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1337m4n
18th September 2008, 11:02 PM
Don't you just love how conspiracy theorists will rip on anyone else for being "slaves" and "shills" and "sheeple" and being in general subservient to The ManTM...while at the same time you get the impression that all they ever do is post on Internet forums?

Throughout history, people who felt that they were being oppressed took real action. Martin Luther King took real action. Gandhi took real action. Susan Anthony took real action. The founders of the United States itself took real action.

Idiots, who know nothing about economics or politics but pretend that they do, make up ideas of pure stupidity, like the NWO, Illuminati, Holocaust Denial, and thermite, without evidence. They have no evidence; it is completely made up. In some cases they even flat-out admit that they have no evidence. It is faith, not logic. And yet, these very same people cry "SHEEP!" when someone DARES call them on it. You are a sheep, because you refuse to believe in made-up crap without evidence.

And, what do they do about it? Aside from spamming forums and chatrooms with links to debunked Youtube "documentaries", absolutely nothing.

Now, let me clarify my position here. I would be fine with them doing absolutely nothing. It's understandable if you believe in a powerful NWO, you might be afraid of doing anything to fight back. Fear is natural and understandable. What bothers me, however, is the hypocrisy. I don't mind them doing absolutely nothing, what I mind is those same people accusing others of being "sheep" or "slaves" or whatever for not fighting the NWO. The same people, who do nothing but post on Internet all day long, calling people "sheep".

I believe this is due to a combination of two things.
--One, they hate The Man. They are rebellious emo-type kids, most of them not more than 16 years old, who have a disdain for all forms of authority and will look for any excuse to rebel.
--Two, they have no evidence for any of their ideas. NWO, Illuminati**, mind control, FEMA camps, mandatory RFID, moon hoax, Holocaust denial, thermite, holograms, controlled demolition--all of them completely made up. There is no evidence, and they even admit that they have no evidence. Most of the time, this admittance is subtle and probably subconscious: for instance, ask an NWO believer for his evidence, and you can bet your life savings that he will, instead of showing you evidence, tell you to "do your own research" because "the evidence is out there" and yell at you for not "opening your eyes". This is a subtle, subconscious way of saying "I have no evidence, but please ignore that". Sometimes, however, they will actually OPENLY admit that their ideas are completely evidence-free. The justification for this is generally some sort of convoluted "better-safe-than-sorry" argument, although they never explain how you're supposed to fight something that might not actually exist.
--And between those two factors, this bizarre behavior is born. These dark, evil conspiracies MUST exist, in order for the CTist's worldview to make sense and in order for the CTist to feel special and worth something. To paraphrase Voltaire: if the NWO didn't exist, it would be necessary (for CTists) to invent it. But at the same time, deep down, they know there is no evidence that any of these conspiracies exist. How can you fight something that doesn't exist? Answer: you can't. The result is that CTists spend all day on the Internet, in chatrooms, on forums, or on Youtube, while at the same time criticizing anyone who isn't a CTist for not doing anything to Fight The Man.


This is my argument. But I'll be the first to admit that my argument is weak. In fact, my argument is so weak, that those of you who are CTists reading this can dismantle it by answering me one simple question: So what are YOU doing to fight the NWO?

ETA: If you are going to answer with anything to the effect of "I am 'spreading awareness'", allow me to paraphrase a sarcastic line I heard on Lewis Black's Root of All Evil recently: "Oh, sure, spreading awareness. Everybody was aware that Hurricane Katrina was coming, and that made everything all better, didn't it?"






**Footnote: it's historical fact that there WAS an organization called the "Illuminati" at one point in history, but there is zero evidence to suggest that they still exist today.

Travis
19th September 2008, 12:43 AM
Hey, they gave us beer, X-boxes and porn. We're better off with the NWO calling the shots.

Hokulele
19th September 2008, 01:06 AM
Wait, they gave us beer?

I loooooove the NWO!



(Heh, with the drinking age in the U.S. set at 21, no wonder the truthers have issues with the government.)

TMiguel
19th September 2008, 01:53 AM
I have a bumper sticker saying "YOU ARE BEING WATCHED trough the rear view mirror"
Does that count as fighting the NWO?

Travis
19th September 2008, 02:10 AM
Wait, they gave us beer?

I loooooove the NWO!



(Heh, with the drinking age in the U.S. set at 21, no wonder the truthers have issues with the government.)

According to Blue Sargasso pretty much every consumer product we like was provided by the NWO. Oddly enough he thought that would encourage us to help him overthrow them.

Hokulele
19th September 2008, 02:13 AM
According to Blue Sargasso pretty much every consumer product we like was provided by the NWO. Oddly enough he thought that would encourage us to help him overthrow them.




Wait a minute, are we talking about beer, or Budweiser?

Travis
19th September 2008, 03:03 AM
Wait a minute, are we talking about beer, or Budweiser?



That's a silly question. Nobody considers Budweiser to be beer.

Trojan_Jockey
19th September 2008, 03:23 AM
Don't you just love how conspiracy theorists will rip on anyone else for being "slaves" and "shills" and "sheeple" and being in general subservient to The ManTM...while at the same time you get the impression that all they ever do is post on Internet forums?

Throughout history, people who felt that they were being oppressed took real action. Martin Luther King took real action. Gandhi took real action. Susan Anthony took real action. The founders of the United States itself took real action.

Idiots, who know nothing about economics or politics but pretend that they do, make up ideas of pure stupidity, like the NWO, Illuminati, Holocaust Denial, and thermite, without evidence. They have no evidence; it is completely made up. In some cases they even flat-out admit that they have no evidence. It is faith, not logic. And yet, these very same people cry "SHEEP!" when someone DARES call them on it. You are a sheep, because you refuse to believe in made-up crap without evidence.

And, what do they do about it? Aside from spamming forums and chatrooms with links to debunked Youtube "documentaries", absolutely nothing.

Now, let me clarify my position here. I would be fine with them doing absolutely nothing. It's understandable if you believe in a powerful NWO, you might be afraid of doing anything to fight back. Fear is natural and understandable. What bothers me, however, is the hypocrisy. I don't mind them doing absolutely nothing, what I mind is those same people accusing others of being "sheep" or "slaves" or whatever for not fighting the NWO. The same people, who do nothing but post on Internet all day long, calling people "sheep".

I believe this is due to a combination of two things.
--One, they hate The Man. They are rebellious emo-type kids, most of them not more than 16 years old, who have a disdain for all forms of authority and will look for any excuse to rebel.
--Two, they have no evidence for any of their ideas. NWO, Illuminati**, mind control, FEMA camps, mandatory RFID, moon hoax, Holocaust denial, thermite, holograms, controlled demolition--all of them completely made up. There is no evidence, and they even admit that they have no evidence. Most of the time, this admittance is subtle and probably subconscious: for instance, ask an NWO believer for his evidence, and you can bet your life savings that he will, instead of showing you evidence, tell you to "do your own research" because "the evidence is out there" and yell at you for not "opening your eyes". This is a subtle, subconscious way of saying "I have no evidence, but please ignore that". Sometimes, however, they will actually OPENLY admit that their ideas are completely evidence-free. The justification for this is generally some sort of convoluted "better-safe-than-sorry" argument, although they never explain how you're supposed to fight something that might not actually exist.
--And between those two factors, this bizarre behavior is born. These dark, evil conspiracies MUST exist, in order for the CTist's worldview to make sense and in order for the CTist to feel special and worth something. To paraphrase Voltaire: if the NWO didn't exist, it would be necessary (for CTists) to invent it. But at the same time, deep down, they know there is no evidence that any of these conspiracies exist. How can you fight something that doesn't exist? Answer: you can't. The result is that CTists spend all day on the Internet, in chatrooms, on forums, or on Youtube, while at the same time criticizing anyone who isn't a CTist for not doing anything to Fight The Man.


This is my argument. But I'll be the first to admit that my argument is weak. In fact, my argument is so weak, that those of you who are CTists reading this can dismantle it by answering me one simple question: So what are YOU doing to fight the NWO?

ETA: If you are going to answer with anything to the effect of "I am 'spreading awareness'", allow me to paraphrase a sarcastic line I heard on Lewis Black's Root of All Evil recently: "Oh, sure, spreading awareness. Everybody was aware that Hurricane Katrina was coming, and that made everything all better, didn't it?"






**Footnote: it's historical fact that there WAS an organization called the "Illuminati" at one point in history, but there is zero evidence to suggest that they still exist today.

They don't want to do anything about the NWO and they never will. The whole point of being a conspiracy theorist is to make out that you aren't a good kid who does what mummy and daddy tells him to do. You are a rebel, an outsider, a free thinker, you are untameable. You are far more intelligent than everyone else because you aren't brainwashed. Scientists, engineers, economists, historians may have qualifications, but they belong to the establishment and are therefore brainwashed. Being a CT is simply a personal statement, by which you declare your amazing wisdom, despite your poor grades in school.

I don't think kids who fail at maths, English and science are going to be too good at organising a revolution. The examples you gave were of very smart individuals, with solid aims and goals. The goal of a conspiracy theorist is to prove he isn't a gullible fool, and of course he thinks he has achieved that. No need for any action.

leonAzul
19th September 2008, 10:01 AM
So what are YOU doing to fight the NWO?

Minding my own business.

"Ain't no business
Like my my business;
And I'm so glad I got my own…"

Klimax
20th September 2008, 12:23 AM
That's a silly question. Nobody considers Budweiser to be beer.

Wait a minute...Which one?Czech or American? [answer ends derail] :)

leonAzul
20th September 2008, 12:47 AM
Wait a minute...Which one?Czech or American? [answer ends derail] :)

[PATENTLY OT\]
The king of beers is only superseded by the beer of kings. Compared to the rest of Czech beers, Budweiser is a colossal fail, IMHO--YMMV.

FTR, I prefer Zipfer.

Cl1mh4224rd
20th September 2008, 10:55 AM
And, what do they do about it? Aside from spamming forums and chatrooms with links to debunked Youtube "documentaries", absolutely nothing.


To be fair, some of them actually go outside wearing trendy black t-shirts, carry signs, and chant in unison.

Of course, to make this seem like some kind of epic struggle against The Man™, they have to manufacture a situation in which such activities are very, very dangerous to partake in. Hence the truther fantasy that the U.S. is fascist, a police state, or whatever...

Remember: the more evil and powerful your opponent, the less you actually have to do to feel that sense of danger.

GreyICE
20th September 2008, 11:02 AM
I could tell you. But then they'd know.

*looks over his sholder*

*runs away*

TjW
20th September 2008, 12:16 PM
I've been doing my part to stop the NWO.

I came up with a Clever Plan.

After the Big Boss got his new luxury sedan, I, at great risk, snuck in and added a few liters of gasoline to the tank nearly every night . He was very pleased with his choice in cars, and the mileage it got.

Then, a few months ago, I put my Clever Plan into action. I stopped.

Since then, I have lurked as mechanic after mechanic has tried and failed to "repair" it back to it's previous wondrous MPG. Each has, of course, been liquidated for failure.

Soon, there will be no suspicious black sedans to be seen in neighborhoods, no black helicopters performing suspicious low-altitude maneuvers. There will be no mechanics to maintain them.

Biscuit
20th September 2008, 12:29 PM
Funny you should ask. I was just reading this thread.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392244/pg1


It appears that in order to stop the NWO we need MORE WEBSITES!!! and love.

Also if you stop watching movies you will really get 'em.

I swear that if I could only look at one website for the rest of my life it would be abovetopsecret.com. Sorry JREF, you are a very close second, but the humor level at ATS is off the charts.

TinfoilCat
20th September 2008, 04:22 PM
What am I doing?
I am doing what all of America's greatest patriots are doing.
Squandering all my money on Alex Jone's crap :D

Inertia
20th September 2008, 07:19 PM
Its nooone of your business. Jezz...talk about being a stalker. :rolleyes:

Slayhamlet
20th September 2008, 08:40 PM
Its nooone of your business. Jezz...talk about being a stalker. :rolleyes:

No need to stalk you; we already know you aren't doing anything.

Travis
20th September 2008, 09:59 PM
I've been doing my part to stop the NWO.

I came up with a Clever Plan.

After the Big Boss got his new luxury sedan, I, at great risk, snuck in and added a few liters of gasoline to the tank nearly every night . He was very pleased with his choice in cars, and the mileage it got.

Then, a few months ago, I put my Clever Plan into action. I stopped.

Since then, I have lurked as mechanic after mechanic has tried and failed to "repair" it back to it's previous wondrous MPG. Each has, of course, been liquidated for failure.

Soon, there will be no suspicious black sedans to be seen in neighborhoods, no black helicopters performing suspicious low-altitude maneuvers. There will be no mechanics to maintain them.

That is diabolical.

Perhaps we should gradually introduce strawberry flavoring to the city water supply and then suddenly remove it one day.

Hokulele
20th September 2008, 11:46 PM
That is diabolical.

Perhaps we should gradually introduce strawberry flavoring to the city water supply and then suddenly remove it one day.


Just so long as you do not add it to my beer.

Travis
21st September 2008, 04:20 AM
Just so long as you do not add it to my beer.

Actually I know some micro-breweries that make some pretty good beer with strawberry flavoring. Pretty pricey though.