The Amaz!ng Adventure 4: Chasing el Chupacabra

[Jeff Wagg]

March 8-15, 2009
Roundtrip from Los Angeles, CA

FULL details at http://www.amazingmeeting.com



http://www.randi.org/amazingmeeting/cruise4/la-mex.gif

Join us March 2009 for our fourth adventure on the deep blue seas, as James Randi and the JREF take you south to sunny Mexico in search of fellowship, fun and a bit of frivolity. With three ports and three days of lectures, you'll experience a one-of-a-kind environment where your intellect is fed as well as your body.


This journey's vessel, the Mariner of the Seas is an oceanic behemoth of 138,000 tons displacement... with the largest passenger-space ratio of any cruise liner afloat. This is double the size of the first ship we cruised on.

The ports include three of the most popular destinations in Western Mexico. Cabo San Lucas, on the southern tip of Baja California, boasts pristine beaches, golf, fishing, and an infamous bar scene. Puerto Vallarta, with it's 2500-year plus history, was frequently the destination of choice for the Love Boat of the 70's TV series. It's still popular with locals and foreigners alike. And finally, Mazatlan's brave young men will dive off of cliffs near its famous 150-year old lighthouse and crash into the sea hundreds of feet below.



For speakers, we have James Randi who will educate and entertain in his inimitable fashion. He'll be available for casual chats and ocean gazing throughout the cruise. JREF General Manager Jeff Wagg will present information about the Chupacabra Crisis with practical tips on how to defend yourselves against this phenomenon. And finally, an as yet unannounced guest of some reknown will join us to offer a unique perspective on things skeptical and not-so-skeptical.


Join us for a truly unique experience. Berths start at just $1099. FULL details at http://www.amazingmeeting.com (http://www.amazingmeeting.com/).

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Damn you for making me consider this! And TAA 5 "coming soon"? Damn you again! I'll be broke!

[DoubtingStephen]

Jeff, did you wish the title to be Amazing Cruise or Amazing Meeting?

[wahrheit]

The Amaz!ng Meeting 4? My time machine, it is kaput.

ETA: DS beat me to it.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Jeff, did you wish the title to be Amazing Cruise or Amazing Meeting?

Probably Amazing Adventure.

[Jeff Wagg]

Fixed! And Zygar beat both of you. :P

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Probably Amazing Adventure.

The Amaz!ng Adventure 4: Chasing el Chupacabra

I was right! What do I win?

So what is the "Chupacabra Crisis"?

[wahrheit]

I was right! What do I win?


A night with Jeff in the presidential suite.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

A night with Jeff in the presidential suite.

My prayers have been answered!

[Metullus]

My prayers have been answered!Live webcam? Pay per view, except for forum donors, maybe?

[Michelle Lyon]

Out of my budget, but sounds facinating!

[saganite]

Aaaargh. Just nearly affordable enough for me to justify, AND it leaves from Los Angeles? Dear FSM, please let me score a fantastic job tomorrow so I can come on this trip.

[ConspiRaider]

If I can sell one of my friggin' movie scriptolas I'd be a shoo-in for this krooz. Hollywood: Get OFF your asses and produce me! Skepticism as we know it hangs in the balance!

[saganite]

Oh, and by Hollywood, can I assume you are talking to me? Because I can assure you that if I had any moviemaking power at this point, I would be glorifying the skeptical agenda all over the freakin' place!

[UnrepentantSinner]

Anyone want to be my cabinmate?

[SezMe]

Damn you for making me consider this! And TAA 5 "coming soon"? Damn you again! I'll be broke!
Just keep track of your gas mileage and you can work it out. :)

[ConspiRaider]

Oh, and by Hollywood, can I assume you are talking to me? Because I can assure you that if I had any moviemaking power at this point, I would be glorifying the skeptical agenda all over the freakin' place!
YES!

Let's do a movie, a skeptical one! Like:

Garden of Eden: The Revenge

Get me a writer and producer and director and scare up maybe 70 mil from investors and this baby is greenlit, saganite!!! We'll get adjoining cabins and LetsHaveLunch on this kroozola and we'll hammer out the small details. (Like, where in the living hell do we begin?)

[DoubtingStephen]

YES!

Garden of Eden: The Revenge


We could have The Governator play Adam and Hillary Clinton play Eve. When mean old YahWeh kicks them out and calls them all sorts of dirty names for eating the food he intelligently designed, The Governator looks back at 3 in 1 guy and yells "Ah'll be Baaack!".

Once banned to the real world he runs in to the resurrected corpse of Charlton Heston, with his gun still firmly held in his cold, dead hand (partial resurrection, a budget issue) and together they lead an army of highly evolved simians who take back The Garden from Mr Genocide.

We're not derailing the thread, are we?

/derail

Wow, a cruise to Mexico, hmmm.

[Cleon]

Count me in. Regrettably, I'm not going to have the vacation time to throw at the transatlantic cruise.

[Miss_Kitt]

Aaargh! I'd love to do this -- and I'll be in school. Maybe in 2010??

Hugs to all, MK

PS I've wanted to write a horrible, truck-sized holes-in plot, Sci-fi Channel direct monster movie for a while. Wanna start a thread?? Possible title: Tusk of the Mammoth
You see, the Evil Oil Corporation is drilling in the Arctic, when....

[hcmom]

Anyone want to be my cabinmate?

Hmmmmmmmm.....

I'm almost for sure going, dunno about cabinmate status yet though.

[boloboffin]

I'm up for this. This I can do. And I'm up for cabinmates.

[Hutch]

Well, since I already have a roommate, guess you can count me in.

Now we'll see if those Delta Sky Miles count for anything....

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I will be interviewing for roommates.

Requirements:


Skepchick
Hot
Uninhibited
Likes to buy beer for her roommate

If the above requirements can't be met, I'll get a single. :)

[Wowbagger]

I am NOT going to attend this cruise*. But, for the record, I wish to file my objection to its name: "Chasing el Chupacabra".

I feel that not everyone will recognize this as sarcastic, and might assume that everyone on the cruise are a bunch of nutters with nothing better to do, than to hunt some mythical creature.

At least "Escape from the Bermuda Triangle" sounded like we didn't take the Triangle as any sort of threat!


Other than that, it sounds fun, so I hope everyone who is going on this thing will have a wonderful time!



(* primarily because I have been to many of those places, before, and also because it might conflict with some other things coming up.)

[hcmom]

I will be interviewing for roommates.

Requirements:


Skepchick
Hot
Uninhibited
Likes to buy beer for her roommate

If the above requirements can't be met, I'll get a single. :)

Three out of four be ok?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Three out of four be ok?

Which 3? :)

[Cleon]

I am NOT going to attend this cruise*. But, for the record, I wish to file my objection to its name: "Chasing el Chupacabra".

I feel that not everyone will recognize this as sarcastic, and might assume that everyone on the cruise are a bunch of nutters with nothing better to do, than to hunt some mythical creature.

Thank you for filing your objection. I'm sure while we're in Mexican waters, sipping various alcoholic beverages, hanging out and having a great time, we'll try as hard as we can not to let the completely inappropriate name distract us from the important issues at hand.

[hcmom]

Which 3? :)

If you're asking, I probably don't qualify...

Thank you for filing your objection. I'm sure while we're in Mexican waters, sipping various alcoholic beverages, hanging out and having a great time, we'll try as hard as we can not to let the completely inappropriate name distract us from the important issues at hand.

The only inappropriate thing I see about the name is that I thought Jeff was going to teach us how to avoid el Chupacabra.

[JoMadge]

Oooh, tempting!

~JoMadge

[Chupacabras]

... how to avoid el Chupacabra.

*giggles*

[Gilmar]

Yay!

[boloboffin]

There are a couple of drinks named for this mythical beast, involved a mixture of tequila and Jagermeister. Gah! There's got to be something more pleasant than that!

[Smiledriver]

I'm goin' I'm farkin' goin'. Ready the karoke sucka's. Matt's coming to wail.

[shemp]

There are a couple of drinks named for this mythical beast, involved a mixture of tequila and Jagermeister. Gah! There's got to be something more pleasant than that!

Two or three of those and the only thing you'll be chasing is the toilet.

Are goats allowed on this cruise?

[Cleon]

Two or three of those and the only thing you'll be chasing is the toilet.

Are goats allowed on this cruise?

Of course! How else would we bait the Chupacabra (literally, "goat-sucker")? :D

[shemp]

Of course! How else would we bait the Chupacabra (literally, "goat-sucker")? :D

You're not using any of MY goats to bait that thing! Looks like I won't be on this cruise.

[Fitter]

I'm goin' I'm farkin' goin'. Ready the karoke sucka's. Matt's coming to wail.
School's out?

[boloboffin]

Tequila is a must. Another Cupracabra recipe says to substitute a cola for the Jager, to still get that caramel taste. Funny, I never noticed a caramel taste to Jager. I never could get past the backs of my eye sockets.

I substitute grapefruit juice for sweet and sour in a Margarita and call it a Magdelena. A splash of something in this might make a more pleasant yet still formidable cocktail. Chambord? Pomegranate juice?

[Prometheus]

Fixed! And Zygar beat both of you. :P

Should the bottom of the info page (http://www.randi.org/amazingmeeting/cruise4/aa4.html) say that the price is guaranteed through Sept. 1, 2008, rather than 2009?

[Kil]

So is it possible to get some kind of restaurant meet up going for those of us who live in the Los Angeles area but are too poor to go on the cruise? A bon voyage party of sorts?

[JohnC]

Anyone else notice this:

"the largest passenger-space ratio of any cruise liner "

... so that means it's very crowded! Maybe it they should crow about the largest space-to-passenger ratio.

- Mr. Picky

[krelnik]

I think the restaurant meet-up prior to the cruise is a good idea. There are also many locations around Los Angeles that are of interest to skeptics, I think it would be fun to get a van and go visit a bunch of them one afternoon.


Among them are:

The very spot where Buzz Aldrin punched Bart Sibrel is on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. I'd love to re-enact it on the spot for photographic fun. (See the exact spot on this map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://whatstheharm.net/maps/moonlandingdenial.kml)).
Penn & Teller have a cenotaph in Forest Lawn cemetery that can be used as the punch line of a card trick, it was described on pages 3 through 10 of their book "How To Play In Traffic (http://books.google.com/books?ei=SvG_SJy6C4SgiwHxrO3tDQ&id=jM9xKWWXaV8C&dq=%22how+to+play+in+traffic%22&q=cenotaph&pgis=1)"
Scientology has a major presence in LA including their Celebrity Center and their anti-psychiatry museum Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry:_An_Industry_of_Death). We could play "count the logical fallacies".
One of the most famous UFO photographs was taken here during the Battle of Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_los_angeles) in 1942.
There are probably others that people could suggest, enough for a couple hours of skeptic fun.

[taypro]

Deciding on this one within the next few weeks. Mainly doing a lot of calculations as to its feasibility. But I would definitely like to go since it seems several of the other friendly Atlanta skeptics will be in attendance.

PS- Happy Bday Cleon!!! :D

[Phlebas]

But I would definitely like to go since it seems several of the other friendly Atlanta skeptics will be in attendance.

A couple of the right bastard ones too :)

Who from the ATL is in? I know of Cleon, krelnik, me, and ottle. And a Calculating Taypro.

[hcmom]

Deposit deposited. :D

[Geek Goddess]

When will there be more information about the transatlantic cruise? I can't do both, and would prefer to go the London-Boston route. However, if not enough people sign up to make it a go, or if you can't secure enough speakers to make a long trip interesting, I don't want to lose the opportunity to do this one.

[kittynh]

I agree with Geek.

It's one or the otherish time.

[Susan Gerbic]

There is another one? I want to go to the London/Boston one. Actually I would love to do both, but doubt I can afford it.

Susan

[AngelicAtheist333]

YES!

Let's do a movie, a skeptical one! Like:

Garden of Eden: The Revenge

Get me a writer and producer and director and scare up maybe 70 mil from investors and this baby is greenlit, saganite!!! We'll get adjoining cabins and LetsHaveLunch on this kroozola and we'll hammer out the small details. (Like, where in the living hell do we begin?)

It sounds like a mini porno.... bible style. n__________n

[AngelicAtheist333]

I'm SOOOOOOO dragging my boyfriend along to go on this thing!!! :D

It sounds like it will be very enlightening! n____n

I totally can't wait! It's like a vacation for your body and mind! Disney can't compare with that! >D

[hcmom]

*hcmom loves AnglelicAtheist333. Can everyone guess why?

[Prometheus]

*hcmom loves AnglelicAtheist333. Can everyone guess why?

She's a very colorful character.

[saganite]

*hcmom loves AnglelicAtheist333. Can everyone guess why?

I see the appeal, but I'm having a hard time deciphering this: n________n.

[Miss_Kitt]

Thank you for filing your objection. I'm sure while we're in Mexican waters, sipping various alcoholic beverages, hanging out and having a great time, we'll try as hard as we can not to let the completely inappropriate name distract us from the important issues at hand.

You should schedule a contest for those who have been "sipping various alcoholic beverages" to try and say "el chupacabra." If that's too easy, they need to say it 3 times fast. And if that's too easy, they need to extemporize a version of "El Cucaracha" about el chupacabra...

Desperately jealous now, Miss Kitt

[hcmom]

I see the appeal, but I'm having a hard time deciphering this: n________n.

Yeah, I don't get that part either, but since she does it in such a nice color, I don't care.

[Prometheus]

I see the appeal, but I'm having a hard time deciphering this: n________n.

n_n is the Asian version of the smiley emoticon : )

The more underscore characters placed between the two n's, the greater the level of happiness denoted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_emoticons

[El_Spectre]

Hey, I suppose I oughta mention that I'm going too. Looking forward to seeing you all there!

[Geek Goddess]

I rolled my deposit from the London cruise to this goat-sucking cruise. So, I guess I'm on!

[Susan Gerbic]

Where is the info on the London cruise, I can't find anything on it.

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

Where is the info on the London cruise, I can't find anything on it.

Susan

It was cancelled, as far as a JREF trip is concerned.

[Kevin 251]

I rolled my deposit from the London cruise to this goat-sucking cruise. So, I guess I'm on!

Cool -- we're signed up for this one too, and we look forward to seeing you again!

-- Kevin and Felicity (survivors of the Bermuda Triangle cruise)

[Susan Gerbic]

Okay, I give in. Just made my reservations this morning for Stirling and I. Guess I better pracatar mis Espanol para eso.

I must say that I love Joe Wagg, his accent is so cute and he is a joy to work with. What a lucky guy you are Jeff (and if you don't agree I don't want to hear about it).

Now I have to read up on all the stops, find out where I can go to get history infusions.

Susan

[hcmom]

Okay, I give in. Just made my reservations this morning for Stirling and I. Guess I better pracatar mis Espanol para eso.

I must say that I love Joe Wagg, his accent is so cute and he is a joy to work with. What a lucky guy you are Jeff (and if you don't agree I don't want to hear about it).

Now I have to read up on all the stops, find out where I can go to get history infusions.

Susan

Forget history, do you want to go ice skating on-board the ship with me?

[Susan Gerbic]

Forget history, do you want to go ice skating on-board the ship with me?

I'll be cutting classes to go, don't know what classes but I will taking two history master's classes. So I will be spending some of my time on board reading. I am sure of that. I know, I know, I am such a weeny!

I can't ice skate, but love to roller skate. Can we go roller skating?

Susan

[Susan Gerbic]

I know there was some discussion about doing something before the cruise leaves. Is it possible we could get a group together to see Lancaster? I'm sure he will be home by March, and depending on his progress at that time we could take them to dinner or visit or something?

Did you all see the shirts supporting him?

http://chillzero.blogspot.com/2008/10/additional-t-shirts-on-sale.html

http://chillzero.blogspot.com/2008/10/fundraising-for-robert-lancaster.html

I don't plan on keeping my shirt in good condition for TAM7, it will be well worn by then. From what I saw on the Alaskan cruise I think I will ruffle some feathers from other cruisers by wearing it.

Susan

[hcmom]

I'd been thinking of having some sort of get-together here before the cruise, but then I wasn't going to be at this specific here, so it wasn't such a good idea, but now that the here I'm going to be is large and has a yard, I'll probably do something. And the Lancasters are fairly close to where I'm going to be still.

(And if you're confused, don't worry, I often am myself)

[Susan Gerbic]

I'd been thinking of having some sort of get-together here before the cruise, but then I wasn't going to be at this specific here, so it wasn't such a good idea, but now that the here I'm going to be is large and has a yard, I'll probably do something. And the Lancasters are fairly close to where I'm going to be still.

(And if you're confused, don't worry, I often am myself)

Okay?

[kittynh]

There will be 2 mandatory talks everyone on the cruise MUST ATTEND.

(don't worry there will be lots of photographs and PRIZES!)

It's one of those safety issue things.

[Susan Gerbic]

There will be 2 mandatory talks everyone on the cruise MUST ATTEND.

(don't worry there will be lots of photographs and PRIZES!)

It's one of those safety issue things.

?

I remember the first one where we had to put on our lifevests and report to the casino. I wish I had remembered to bring a camera, this time I will. What would be the other safety lecture?

And why would their be prizes?

Anyone start investigating the places yet?

Susan

[kittynh]

This is Mexico. Safety first.

There are 2 needed safety lectures or else....we may not all come back.

No one allowed off the boat unless they attend BOTH lectures.

I'm NOT KIDDING

[hcmom]

?

I remember the first one where we had to put on our lifevests and report to the casino. I wish I had remembered to bring a camera, this time I will. What would be the other safety lecture?

And why would their be prizes?

Anyone start investigating the places yet?

Susan

These lectures will be to protect us from the wildlife in Mexico, so you'll for sure want to bring a camera.

And since it's on a cruise, we'll also get to drink during these lectures... :halo:

[Susan Gerbic]

This is Mexico. Safety first.

There are 2 needed safety lectures or else....we may not all come back.

No one allowed off the boat unless they attend BOTH lectures.

I'm NOT KIDDING

No Way! I am so gullible you can get lots of stuff past me. Are we talking about kidnapping or drinking water problems or what? Do we have to have some kind of special shots to get in?

I tend to be very friendly and easily distracted (magicians love me) and when I am trying to get that certain shot I might just wander off. So maybe I will need a personal bodyguard to keep my family from getting a ransom note. Any volunteers? Stirling will be off on his own and only embarrassed by his mother.

Susan

[kittynh]

Susan, bodyguards can NOT protect you. Only superior knowledge CAN.

You have to OUTTHINK them!

Sadly, the slow will die, but then we will all get a good example of evolution in action.

If the Waggmaster would post the topic of my talk it would help. Jeff's talk is ofcourse mandatory... because chupacabras are problematic. But at least they stay on the GROUND.

[kittynh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS9vFXQo50E

keep an eye on the light pole. Oh yeah, attend my talk or else.

[Susan Gerbic]

keep an eye on the light pole

NOW I believe!

[Susan Gerbic]

I will then be the first to go. I get so easily distracted that my knowledge (in no way superior) is no help to me. Please keep all cameras on me at all time in order to get a great YouTube Video of my abduction. Stirling will have all the passcodes to get into my account, as I want it on my YouTube Account.

Sigh!
Susan

[kittynh]

yeah, I plan to spend the entire cruise (except for my talk) hiding under the bed in the cabin.


Mexico is very dangerous. How can we avoid walking past light poles?

[Susan Gerbic]

Mexico is very dangerous. How can we avoid walking past light poles?

Walk along the beach only?

I've been looking into some of these ports. It seems that parts of the cities are so poor they don't have sewage and paved streets, or electricity. Amazing!

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

yeah, I plan to spend the entire cruise (except for my talk) hiding under the bed in the cabin.


Mexico is very dangerous. How can we avoid walking past light poles?

excuse me? I'm locking you out on the balconey

[kittynh]

oh boy... better bring my alien protection hat.

I'm giving one out during my tallk.

[Susan Gerbic]

Do I need to remember to bring my tin foil?

Does anyone know about shots?

Susan

[El_Spectre]

Do I need to remember to bring my tin foil?

Does anyone know about shots?

Susan

Yes, this is important. This is Mexico, so tequila is probably required.

[hcmom]

Do I need to remember to bring my tin foil?

Does anyone know about shots?

Susan

Oh, that's an idea, we could have foil-hat making classes!!

I'll have a shot of about anything with you, Susan.

[Susan Gerbic]

Oh, that's an idea, we could have foil-hat making classes!!

I'll have a shot of about anything with you, Susan.

About time some of you are starting to get in the mood!

I have an employee who has been planning a trip to Mexico for 6 or more months, today she just realized that she leaves in about a week, finally she is getting excited! That's the worst about these trips you have so long to wait. TAM7 is going to take forever to get here! And this cruise is still 5 months away! I think we need more meetups!

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

About time some of you are starting to get in the mood!

I have an employee who has been planning a trip to Mexico for 6 or more months, today she just realized that she leaves in about a week, finally she is getting excited! That's the worst about these trips you have so long to wait. TAM7 is going to take forever to get here! And this cruise is still 5 months away! I think we need more meetups!

Susan

So start a local skeptics group!

[Susan Gerbic]

I've tried

[Phlebas]

Do we need to bring our own Pirate Repellant, or does the cruise line handle that?

[Cleon]

Do we need to bring our own Pirate Repellant, or does the cruise line handle that?

Well, assuming Hal is coming, he can just tell jokes through a loudspeaker. After a couple minutes of that, the pirates would be begging the Coast Guard to sink their ship.

[Geek Goddess]

I can tell them my story about Puerto Vallarta....

[Susan Gerbic]

Getting excited. Here is a bit about our ship (http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ships/class/ship/home.do;jsessionid=00000W3CBMP2_CWnYtXZ6Hjkj9F:13h ldcgo7?br=R&shipClassCode=VY&shipCode=MA)

Susan

[hcmom]

Getting excited. Here is a bit about our ship (http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ships/class/ship/home.do;jsessionid=00000W3CBMP2_CWnYtXZ6Hjkj9F:13h ldcgo7?br=R&shipClassCode=VY&shipCode=MA)

Susan

As far as I'm concerned, the ship doesn't even have to stop at any ports. I'll be happy ice skating, rock-wall climbing and miniature golfing all week!!

[Susan Gerbic]

As far as I'm concerned, the ship doesn't even have to stop at any ports. I'll be happy ice skating, rock-wall climbing and miniature golfing all week!!

What's keeping you from doing this right now in L.A.? You probably live within a couple blocks of all these things.

Susan

[Phlebas]

What's keeping you from doing this right now in L.A.? You probably live within a couple blocks of all these things.

Susan

Having the right cast around her?

[hcmom]

What's keeping you from doing this right now in L.A.? You probably live within a couple blocks of all these things.

Susan

Because I want to do it on a SHIP!

ETA: uhh... by "it" I mean rock-wall climbing, ice skating and mini golf...

[Geek Goddess]

Because I want to do it on a SHIP!

ETA: uhh... by "it" I mean rock-wall climbing, ice skating and mini golf...

sure you do.

[Hutch]

As far as I'm concerned, the ship doesn't even have to stop at any ports. I'll be happy ice skating, rock-wall climbing and miniature golfing all week!!

We definitely need to organize an on=board Miniature Golf Tournament!

[Susan Gerbic]

How is it possible to play golf on a ship. Next thing your going to tell me is they have pool tables!

Susan

[kittynh]

All I want is warmth

Just give me a deck chair by the pool

[Susan Gerbic]

Tomorrow is the last day to register. Do we have any kind of list of whose going. Maybe we need to wait until the last payment is made.

I have a friend, Jesus who is almost decided to go. He needs to decide by tomorrow. I think we need Jesus on our trip, don´t you think

Is there another male out there who is looking for a roommate.

Susan

[RSL's better half]

Does Jesus sleep? Oh! You don't mean THE Jesus. Sorry.

[Susan Gerbic]

Okay, Is there anyone else that wants to go. I need a room mate for Jesus, the price will be only a bit over $1000 if they want to go. I need to know very soon. If a woman wants to go then I can share with her and Jesus will share with Stirling.

Susan

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Okay, Is there anyone else that wants to go. I need a room mate for Jesus, the price will be only a bit over $1000 if they want to go. I need to know very soon. If a woman wants to go then I can share with her and Jesus will share with Stirling.

Susan

Have you asked Mary? They've roomed together before. Even shared the same bed.

[Susan Gerbic]

Have you asked Mary? They've roomed together before. Even shared the same bed.

But can she come up with the cash?

[Susan Gerbic]

Okay Gang! Its January 1st the day is getting close....

Jesus has a roommate, someone from Atlanta. Apparently there is still room for others if they would like to go on the cruise. Jesus is a long time friend of mine who teaches ESL (that is until he got laid off this semester from our community college) he is really looking forward to this cruise as he has never done anything like this before. He is a little worried about what to expect of you all, doesn't know much about the skeptical community and computer forums. He is mostly non-religious and skeptical about most paranormal, he is still a bit wonky about some of the health woo, as that is far from his field of experience. He is hoping to learn lots from you all, he does not want to speak Spanish because his goal is improve his English vocabulary. So PLEASE be friendly to him.

Don't expect the same level of skeptical/science knowledge you would from myself or Stirling. If you catch Stirling or myself messing up with lousy logic, please call us on it, that is one of my reasons for wanting to hang out with you all, I need the intellectual stimulation. I get all the other kind of stimulation here at home.

Now its about time for me to make my flight plans. Has anyone decided what we should do before hand? Or should we just fly down on the day and transfer to the ship? Stirling suggested we go to Medieval Times to kinda get our vibes going. I remember not being about to speak for days afterward when I went years ago so not sure it that is a plus or minus.

Anything interesting to see or do in the area? Yes, I know it is LA but still it is so spread out.

Ideas?

Susan

[AZAtheist]

We'll be driving in for the cruise perhaps we can get together with you before boarding.

[RSL's better half]

Everybody who's going on the cruise: If you could see your way clear for one more expenditure, I would sure be grateful. I'd love for Robert to see StopSylvia shirts everywhere he looks on the cruise. Whether it be a bunch of "Dark Entities," or WWRD "What Would Robert Do?" or maybe some "RSL Groupies!"

If you're not going on the cruise, but are going to TAM 7, don't forget to get a t-shirt.

[ottle]

Everybody who's going on the cruise: If you could see your way clear for one more expenditure, I would sure be grateful. I'd love for Robert to see StopSylvia shirts everywhere he looks on the cruise. Whether it be a bunch of "Dark Entities," or WWRD "What Would Robert Do?" or maybe some "RSL Groupies!"

If you're not going on the cruise, but are going to TAM 7, don't forget to get a t-shirt.

Does that mean you and Robert are going??

[El_Spectre]

We'll be driving in for the cruise perhaps we can get together with you before boarding.


I believe that there is a party in the planning, however I shall let the planner announce that :)

[James45]

Hey Guys,

I'm new to the Jref and recently decided on a bit of an impulse to join you guys on this cruise to Mexico.

I've talked briefly with Joe Wagg on the phone and he seemed really nice and suggested I make contact with you guys before the trip.

So here I am.

I'm relatively new to the skeptical movement. I've been into philosophy for quite some time and arrived at atheism from there. I had always thought of skepticism as something quirky, involving people debunking ideas that I thought of as fairly benign when compared with religion.

Recently though a friend at work put me on to the SGU and it's really opened my eyes a bit. I think it has helped me to get a clearer understanding of my own position. I’d now say I’m a skeptic first and an atheist second.

I’m still trying to work out where to invest my efforts though and perhaps chatting with you guys here and in person in march will be useful in that regard.

From reading earlier posts here there seems to be some murmurs about meeting up before the cruise. I’m planning on staying near LAX the night before the cruise so I might be able to come along to something the night before depending on how easy I find transport.

Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you all.

-James

[Geek Goddess]

Welcome, James.

I went on the first cruise, to the Bermuda Triangle, and didn't know a soul. I now consider some of the people that I met there, and on this forum, among my best friends*. It will help you to know people beforehand if you post here, and go over to the Forum Community (http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=26) thread and just jump in. There's a minimum of posts before you get an avatar.

Of course, after seeing some of those people, you might be asking for a refund. :D



*And no, it's not because normal people won't play with me and I spend all my time on the computer.

[kittynh]

Cool James welcome! Just let us know where you are staying. I'm going to be out by Long Beach. Depending on when you come in, a lot of others will also be coming in. I'm sure we can all carpool to the party. Also, be sure to let people know you are new and such. We're not too scarey... well yes we are, but we rarely bite newcomers (anymore).

Where are you coming in from? Pretty rocking and if you are nice to me I"ll tell you the real truth about Rebecca Watson (ok ok, I'll tell you anyway, she's a nun with a drinking problem. It's sad. Breaks into the communion wine and does that podcast. Wakes up the next day and is off to vespers.)

[RSL's better half]

Does that mean you and Robert are going??

Yes, Ma'am! We're going on the cruise to chase ol' El Chupacabra! Get your t-shirt, girlfriend!

And, James, it's Jeff not Joe. Once you meet him, you'll remember his name . . . and him. He's a pretty cool dude.

Actually, we're mostly all pretty cool - in a nerdy sort of way. I have yet to meet anybody here - online or in person - who I don't like.

[James45]

Thanks for the welcome guys,

I'm actually coming from Australia of all places so i'll be a long way from home.

My flight into LAX gets in at 2:30pm on the 7th of march. It will be a domestic flight so hopefully it will mean i can get out of the airport relatively quickly.

I'm not sure where I'm staying yet, I'm hoping to find a place within walking distance of the airport so I can grab the Royal Caribbean transfer in the morning.

Anyway, if someone would be able to give me a lift to whatever functions on that would be awesome.

Hehe, I always suspected there was something more to Rebecca. You know I would have thought drinking large amounts of alcohol would have a negative effect on critical thinking but there you go.

"And, James, it's Jeff not Joe."

Hmm, perhaps there a two people with the surname Wagg? The guy I'm talking to signs all his emails Joe. Are you guys getting the same emails i'm getting regarding cruise updates?

The non-abbreviated name of the guy I'm talking to is Joseph. Could that be Jeff's brother?

Yeah, generally I find critical thinkers to be the most pleasant and open minded people around. Nothing wrong with being a bit nerdy ;)

I find it a great irony that the most closed minded people out there tend to be the ones complaining the loudest about closed mindedness.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

And, James, it's Jeff not Joe.

No, it's Joe. Jeff's dad. He's the cruise guy. :)

Once you meet him, you'll remember his name . . . and him. He's a pretty cool dude.

Jeff? Or Joe?

[hcmom]

Okay Gang! Its January 1st the day is getting close....

Now its about time for me to make my flight plans. Has anyone decided what we should do before hand?

Anything interesting to see or do in the area? Yes, I know it is LA but still it is so spread out.

Ideas?

Susan

We'll be driving in for the cruise perhaps we can get together with you before boarding.

I believe that there is a party in the planning, however I shall let the planner announce that :)

I'm planning a party. Really, I'm not doing much planning at all, I'm just going to provide a location for a party. I have a big enough house that if people want to crash here after the party, it can be one big slumber party too.

[RSL's better half]

Ooops! I met Jeff's folks once, but it didn't even occur to me that people would be going directly through Dad. I do beg your pardon, James (and Central Scrutinizer). I don't get any email updates, btw.

[Susan Gerbic]

Welcome James, I look forward to hanging on to every sexy accent word you utter! Now if there is a British man on the cruise then you will be superseded, sorry.

Joe Wagg is the man you talked to, he has a New York accent. He is also the sweetest man and the father of Jeff Wagg who will also be on the cruise.

Your a brave man jumping right into this. Don't worry we are a very friendly bunch, many of us were on the Alaskan cruise in 2007 together and seen each other at the TAM's, so we tend to already know each other. But trust me, we are excited to have you with us, and all the others that are attending that haven't chimed in yet. Any Brits? Or Scots BTW?

I'm Susan, and I will have my 18 year old son, Stirling with me. Also taking a friend, Jesus who will be even more lost than you are hanging out with us skeptics. Poor man.

Do you have a specific area of pseudoscience that really pisses you off. You know the one that makes your blood pressure rise. Mine is psychics and prayer/healing, I just turn red faced when I hear someone going on about how they prayed over some illness and God made them better. Anyway, if you can figure out what is the area that gets your juices going then there is probably a area here on the forum that you should wander over to and jump in. Ignore the fact that people seem to know each other, realize that they are probably tired of talking to each other already and would love some new blood.

And/Or you can just keep talking here on this thread. I get all excited when I see a new post here.

Noel, Stirling and I might just take you up on the couch idea. We are waiting for you all to decide if we are getting together and doing anything or not, besides your house. How close are you to the airport and cruise line? Everything down there is so far apart from each other.

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

Is Richard Saunders going, by any chance?

Oh, and James, if you want to get in really tight with the new Prez of the JREF, you should pack every available cubic inch of your luggage with bags of Minties. Trust me on this.

As payment for letting you know about this little secret, I'll accept one bag myself.


*Geek Goddess runs off to have her dental fillings checked...

[Susan Gerbic]

Is Phil Plait going? How about Rebecca?

Susan

[James45]

Do you have a specific area of pseudoscience that really pisses you off. You know the one that makes your blood pressure rise.



Hey Susan,

Thanks for the welcome

Out of the pseudoscience stuff I think I'm with you about psychics. I think psychics have always come across to me as legalised con artists. I find TV psychics the most irritating. I think in general it just annoys me when people exploit our default position of trust as it moves us as a society towards a default position of distrust which isn't healthy.

My major concern at the moment though is understanding the human need for community and how religions and pseudo scientific organisations prey on that.

Anyway, I might start up a post in the philosophy forum and discuss some of my ideas there.

Also, thanks Geek Godess for the minties tip, i'll keep that in mind ;)

[Phlebas]

I don't think you guys are fooling anyone with the "Welcome, newbies!" stuff. Yeah, we're all smiles, but the Newbie Hazing Karaoke and Shark Diving is already on the agenda. Remember "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" on the Alaska cruise?

Of course you don't. Anyone who does wasn't there.

I'm kidding! Glad to see a bunch of new faces. We're bringing a couple of JREF virgins ourselves, since I hear the Aztec gods will be appeased by that. Krelnik is coming too, so it'll be the first Skeptics of Unusual Size meeting since TAM 5.5.

Anyone picked any shore excursions yet? We've signed up for swimming with dolphins in Puerto Vallarta, but that's it so far.

[Susan Gerbic]

Out of the pseudoscience stuff I think I'm with you about psychics. I think psychics have always come across to me as legalised con artists. I find TV psychics the most irritating. I think in general it just annoys me when people exploit our default position of trust as it moves us as a society towards a default position of distrust which isn't healthy.

I would STRONGLY suggest that you start at the bottom of the articles of this page (http://www.stopsylvia.com) and work your way up to the most recent articles. The owner of this site will be on the cruise and yes there will be a test.

I think Krelnik owns "What's the Harm" page? If so I better get to reading!

Anyone picked any shore excursions yet? We've signed up for swimming with dolphins in Puerto Vallarta, but that's it so far.

My friend went to do this in Cancun this year and said it was the best part of the visit. But they try to sell you a very expensive video of you with the dolphins. I guess we are going to encounter that everywhere.

I didn't really think about doing anything, but hanging around. I like taking the tour cars that take you around the city, all the tourist attractions and some neat places to take pictures. I'm really not a water person (we only live minutes from the ocean and never go).

I thought the newbie stuff was still on, I've been sharpening my spear for weeks, and the frogs are almost big enough now.

Susan

[Phlebas]

I think Krelnik owns "What's the Harm" page? If so I better get to reading!


Yes. There will be a quiz, and krelnik is a harsh grader. Plus, El Spectre and I are bouncers for him.

[kittynh]

ohhh swimming with dolphins.

I'm going cut rate and just hanging and I hope to find some good old skeleton art. The weirder the better.

Other than that, it's going to be just going "warm warm".

[ottle]

Yes, Ma'am! We're going on the cruise to chase ol' El Chupacabra! Get your t-shirt, girlfriend!


YAAAAYYYY!!!!! That's the best news I've heard in weeks :) Can't wait to see you guys.

I'm planning a party. Really, I'm not doing much planning at all, I'm just going to provide a location for a party. I have a big enough house that if people want to crash here after the party, it can be one big slumber party too.

Cool hcmom - let me know if you need any help!

[Susan Gerbic]

Yes. There will be a quiz, and krelnik is a harsh grader. Plus, El Spectre and I are bouncers for him.

Now I'm scared!

Does he grade on a curve?

Susan

[Susan Gerbic]

Is this Krenlik (http://picasaweb.google.com/sgerbic/06TAM6#5215290112551444338)? (on the right - King Merv00 on the left) So confusing that most have advitar here and a real name when you meet them in person.

BTW I could use some help with who is who on my site (http://picasaweb.google.com/sgerbic/06TAM6#).

Susan

[Susan Gerbic]

Okay Krenlik is not Michael.

Krenlik is Tim Farley and also my friend Jesus's roommate.

I know I have met Krenlik can someone point him out in my pictures?

Susan

[krelnik]

Here are several pictures of me (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/view?uname=timfarley&subjectids=rfy3C-nX5jDKWR1jF8q5J2TMIjQ9kIU6ghe2inHkJ-c#).

[Susan Gerbic]

Here are several pictures of me (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/view?uname=timfarley&subjectids=rfy3C-nX5jDKWR1jF8q5J2TMIjQ9kIU6ghe2inHkJ-c#).

Excellent! I knew I had met you before. I met you on the very first day I arrived at TAM, I asked the group that was gathering who wanted to get dinner at the buffet. But you didn't end up going with us. I don't think I have any pictures of you in my Picasa.

Get ready to eat on this voyage. The food buffet is always open!

It is sooooo cold here in my house, I am so looking forward to getting someplace warm. Next week I am visiting Denver (I'm going to think I'm warm now). I'm with Kitty, I want to just hang out and not spend tons of money at the tourist areas.

I spend all my money on sending postcards.

Susan

[Susan Gerbic]

Are there going to be formal nights? Cause I have to go shopping! There was one woman on the cruise (can't remember her name) but she was the one with the guy who wore a cowboy hat. Anyway, she showed up in a silver gown and she looked amazing! I have a picture on my Alaskan pictures of her. I looked like I packed the night before (okay it was almost just that much time).

In fact I am leaving to Denver for a small vacation tomorrow and I have barely put any thought into packing...hum...

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

Are there going to be formal nights? Cause I have to go shopping! There was one woman on the cruise (can't remember her name) but she was the one with the guy who wore a cowboy hat. Anyway, she showed up in a silver gown and she looked amazing! I have a picture on my Alaskan pictures of her. I looked like I packed the night before (okay it was almost just that much time).

In fact I am leaving to Denver for a small vacation tomorrow and I have barely put any thought into packing...hum...

Susan

On a seven day cruise, there are typically two formal nights. The cruise line web site describes these (or it did, for the Alaska cruise). You can check out there when you register.

[Susan Gerbic]

You can check out there when you register.

WHAT! I'm on vacation, I'm supposed to register now!

Can't they just access my brain waves or something

Susan

[hcmom]

Gah... I don't WANT formal nights!

[El_Spectre]

Gah... I don't WANT formal nights!

Me neither. The question is, is the formal area just the main dining hall, or is it extended to the whole ship? As I recall, on the Caribbean cruise, it was pretty limited, whereas in Alaska, you had little choice.

[Cleon]

Me neither. The question is, is the formal area just the main dining hall, or is it extended to the whole ship? As I recall, on the Caribbean cruise, it was pretty limited, whereas in Alaska, you had little choice.

My understanding is that it's just supposed to be the main dining hall, so if a bunch of us want to go and just hit the buffet in a t-shirt and jeans, that's not a problem.

Alaska was with Celebrity, and like the first cruise, this one is going to be Royal Caribbean. If I had to bet, I'd say it's probably going to be more like TAA1 than TAA2 in the formality department. Which suits me just fine.

[Susan Gerbic]

Alaska was with Celebrity, and like the first cruise, this one is going to be Royal Caribbean. If I had to bet, I'd say it's probably going to be more like TAA1 than TAA2 in the formality department. Which suits me just fine.

For those of us not on the TAA1, this means what?

But Cleon you looked wonderful on TAA2! And I have pictures

Susan

[YoPopa]

I have seen this fabled land of the chupacaras and it is beautiful. The land that is, not the chupacaras.

I didn't really want to be an advance scout but mother in-law thought we should take a family cruise to Mexico in January. :) & :(

We were on a different ship than the one you will be sailing on so I won't show you any photos of that. What I do have is some photos from two of the excursions which might help you decide what you will do in port. I've put the photos on two separate Wiki pages.

Here are the two excursions we went on.

#1. Puerto Vallarta excursion, Hideaway at Las Caletas (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Hideaway_at_Las_Caletas), included snorkeling, kayaking, a good lunch with an awesome view, some whale watching, sea lion "encountering", a nature trail with orchids (in season), photo ops with a monkey & Macaw,

2. Cabo San Lucas, Premier Cabo Yacht experience (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Cabo_San_Lucas_sail), a real yacht, whale watching, snorkeling, very good food & open bar, kayaks available, sport fishing light on the return trip. This yacht takes a very small number of passengers and is pricey but I would do it again, sign up early to be sure of a seat.

We took the day off from touring in Mazatlan. Just hung out near the ship, bought a Tee shirt & some Cohibas, mmmm.


Disclaimer: The Wiki site is my son's newest website, it is in Beta right now and he is seeking feedback. Hope you don't mind. If this seems inappropriate for this forum please ignore or delete. I think the Wiki site might be a good way to share photos & experiences such as meetings & get-togethers. Anyone can be given permission to add photos, add names to a list, add comments, and even delete photos if they feel their privacy is violated. Feel free to register as a trustee for the pages I created and play with them or create your own.

[Susan Gerbic]

Awesome, Thanks YoPapa. The pictures are excellent. Looks like the weather was great for you so it should be great for us in March.

You give great feedback, very detailed like the "no back rest" kind of thing. Can you scout out a few more places for me?

I'm still thinking that I will just go mess around the villages, take pictures but probably no excursions.

Susan

[chillzero]

Please allow me a momentary drift from topic.

Those of you wishing to get RSL t-shirts or caps (see my sig) before embarking on the cruise, please order before 14th February. That will allow until 21st Feb for them to be delivered to me, leaving two weeks for me to get them out to you (bearing in mind most of you are not ordering from the UK and postage can take 7 - 10 days).

Please note on your order form that you need your items for the cruise.

[Kil]

Okay, it's getting close now. (Perhaps I should have looked at the whole thread.) Is there any kind of meet up planned for those of us who can only wave bon voyage and for those of you going on the cruise?

[krelnik]

My understanding is that it's just supposed to be the main dining hall, so if a bunch of us want to go and just hit the buffet in a t-shirt and jeans, that's not a problem.

Yes. I've cruised with Royal Caribbean before, and the formal thing did not extend to the entire ship. You could easily skip the main dining room and choose instead to eat at one of the several other restaurants.

This is a BIG ship, so its quite easy to avoid something if needed. I was on Jewel of the Seas on my last cruise in 2005, and it was 13 stories high and that's just the public areas of the ship. It had a passenger capacity of 2,500. This ship is even larger, it holds 3,100 passengers.

[krelnik]

Okay, it's getting close now. (Perhaps I should have looked at the whole thread.) Is there any kind of meet up planned for those of us who can only wave bon voyage and for those of you going on the cruise?

I'm not sure anything is planned yet, but a bunch of us from Atlanta are flying into LA around midday on Friday, March 6th and we will be in town all day Saturday presumably doing touristy/skeptic things like having our picture taken in front of the Scientology sign on Sunset.

Do you have a suggestion for a venue or time? Also, we're also looking for interesting tourist things to do particularly if they relate to science or skepticism.

[Kil]

I'm not sure anything is planned yet, but a bunch of us from Atlanta are flying into LA around midday on Friday, March 6th and we will be in town all day Saturday presumably doing touristy/skeptic things like having our picture taken in front of the Scientology sign on Sunset.

Do you have a suggestion for a venue or time? Also, we're also looking for interesting tourist things to do particularly if they relate to science or skepticism.
Well, for people new to Los Angeles (and people who live here but haven't a clue) I often recommend a visit to The Museum of Jurassic Technology (http://www.mjt.org/themainpage/main2.html). It's a place where art meets science, or art dresses up like science. It's not really woo. It's more of a realized concept.

But really, I was thinking about a meet up at some restaurant for dinner and talk. That shouldn't be too hard to arrange for.

I wonder what the CFI has going for that night? Hmmm...

[El_Spectre]

There has been talk of maybe doing a party saturday night at hcmom's place. It is well suited, but is also about 40 miles away from the port, so folks without a car have a challenge. She's under the weather and might not post much for a coupla days, but we spoke this weekend and she said that she wanted to ask how many folks would be interested, given the distance.

So... if you're interested, um... say so :)

[Cleon]

So... if you're interested, um... say so :)

So.

[Loon]

I will be in the area that evening. I'd like to join the party.

[Geek Goddess]

I'm not sure anything is planned yet, but a bunch of us from Atlanta are flying into LA around midday on Friday, March 6th and we will be in town all day Saturday presumably doing touristy/skeptic things like having our picture taken in front of the Scientology sign on Sunset.

Do you have a suggestion for a venue or time? Also, we're also looking for interesting tourist things to do particularly if they relate to science or skepticism.

Kittynh and i are each arriving about 1 p.m. on Saturday. Currently we are sharing a hotel near the port, but I'd dearly like to do something that afternoon and/or evening, and we can relocate our hotel.

I wasn't planning to rent a car, but will do so if people want to share.

[AZAtheist]

Nancy and I will be driving in and wouldn't mind joining in. We'll have a couple of seats available in the T-Bird.

[Geek Goddess]

Ah-HA! I found this today (for Puerta Vallarta):

Mexican Chocolate, Coffee and Vanilla Festival [Other]
The Mexican Chocolate, Coffee and Vanilla Festival will run from March
10 - 15, 2009 at the Vallarta Botanical Gardens. This event will
showcase their collection of chocolate and coffee trees, as well as
the numerous vanilla orchids that were planted during 2008. Enjoy
educational and inspiring demonstrations and a special menu dedicated
to chocolate, coffee and vanilla. Well-known speakers will share their
wisdom at 2:00 PM daily during the festival. On Saturday March 14,the
celebrations culminate with a party called �Food and Nectar of the
Gods " 6:00 pm to 9:30 pm. the food of the Gods being chocolate and
the nectar of the Gods being quality wine! This decadent event is
co-hosted by Charlotte Semple and Carol Fast of Xocodiva Artisan
Chocolates and Nina Goodhope of Bodega de Nina Fine Wines. Included in
the price of admission is a gourmet Mexican buffet. Free
transportation for this event is provided to and from Lázaro Cárdenas
Park on the south side. The price is yet to be announced. For further
information call the Botanical Gardens at 223-6182.

[Susan Gerbic]

Geek that is so awesome!

We won't be there during the evening hours will we?

Susan

[Geek Goddess]

Geek that is so awesome!

We won't be there during the evening hours will we?

Susan

Itinerary says docked until 8 p.m.

[Susan Gerbic]

Cool, if it isn't too far away that we can be assured of being returned to the ship on time I'm in!

ummm chocolate!

Susan

[hcmom]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4460018#post4460018

[Loon]

Just out of idle curiosity, is there anyone who has a cabin but still needs/wants a roommate?

[Cleon]

Just out of idle curiosity, is there anyone who has a cabin but still needs/wants a roommate?

Check with Jeff. It would be hella awesome if you could come.

[Loon]

There's a cabin open. I would need a roommate to afford it. Any other last minute cruise goers? All I ask is a non-smoker (and non-stabber).

[Cleon]

There's a cabin open. I would need a roommate to afford it. Any other last minute cruise goers? All I ask is a non-smoker (and non-stabber).

I sent out a tweet to see if anyone was interested in a last-minute booking.

[Loon]

Thanks!

[Cleon]

Just pinged the local skeptics list, too.

[Hutch]

There's a cabin open. I would need a roommate to afford it. Any other last minute cruise goers? All I ask is a non-smoker (and non-stabber).

Hell Loon, if I had known about it in time, I would have dropped my roomie in a New York minute.....:p:D;)

Hope someone comes along and makes it possible. Check with Joe Wagg, maybe he has someone that has talked to him.

[Cleon]

Hey Loon, what sort of cabin is it (ie, what sort of price tag per person)?

[Cleon]

Hell Loon, if I had known about it in time, I would have dropped my roomie in a New York minute.....:p:D;)


HEY! :mad: :p

[Susan Gerbic]

There's a cabin open. I would need a roommate to afford it. Any other last minute cruise goers? All I ask is a non-smoker (and non-stabber).

That would be great if you could go. Joe Wagg found Jesus a roommate just a couple months ago.

Hopefully they can do the same for you.

Susan

[Loon]

Crud. It looks like it's a single-only cabin. I can't afford that.

[Cleon]

Crud. It looks like it's a single-only cabin. I can't afford that.

Really? I didn't think those existed. I thought they just put singles in a regular cabin and put the beds together.

anyway...Weak. :(

[Geek Goddess]

Some of the rooms can take on a third bed - maybe someone would like another roomie in exchange for reducing their per-person cost very slightly

[Loon]

bump... There's a cabin available now: 1159/person. I'd be one of those people. I don't bite, smoke or stab.

[Cleon]

bump... There's a cabin available now: 1159/person. I'd be one of those people. I don't bite, smoke or stab.

I put the call out on Twitter. (Other tweeters, please do likewise.)

[Jeff Wagg]

It's time to get excited!

I'm going to mail out a schedule of events soon. We're going to have a blast! And there's at least one new speaker coming, so you're getting a bonus lecture or two.

And we have a guest musician joining us. He may not know that yet...

Current temperature in Puerto Vallarta: 82F.

[ottle]

It's time to get excited!

I'm going to mail out a schedule of events soon. We're going to have a blast! And there's at least one new speaker coming, so you're getting a bonus lecture or two.

And we have a guest musician joining us. He may not know that yet...

Current temperature in Puerto Vallarta: 82F.

Woo hooo!

[Cleon]

It's time to get excited!

Then I'm waaaaay ahead of you. :D


I'm going to mail out a schedule of events soon. We're going to have a blast! And there's at least one new speaker coming, so you're getting a bonus lecture or two.

w00t!


And we have a guest musician joining us. He may not know that yet...


Uh, FYI, I really don't like flying with my banjo...

[hcmom]

It's time to get excited!


Oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man!!!!

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4460018#post4460018

[Loon]

I would also point out that it is possible to have three in a cabin. You could get a fun extra new roommate and get a reduced rate on the cruise.

[Susan Gerbic]

Stirling and I both woke up this morning and said (to our own respective selves) "this time next week I will be standing LAX waiting for the shuttle to Long Beach"

Its hard to believe that the time is almost here. I have so much reading to get done before we leave, I have made the decision that I will not be taking any school work with me. (this was a tough decision) and will just have to find a way to make it up later if I can't get it done this week.

Also I am hoping that my ex-boyfriend (of the last 7 years) will be totally moved out of my house when I get back home!

I feel like I could almost start the year on Feb 15th and the days before it were all apart of 2008. Life is beginning again!

So are you all excited!

Susan

[hcmom]

So are you all excited!

Susan

Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man!!!!