maybe you could add further attacks, e.g. Madrid, 7/7; and also release of OBL videos.

No mention of Keebler Elves? Clunkity-clunk? Those were seminal moments.

Oh, and there's no such word as "donators", you mean "donors".

[ref]

For context, maybe you could add further attacks, e.g. Madrid, 7/7; and also release of OBL videos.

Good ideas.

Oh, and there's no such word as "donators", you mean "donors".

Oops :D I have to correct that one.

[Dr Adequate]

Oh, here's a date for you. September 10 2002, premiere of PBS documentary America Rebuilds ... containing Larry Silverstein using the word "pull".

(Reference for date here (http://www.greatprojects.com/films.html)).

Hence for 2002 theories you should add: 'Pull' means 'destroy a building with explosives' when Larry Silverstein says it.

[Brainster]

One minor change on 9-11 Mysteries. The 7/15/05 event is the debut of a stage play which Sofia reworked into the film and released sometime in late 2006. The stage play featured Sofia Shafquat as a liberal Truther and Brad Waddell as a conservative whom she manages to convince that 9-11 was an inside job. In the actual movie Brad has only a minor role.

Some additions:

12/1/03: Leading Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean appears to endorse LIHOP (http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110004372) on the Diane Rehm Show by stating that the most interesting theory he's heard is that Bush was warned by the Saudis about 9-11. Dean later claimed that what he meant was that by not cooperating with the 9-11 Commission Bush was allowing these "interesting" conspiracy theories to develop, and there is definitely an indication of that in the continued conversation with Rehm, but the damage was done as his comments raced around the world. Dean lost his momentum, which had been considerable at that point.

3/25/02: In an interview with the Pacifica radio network, US Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney endorses LIHOP (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=66): "We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11.... What did this Administration know, and when did it know it about the events of September 11? Who else knew and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered?" McKinney was defeated in her reelection bid by a relatively unknown Democrat, with some crediting her 9-11 conspiracy theories as a major reason for her loss. She returned to Congress in 2004, and was beaten again in 2006, this time for reasons largely unrelated to her Truther sentiments.

I'd also note that 2005 is the starting point for Thermite/Thermate theories as espoused by Steven Jones.

[ref]

One minor change on 9-11 Mysteries. The 7/15/05 event is the debut of a stage play which Sofia reworked into the film and released sometime in late 2006. The stage play featured Sofia Shafquat as a liberal Truther and Brad Waddell as a conservative whom she manages to convince that 9-11 was an inside job. In the actual movie Brad has only a minor role.


Thanks for correcting that one!

I wrote about the play in July 17, 2005 and added the release date of 9/11 Mysteries Part 1: Demolitions, which was September 11th, 2006 on Google Video.

Also added Steven Jones in 2005 recap box.

[ref]

Oh, here's a date for you. September 10 2002, premiere of PBS documentary America Rebuilds ... containing Larry Silverstein using the word "pull".

(Reference for date here (http://www.greatprojects.com/films.html)).

Hence for 2002 theories you should add: 'Pull' means 'destroy a building with explosives' when Larry Silverstein says it.

I was going to add the "pull it", but I couldn't find proof of when the conspiracy theory surrounding this statement was born. Certainly not on the same day the documentary was aired. Maybe I could just add the date of the doc regardless.

I decided not to list the 7/7 and Madrid bombings, since they are not so closely related to 9/11 theories, and this is not a full terror timeline.

[Dr Adequate]

I was going to add the "pull it", but I couldn't find proof of when the conspiracy theory surrounding this statement was born. Certainly not on the same day the documentary was aired. Maybe I could just add the date of the doc regardless. Ah, good call. I'd been assuming it was when the documentary was first aired, but no.

The date you want is January 2004.

According to infowars (http://infowars.net/articles/march2007/140307Silverstein.htm):

Questions about the highly suspicious nature of the building's collapse remained comparatively muted until January 2004, when a PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, originally broadcast in September 2002, received attention across the Internet.

The documentary was made infamous for one comment made by Larry Silverstein on the subject of 9/11. Larry Silverstein states, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

Here's the point at which they find out about it (http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/01/279147.shtml):

In a stunning and belated development concerning the attacks of 9/11 Larry Silverstein, the controller of the destroyed WTC complex, stated plainly in a PBS documentary that he and the FDNY decided jointly to demolish the Solomon Bros. building, or WTC 7, late in the afternoon of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001.

This admission appeared in a PBS documentary originally aired in Sept. of 2002 entitled "America Rebuilds".

This piece is dated 25th January 2004.

I think that pins it down; you could try looking at Truthy forums around January 2004 as a triple-check, if any of them have intact archives that far back.

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I think you should give the date for the initial screening as well, 'cos it's quite funny that the first time Larry Silverstein's "confession" was broadcast, no-one in the world noticed that it could bear a Truthish interpretation. I wonder how many people saw it.

[ref]

Ah, good call. I'd been assuming it was when the documentary was first aired, but no.

The date you want is January 2004.

According to infowars (http://infowars.net/articles/march2007/140307Silverstein.htm):
Questions about the highly suspicious nature of the building's collapse remained comparatively muted until January 2004, when a PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, originally broadcast in September 2002, received attention across the Internet.

The documentary was made infamous for one comment made by Larry Silverstein on the subject of 9/11. Larry Silverstein states, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
Here's the point at which they find out about it (http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/01/279147.shtml):
In a stunning and belated development concerning the attacks of 9/11 Larry Silverstein, the controller of the destroyed WTC complex, stated plainly in a PBS documentary that he and the FDNY decided jointly to demolish the Solomon Bros. building, or WTC 7, late in the afternoon of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001.

This admission appeared in a PBS documentary originally aired in Sept. of 2002 entitled "America Rebuilds".
This piece is dated 25th January 2004.

I think that pins it down; you could try looking at Truthy forums around January 2004 as a triple-check, if any of them have intact archives that far back.


It seems the "Pull it" theory really started getting attention in January 2004 after Alex Jones reported it, but I think this is what started it all. The original Jeremy Baker article seems to be dated back to August 2003 (http://www.positiontoknow.com/S-11/pullit/Pullit.html). It then took a while for the hype to develop.

[ref]

Now I found it!

That August post was the first post directly blaming Silverstein for "Pulling It".

But HERE Jeremy Baker discusses the Pull It -theory (http://www.physics911.ca/Baker:_Disturbing_Questions_Surrounding_the_Collap se_of_WTC_6_and_7) for the first time, back in June 2003. His suspicions started in March 2003.


But then one night in March 2003 I'm watching a PBS program called "America Rebuilds; aYear at Ground Zero" (originally broadcast September of 2002). It was of course typical PBS, very slick and professional, scripted narration, excellent graphics. I didn't think anything of it when Kevin Spacey mentioned towards the beginning that "WTC 4, 5 and 6 were left standing but were damaged beyond repair. WTC 7 fell after burning for 7 hours." Why would I? It's been the party line all along. I didn't notice either when, later on, a worker commented "...well, we're getting ready to "pull" building 6," moments before demolishing its gutted carcass. But when Larry Silverstein was featured later in the broadcast and said the following, my ears perked right up;

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'Well, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is 'pull' it, and they made that decision to 'pull,' uh, and we watched the building [WTC 7] collapse."

Well! This is a rather startling revelation. It leads one, of course, to speculate on several fronts. First off , which is it guys!? Did the damn thing melt and collapse or was it "pulled"! Are you honestly saying that Larry Silverstein and the FDNY decided to "pull" building 7, kept their little secret all those months while FEMA and its team of civil engineers conducted an official and extensive investigation, and then, months after the study's completed, Loose-Tongue Larry and NY's finest all of a sudden announce, "oh, we're sorry, did we forget to mention it was us?" And Mr. Silverstein, if you and the FDNY did "pull" WTC 7 why would Kevin Spacey (and the rest of the world and national media) say that it "fell after burning..."? Wouldn't he have said something like "WTC 7 was determined to be unstable and the decision was made to bring it down"? What the hell is going on here?

As if all this weren't crazy enough don't overlook the chief point here. In light of this new data from Mr. Silverstein, this "crazy" idea of pre-installed explosives all of a sudden becomes quite a bit more, well, less crazy! The only thing I can come up with in Larry's defense is that he and the FDNY did some kind of quickie demolition job, tossed some kind of devices inside the building (which, according to Hoyle, was buried under tons of rubble and burning so badly that it was in danger of collapse), and then "pulled." Maybe this is something that big city fire people do on occasion, but if it is it's definately a cover story for Fire Engineering monthly!

Which leaves the only other explanation I can come up with. And that's that WTC 7 was pre-wired to explode in a professionally executed controlled demolition, a concept that is at the heart of the "unofficial" version of events most commonly supported by the present crop of "unofficial" investigators and those theorists who believe that there's quite a bit more to the story of 9/11 than what we've been told.

If the attacks happened to have been an inside job (there, I said it) Mr. Silverstein's reference to "pulling" WTC 7 is one big, fat, shining star stuck to the foreheads of the pro-explosives people and provides an exponential boost in creedance to those theorists who believe that the WTC towers may as well have been rigged with explosives prior to the attacks of 9/11. And most disturbingly, it supports the idea of non-Arab involvment in a "black op" of biblical proportions.

Finally we can pinpoint how and by whom the PULL IT started. I will definitely add this to the timeline (all the changes I make will appear in the OP table as well).

I also added the Pull It developments to my History page (http://911guide.googlepages.com/history).


ETA: Seems Mr. Baker still pretty much supports the theory he started. He has devoted an entire article to defending his Pull It stand, written in July 2008, found here (http://drkprnts.wordpress.com/%e2%80%9c%e2%80%a6that-decision-to-pull%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d-six-years-later/).

[Dr Adequate]

Thanks for the Jeremy Baker information.

Can I copy your timeline to the SkepticWiki?

[Brainster]

Here's the earliest comparison I can find to Operation Northwoods, dated September 17, 2001 (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.new-world-order/browse_thread/thread/2602893283f8c86b/78abe78132aa7884?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#78abe78132aa7884):

11 Sept 2001 - Another Operation Northwoods?

(snip)

The following excerpt from James Bamford's "Body of Secrets: Anatomy
of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency" (Doubleday, 2001)
provides very disturbing information that is directly relevant to the
events of September 11, 2001.

The piece is uncredited, but the date in the title is written as a European would, not as an American would. The article apparently came from this website (http://www.blythe.org/), which appears to be an odd mixture of conspiracy theory, antiwar activities and Fidel Castro cheerleading.

Also, a key entry:

March 2002: Hunt the Boeing website comes out. The Website is gone, but you can see what it looked like here (http://web.archive.org/web/20020802051904/http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm). Extremely influential website in promoting the "no Boeing at the Pentagon" claims.

[Brainster]

Some more theories to emerge in 2002:

Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management in WTC-7 was the command center for attacks, homing beacons in WTC-7 guided the planes to their targets.

Both are mentioned as theories at Eric Hufschmid's AOL page as of 8/5/02 (http://web.archive.org/web/20020805023728/http://members.aol.com/erichuf/).

# Was Mayor Giuliani's "Emergency Command Center" in Building 7 the control center for destroying the World Trade Center?
# Was Building 7 the source of a homing signal for the two airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Center?

[ref]

Thanks for the Jeremy Baker information.

Can I copy your timeline to the SkepticWiki?

Yes, of course.

[ref]

Also, a key entry:

March 2002: Hunt the Boeing website comes out. The Website is gone, but you can see what it looked like here (http://web.archive.org/web/20020802051904/http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm). Extremely influential website in promoting the "no Boeing at the Pentagon" claims.

And you know what. Killtown names Hunt The Boeing as his truther influence. Thanks a lot, Meyssan!


What was it for SJones (the triggering point that made him think 9/11 was an inside job)? What was it for you, K? And what do you think brought the towers down?

1) That's what I want to find again, because as I recall on the TV news video I saw him say what convinced him, it sounded unbelievable.
2) Hunt the Boeing.
3) Not planes or fire.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=41619&t=96298

[e^n]

ref, is there any chance of you using a PNG instead of JPG for your image? It is a bit of a pet hate of mine :)

[Dr Adequate]

Yes, of course. Thank you. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but could I have it as text so I can reformat it as a wiki table without retyping the whole thing? Thanks.

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Oh, could I suggest under May 2002: "Dylan Avery begins writing "Loose Change", which at this point he intends as a fictional story?" Otherwise someone might take your statement about it being "fictional" as mere editorial comment.

[AJM8125]

Excellent work.

IMO, Richard Gage's self-implosion and cardboard box fiasco should be included as the 2008 compilation is finalized.

This event was so damaging to the truth movement that some of the hardcore truthers on another board I frequent now refer to Gage as a disinfo agent. Gotta love that.

[ref]

Thank you. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but could I have it as text so I can reformat it as a wiki table without retyping the whole thing? Thanks.

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Oh, could I suggest under May 2002: "Dylan Avery begins writing "Loose Change", which at this point he intends as a fictional story?" Otherwise someone might take your statement about it being "fictional" as mere editorial comment.

I will modify the Avery part, good suggestion. Is an .xls file good for reformatting? I only have this as an .xls and .jpg.

PM me your e-mail address if you want the excel..

[ref]

ref, is there any chance of you using a PNG instead of JPG for your image? It is a bit of a pet hate of mine :)

Let me see what I can do. I might get rid of the image. I'll do some formatting next week. Now I'm still on vacation :)

[Dr Adequate]

I will modify the Avery part, good suggestion. Is an .xls file good for reformatting? I only have this as an .xls and .jpg.

PM me your e-mail address if you want the excel. I think probably the best thing is if you go to XL, highlight it, copy it, and then paste it into a PM as text. I'll sort it out from there. That should work.

(The reason I want to do this is that if I reformat it as a wiki table, I can put links in it.)

[Dr Adequate]

That worked, thanks.

Truth Movement Timeline.

As usual, you're credited on the discussion page for the article.

Oh, I picked up a couple of typos: "arabs" should be capitalized, and "neglegance" should be "negligence".

[LashL]

That worked, thanks.

Truth Movement Timeline.


Nicely done, Dr Adequate.

[Dr Adequate]

A question.

Some of these google trends results for "9/11 Truth" correspond well to events on the timeline.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1197/truthergraphod6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Others do not. What happened in March 2006 ... apart from Richard Gage becoming a Truther? ... or was that it?

[ref]

A question.

Some of these google trends results for "9/11 Truth" correspond well to events on the timeline.

[/URL][URL]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1197/truthergraphod6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Others do not. What happened in March 2006 ... apart from Richard Gage becoming a Truther? ... or was that it?

I think that was the time, when Loose Change 2nd Edition really started gaining momentum in the interwebs.

[orphia nay]

I think the question is possibly about April 2006, but I think ref is onto something.

On April 5, 2006, the creators of the 9/11 conspiracy documentary “Loose Change” and their supporters decided to attend the premiere of the film “United 93,” about the hijacked airplane that crashed on 9/11. They wanted to take the opportunity to expose the alleged lies about this flight, and in the words of one “Loose Change” forum member, to “bite these bastards where it hurts, and have this Fight 93 movie backfire on them.”

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html

[MaGZ]

You missed the Israeli Art Students.
You have to include this unless you think it is an established fact the Israelis had the hijackers under surveillance.
Here is a link, including a timeline, to get you started.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Art_Students

[MaGZ]

ref,

Do you plan on including the Israeli Art Students in your timeline?

[ref]

ref,

Do you plan on including the Israeli Art Students in your timeline?

Maybe. I'm thinking of other possible additions as well. As you know, I have not covered every single detail.