Obama and Biden voted for the Bridge to Nowhere; McCain did not!

[mortimer]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2005-264

[gdnp]

LOL.

A bill including the "bridge to nowhere" and lord knows how much other spending passes 93-1, with Biden and Obama both voting for it. McCain didn't vote for it? Oh, that's because he was one of the 6 "no votes". Sheesh, the least he could have done is abstain. ;)

[joobz]

Considering there was really no benefit in there for Arizona, I'm not really shocked McCain didn't vote for the bill.

[BenBurch]

Debunked as meaningless long, long ago.

These spending bills have thousands of line items and passage is conditional upon people's pork being in place. Remove a Senator's pork, lose his vote and the votes of any others in his clique.

The sin devolves on the Senator who sold his vote for the pork and the state that asked for it.

[sthomson]

Obama and Biden voted for the Bridge to Nowhere; McCain did not!

So? Obama and Biden aren't claming that they didn't support said bridge. It seems like this thread really, really misses the point. There's only one ticket that's pledging to cut pork barrel spending, and there's only one ticket that is lying about their support of a particular pork barrel project.

Edit: I think it's unreasonable to expect any state governor/mayor NOT to support a pork barrel project! But to lie about it later is just silly.

[mortimer]

Debunked as meaningless long, long ago.

These spending bills have thousands of line items and passage is conditional upon people's pork being in place. Remove a Senator's pork, lose his vote and the votes of any others in his clique.

The sin devolves on the Senator who sold his vote for the pork and the state that asked for it.

You may consider it meaningless and debunked, but that doesn't make it so. What I posted is factually correct.

[joobz]

You may consider it meaningless and debunked, but that doesn't make it so. What I posted is factually correct. But neither did he vote against it. The only one who did was Democrat Bayh (indiana).

This really doesn't support his claim of being a crusader against pork.
Unless of course you think a vote of "No comment" = mavericky.

[BenBurch]

You may consider it meaningless and debunked, but that doesn't make it so. What I posted is factually correct.

And actually stupid.

[mortimer]

Edit: I think it's unreasonable to expect any state governor/mayor NOT to support a pork barrel project! But to lie about it later is just silly.
I don't see where she lied about it. I haven't seen her state that she was against it from the beginning. And she did in fact kill the project. Now, she may prefer not to own up to her flip-flop, but I don't see where she's lied about the project.

[BenBurch]

... I don't see where she's lied about the project.

You are the only one who doesn't.

[mortimer]

And actually stupid.
Facts are stupid?

[joobz]

Facts are stupid?
No. But comments like that are.:D

[mortimer]

You are the only one who doesn't.
Feel free to prove me wrong.

[BenBurch]

Facts are stupid?

"Facts are stupid things."
- Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

[mortimer]

"Facts are stupid things."
- Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

See, Ben, you and Ol' Ronnie found common ground! ;)

[NobbyNobbs]

You could just as easily spin this data the other way by saying that whereas only 88% of Democratic Senators voted for it, 96% of Republican Senators voted for it. Or you could point out that the only vote against it was from a Democratic Senator.

It's all meaningless.

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

"Facts are stupid things."
- Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

Oh please! If you're gonna quote a man to make him look stupid you better quote the man to make him look stupid!

"What does an actor know about politics?" -criticizing Ed Asner for opposing American foreign policy

"What makes him think a middle-aged actor, who's played with a chimp, could have a future in politics?"-on Clint Eastwood's bid to become mayor of Carmel

[gdnp]

I don't see where she lied about it. I haven't seen her state that she was against it from the beginning. And she did in fact kill the project. Now, she may prefer not to own up to her flip-flop, but I don't see where she's lied about the project.

Check out this link (http://www.propublica.org/article/palin-administration-still-pursuing-nowhere-project-913/). I'm waiting for her to give the $73 million back. Isn't that what "thanks but no thanks" and "we'll build it ourselves" means?