Ranke Pimping a New DVD Live on The Damage Report Radio Show

[Mr.Herbert]

Tune in 2-4PM PST today July 30th on www.LATalkRadio.com

Call in live 818.602.4498

I will be in the studio discussing this explosive new presentation we are about to release containing a whole slew of new north side evidence as well as the critical first flyover witness account.

SOMEONE please call in today and shut this jackass up!

[Arus808]

sorry, im at work, and unfortunately, it would be weird to discuss explosives in an office environment


anyone want to record this?

[Reheat]

It must have been the mere announcement of this that caused the Earth Quake in Southern CA yesterday!

[Mr.Herbert]

I went to the site. It is repeated later on this evening. I will be on the road, so I will miss it.

[Arus808]

well, the host is "good" friends with Ranke, and sounds like he's a 911 truther, despite having a cousin die at the Pentagon.

its already woo, in the first minute.

[Arus808]

...and Ranke starts off with a long debunked canard of there were no signs of a plane at the Pentagon, in all the rubble.

[Arus808]

...and my audio cut out.. ohs wells...dont think anything new will be presented anyway...

[Mr.Herbert]

He is going on and on with the same old crap. Nothing new yet.

Anyone have a question? I will call in

[Mr.Herbert]

i have 15 minutes untill I have to leave......

[Arus808]

have him explain why his own witnesses claim they saw the plane hit hte pentagon?
have him explain why DNA evidence was found in the pentagon, and identified all but 2 of the passengers?
Have him explain how 1000's of workers described plane debris, and smelt jet fuel...etc

all the same questions he ignores.

[Arus808]

Or why he hasn't gone to the "authorities' like he was supposed to do in 2007 with all this "damning" evidence? why is he selling DVD's instead of brining people responsible to court?

[Mr.Herbert]

calling now

[Arus808]

wish i could hear. audio went down on their listen live.

[Mr.Herbert]

i was on for a while.... ***** i am going to miss my ride.

[LashL]

Nicely done, Mr. Herbert. :)


I'm still listening, nothing new from Ranke. I'll post notes later.

[LashL]

Rob Balsamo calls in. Certainly won't be anything new there, I'm sure.

[Arus808]

ne1 have a chance to record? please do. Im unable, as the audio cut out on the listen live for me.

[beachnut]

The dolts are saying...

Government has seeded people into the forums…

CR says
Operatives , there are operatives out there.
CR says there are people
Dedicate their lives to refuting us

Dolts on line! These guys are pure nuts. How can 3 people be so stupid and not explode.

[dudalb]

What kind of fringe benefits do you get for seeding a forum?

So I did not miss much by not listening? Somehow I thought as much.

[T.A.M.]

I love it.

I hope they get a spot on the radio every week where they can claim there are "operatives" being "seeded on to the forums." The paranoia in these kooks cracks me up. A real case study.

TAM:)

[Calcas]

He just said Aldo has a brilliant mind...

And, this gem pertaining to the witnesses.

"When they say 'I saw the plane hit the Pentagon', what they mean is that 'I saw the plan and I believe it hit the Pentagon.'

[beachnut]

CIT, the Pentacon, how ironic, "con" is in the title. I want a raise, it hurts to listen to 3 idiots, yet 2 may be baiting the cretin to make it real entertainment.
They, who are they? Poor paranoid nut case - pure nut case ideas.
They are willing to kill a lot of people… my nations is under assault… CR
This may cause...
End of our republic.. CR
On how many of "them/they" are need.
Many dozens of people involved.. CR
On UBL and the 19 terrorist.
UBL was involve on some level… no way physically involve at all… CR
About them, or they, but no idea who they are?
Deep cover people… Fully aware… CR


I want action, CR 2008, July 30

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/standup.jpg

http://www.latalkradio.com/Player_flash2.shtml pure stupid live! dolts r us
Theories, … are irrelevant… CR

[Calcas]

More quotes:

"Despite the fact that we have evidence that the plane didn't hit the building, CIT refuses theory."

"We're risking our LIVES!"

"Lloyd England is lying...he's an important part of the propaganda...right away we knew his story was false...it proves his complicity beyond a reasonable doubt..."

Re: the C-130 pilot. "His statements contradict the radar data...we use eyewitness testimony..."

First responders: "They don't question what's going on...they're taught not to ask questions...they just do their job...they don't know that a plane flew away..."

More to come..

[Arus808]

so, thye just called every one liars.

[Calcas]

Congressional hearings: "I don't know what's going to happen...it's so deep and so complicated...the evidence proves that they (the GOVT) is guilty..."

That's it. Too bad I only caught the last 1/2 hour.

Did they take any calls?

The show will be available for download tomorrow.

[LashL]

There was one phone call early on from, it appears, Mr. Herbert. Then there was a short one from Rob Balsamo but he was "running out of minutes" and then another one from a retired dentist who is a member of pffffffft.

[LashL]

Mostly, it was just the usual drivel by Ranke, but here are some of the notes I jotted down:

- regular media didn't talk to virtually anyone, and the accounts of published witnesses were vague;

- ranke wanted to get the exact flight path of the plane; wanted to find out exactly where it flew and if there were any discrepancies;

- you have to be at the "alleged" impact point to see what went down, have to be on route 27 right in front of the building to see the flight path;

- most people saw plane, heard explosion, and just assumed it hit;

- can't know what happened to the original plane;

- there is no evidence that the people on Flight 77 were anywhere near the Pentagon that day and no evidence that Flight 77 was anywhere near the Pentagon that day, but the plane is gone and "the government better start telling us where it went";

- first responders and civilian contractors were complicit;

- the first pentacon video didn't get the attention it deserves;

- dismisses the DNA evidence because it came from "the government";

- dismisses reports of bodies found still strapped into airplane seats by suggesting that cadavers and seats "must have been planted";

- when pressed by a caller about whether he's presented his evidence to the FBI, he said he's called them but they refuse to talk to him, but promises that "We’re gonna force them to respond";

- of the caller, he says, "I know this guy; he harasses me online with the same questions all the time";

[beachnut]

so, they just called every one liars.
They called you one of the government Operatives CR'
The also called you a seed? Government has seeded people into the forums… CR

[jhunter1163]

the first pentacon video didn't get the attention it deserves

ANY attention was more than that crapfest deserved.

[LashL]

More:

- Ranke still can't pronounce "incredulity" correctly;

- the host kept calling him "Scott" and explained that it was because when they used to work together, their sales manager's name was Craig, so Ranke had to use a different name (how weird);

- Frank DeMartini re: pencils and screen doors;

- they have approached media and authorities but are being ignored and avoided "like the plague";



- Pentagon police refused to talk to them, eventually set up a time and then person wouldn't give his name "so he wouldn’t be held accountable", so they're "gonna have to trick them into acknowledge" them;

- "we try to stay away from theories", evidence only, the plane flew north of the station, irreconcilable with the physical damage so there's no way the plane hit the building; so the theory could be flyover, but it’s not a theory, it’s the only choice, evidence proves it was north, which proves it didn’t hit, which proves it flew over. :boggled:


- Lloyd England is lying, probably in on it;

- lots of evidence of staging of the physical damage; light poles staged, nothing hit the poles;



- their "hypothesis" is that the destruction was covertly implemented with pre-planted explosives just like at the WTC;



- no legitimacy to the video evidence released by the government; it was manipulated, altered;

- their new smoking gun will be "impossible to refute";

- on Internet forums, about detractors, "a lot of them are operatives", some there to refute ranke specifically, anonymous individuals who pop up out of nowhere, most likely some of them are getting paycheques for it;

- title of the new video: "North side flyover - officially documented, independently confirmed";

- had to be many dozens involved; no way the official narrative is true; al qaeda may have been involved on some level but not as reported; maybe as patsies or assets, but not physically involved as reported;

- there are lots of deep cover assets who have lied to support the story;

- no public officials on record supporting them; the only one who expressed interest was Dennis Kucinich, who told Ranke that he would meet him but he never did;


- the "truth" movement is fractured on many levels, lots of disinfo, caution people about other sites, lots of infighting - "how much of that is staged, who knows?"; not too many research sites Ranke trusts any more;


- "We’re risking our lives." People we know are complicit in mass murder so you never know what’s gonna happen. Most people are afraid but we’re not afraid, we’re gonna get in their faces;



- first responders don't question at first, nobody does; first responders have a culture of secrecy, they're taught not to ask questions, they have no inclination to want to know what happened;

- "wanna be in front of a congressional hearing", will turn it over to anyone who is willing to take a look, bring the witnesses in, subpoena witnesses;


- Asked whether Ranke has any trouble at the pentacon website, "No, mostly, they ignore us."




Overall, the same old crap, the same old baseless and unsupported accusations, etc.

[Caustic Logic]

Comedy Improv Team. Here they are on the set of their audition for Comedy Central show "Citizen Investigation," sort of a dry humor/black humor 9/11-themed version of Punk'd
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/chainsawmoth/FrustratingFraud/CIT_interview.jpg

People who are worried about seeds should just go ahead and check the plants that grow from them. The dispersion is actually quite natural, shows no sign of conscious dispersal, and they are thriving on the fertilizer provided by nutty "truth" people like the CIT.

[Mr.Herbert]

Hi Guys,

I have never called into a radio show. (how minor the audience) I was a little nervous since I have never been involved in any debate. For the most part I am quiet in here. (besides a few jokes here and there)

I have to admit the host was very fair in allowing me to get my points across.

I wanted to be more aggressive with Ranke, but I didn't think that would be conducive to allowing me to get my points across.

That being said, i did notice that Ranke was stumped when it came to the civilian contractors.

He also claimed that the "cadaver" was planted.

Anyway...the replay will be interesting... hope you all enjoy. Feedback is appreciated.

[steve s]

[derail]After reading Ranke's nonsense it made me think of something. On shows like Law & Order they'll often have the court-appointed psychiatrist interview a suspect to see if he's mentally fit to stand trial.

Suppose Ranke were arrested for something and started spouting his nonsense which causes the police to order a psychiatric evaluation. What do you think the doctors diagnosis would be? Do you think he/she would find Ranke to be mentally ill?

Steve S.

[beachnut]

Interview with Roosevelt Roberts Jr., Waldorf, Maryland, November 30, 2001

Link on this page

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/911_archive/title_sound_recordingI1.html (http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/911_archive/title_sound_recordingI1.html)

Interesting he hears 77 hit, then goes to help get people out, and at this early date he say this happen 9:11, 9:12, (when he sees the second plane in the south parking lot) in the morning. Like all of us, we are telling the truth but the extact times are off, who takes down the time when you have to help people!

Poor Roosevelt, used by idiots; CIT.

[16.5]

Looks like Waldo got off his self imposed suspension after LC would not ban somebody who was mean to him (what a wussy). And he is back to his old spittle soaked self:

"All they can do is talk smack and produce quotes."

Remember, don't quote Lyte's quotes people, they hurt, and they make him look like a paranoid maniac.

"It will never go away you miserable bastards. NEVER. So keep talking about us, keep making threads about us, all while you announce to the world over and over how uneffective we are and how our evidence is just theory."

Hee, hee hee! "Uneffective." God, what a half wit this guy is.

[Calcas]

There was one phone call early on from, it appears, Mr. Herbert. Then there was a short one from Rob Balsamo but he was "running out of minutes" and then another one from a retired dentist who is a member of pffffffft.

Balsamo was "running out of minutes"?
:dl:

Not, "my phone is dying...the battery is gonna go..."

That's hilarious.

Translation: "I have a TracFone (like my 12 year old daughter) and I can't afford the 10 bucks it will cost me to stay on the line for 20 minutes while you guys talk to someone other than me."

Damn Rob, I know you and the rest of the CIT/pfttt crew will be reading this thread. But, how does it feel to realize that you can't spend 10 bucks without worrying how many more hats or coffee mugs it will take to make it up? :jaw-dropp

[Bobert]

As an FYI JD used to work at the same company as Ranke. He is a low rent comedian.
I just got in myself or I would have for sure been on the horn calling in.
WOW Ranke cant seem to get on any radio shows so he had to call an old co-worker to get him some airtime.
Pathetic.

[Mr.Herbert]

my excuse for leaving was genuine... i carpool (earthy crunchy/ 4 dollars a gallon) I gave the host a 5 minute heads up!

[Bobert]

If these FRAUDS had REAL EVIDENCE there would be reporters lined up AROUND THE BLOCK to be the first to break the biggest story EVER of US GOVERNMENT MASS MURDER.
Ranke is a complete liar that people are avoiding him like the plague. If his evidence were REAL they would be embracing him and he would be the biggest hero ever.

[bsw2009]

I continually come here to read threads concerning CIT for entertainment, and I come away more times than no, literally on the floor laughing.....In cognitive psychology, the limits of our memory is tested quite frequently, and in many different ways. Many significant events, including the one that CIT is "investigating," depend on reports from human observers. "A suprising finding is that there is no way to assess memory accuracy without objective evidence (hint, hint). The vividness or confidence of the person recalling the memory is not an accurate indication of the truth of the memory...memories cannot be trusted, no matter how adamant the recaller is about...the memory." At times, these "memories" are reported as very strong; however, inaccuracy is more probable than not. These "false memories" can be enacted by a number of variables, including less than professional interviewing tactics.

[LashL]

my excuse for leaving was genuine... i carpool (earthy crunchy/ 4 dollars a gallon) I gave the host a 5 minute heads up!


You were great, Mr. Herbert. And you were on for quite a long time, and yes, you gave a heads up long before you left, and I think you stayed even longer than 5 minutes after that (although I wasn't timing it, of course ;) )

Balsamo, on the other hand, was on for maybe 2 minutes, and said next to nothing. He sounded kind of "off", actually, not like his usual frothing-at-the-mouth self, and added nothing to the discussion. All he did was remind Ranke that Ranke had talked to some unidentified "first responder" who sent him a plaque or something like that, and then pimp the pffft site before he had to go because he was "running out of minutes."

:)

[Björn Toulouse]

........... He also claimed that the "cadaver" was planted............


So many points to discuss or refute in the 9/11 saga. The planting of cadavers intrigues me the most as to how someone can possibly believe that.

Try to imagine yourself being the lackey assigned to that detail on 9/11, the planting of a corpse strapped to an airplane seat inside The Pentagon. Imagine yourself hiding inside the Pentagon, hoping the explosion that is to come won't hurt you and then you and, if you are not Superman, your accomplices, hurriedly cart this obscene exhibit of burnt and pre-mangled flesh to a designated site to be identified later as crash victims of Flight 77. You hope that anyone who is drawn to the explosion is also "in on it" and won't rat you out for what they see you doing and all the while you admire them for having been so brave as to have remained so close to the site of the disaster, trusting our government to blow up precisely only a small section of the Pentagon. Or maybe you were waiting outside, inside of a deuce and a half with the corpse, and now you must hurriedly plant your cadaver assembly from the outside, while the whole world of morning commuters are now focused in your direction because of the smoke and noise and you must not be observed tiptoeing across the lawn with a smoking body.

There are many other scenarios of how this government terrorist and his accomplices managed to pull this off, all of which are totally insane.

Anyone who preaches or believes that cadavers were planted that day is not grounded in reality.

[Mr.Herbert]

thanks Lash... I was pissed...my ride was a few minutes late.(i could have stayed a couple more minutes)

Lets see if Ranke follows up with his word... that he will interview the first responders and the contractors that were involved in the renovations of wedge 1.

[Mr.Herbert]

Bjorn.....

EXACTLY!

I wanted Ranke to admit that the cadavers were planted. That was my goal. To show those that were listening how freaking ridiculous his theory is.(that didn't already know)

How were the thousands of pounds of airplane parts spread across the impact areas??

How was the DNA planted?

He cried his same old NOC crap.

I wish I were more knowledgeable in the FDR and aircraft maneuverability to debate that with him. I brought it up....and he was just as happy as I was not to discuss it.

[WildCat]

Did Craig invoke his see-saw analogy that makes all calculations moot?

[LashL]

Did Craig invoke his see-saw analogy that makes all calculations moot?

Not exactly, but he did blather on about it being impossible that the light pole could have hit Mr. England's car the way Mr. England said it did, and blathered on about it sticking up over the roof in a manner that made it "impossible" for it to have occurred without causing extensive damage to the outside of Mr. England's car.

No calculations were offered, of course. Just Ranke's own personal incredulity (which he still can't pronounce correctly).

[Bobert]

You have all done a great job in your review of Craig's performance today.
I must say this has to be Craig at his paranoid best!!!!!!
I would say his first responder comments are gong to come back to haunt him.
I would also say that he was successful in FURTHER ALIENATING himself from the truth movement with his disparaging comments about the truth movement.
he IMHO has now entered Dr. Woods territory.

[R.Mackey]

Aha, a new DVD.

That explains the explosion of CIT / Pilots For Truth shenanigans over here lately.

Money talks, or in this case, trolls...

[Bobert]

LOL
Craig actually thinks that he is sooooo important that people are getting paid to post on the internet about him.
LMAO!!!!

[Alareth]

A new video? What about the Pentacon researchers edition we were promised?

[PB&J]

A new video? What about the Pentacon researchers edition we were promised?

Too many quotes of witnesses actually admitting the plane hit the building.. i guess they felt it was too damaging? I personally wouldn't mind seeing the uncut footage of Steve Chaconas, but something tells me they won't do that either - for similar reasons.

Also, nice avatar... be careful though, they'll suspect you of being involved in some government telepathy program ;)

[Bobert]

Alareth,
Dude are you geting paid to post about the CIT/Ranke?!?!?!
I want in!!!!!
What is the pay?

[Jonnyclueless]

NWO Quote:

"Hey Bob! Hurry up and finish cuttin the top of the tree off so you can get that light pole in the taxi cab and get that charred body in the building. It's really stinking up the place and the cars sitting in traffic are starting to honk. "

[Alareth]

Too many quotes of witnesses actually admitting the plane hit the building.. i guess they felt it was too damaging? I personally wouldn't mind seeing the uncut footage of Steve Chaconas, but something tells me they won't do that either - for similar reasons.

Also, nice avatar... be careful though, they'll suspect you of being involved in some government telepathy program ;)

Pardon me sir, but I think you may be needed in this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=119633

[Bobert]

"Hey Steve shortest straw plants the DNA!"
"Ok Bill sounds good to me!!! Give me sec though I gotta go grab the hush money for the flight 77 passengers"
"Well lets get this done we still gotta go pay a visit to the 'Cabbie'"

[Caustic Logic]

You were great, Mr. Herbert. And you were on for quite a long time, and yes, you gave a heads up long before you left, and I think you stayed even longer than 5 minutes after that (although I wasn't timing it, of course ;) )

Balsamo, on the other hand, was on for maybe 2 minutes, and said next to nothing. He sounded kind of "off", actually, not like his usual frothing-at-the-mouth self, and added nothing to the discussion. All he did was remind Ranke that Ranke had talked to some unidentified "first responder" who sent him a plaque or something like that, and then pimp the pffft site before he had to go because he was "running out of minutes."

:)

Haha! I missed it too, but might listen later. Jeez, he might as well have said "hey, can I have some money?" Is he going the Jayhan way? Maybe he's not to keen on playing the old boys Comedy Circuit?

[T.A.M.]

I continually come here to read threads concerning CIT for entertainment, and I come away more times than no, literally on the floor laughing.....In cognitive psychology, the limits of our memory is tested quite frequently, and in many different ways. Many significant events, including the one that CIT is "investigating," depend on reports from human observers. "A suprising finding is that there is no way to assess memory accuracy without objective evidence (hint, hint). The vividness or confidence of the person recalling the memory is not an accurate indication of the truth of the memory...memories cannot be trusted, no matter how adamant the recaller is about...the memory." At times, these "memories" are reported as very strong; however, inaccuracy is more probable than not. These "false memories" can be enacted by a number of variables, including less than professional interviewing tactics.

Yes, on another thread concerning this issue, I posted a link to a wiki article on memory and trauma...I don't usually use Wiki, but this article was decent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_and_trauma

TAM:)

[TC329]

Interview with Roosevelt Roberts Jr., Waldorf, Maryland, November 30, 2001

Link on this page

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/911_archive/title_sound_recordingI1.html (http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/911_archive/title_sound_recordingI1.html)

Interesting he hears 77 hit, then goes to help get people out, and at this early date he say this happen 9:11, 9:12, (when he sees the second plane in the south parking lot) in the morning. Like all of us, we are telling the truth but the extact times are off, who takes down the time when you have to help people!

Poor Roosevelt, used by idiots; CIT.


so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

not one of you duh-bunkers have an answer for this......

because there is only one possibility.

is it time to call Officer Roberts a "drunk" again? where's ron at he's great with the ad-homs.........

[applecorped]

so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

not one of you duh-bunkers have an answer for this......

because there is only one possibility.

is it time to call Officer Roberts a "drunk" again? where's ron at he's great with the ad-homs.........

Keep up the excellent work!!! Don't give up! Don't let these debunkers get you down! Keep on keeping on. One day at a time. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. :rolleyes:

[16.5]

so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

not one of you duh-bunkers have an answer for this......

because there is only one possibility.........

Hmmm, "great" question, Truther. Say, lets ask another truther, shall we?

Russell Pickering confirms that “I have witnesses with footage of the area behind the Pentagon at the moment of impact that I have talked to in great detail. They had three cameras running. They SWEAR that nothing flew over the building. So who is right? The video shows that if your imaginary flyover happened the plane would have had to go significantly south. There were multiple people there watching. NOTHING flew over according to them.”

Say, Dom, remind me who was with Lyte and Aldo when they were in DC and Virginia, will ya? I'm thinking it was Russell Pickering? Am I right? Am I right? Hmmm, TC, am I right??

[~enigma~]

is it time to call Officer Roberts a "drunk" again? where's ron at he's great with the ad-homs.........You still don't know what an ad hom is do you? Why don't you go back among your disgusting inhuman brethren and make another video about Cee Cee Lyles?

[T.A.M.]

I am guessing Officer Roberts/Rossevelt was/were mistaken.

Given it is several years later, given the suddeness and traumatic nature of the situation, and the duration of the encounter/event (a few seconds max), I find it not at all surprising that multiple "witnesses" would misremember things, or possibly have completely incorrect insertion of things into their memories and accounts.

Once again, see "Memory and Trauma".

TAM:)

[bje]

so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

You're funny.

After Ranke simply refused for two year to interview any of the 1,000+ witnesses who saw or recovered the wreckage because...

"But since the first responders are not relevant to the true flight path of the plane in any way whatsoever and can do nothing to help shed further light on the CLEAR and fatal anomalies in this regard it would be completely futile for us to seek out and interview the alleged "1,000's" of people..."...now says that they are "taught not to talk", but he's finally going to interview them because somehow they are now important?

:dl:

And after we showed for the last two years he had absolutely no witnesses anywhere beyond the Pentagon who would have seen AA77 fly over it and them if it did not hit the Pentagon and simply refusing to find any, he now comes up with a single, solidarity witness?

C'mom, TC, you're splitting my sides with laughter! What a hoot.

:dl:

Where do you come up with your silliness, TC329? CIT just augered in for good!

[Jonnyclueless]

so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

not one of you duh-bunkers have an answer for this......

because there is only one possibility.

is it time to call Officer Roberts a "drunk" again? where's ron at he's great with the ad-homs.........

Or better yet what silver plane did none of the 1000s of other people who were there including the ones who saw flight 77 hit the building somehow miss?

Time to call the 1000s of other people there drunk again?

[Jonnyclueless]

Why doesn't Craig do what all the other movie makes do when it comes time to promote a new DVD? Go on all the talk shows,etc. Why doesn't he get on good morning america or Larry King, etc?

[~enigma~]

When is Craig "idiot" Ranke gonna blame Matt and Trey since this was from the SOUTH PARKing lot?

[Bobert]

Aldo and Craigs Excellent Adventure!

[ihaunter]

Or better yet what silver plane did none of the 1000s of other people who were there including the ones who saw flight 77 hit the building somehow miss?

Time to call the 1000s of other people there drunk again?

Stalin, as a CTist:
To say one person is wrong is a tragedy, saying 1,000 people are wrong is a statistic.

[LashL]

Here's a link to the video that Ranke was pimping yesterday.


Link
(http://www.thepentacon.com/northsideflyover.htm)

[Mr.Herbert]

Here's a link to the video that Ranke was pimping yesterday.


Link
(http://www.thepentacon.com/northsideflyover.htm)




"Pentagon Attack Jet?"

You have got to be kidding me. I got 30 seconds into the credits and read that.

Flight 77 is now an attack jet???????


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Mr.Herbert]

I have to add.... Aldo looks like a young Paulie from the Rocky Series.

[dudalb]

I have to admire people like Lash L who monitor the Twoofers websites and broadcasts to see what they are up to. I just could not take reading and hearing the exact same old crap again and again and again and again........

[Drudgewire]

I have to admire people like Lash L who monitor the Twoofers websites and broadcasts to see what they are up to. I just could not take reading and hearing the exact same old crap again and again and again and again........


You do, of course, realize the irony of saying that in the 9/11 conspiracy section of JREF right? :)

[LashL]

I have to admire people like Lash L who monitor the Twoofers websites and broadcasts to see what they are up to.


Thanks, but I can't take credit for that - I rarely go to any of the twoofer sites these days, except when someone else points out something of interest. It just so happens that I am on vacation, so I went looking for this one today after Ranke was pimping it yesterday, that's all.

It is people like MikeW, the Screw Loose Change guys, ref, and several others here who deserve credit for monitoring the moonbats for the rest of us. :D

[Bobert]

Here's a link to the video that Ranke was pimping yesterday.


Link
(http://www.thepentacon.com/northsideflyover.htm)
I feel like I have been smacked in the face by 500 pounds of stupid.

[nicepants]

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- Ranke still can't pronounce "incredulity" correctly;

I must partially take credit for this....I used to always point out that his evidence was based on "personal incredulity" and "circular logic"....this happened so frequently that he began using those words himself to attack my arguments....the problem was he didn't (and still doesn't) correctly understand the meanings of either.

And regarding Rob...evidence of the biggest conspiracy in the history of ever is big...but that's nothing compared to going over your minutes!

[Mince]

CIT tried for fame and fortune...9/11 profiteering a la Avery and Jones...and failed miserably. I'm not sure if their futile persistence is admirable or irritating.

[Mince]

Just Ranke's own personal incredulity (which he still can't pronounce correctly).


Incr...

Incrajoo...

Incradoo...

Incradooly...

I can't believe it.

[beachnut]

so what silver commercial airliner did Officer Roosevelt see flying away from the scene over the Pentagon past the impact point after "Flight 77 impacted" ?

not one of you duh-bunkers have an answer for this......

because there is only one possibility.

is it time to call Officer Roberts a "drunk" again? where's ron at he's great with the ad-homs.........
No, Officer Roberts has good eyes, the C-130 is visible over the Pentagon after the impact. But CIT and you have problems with "over", "parallel", and "after". I used grade school level knowledge to debunk you! Sorry, but college and high school is not needed.

At 9:12 in the morning? What time did 77 hit? How long did it take to hang up the phone?

OOPS, the C-130 is visible after the impact, immediate, it is flying up in the SKY, you know, when he looks up he sees a plane, it is in the SKY, the C-130 is right there in front of him flying in the SKY. When I look up I can see planes, Roosevelt can too! Since the only aircraft over the Pentagon after the impact is the C-130, then Roosevelt saw a plane, it was the C-130. He never said in 2001 it was but a plane. Roosevelt has good eyes! He can see airplanes in the sky. But seem like time is a problem in his testimony, I would have you all shut down in a court, after his testimony is seeing the second plane at 9:11! LOL, you lost this case!

You lost this one based on the facts.

I cheated, I listened to his testimony in 2001, you are BUSTED. Sad to see all of 911 truth is made up of doltish ideas and lies.

This guy sees the lamppost hit by 77. Darn you are batting ZERO

Rodney Washington (400 feet from the lamppost, facing the Pentagon!)
Rodney Washington, a systems engineer for a Pentagon contractor, was stuck in stand-still traffic a few hundred yards from the Pentagon when the American Airlines jet roared overhead from the southwest. ''It was extremely loud, as you can imagine, a plane that size, it was deafening,'' Washington said. The plane was flying low and rapidly descended, Washington said, knocking over light poles before hitting the ground on a helicopter pad just in front of the Pentagon and essentially bouncing into it. It ''landed there and the momentum took it into the Pentagon,'' Washington said. ''There was a very, very brief delay and then it exploded.'' Washington speculated that it could have been worse: ''If it had kept altitude a little bit higher it probably would have landed in the middle of the Pentagon, in that court.'' (the delay, the time it takes sound to travel! Wow)


Here is the real killer!
The meaning of "watched it hit the building"

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "… I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."
You guys are so special. Nice post.

[johnny karate]

I feel like I have been smacked in the face by 500 pounds of stupid.

Now, that's not nice. Aldo can't weigh more than 230 pounds. 240 tops.

[SlightlyAbovePar]

Guys, guys, guys..........CIT has nothing to do with 9-11 or conspiracies. It's about them. This "new" information isn't (as we all know).

It's about getting attention and stroking their own egos. Period.

If they claim some ridiculous nonsense, let it go. There is no reason to refute/challenge them. The book is closed on this chapter of history, except to CIT and people who can't help but engage them. The whole purpose of the latest CIT propaganda isn't about winning over new 'converts'. It's about eliciting a reaction from us.

We are the fuel these clowns live on. Deprive them of fuel and the nonsense will stop. Well, in all honesty, they will never go away but, they will be contained within the box of woo, where they belong.

Again, nobody cares what CIT has to say. Not the authorities, not the press, not the general, all around public. Only we do. By continuously feeding them the attention they so (apparently) desperately desire, we ensure they will continue to seek our attention.

I can see boiling their assertions down to the Irreducible Delusion and pointing out the flaw(s) for those that might be new to the discussion, but other than that…..why bother?

It’s been (almost) seven years guys. The better half of a decade. There is nothing new to see here. By responding to these clowns we give those on the sideline the appearance there might be something to pay attention to.

Bottom line: point out the Irreducible Delusion and move on. Those that are smart enough to figure out what is woo and what isn’t will see them for what they are. Those that are too stupid (sorry, no nice way to say that) to recognize woo can’t and wont be saved.

[Bobert]

I have to add.... Aldo looks like a young Paulie from the Rocky Series.
Ok is it just me or is Craig going for the Porn Star look with the shirt half unbuttoned?

[Bobert]

Now, that's not nice. Aldo can't weigh more than 230 pounds. 240 tops.
:D
Anyone have a link to the archives section to listen to Craigs "performance"?
I clicked a link yesterday but dont remember where I found the link.
Found it
http://www.latalkradio.com/Johnny.php
Scroll down

[Jonnyclueless]

Number of successful directors and producers who got their start making conspiracy videos: 0

[technoextreme]

I continually come here to read threads concerning CIT for entertainment, and I come away more times than no, literally on the floor laughing.....In cognitive psychology, the limits of our memory is tested quite frequently, and in many different ways. Many significant events, including the one that CIT is "investigating," depend on reports from human observers. "A suprising finding is that there is no way to assess memory accuracy without objective evidence (hint, hint). The vividness or confidence of the person recalling the memory is not an accurate indication of the truth of the memory...memories cannot be trusted, no matter how adamant the recaller is about...the memory." At times, these "memories" are reported as very strong; however, inaccuracy is more probable than not. These "false memories" can be enacted by a number of variables, including less than professional interviewing tactics.
That's very sane logical and important to note. I've brought up that fact before. There are studies pointing out that as the stress levels increase a human's ability to work decreases. The CTs refuse to find that relevance.

[Bobert]

Excellent job Mr. Herbert!
Craig implicates civilian contractors planting explosives at the Pentagon and when asked pressed about the accusations then says that he is not accusing them but the evidence is!
WTF!?

[Mr.Herbert]

Thanks Bobert... I think the most ridiculous statement was when he accused the government of planting a cadaver still strapped in an airplane seat.

[LashL]

Thanks Bobert... I think the most ridiculous statement was when he accused the government of planting a cadaver still strapped in an airplane seat.

Just another glaring example of how utterly inept Ranke, Marquis (and their current water carriers/sockpuppets here) truly are. They aren't even aware of the numerous people (Mike Regan and his team, for instance, among several others) who saw and documented several airplane seats in the wreckage, some with bodies still strapped into them), and they simply ignore reality in order to promote their ridiculous, fanciful, ludicrous and, frankly, disgusting, conspiracy fantasies.

But SlightlyAboveApr has it right: the CIT lunatics are not worthy of our attention. They thrive on it because nobody else - not even their own fellow conspiracy fantasists - pays them any attention whatsoever.