Princess Di "predicted" her death -- yeah, right, sure, whatever!

[shemp]

Did Diana Predict Her Death? (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/20/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main578928.shtml)

Britain's Princess Diana is once again making headlines, six years after her death. According to a book by Princess Diana's former butler, Diana predicted her own death.

Butler Paul Burrell reportedly says he hopes a letter he's revealing will prompt a British inquest into her death.

In his upcoming book, "A Royal Duty," Burrell writes Diana sent him a letter in which she said she was afraid someone was going to harm her and make it look like a traffic accident - so that her ex-husband Prince Charles could remarry.

Right, this alleged letter shows up just in time for him to make a bundle writing a tell-all book. Bullsh*t!

Maybe he should apply for the Million!

:bs: :uk: :dl:

[JamesM]

You have to wonder why he didn't mention it during the French investigation, at least.

[Jon_in_london]

The sad thing is something like 80% of the country have actually swallowed all the conspiracy bollocks. Including my wife :nope:

[Mr Manifesto]

Patricia Cornwell weighs in (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/19/ndi19.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/10/19/ixportal.html).

Just look at this photo and try to tell me this isn't the face of a sane person:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2003/10/19/ndi19.jpeg

(one of the paparazzi photographers was called Romuald Rat (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9909/03/france.diana/index.html.bak), LOL!)

Anyway, what are you people trying to say here? That the only reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk, on anti-depressants, and was driving at more than twice the speed limit? Hah! Dupes.

[corplinx]

People in the US still think Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll. Don't be ashamed. Gullibility is a global phenomenon.

[Nikk]

There's no doubt that if you want to fake a traffic accident then an armour plated mercedes is the vehicle you would most want your victim to be ocupying. So very fragile.

It was also very cooperative of Diana to be so feeble minded as not to bother wearing a seatbelt. Compulsory in France at the time I believe. Note that the bodygaurd in the front seat wore a seat belt and survived.

[hgc]

Looks like a lot of people have gotten out their leap to conclusions mat.

Just because Di may have said that she would die in a staged car crash, how did she purportedly know that? How did they stage a wreck in front of lots of witnesses, and get her driver to get drunk and drive through a twisting tunnel at an insane speed?

Sounds to me that she made a lucky guess that she'd die in a car crash, but with no idea as to why.

Will they ever stop picking over this corpse?

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by hgc
Looks like a lot of people have gotten out their leap to conclusions mat.

Just because Di may have said that she would die in a staged car crash, how did she purportedly know that?

You seem to be leaping to the conclusion that the document is authentic. I would like to see that proved before I even think about anything further.

[NoZed Avenger]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Just look at this photo and try to tell me this isn't the face of a sane person:


Actually, I thought it was a photo of Stephen King.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
The sad thing is something like 80% of the country have actually swallowed all the conspiracy bollocks. Including my wife :nope:

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that people have a hard time believing someone so beloved and popular could die from something as mundane and pointless as a drunk driving accident.

People might want to believe that she died at the hands of some evil shadowy force. That would make her death more meaningful.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


You seem to be leaping to the conclusion that the document is authentic. I would like to see that proved before I even think about anything further. Yeah, I was granting that on assumption, so I could go ahead and disabuse further notions. But true, that could be an inauthentic document.

[sickstan]

Anyway, what are you people trying to say here? That the only reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk, on anti-depressants, and was driving at more than twice the speed limit? Hah! Dupes. [/B]


Correction: The reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk. Period. Antidepressants have never been shown to impair driving.

[Jessica Blue]

Diana's not dead! She was sucked up into a spaceship and is now living happily with Elvis, among a community of aliens in Vegas.

[reprise]

Anything which resulted in our no longer being subjected to the PoW's picture on the front page of magazines and newspapers on a weekly basis can't be all bad.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by sickstan



Correction: The reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk. Period. Antidepressants have never been shown to impair driving.

Yes, but a combination of alcohol and antidepressants...

[Hand Bent Spoon]

Princess Diana, arguably the single most overrated person of the 20th century.

Everyone goes on and on about how great she was. Bull! She was a deeply flawed individual who knew how to put on a good face for the media.

To literally live like a princess and then pull all that 'woe is me' crap? Give me a break.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by sickstan



Correction: The reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk. Period. Antidepressants have never been shown to impair driving.
They often don't mix well with booze....

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Hand Bent Spoon
Princess Diana, arguably the single most overrated person of the 20th century.

Everyone goes on and on about how great she was. Bull! She was a deeply flawed individual who knew how to put on a good face for the media.

To literally live like a princess and then pull all that 'woe is me' crap? Give me a break.


Hmm, tell my why 'living like a princess' is so Grand. Specially when you find out you're just around to make an heir while your husband has always been in love with someone else.

I much prefer my broke and stressed existence to being in the public eye and feeling cheated out of love. Then having the public call you fat...blah blah. Then having some schmuch make money off of your death by writing idiotic books 'about' you.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons



Hmm, tell my why 'living like a princess' is so Grand. Specially when you find out you're just around to make an heir while your husband has always been in love with someone else.

I much prefer my broke and stressed existence to being in the public eye and feeling cheated out of love. Then having the public call you fat...blah blah. Then having some schmuch make money off of your death by writing idiotic books 'about' you.

Why is it so grand? sheeesh!!! I dunno!

She courted and encouraged the press. She loved the attention and manipulated it for public sympathy for herself and the hatchet for her estranged hubby.

S'far as Im concerned its always sad when someone dies a violent death but she was just an attention-whore of regal proportions.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Why is it so grand? sheeesh!!! I dunno!

She courted and encouraged the press. She loved the attention and manipulated it for public sympathy for herself and the hatchet for her estranged hubby.

S'far as Im concerned its always sad when someone dies a violent death but she was just an attention-whore of regal proportions.


Wasn't that her job? Um, yes. And she didn't even want to do it at first.

So she found some things that were actually worthy of some attention. Better than hosting tea parties for art viewings.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons

So she found some things that were actually worthy of some attention.

Mainly herself.

[Eos of the Eons]

Hmm. I remember kids. lots of kids. Lots of kids who could actually use a little attention. What of Charles? I remember this other woman, and polo, and nothing of anything selfless.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
Hmm. I remember kids. lots of kids. Lots of kids who could actually use a little attention. What of Charles? I remember this other woman, and polo, and nothing of anything selfless.

Diana knew full well that by being seen as the 'champion of the poor/victimised etc...' she would earn public sympathy and affection. I never saw her giving up her lavish lifestyle to help those she pretended to care about. Perhaps she could have auctioned off all her jewlery and fine clothes etc... to pay for a company of engineers to dig up land mines in Cambodia. She pretended to be some Mother Teresa type but she was just a spoilt little rich-kid doing a bit of attention whoring.

[Eos of the Eons]

Actually, I do remember an auction. I also remember her giving up Charles too. Yeah, she really was sticking in there to be 'princess' and later 'queen'. Yeah, she was so shallow that she gave it all up.

[reprise]

Isn't it ironic that Charles, whose One True Love™ has been Camilla gets all the bad press and people forget about Diana's own fickleness when it came to relationships? Remember that surgeon with whom she was so much in love? She sure seemed to get over him pretty quickly.

Yes, she raised the profile of a lot of charities, but her ability to do so was a very direct consequence of her marriage to Charles. Lady Diana Spencer, tireless worker for charity, would never have achieved the same public profile which Diana, Princess of Wales managed to achieve. There were always - and remain - royals who spend more time on charity work than Diana ever managed to either as Charles' wife or after their divorce (when she sandwiched her charity work in between her many jaunts to exotic locations). The Princess Royal springs to mind (and was in Australia last week in her role as worker for good causes, but without any media splash).

Diana got good PR and she was cunning enough to manipulate the media to her advantage (something she would have been unable to do if Charles had ANY kind of positive image or showed any signs of having some idea of the world which exists beyond the gilded cage in which he has spent his whole life), but she achieved nothing which would justify "the cult of Diana" which seemed to emerge in the period immediately following her death.

[Eos of the Eons]

I don't think Diana would ever have wanted the limelight, and as whack as she was a lot of the time, I really don't feel she manipulated anyone. Sure, she doesn't deserve any cult status or whatever, but she was followed by the press more than ever seeking it out.

Lady spencer would have been quite happy to be her little ol school teacher self and not sought out the press if never married to Charles.

I just have to defend her that much, only because she was actually a half decent mother.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
I just have to defend her that much, only because she was actually a half decent mother.

Fortunately for harry and willy, they had a father who was entirely decent.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Fortunately for harry and willy, they had a father who was entirely decent.

So, Will will be a good King...

I don't think he'd like to hear his mom being called a whore of anything, any more than he likes to hear crap about dear ol dad.

[reprise]

So, Will will be a good King...

I often here this assumption expressed, but I think it's more "wishful thinking" than a conclusion based on any evidence.

Diana, post-divorce, was a very often ABSENT mother who spent extremely large amounts of her time playing with the idle rich.

[LW]

Originally posted by corplinx
People in the US still think Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll. Don't be ashamed. Gullibility is a global phenomenon.

Yup. There are also still people who believe that the KGB blew up Estonia.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by LW


Yup. There are also still people who believe that the KGB blew up Estonia.

Hi LW,
What do you mean "blew up Estonia?"

Thanks

[Giz]

Originally posted by LW


Yup. There are also still people who believe that the KGB blew up Estonia.

Communist misinformation. It was Lithuania that got blown up.

I still cant believe how big the Diana cult is.

I remember, shortly before she died, the N Korean Dictator Kim Il Sung died and there were pictures of hysterically weeping people lining the streets for miles along his funeral procession. In hysterics as if they had a personal connection to this rich, priviliged, remote figure.

I thought - goddam commie brain washing, at least that could never happen here!

Damn. I don't give my fellow citizens (oops subjects) that much credit usually but I did think they'd be slightly more mature than they were when Di died. :mad:

So how will Will be a good King? (My fav is Charles the first!)

[LW]

Originally posted by Mike B.

What do you mean "blew up Estonia?"


Estonia was a large ferry that sunk in a storm in Baltic in 1994, resulting in about 1000 deaths (being the largest martime disaster in that sea since WWII).

The results of the examination for the cause of the sinking show that its front gate was torn off and its car deck flooded.

Some people believe that the gate tore off because KGB (or more precisely, its successor) planted a bomb there because someone was smuggling weapons technology out off Russia onboard.

[Darat]

Originally posted by reprise
Isn't it ironic that Charles, whose One True Love™ has been Camilla gets all the bad press and people forget about Diana's own fickleness when it came to relationships? Remember that surgeon with whom she was so much in love? She sure seemed to get over him pretty quickly.

...snip....

Can't believe I'm posting a "defend Diana" reply…

Would just point out that Charles allegedly spent the night before his wedding with Camilla whilst Diana infidelities apparently only started after Charles had secured his heir....

I find it hard to criticise someone being unfaithful when they entered into a marriage because they thought the other person loved them. Diana found out that she had just been considered by him and his “advisors” to be good breeding stock and that he never intended to end his relationship with Camilla.

Have to admit I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for Diana – I think she caused immense damage to the monarchy – which I’m all for :)

[Crossbow]

Yeah I heard about this nonsense too and it sounds like just another example of the usual clap-trap.

The most accurate predictions always seem to become know after the event as opposed to before the event.

Ugh!

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Darat


Can't believe I'm posting a "defend Diana" reply…



Cant believe I defended Charles!! :eek:

I vote for Harry, perhaps he will invade france again and recover for us those lands the french unjustly hold to be the realm of france!!

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons


So, Will will be a good King...

I don't think he'd like to hear his mom being called a whore of anything, any more than he likes to hear crap about dear ol dad.

Well, actually, I've got Will right here (he's staying at my place while on sabbatical in Aus... Can you believe he's never had marijuana before? Should see the poor bugger cough...), and here's what he has to say about it:


No you're right E o t E, I don't like my mother being called an attention whore, but this is the 'net and people get called worse. You should hear what I was called when I posted as Jedi Knight.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Cant believe I defended Charles!! :eek:

I vote for Harry, perhaps he will invade france again and recover for us those lands the french unjustly hold to be the realm of france!!

Hah! Just you try it you reediculous Englishmen! You smell of elderberriez (etc, etc, etc...)

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by LW


Estonia was a large ferry that sunk in a storm in Baltic in 1994, resulting in about 1000 deaths (being the largest martime disaster in that sea since WWII).

The results of the examination for the cause of the sinking show that its front gate was torn off and its car deck flooded.

Some people believe that the gate tore off because KGB (or more precisely, its successor) planted a bomb there because someone was smuggling weapons technology out off Russia onboard.

WHEW!!!
I thought for a second a whole country had been blown up and it wasn't reported here...;)

[Tony]

What makes a "good King" in the modern Britian?

[meetoo]

Seems people do not predict there life the entertain it. Things are show to certain ones if they are permitted to see to be able to accept that part of life.
If one tries to change the ending they would only prolong 1 moment, still only to achieve seeking the knowledge that they needed to accept the truth of the ending toward something new.
So prepare if you have seen such a day.

Enjoy as though it would be your last just follow the rules.
email;wwright716@aol.com

[patnray]

I must be psychic! I predicted there would be conspiracy theories the night she died!

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Cant believe I defended Charles!! :eek:

I vote for Harry, perhaps he will invade france again and recover for us those lands the french unjustly hold to be the realm of france!!

The barons of Angouleme, Poitou, Aquitane, La Marche, Anjou, Touraine, Normandy and Brittany will rise for good King Wills!!

Elenor of Aquitaine said so just yesterday on JE's show. Oh, and she also said everyone is happy and loving ....now, go kill those Frenchies, and recapture the Angevin empire!!!

:)

-z

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


Well, actually, I've got Will right here (he's staying at my place while on sabbatical in Aus... Can you believe he's never had marijuana before? Should see the poor bugger cough...), and here's what he has to say about it:


No you're right E o t E, I don't like my mother being called an attention whore, but this is the 'net and people get called worse. You should hear what I was called when I posted as Jedi Knight.


Did anyone notice the play on words in my last post there...ha!

As far as Diana being 'gone' more after the Divorce...weren't the kids kinda bigger by then, and in boarding school? And she still spent a lot of time with them in the summers...blah blah. Whatever, like I really care.

Jedi Knight hey? How dare they! I love jedi knights! I was like 5 when I saw the first Star Wars...and Luke was soooo cute (not anymore, but back then) heh. Them were the days! Yes, I've also been laughed at for liking Bryan Adams in the eighties too :p


Diana predicting her death. Did the letter predict her age at death...or did she pick out one mode of death for each year of her life?

Ugh. Spiderman (the really old comic) is on TV. It's late here....must go to bed now!

[Drooper]

I think the REAL point everybody has missed so far is this.

The reason why Diana died in a car accident was because:

she wasn't wearing her seat belt.


Of the four occupants in the car, the only one that survived was the only one wearing a seatbelt.

It also tends to indicate that couldn't have been too paranoid about dying in a car "accident".

[Denise]

Originally posted by Drooper
I think the REAL point everybody has missed so far is this.

The reason why Diana died in a car accident was because:

she wasn't wearing her seat belt.


Of the four occupants in the car, the only one that survived was the only one wearing a seatbelt.

It also tends to indicate that couldn't have been too paranoid about dying in a car "accident".

Good point as usual!

[Eos of the Eons]

For sure.

[RonSceptic]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Patricia Cornwell weighs in (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/19/ndi19.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/10/19/ixportal.html).

Just look at this photo and try to tell me this isn't the face of a sane person:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2003/10/19/ndi19.jpeg

(one of the paparazzi photographers was called Romuald Rat (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9909/03/france.diana/index.html.bak), LOL!)

Anyway, what are you people trying to say here? That the only reason Diana died was because her driver was drunk, on anti-depressants, and was driving at more than twice the speed limit? Hah! Dupes.

Let me guess. Another best seller coming our way.

Cornwell last masterpiece was an attempt to to blame artist Wlter Sickert for the Ripper murders. After millions of dollars and several months of research Cornwell announced the Ripper 'case closed'. Yeah, right.

One tiny problem with this conclusion is that Sickert was actually in France at the time of the killings. There is no eveidnec at all that he was in London. Cornwell's response was to say that he 'could' have popped over to Lonon by boat to commit the crimes. Further more, there no evidnce that he didn't!

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. :rolleyes:

[RonSceptic]

Originally posted by Nikk
There's no doubt that if you want to fake a traffic accident then an armour plated mercedes is the vehicle you would most want your victim to be ocupying. So very fragile.

It was also very cooperative of Diana to be so feeble minded as not to bother wearing a seatbelt. Compulsory in France at the time I believe. Note that the bodygaurd in the front seat wore a seat belt and survived.

Also, of all the places to cover up a murder to protect the British establishment I would have though France would be pretty low on the list. How, exactly do you get the French Police and emergency services to hush things up?

And within France, Paris would be the last place you would chose. Let's face it, if the conspirators were so in control of events, the crash would have happened on a deserted road as far as possible away from police, emergency services, hospitals, journalists, onlookers etc, etc.

The only mystery here is that it has taken so long for a conspiracy theory to emerge. They will be sellng books for years to come on the back of this one. :(

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by RonSceptic


Also, of all the places to cover up a murder to protect the British establishment I would have though France would be pretty low on the list. How, exactly do you get the French Police and emergency services to hush things up?

And within France, Paris would be the last place you would chose. Let's face it, if the conspirators were so in control of events, the crash would have happened on a deserted road as far as possible away from police, emergency services, hospitals, journalists, onlookers etc, etc.

The only mystery here is that it has taken so long for a conspiracy theory to emerge. They will be sellng books for years to come on the back of this one. :(

And was it explained how Sickert, an artist, removed a kidney from a prostitute in darkness (not total darkness, but darkness nonetheless) without significantly mangling the body? Leading people to believe the perp might be... oh, I don't know... a surgeon?

Cornwell should stay out of history and stick to writing crap thrillers with titles like "Remains of the Day", or "Body Corporate".

[RonSceptic]

Cornwell also made a big deal of trying to get a DNA match between Sickert and the Ripper.

The problem is of course that you need a sample of the Ripper DNA to do so. How do you do that exacty, given that no knows the Rippers identity to start with?

Cornwell solution was to somehow assume that certain of the 400 or so 'ripper letters' were genuine and try and get DNA off the stamp! Even then the test failed to match!

It's laughable really.:roll: