Cheney to Israelis: "Russia giving weapons to terrorists"

[Thunder]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1018583.html

this is usually the justification for military action against a country.

"either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists".

Bush made it clear they would not distinguish between terror groups and the nations that support and harbor them.

what exactly is Cheney getting at??

[WildCat]

this is usually the justification for military action against a country.
Examples?

[Thunder]

um...Afghanistan and Iraq. Was that a rhetorical question or just honest ignorance?

[Oliver]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1018583.html

this is usually the justification for military action against a country.

"either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists".

Bush made it clear they would not distinguish between terror groups and the nations that support and harbor them.

what exactly is Cheney getting at??


Cheney is saber-rattling about the fact that Russia isn't crawling
up his ass. It's not just about Georgia and the parts that want
independence like Cheney's forefathers - it's also about the fact,
that Iran and Russia doesn't have much hostile beef because there
is no reason for that.

[CapelDodger]

um...Afghanistan and Iraq. Was that a rhetorical question or just honest ignorance?

Two examples to back up "usually" is pretty lame, given how many thousands of wars there have been. This "terrorism" thing is new, after-the-commie-threat stuff, and Iraq was a WMD thing anyway.

How very short memories can be ...

[CapelDodger]

Cheney is saber-rattling about the fact that Russia isn't crawling
up his ass. It's not just about Georgia and the parts that want
independence like Cheney's forefathers - it's also about the fact,
that Iran and Russia doesn't have much hostile beef because there
is no reason for that.

Far from it. Iran and Russia have much in common. They aspire to be regional powers, they have long histories of being regional powers, and they're both faced with the same inept wannabe global power. (And no, I don't mean by China. They'll get their turn later, if they care to take it.)

[Matteo Martini]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1018583.html

this is usually the justification for military action against a country.


Twenty years ago, the justification was to stop communism..

[Kopji]

Religion is opium for leaders, and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is seeking to impose terror and religious hegemony on the Middle East as a whole in the name of fanatic religious beliefs, Peres told his colleague. He went on to urge the U.S. and Europe to produce an alternative energy source, explaining that oil profits fund most of the world's terror and its extremist leaders such as Ahmadinejad and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez.
ibid (to Dick Cheney)

Stop those presses! Peres has the solution! All we gotta do is come up with an alternative energy source to oil. Pure genius. How has this escaped us? We're gonna put top guys right on this.

Huh. I thought that religion was opium for the masses, not the leaders. It doesn't really make sense if religion is opium for the leaders. Why, they'd all go to sleep.

(I thought that for a minute I was reading The Onion).

[WildCat]

um...Afghanistan and Iraq. Was that a rhetorical question or just honest ignorance?
What weapons did Afghanistan give to terrorists?

Was selling weapons to terrorists the main justification of the Iraq war?

I really hope you are able to support your claim that "this is usually the justification for military action against a country". But I suspect that by "usually" you really mean "it was part of the justification in one particular war", and you are simply writing down whatever your brain farts out.

[Darth Rotor]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1018583.html

this is usually the justification for military action against a country.

"either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists".

Bush made it clear they would not distinguish between terror groups and the nations that support and harbor them.

what exactly is Cheney getting at??
Yeah, I could have sworn I heard Maggie Thatcher say precisely that as she sent that fleet off to recapture the Falklands. :rolleyes: Likewise Saddam when he went after the **** Al Arab, and Pol Pot when he got into it with the Vietnamese, and likewise the Pakistanis, back when there were two Pakistans, when they mixed it up with the Indians (and didn't do so hot.)

*slams head on desk*

Were you trying to say something else, and just stumble over the words?

In other words, could you rephrase that so that what you actually were trying to get at is coherent?

Bush made it clear they would not distinguish between terror groups and the nations that support and harbor them.
Which is precisely why he bombed Ireland.

Oh, wait, he didn't.

Which is precisely why he bombed Spain, and France, where the ETA hang out.

Oh, wait, he didn't.

Care to try again?

DR

[mrbaracuda]

*slams head on desk*

Careful! ;)

[Thunder]

What weapons did Afghanistan give to terrorists?

Was selling weapons to terrorists the main justification of the Iraq war?

I really hope you are able to support your claim that "this is usually the justification for military action against a country". But I suspect that by "usually" you really mean "it was part of the justification in one particular war", and you are simply writing down whatever your brain farts out.

Afghanistan for years, under the Taliban, gave safe harbor and support to Al Qaeda.

[Thunder]

Yeah, I could have sworn I heard Maggie Thatcher say precisely that as she sent that fleet off to recapture the Falklands. :rolleyes: Likewise Saddam when he went after the **** Al Arab, and Pol Pot when he got into it with the Vietnamese, and likewise the Pakistanis, back when there were two Pakistans, when they mixed it up with the Indians (and didn't do so hot.)

*slams head on desk*

Were you trying to say something else, and just stumble over the words?

In other words, could you rephrase that so that what you actually were trying to get at is coherent?


Which is precisely why he bombed Ireland.

Oh, wait, he didn't.

Which is precisely why he bombed Spain, and France, where the ETA hang out.

Oh, wait, he didn't.

Care to try again?

DR

The Irish government has never given financial or military support to the IRA. Spain nor France has never given support to the ETA.

what a dumb statemant you made.

[WildCat]

Afghanistan for years, under the Taliban, gave safe harbor and support to Al Qaeda.
You said weapons, and have offered no evidence of the sort. AFAIK, al Qaeda buys there own weapons with the money they raise.

Oh, and you may have noticed al Qaeda actually has attacked us on several occasions.

Do you think the Taliban would still be in power if their tenants hadn't attacked us?