The making of a suicide-bomber

[Mycroft]

Not long ago AUP and I discussed the making of a suicide bomber. I post this link because it describes the process in detail.


http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_18_03/Dressed_to_Kill/dressed_to_kill.html

[Mr Manifesto]

I imagine Israel can look forward to the making of a few more suicide bombers after their latest performance in the Gaza strip.

[Eos of the Eons]

Especially with all the incentives.

The actions of martyrs have been described as “sacred explosions.” The act of suicide is forbidden in Islam. But the spin-doctors of the Martyrs are well versed in the art of propaganda.

For families who have allowed their children to be sacrificed, the financial rewards are good. Each immediate family member has all his or her debts paid off by the Jihad Committee. Each receives a pension for life. While it varies, it is said to be a minimum of twice the income they received before their son or daughter died.

The money comes from Iran. It is laundered through the central banks from Damascus to Athens. From there it is electronically transferred to an account in Cairo. Then it is couriered to Gaza City for distribution.




Sick. No money to sponsor peace, only for death.

I will wonder why they just can't fight it out to the bitter end, and have one winner declared. Then whoever loses-has to leave, if there are any of them left.

And yes, that means US pull out completely.

Then the winner can say their god declared it to be that way, and the loser has to accept the consequences of all these years of fighting.

How else will it ever end?

I know, I'm just pretty naive about the whole thing. So, why does it ever have to end. They can just keep suicide bombing and fighting, etc. forever.

[dbuxtehude]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
I imagine Israel can look forward to the making of a few more suicide bombers after their latest performance in the Gaza strip.

Change "Israel" to "the US", and "Gaza strip" to "Iraq", and perhaps we can see a trend.

Does anyone else think suicide -bombing is a uniquely Muslim phenomenon? And, more importantly, why ?

[LW]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons

I will wonder why they just can't fight it out to the bitter end, and have one winner declared. Then whoever loses-has to leave, if there are any of them left.

Unfortunately, wars don't follow the same rules as sporting events.

Currently, the Israelis are much, much more powerful militarily. They would win any "old-style" open war in a short time. That's why the Palestinian extremists don't want an open war.

There have been few trials in history for arranging small staged battles instead of full-blown wars. They tend to have the problem that the losign side doesn't follow the agreement. The first recorded one was between Sparta and Argos sometime in 6th century BC. Three hundred men from both sides fought against each other but then there was an argument about the results so the next day there was a large-scale battle. (Spartians won).

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by dbuxtehude


Change "Israel" to "the US", and "Gaza strip" to "Iraq", and perhaps we can see a trend.

Does anyone else think suicide -bombing is a uniquely Muslim phenomenon? And, more importantly, why ?

I've had this argument before, and if you go down the same path as I did, you can look forward to a fair bit of goalpost shifting. Check out this (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27798) thread in which we isolate not only the fact that Muslims invented suicide bombing, but that the Muslim inventor was none other than Yasser Arafat! /sarcasm

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by LW


Unfortunately, wars don't follow the same rules as sporting events.

Currently, the Israelis are much, much more powerful militarily. They would win any "old-style" open war in a short time. That's why the Palestinian extremists don't want an open war.

There have been few trials in history for arranging small staged battles instead of full-blown wars. They tend to have the problem that the losign side doesn't follow the agreement. The first recorded one was between Sparta and Argos sometime in 6th century BC. Three hundred men from both sides fought against each other but then there was an argument about the results so the next day there was a large-scale battle. (Spartians won).


Hmm, yes-not a sporting event. Yet the spartians won. That was the end of it right?

I'm just sick of hearing about the bombings and hearing all the pain and death that ensues. It seems senseless on this end. On that end it means a big bonus for the one family, and glory. That's sick. Then you have a bunch of blown up bystanders. That's sick.

I'm going to go stick my head in the sand now, since my hands are tied. Hmmph.