Filmmaker Urges International Tribunal to Probe 9/11

[Darkhole]

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3626100,00.html

[Drudgewire]

"Critics find themselves accused of conspiracy theories, but the biggest conspiracy is to be found in the official 9/11 version of the US government which maintains that Osama bin Laden, from a cave in Afghanistan, along with 19 young Arabs, combined to carry out the most perfidious attack in the history of mankind," he said.

"That just doesn't add up. For me the most important contradiction is how the air defences of the greatest military power on the planet failed to prevent such attacks occurring and that no intercZZZZZZZZZZZZZ."


:slp:

[CHF]

Italian film-maker Giulietto Chiesa...

Who?

[A W Smith]

ahh the old arabs in caves canard.

The only time they were in caves was when troops chased them there post 9/11.

[twinstead]

arguments from personal incredulity ROCK!

[T.A.M.]

Should we know who this filmmaker is? I personally have never heard of him.

From reading the article, seems to be MORE OF THE SAME TIRED CANARDS.

TAM:)

[CptColumbo]

Who?He's world famous in Italy. :)

[Pardalis]

We really should stop calling people who edit other people's images as "filmmakers", it devalues the whole profession.

[uk_dave]

He's got an urge, has he?
That'll do it.

[A W Smith]

nothing comes up in an IMDB search for Giulietto Chiesa (http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Giulietto+Chiesa&x=13&y=5)

why is that?

:dl:

[beachnut]

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3626100,00.html
People exposing their stupidity. Now you know who can't figure out things.
Giulietto Chiesa
David Ray Griffin
Andreas von Buelow
Juergen Elsaesser
These guys can't connect the dots.

The bad part is he is spreading lies

[WildCat]

nothing comes up in an IMDB search for Giulietto Chiesa (http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Giulietto+Chiesa&x=13&y=5)

why is that?
IMDB doesn't count youtube videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/GiuliettoChiesa)?

[Confuseling]

The most perfidious attack in the history of mankind?

Crikey. How about - the worst thing that ever happened in the History of the World?

See, I'm good at this.

[Mince]

Meh.

Wake me when a good filmmaker urges international tribunal to investigate 9/11.

[DC]

it is not a Youtube artist, its the guy who made "Zero : An Investigation into 9/11"

[Pardalis]

it is not a Youtube artist, its the guy who made "Zero : An Investigation into 9/11"

So he's made a regurgitation of every other crappy 9/11 CT films... :rolleyes:

A copy of a copy of a copy... Like evolution gone awry in an inbred population.

[Walter Ego]

Should we know who this filmmaker is? I personally have never heard of him.

From reading the article, seems to be MORE OF THE SAME TIRED CANARDS.

TAM:)

Giulietto Chiesa, an Italian journalist and politician (socialist) is a member of the European Parliament and the 'filmmaker' of the aptly titled 9/11 documentary Zero.

By an interesting coincidence, zero is exactly the number of invited journalists who showed up for a screening of the film last February at the EP. This notable absence of the press was, according to Chiesa, the result of intimidation by... you guessed it, the big bad U.S. of A.

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[Firestone]

Nothing new (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=108492) ...

The screening in the European parliament had zero effect.

ETA: or what Walter Ego said! ;)

[Undesired Walrus]

We really should stop calling people who edit other people's images as "filmmakers", it devalues the whole profession.

Stanley was killed by the Illuminati for exposing their sexual antics in EWS don't you know.

[dudalb]

I see Italy is rather careless about who they send to represent them in the EU Parliament.

[dudalb]

nothing comes up in an IMDB search for Giulietto Chiesa (http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Giulietto+Chiesa&x=13&y=5)

why is that?

:dl:

COsidering some of the people who do have a page on IMDB, that is freaking embarassing for somebody claiming to be a filmmakekr.

[CHF]

it is not a Youtube artist, its the guy who made "Zero : An Investigation into 9/11"

Ah, no wonder I'd never heard of him! :D

Here was I thinking he'd made an actual movie when all he's done is taken the same ol' crap and given it a new soundtrack.

After the incredible success of ZERO I can see why he thinks he's in a position to call for a new investigation.

[CptColumbo]

it is not a Youtube artist, its the guy who made "Zero : An Investigation into 9/11""Youtube artist?" Like the "Sandwich Artists" at Subway, where they say they're going to make you something edible, but it tastes like crap.

[Tbone]

"Youtube artist?" Like the "Sandwich Artists" at Subway, where they say they're going to make you something edible, but it tastes like crap.

I will not let you degrade the good name of Subway. If I had a glove and way to reach across the internet, you would be in for a duel!

[beachnut]

Ah, no wonder I'd never heard of him! :D

Here was I thinking he'd made an actual movie when all he's done is taken the same ol' crap and given it a new soundtrack.

After the incredible success of ZERO I can see why he thinks he's in a position to call for a new investigation.

ZERO? the amount of evidence or the IQ required to believe 9/11 truth failed ideas?

ZERO, what a movie. At least 9/11 truth has funny names for themselves, "truth" as they spew lies, and ZERO for a big movie exposing their nonsense.

[CptColumbo]

I will not let you degrade the good name of Subway. If I had a glove and way to reach across the internet, you would be in for a duel!Is it one of those thin plastic gloves from out of the kleenex box?

[Thunder]

:slp:

What is with 9-11 Sheepers and Arabs in caves? They love to focus on that. I smell racism.

Along with the fact that they constantly diminish their educational achievemants and expertise.

The 19 were not just a bunch of stupid A-Rabs in a cave.

[Tweeter]

Another nutjob, huh.
Damn , i was always taught that truthers were bums that lived in there mothers basement. Guess you live and learn.

[defaultdotxbe]

I see Italy is rather careless about who they send to represent them in the EU Parliament.
you got that right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini)

[PhantomWolf]

You know there has to be a word for people that can't figure out why the USANG couldn't intercept the planes within the time period between notification and the plane crashing. After all when given a total of 9, 0, 3, and -4 minutes of notice they should have been able to do it, even if it involved going back in time, right?

[Tweeter]

Theres a word for people that can figure it out.
Its gullible.

[dudalb]

you got that right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini)


I had forgotten about that Il Duce's grandaughter who seems to want to follow in Benito's footsteps.
SHe and Chiesa indicate that Italy continues to deserve it reputation as having one of Europe's most screwed up political systems.

[Travis]

Theres a word for people that can figure it out.
Its gullible.

Your evidence of a NATO stand down is?

[Tweeter]

Travis, how many airforce bases are there on the east coast within minutes of dc and new york? My evidence is logical thinking.

[PhantomWolf]

Theres a word for people that can figure it out.
Its gullible.

Since the time between NEADS being informed and the planes crashing was taken directly from the tapes, tapes that contridicted NORAD's own story, how do you propose that the USANG could have managed an intercept in 9, 0, 3, or -4 minutes? Especially given that the 9 minutes of notice was only that a plane had been hijacked and at that point in time there was no requirement for any intercept to even be performed without an offical FAA request (something that didn't come through until well after the event).

Exactly how do you think they should have managed to intercept planes that were either crashing, or had crashed, and were 3 minutes from crashing when NEADS was first informed of them being hijacked?

[PhantomWolf]

Travis, how many airforce bases are there on the east coast within minutes of dc and new york? My evidence is logical thinking.

How many of those bases had armed planes sitting on the runway with pilots in them ready to take off and chase an airliner on a minutes notice?

[Confuseling]

Travis, how many airforce bases are there on the east coast within minutes of dc and new york? My evidence is logical thinking.

Please put said thinking capacity to use coming up with an explanation as to why absolutely nobody in or retired from the Air Force has said "Hang on a second... We should have been able to stop that!" then.

Thanks


[please. I'm really curious about this one]

[Pardalis]

"Italian film-maker Giulietto Chiesa [...] has called for an international tribunal to probe events."

Exclusive video released of the result:

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[Tweeter]

They may not of been able to stop it, but they surely could of had a jet within striking distance of the second tower hit and definitely at the pentagon. I seriously cant believe our military is that incompetent, like you all portray.

[PhantomWolf]

They may not of been able to stop it, but they surely could of had a jet within striking distance of the second tower hit and definitely at the pentagon. I seriously cant believe our military is that incompetent, like you all portray.

How many people in the US knew that WTC 2 was going to be hit before it was? What time was NEADS informed of 175 being hijacked? What time did 175 hit WTC 2? How many jet fighters can get to an intercept a plane even 50 miles away in that time?

How many people in the US knew the Pentagon was going to be hit when it was? What time was NEADS informed of 77 being hijacked? What time did 77 hit the Pentagon? How many jet fighters can launch and intercept a plane even 50 miles away in that time?

[Thunder]

They may not of been able to stop it, but they surely could of had a jet within striking distance of the second tower hit and definitely at the pentagon. I seriously cant believe our military is that incompetent, like you all portray.

our air force was not trained to take out 4 simultaneously hijacked aircraft, flying within the USA, all with their transponders off.

we all knew this in 2003. why didnt you?

[PhantomWolf]

we all knew this in 2003. why didnt you?

It took you till 2003 to figure it out Parky? ;)

[beachnut]

They may not of been able to stop it, but they surely could of had a jet within striking distance of the second tower hit and definitely at the pentagon. I seriously cant believe our military is that incompetent, like you all portray.

So you combine insults to hide your total lack of knowledge of US airspace prior to 9/11? You have no fact, no evidence, and no working knowledge of US airspace prior to 9/11. With that in mind, why do you insult the military? Why spew insults backed up only with your hearsay and false information? 7 years and you can only sling insults.


Why post something that clearly reveals your ignorance on airspace issues? You should read up on the issues.

[Travis]

As I've stated before a successful interception wouldn't have done much good anyways unless the fighter pilots are psychic. They would have simply identified the aircraft and then watched in horror as they hit the buildings.

They don't just show up and shoot down a civilian airliner.

[PhantomWolf]

As I've stated before a successful interception wouldn't have done much good anyways unless the fighter pilots are psychic. They would have simply identified the aircraft and then watched in horror as they hit the buildings.

They don't just show up and shoot down a civilian airliner.

This quite true. Even if by a miracle they'd managed to get off the ground and to 11 before ir crashed, there was no reason to suspect it was going to fly into a building until it did. Assuming they were even in the area when 175 arrived, they'd have had, well zero minutes between warning and impact so they'd just have gotten to watch them crash. There was no real reason to have planes over DC since it was NY under attack, though they had planes heading there following a ghost. With the warning they got, any planes they did have there would have been as useful as the C-130 was, watched as 77 hit. It wasn't until 93 that fighters would have been any use, and despite some people's delusions, they never got there.

[gumboot]

Tweeter is incapable of learning. Don't waste your time guys.

[Brainache]

Giulietto Chiesa

John Cheese?
Jan Kee
Yanky???

Inside Job!

[doobiedoright]

They may not of been able to stop it, but they surely could of had a jet within striking distance of the second tower hit and definitely at the pentagon. I seriously cant believe our military is that incompetent, like you all portray.

Maybe you should read up on just how long it takes to arm and pre flight a aircraft.
You could even look at the conflicts in the gulf.....some aircraft were hot pitted as it were...I betting it was more than 4 or 9 minutes!

[walkyrie]

Euro Parliament Giulietto Chiesa Expose george w. bush regime lies and cover-up about 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFNWUfLvzs

[lionking]

All this shows is that the European Parliament (does anyone take it seriously?) has fools in it.

[Bell]

Why doesn't this Italian Euro parliament member devote his time and effort into exposing all the crap that is going on inside his own country's government?

[Sam.I.Am]

How in the hell does a "Very successful film" at a film festival not get distributed? That's pretty much the same as a well received dish at a restaurant never being served again... because it was so well received.

[lionking]

How in the hell does a "Very successful film" at a film festival not get distributed? That's pretty much the same as a well received dish at a restaurant never being served again... because it was so well received.
You really don't understand the mechinations of the NWO, do you. :)

[BigAl]

Euro Parliament Giulietto Chiesa Expose george w. bush regime lies and cover-up about 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFNWUfLvzs

It's 2008 all over again.

[T.A.M.]

Where is Cynthia McKinney? Not another kook trying to convince his mates about this ******** again.

Oh, and by the way, isn't this story quite old?

TAM;)

[16.5]

Euro Parliament Giulietto Chiesa Expose george w. bush regime lies and cover-up about 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFNWUfLvzs

March 2008, 4100 views.

Neat spam Val!

[Foolmewunz]

Euro Parliament Giulietto Chiesa Expose george w. bush regime lies and cover-up about 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFNWUfLvzs

Wow! That is so topical, and so overwhelming with its evidence that I'm sure it'll run George Bush right out of the White House.

[ElMondoHummus]

Oh, thank God... I thought this was a resurrection of the Cossiga quote from back in 2007 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=100367). This is at least newer; it's only from 2008 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4018273). :rolleyes:

Well, this is progress folks. At least it's not a resurrection of junk from 2006. ;)

[Childlike Empress]

Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739) is the film in question, Zero:

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[triforcharity]

Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739) is the film in question, Zero:

2296490368603788739

Amount of minutes most here will spend watching is.....coincidentally, also ZERO.

[Thunder]

"That means that some 30 million Russian citizens will learn the truth about what happened, which is a very big result for me."

why do we need a new investigation if he already knows the truth?

[Scott Sommers]

Edited for rule 12.

[DC]

All this shows is that the European Parliament (does anyone take it seriously?) has fools in it.

:dl:

[dudalb]

Another cruddy amateur level Twoofer film.
One of the worst things about Loose Change it the way it inspired a whole slew of crappily made films that claim to expose "the truth" about 9/11,when the only thing they expose is the total lack of filmmaking talent by the filmmaker.

[Thunder]

lets get one things straight;

these are not films. they are videos.

[djlunacee]

lets get one things straight;

these are not films. they are videos.

evidently recyclable as well