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MaGZ
27th August 2008, 08:27 AM
Hillary Clinton was in streets of Chicago 40 years ago raising hell at the Democratic National Convention.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

Damien Evans
27th August 2008, 08:28 AM
Bizzare.

Darat
27th August 2008, 08:37 AM
Yep - someone interested in civil rights as a youngster entering public service sure is bizarre.... ;)

fishbob
27th August 2008, 08:40 AM
Hillary Clinton was in streets of Chicago 40 years ago raising hell at the Democratic National Convention.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

The article does not say what you say it says.
You got another source or are you just making stuff up?

Lisa Simpson
27th August 2008, 08:49 AM
She also attended the '68 Republican National Convention. Again, shocking that someone interested in politics would attend the conventions!

MaGZ
27th August 2008, 09:01 AM
Yep - someone interested in civil rights as a youngster entering public service sure is bizarre.... ;)

Are you unaware of what was going on in the streets of Chicago 40 years ago? It wasn’t some peaceful civil rights march singing “We Shall Overcome”. You show your ignorance of the times and don’t expect me to be you history tutor.

Darat
27th August 2008, 09:04 AM
Perhaps you should try reading the articles you link to?

MaGZ
27th August 2008, 09:05 AM
The article does not say what you say it says.
You got another source or are you just making stuff up?

I was just assuming Hillary was throwing feces and spiked projectiles at the cops. It was something 60’s radicals would do back then.

Loss Leader
27th August 2008, 09:05 AM
Are you unaware of what was going on in the streets of Chicago 40 years ago? It wasn’t some peaceful civil rights march singing “We Shall Overcome”. You show your ignorance of the times and don’t expect me to be you history tutor.


1. A person was once murdered in Chicago
2. Hillary Clinton once went to Chicago
Thus, Hillary Clinton is a lesbian.

Honestly, Herr Untergrupenfurer MaGZ, calm down.

cwalner
27th August 2008, 09:08 AM
Are you unaware of what was going on in the streets of Chicago 40 years ago? It wasn’t some peaceful civil rights march singing “We Shall Overcome”. You show your ignorance of the times and don’t expect me to be you history tutor.

Several accounts I have heard with admitedly Liberal bias claim that it was peaceful protests interrupted by a violent police riot.

You seem to imply that the protests were violent. Were you there?, I wasn't even born yet so I have know way of knowing what happened other than from 3rd party sources. The most objective source i've seen, recorded news footage, seems to support my claim as the most violent act that I saw a protestor commit was to resist arrest while unarmed against police in full riot gear.

Lisa Simpson
27th August 2008, 09:09 AM
Do you have any evidence that she participated in any radical events at the Convention?

Upchurch
27th August 2008, 09:11 AM
I was just assuming Hillary was throwing feces and spiked projectiles at the cops. It was something 60’s radicals would do back then.
You know what they say...

Mojo
27th August 2008, 09:14 AM
I was just assuming Hillary was throwing feces and spiked projectiles at the cops. It was something 60’s radicals would do back then.


But unfortunately, whoever wrote the article you link to would appear to have rather limited comprehension skills. You are basing your claim that "Hillary Clinton was in streets of Chicago 40 years ago raising hell at the Democratic National Convention" on an article which says "Hayden begins by noting that Hillary Clinton was in the streets of Chicago for three nights at the Democratic Party convention in 1968." However, the article by Hayden it cites merely says that Clinton "was in Chicago for three nights during the 1968 street confrontations." It does not support your claim that she was "in [the] streets of Chicago 40 years ago raising hell".

You really ought to check your sources before posting unsupported nonsense.

Better still would be for you to check your sources before not posting unsupported nonsense.

MaGZ
27th August 2008, 09:37 AM
Do you have any evidence that she participated in any radical events at the Convention?


At the time she was a radical and she was in the company of radicals.
Do you dispute this?

MaGZ
27th August 2008, 09:53 AM
Several accounts I have heard with admitedly Liberal bias claim that it was peaceful protests interrupted by a violent police riot.

You seem to imply that the protests were violent. Were you there?, I wasn't even born yet so I have know way of knowing what happened other than from 3rd party sources. The most objective source i've seen, recorded news footage, seems to support my claim as the most violent act that I saw a protestor commit was to resist arrest while unarmed against police in full riot gear.

Hell yes, the protesters were violent. The fact you are ill-informed on the events shows how the liberals have rewritten history. Do some research.

I was 14 then and I watched the 1968 convention live on television and enjoyed it thoroughly. What a pleasure it was to see the Chicago cops beat the crap out of the commie demonstrators…ah, good times.

Damien Evans
27th August 2008, 10:12 AM
Hell yes, the protesters were violent. The fact you are ill-informed on the events shows how the liberals have rewritten history. Do some research.

I was 14 then and I watched the 1968 convention live on television and enjoyed it thoroughly. What a pleasure it was to see the Chicago cops beat the crap out of the commie demonstrators…ah, good times.

Get help.

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 10:16 AM
I thought Hillary grew up in Chicago...it would be kind of hard for her not to be on the streets at one point or another....now, on the streets of Bejing 40 years ago...that would be a real story.

BTW...I had no idea she was a lesbian murderer. Now, so much makes sense.

Personally, 40 years ago, I was living in Detriot....so that would pretty much mean that I was, at least, a participant in the 67 Riot.

Lisa Simpson
27th August 2008, 10:18 AM
At the time she was a radical and she was in the company of radicals.
Do you dispute this?

No.

Do you have evidence that she participated in any of the violence?

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 10:21 AM
As long as were going down this path....where was George W. some 40 years ago...they want us to think he was doing gaurd duty in Alabama...but really? Maybe he was there getting some kind of specialty Klan training...or maybe he was really in Havana getting the Manchurian treatment so that he'd wreck America if elected president...or, maybe, he was one of the teachers at that Indonesian school....just don't know, do you?

MaGZ
27th August 2008, 10:26 AM
No.

Do you have evidence that she participated in any of the violence?

She at the very least was an accessory to the violence.

Cleon
27th August 2008, 10:29 AM
She at the very least was an accessory to the violence.

And you don't have any evidence of this, either.

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 10:37 AM
She at the very least was an accessory to the violence.

Sort of like a purse and pearls?

Doubt
27th August 2008, 11:02 AM
I thought Hillary grew up in Chicago...it would be kind of hard for her not to be on the streets at one point or another....now, on the streets of Bejing 40 years ago...that would be a real story.

BTW...I had no idea she was a lesbian murderer. Now, so much makes sense.

Personally, 40 years ago, I was living in Detriot....so that would pretty much mean that I was, at least, a participant in the 67 Riot.

So was I.

Hey, you were the guy that taught me how to make molotov cocktails!

Good to see you again.

I was only 4 then, but I had to learn sometime.

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 11:06 AM
I was all of 9....loved spray painting "Soul Brother" on the windows, however.

That means you don't remember when Livernois (sp?) was like a real, lively street with shops and stuff. Man, Detroit was a real city then...bad as it was.

The Mayor there now, there's a piece of work. Where was he 40o years ago, I wonder, it shouldn't matter that he's only in his 30s.

Doubt
27th August 2008, 11:08 AM
Hell yes, the protesters were violent. The fact you are ill-informed on the events shows how the liberals have rewritten history. Do some research.

I was 14 then and I watched the 1968 convention live on television and enjoyed it thoroughly. What a pleasure it was to see the Chicago cops beat the crap out of the commie demonstrators…ah, good times.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,844633-1,00.html

But after April 1968, Daley criticized his police for their restraint and urged them to shoot to kill arsonists and maim looters. Says the report: "The effect on the police became apparent several weeks later when they attacked demonstrators, bystanders and media representatives at a civic-center peace march."

The violent radicals were the police.

Alferd_Packer
27th August 2008, 11:24 AM
She at the very least was an accessory to the violence.

So everyone in Chicago was an accessory. Wow. Stupid.

dudalb
27th August 2008, 11:29 AM
Several accounts I have heard with admitedly Liberal bias claim that it was peaceful protests interrupted by a violent police riot.

You seem to imply that the protests were violent. Were you there?, I wasn't even born yet so I have know way of knowing what happened other than from 3rd party sources. The most objective source i've seen, recorded news footage, seems to support my claim as the most violent act that I saw a protestor commit was to resist arrest while unarmed against police in full riot gear.


Yes, the demonstrations were violent and apparently a few protestors were provoking the police. Probably both sides were to blame.

You seem inteligent so a piece of advice: Learn some history. The ignorance of History I see around me is one of my real personal peeves. And that so many who claim to be political activists are ignorant of history is amazing. It seems to me that an interest in History is a basic requirement to be well informed about politics.

Alferd_Packer
27th August 2008, 11:35 AM
The police were not there to create disorder, they were there to preserve disorder.

godless dave
27th August 2008, 11:38 AM
Are you unaware of what was going on in the streets of Chicago 40 years ago? It wasn’t some peaceful civil rights march singing “We Shall Overcome”.

Nope, it was a protest against the Vietnam War and against the Democratic party's refusal to oppose the war. If Clinton really did participate, then good for her.

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 11:39 AM
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You seem inteligent so a piece of advice: Learn some history. The ignorance of History I see around me is one of my real personal peeves. And that so many who claim to be political activists are ignorant of history is amazing. It seems to me that an interest in History is a basic requirement to be well informed about politics.

You seem to have forgotten the rule that small genetailia prevents serious learning and reduces one to parroting neo-nazi propoganda as truth. Its true. I read it on Wiki. ;)

godless dave
27th August 2008, 11:40 AM
I was just assuming Hillary was throwing feces and spiked projectiles at the cops. It was something 60’s radicals would do back then.

Source for this claim?

Remember, the cops were infringing on the right of protestors to peacably assemble. It's too bad we don't have protestors like that these days.

fuelair
27th August 2008, 11:47 AM
Yes, the demonstrations were violent and apparently a few protestors were provoking the police. Probably both sides were to blame.

You seem inteligent so a piece of advice: Learn some history. The ignorance of History I see around me is one of my real personal peeves. And that so many who claim to be political activists are ignorant of history is amazing. It seems to me that an interest in History is a basic requirement to be well informed about politics.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. As are those who do not try to understand it.

headscratcher4
27th August 2008, 11:49 AM
Whereas if you simply can re-write history, you will always be right.

cwalner
27th August 2008, 11:58 AM
Yes, the demonstrations were violent and apparently a few protestors were provoking the police. Probably both sides were to blame.

You seem inteligent so a piece of advice: Learn some history. The ignorance of History I see around me is one of my real personal peeves. And that so many who claim to be political activists are ignorant of history is amazing. It seems to me that an interest in History is a basic requirement to be well informed about politics.

Please read the link posted by Doubt (I do not have access to post links yet)

an objective study, based on review of witness testimony and review of news coverage from the riots, concluded that it was a police riot and the protestors did not act violently except in response to violence from the police. my favorite quote from the article.

Provocative Obscenity. Words had such great force in the Chicago confrontation that the report must be the first in U.S. Government history to print "the actual obscenities used by the participants—demonstrators and police alike." The Walker study explains that the "extremely obscene language was a contributing factor to the violence" and "its frequency and intensity were such that to omit it would inevitably understate the effect it had." Since the report is otherwise couched largely in the turgid prose common to bureaucracy, the insertion of so many pungent Anglo-Saxon expletives relating to or synonymous with copulation creates a surrealistic effect.

This is the most violent act that the report shows the demonstrators performing before being attacked by the cops. While I agree that this may be considered provocation, We all have a right to expect police to keep cool under pressure. They are theorhetically professionals trained for high stress situations.

godless dave
27th August 2008, 03:31 PM
There may have been some protestors who used violence first, or who committed acts of vandalism. But before that even happened, the police were called in to break up a peaceful demonstration.

GreyICE
27th August 2008, 07:13 PM
Well, given the poster and the source, I just had to look up... well, you know who.

He gained power during Germany's period of crisis after World War I. Supported by industrialists and conservative segments of German society, Hitler used his charismatic oratory skills emphasizing the dangers the nation faced from International Jewry and Communism. After restructuring the economy and rearming the military, he was given emergency powers to lead the nation. He pursued an aggressive foreign policy to expand German Lebensraum (living space), and moved his forces into Poland ostensibly to protect ethnic Germans. The invasion was used as an excuse by countries allied with Poland–principally France and Great Britain–to declare war on Germany, starting World War II.

For a brief period Hitler united Europe against the threat from the Soviet Union. However, Hitler’s Germany was defeated by forces outside of Europe: namely the military might of the United Sates and Asiatic nationalities within the Soviet Union. In the final days of the war, Hitler and his new wife, Eva Braun, committed suicide in his underground bunker in Berlin, as the city was overrun by the Red Army of the Soviet Union.

SezMe
27th August 2008, 08:27 PM
Since Hillary is NOT the nominee, a fact which has been known for weeks now, why did you start a thread about 40 year-old behavior of a person whose name will not be on anybody's ballot?

Darat
28th August 2008, 01:17 AM
Because she's evil and obviously one of the master minds behind the scenes, her cunning plan was to be seen to so-called fight to the last possible moment for the nomination whilst all the time actually working to ensure that one of the NWO's chosen folk becomes the next President of the USA. I bet she's even related to the Rothschilds!

Mojo
28th August 2008, 01:21 AM
I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overlady.

Upchurch
28th August 2008, 06:26 AM
Since Hillary is NOT the nominee, a fact which has been known for weeks now, why did you start a thread about 40 year-old behavior of a person whose name will not be on anybody's ballot?

Old habits die hard.

Darth Rotor
28th August 2008, 08:40 AM
Hillary Clinton was in streets of Chicago 40 years ago
Does your source indicate that she was a freelancer turning tricks, or was Abbie Hoffman her pimp?

headscratcher4
28th August 2008, 08:42 AM
Does your source indicate that she was a freelancer turning tricks, or was Abbie Hoffman her pimp?


Ha!

Of course "in the streets" is a lot harder than "on the streets..." It also begs the questioin of how she was "in" those streets...

ZirconBlue
28th August 2008, 09:48 AM
Since Hillary is NOT the nominee, a fact which has been known for weeks now, why did you start a thread about 40 year-old behavior of a person whose name will not be on anybody's ballot?


Maybe this is supposed to be a parody of the "Barrack Obama was in Indonesia 40 years ago" thread?

Cleon
28th August 2008, 09:57 AM
Maybe this is supposed to be a parody of the "Barrack Obama was in Indonesia 40 years ago" thread?

Normally, I'd agree, except they were started by the same person within minutes of each other.

ZirconBlue
28th August 2008, 10:08 AM
Normally, I'd agree, except they were started by the same person within minutes of each other.


I know. I forgot to add one of these: ;)

Kthulhut Fhtagn
28th August 2008, 12:39 PM
I'll take this story seriously when it's not from wikipedia for nazis (http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ritual_murder).

WildCat
28th August 2008, 12:51 PM
Hey, I was on the streets of Chicago 40 years ago! Of course, I was a few weeks shy of my 2nd birthday and those "streets" was the sidewalk in front of our house in the Mt. Greenwood neighborhood.

headscratcher4
28th August 2008, 12:58 PM
But were you in the streets?

WildCat
28th August 2008, 01:05 PM
But were you in the streets?
No, but rumor has it some people who crossed Al Capone are.

headscratcher4
28th August 2008, 01:50 PM
indeed...though it was less than 40 years ago, Jimmy Hoffa may now be in the streets of Chicago (or Detroit, for that matter)