Congressional Anthrax Hearings

[MaGZ]

The Congressional Anthrax Hearings began today.

The hearings will be replayed on CSPAN-1 tonight (9-16-08) at 10:31pm eastern
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

[TragicMonkey]

I thought the band Anthrax was going to play in the Capitol Building. That did sound just a little too cool for Congress.

[Gurdur]

I'm just wondering how MaGZ figured anthrax was Jewish or black, seeing how he's interested in nothing else.. I suppose he postulates circumcized bacteria or gangsta bacteria or something,

[MaGZ]

I thought the band Anthrax was going to play in the Capitol Building. That did sound just a little too cool for Congress.

Joke about it if you like, but the US Capitol was attacked with a weapon of mass destruction from a country in the Middle East: “weaponized” anthrax seven years ago this month.

[paximperium]

Joke about it if you like, but the US Capitol was attacked with a weapon of mass destruction from a country in the Middle East: “weaponized” anthrax seven years ago this month.

Ummm...how'd you figure it was a country in the Middle East?(wink...wink...nudge...nudge...it's the Joooz)

[MaGZ]

I'm just wondering how MaGZ figured anthrax was Jewish or black, seeing how he's interested in nothing else.. I suppose he postulates circumcized bacteria or gangsta bacteria or something,

The anthrax came from the IIBR in Ness Ziona, Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Institute_for_Biological_Research

[paximperium]

The anthrax came from the IIBR in Ness Ziona, Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Institute_for_Biological_Research

Am I psychic or what? I'm going to go for the Million Dollar Challenge!!!

[TragicMonkey]

Joke about it if you like, but the US Capitol was attacked with a weapon of mass destruction from a country in the Middle East: “weaponized” anthrax seven years ago this month.

Darling sweetie honeypie, anthrax isn't a weapon of mass destruction. A weapon of mass destruction has to be capable of destroying at least one building. You can sort of see the difference. Nobody asks "what did they die of?" after a weapon of mass destruction goes off. They ask "what was there before the crater?"

[Doctor Evil]

Am I psychic or what? I'm going to go for the Million Dollar Challenge!!!

I suspect that you will need a more impressive prediction, such as 'the sun will shine tomorrow'.

[GreNME]

Darling sweetie honeypie, anthrax isn't a weapon of mass destruction. A weapon of mass destruction has to be capable of destroying at least one building. You can sort of see the difference. Nobody asks "what did they die of?" after a weapon of mass destruction goes off. They ask "what was there before the crater?"

Um, actually, you're wrong there. The whole "weapons of mass destruction" saying that Dubya and the GOP popularized is basically a rewording of the military designation of NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) weapons. Anthrax (the spore, not the band) definitely falls under such a designation.

However, MaGZ's other assertion-- that it came from the Middle East-- is complete balderdash and nonsense.

[TragicMonkey]

Um, actually, you're wrong there. The whole "weapons of mass destruction" saying that Dubya and the GOP popularized is basically a rewording of the military designation of NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) weapons. Anthrax (the spore, not the band) definitely falls under such a designation.

Well, that proves my point. The military has never been particularly careful with the language. All those acronyms!

Destruction happens to objects. Death happens to living things. A "weapon of mass destruction" (which ought to be "weapon of massive destruction", if anything) would wreck objects, where a weapon of mass death would kill people while leaving objects unscathed.

[MarkCorrigan]

, where a weapon of mass death would kill people while leaving objects unscathed.

A neutron bomb?




......Sorry.

[MaGZ]

Um, actually, you're wrong there. The whole "weapons of mass destruction" saying that Dubya and the GOP popularized is basically a rewording of the military designation of NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) weapons. Anthrax (the spore, not the band) definitely falls under such a designation.

However, MaGZ's other assertion-- that it came from the Middle East-- is complete balderdash and nonsense.

So, are you convinced Ivins did it?

[dudalb]

The anthrax came from the IIBR in Ness Ziona, Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Institute_for_Biological_Research

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1884048ca062020e8b.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13773)

[paximperium]

So, are you convinced Ivins did it?

Weak case against Ivins=The Jews did it!!!! Amazing logic from MaGZ

The FBI's case is way stronger than your claim.

[leonAzul]

So, are you convinced Ivins did it?

The genetic evidence that the strains used in the attacks came from Ivins' lab is overwhelming. If he didn't do it himself, he was at least responsible for the safe keeping and distribution of the strains.

[geggy]

Check it...

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124124

[MaGZ]

Weak case against Ivins=The Jews did it!!!! Amazing logic from MaGZ

The FBI's case is way stronger than your claim.

The Israelis had the means, motive and opportunity to launch the anthrax attacks. Ivins had nothing to do with it.

The logic is here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211195615/www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthrax-mystery-solved.htm

[MaGZ]

The genetic evidence that the strains used in the attacks came from Ivins' lab is overwhelming. If he didn't do it himself, he was at least responsible for the safe keeping and distribution of the strains.

Seeking Details, Lawmakers Cite Anthrax Doubts

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/washington/07anthrax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Laboratory records obtained by The New York Times show that the anthrax supply labeled RMR-1029, which the F.B.I. linked to the attacks, was stored in 1997 not in Dr. Ivins’s laboratory, in Building 1425, but in the adjacent Building 1412. Former colleagues said that its storage in both buildings at different times from 1997 to 2001 might mean that the bureau’s estimate of 100 people with physical access to it was two or three times too low.



This particular strain of anthrax could have been stolen by Israeli agents. It was easy to get the stuff out of Fort Detrick.

Anthrax Easy to Get Out of Lab
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/hc-ant-2,0,4835223.story