Jim Callahan's MDC claim

[William Smith]

In the train wreck that is The Professor's thread, Jim Callahan said the following:

Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.

I see some problems with Dave's situation and will address those shortly.

Best Wishes,

Jim

Jeff Wagg responded:

All you have to do is apply.

Will you propose a claim, Jim Callahan? Do you have a test protocol in mind, perhaps along the lines of those "tests [you] have done for the past couple years"?

A must read. (http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-application.html)

Since one passage usually causes misunderstandings or seems to be overread, I quote from the link:

"1. This is the primary and most important of these rules: Applicant must state clearly in advance, and applicant and JREF will agree upon, what powers and/or abilities will be demonstrated, the limits of the proposed demonstration (so far as time, location and other variables are concerned) and what will constitute both a positive and a negative result."

[yairhol]

For starters I would want to hear of a paranormal claim only. No protocol needed and no time schedule either.
This should be interesting although I fear that this will end up the same way as TP's non-claim non-protocol etc.

[chran]

Yes Callahan, please apply!

But please try to state what you can do within the first, like, 5 pages of this thread :)

[Azrael 5]

Yes Callahan, please apply!

But please try to state what you can do within the first, like, 5 pages of this thread :)

Be reasonable chran,come on give the guy a break.He's a busy man,Youtube videos to make,false allegations to throw about.How can he do it within 5 pages? It will take him that long to shut up whining about Jeff's comment! ;)

[chillzero]

Azrael, (everyone, really)
Please be sure to remember that this section is a showcase for the MDC. Please keep it as civil as absolutely possible, and on topic. Being sarcastic and personal does not help.

Perhaps you could review the following thread (posts 5 and 6 in particular) to understand my comment.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124538
The mods should not need to be heavily involved in these threads.

Any comments on that thread should be posted there, but in this thread, please let's keep it civil, and all direct our attention to assisting claims in moving forward, instead of anything negative.
Thank you.

[chran]

nvm

[Azrael 5]

Ok Chilli I'll be good. ;)

[Hatchet]

All you have to do is apply.


Jeff you said you could test my claim now you run and hide?
....
If you were posting true please do tell us all how it is you would test me.
....
However I am sure many are wondering why you made the comment and now that you have my attention you run.
Huh? What the hell are you on about Jim?

Perhaps I've woken up in some strange parallel universe this morning? But wouldn't running and hiding involve Jeff telling you that you can't take the challenge rather than inviting you to apply for it?

You do know that to be tested, you actually have to apply for the challenge and tell the JREF what your paranormal ability is right? How can you expect anyone to tell you how you would be tested if you have not made a claim? How can you expect any attention at all from the JREF if you do not become an actual applicant?

So how about applying? All it will cost you is a few stamps and a few hours of your time. Then you can go and accuse the JREF of running and hiding if they refuse to test you.

Cheers.

[Kuko 4000]

Jim Callahan, if you have a paranormal claim, you need to start from here:


A must read. (http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-application.html)

Since one passage usually causes misunderstandings or seems to be overread, I quote from the link:

"1. This is the primary and most important of these rules: Applicant must state clearly in advance, and applicant and JREF will agree upon, what powers and/or abilities will be demonstrated, the limits of the proposed demonstration (so far as time, location and other variables are concerned) and what will constitute both a positive and a negative result."


Jim, PLEASE START FROM THIS.

[The Professor]

Azrael, (everyone, really)
Please be sure to remember that this section is a showcase for the MDC. Please keep it as civil as absolutely possible, and on topic. Being sarcastic and personal does not help.

Perhaps you could review the following thread (posts 5 and 6 in particular) to understand my comment.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124538
The mods should not need to be heavily involved in these threads.

Any comments on that thread should be posted there, but in this thread, please let's keep it civil, and all direct our attention to assisting claims in moving forward, instead of anything negative.
Thank you.

Thanks for pointing out that the JREF Forum members have NOT beens CIVIL in my case!!!!!!!

Makes it obvious now doesn't it?

Thanks SOOO MUCH :)
:cool::cool:

[fromdownunder]

As I understand it, one of the "tricks" used by magicians is misdirection - ensuring that the audience is not focusing on the area where the sleight of hand (or whatever the particular trick is) will be carefully scrutinised by the observer.

It appears that The Professor, who is clearly flailing, and has got a few misdirection techniques of his own, as shown by his refusal (or inability) to actually explain what he can do, has called in the cavalry as backup, and Jim Callahan, possibly the back up, has added a further bit of misdirection of his own.

This takes pressure off TP, by using diversion tactics and shifting the focus.

There is also a basic fundamentalist ploy, to draw everybody away from your own inability to support your basic premise with facts, and shift the burden of proof to the other side. Jim Callahan appears to be very well versed in this form of diversion, because I have never before in my life seen anybody specifically invited to go for a $1,000,000 prize turn around and suggest that the person who gave this invitation is "running away".

So, JC (since I used the fundamentalist analogy, how appropriate) here is your chance. Show Mr Randi up, and show everybody what you have got, tell us what you can do, and apply for the challenge.

Give the world evidence of a supernatural event.

Norm

[chillzero]

Thanks for pointing out that the JREF Forum members have NOT beens CIVIL in my case!!!!!!!

Makes it obvious now doesn't it?

Thanks SOOO MUCH :)
:cool::cool:


Please concentrate on defining your claim and negotiating your protocol in the appropriate thread.

Thanks so much.

[Marcus]

Thanks for pointing out that the JREF Forum members have NOT beens CIVIL in my case!!!!!!!

Makes it obvious now doesn't it?

Thanks SOOO MUCH :)
:cool::cool:

We were quite civil ar first, but then you made it clear that you had no interest in cooperating, would not answer even the simplest of questions, and would not absorb any information.

Jim is a different person, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Jim, if you are sincere, unlike Prof, I think you will find the people here are quite friendly and helpful.

[Jeff Wagg]

I'll state this again for this thread.

If Jim Callahan can perform as he did on Phenomenon, under proper observing conditions, he would win the million.

As for his claim, he claims to be in communication with an entity by the name of Raymond Hill, who can see inside sealed objects. At least that's my take on what I saw on Phenomenon. I'm hoping Jim will clarify further, or correct me if I'm wrong.

But first, he must apply.

[William Smith]

I just PMed Jim Callahan this:


Hi Jim Callahan,



I am forwarding you this post just in case you missed it. According to the display at the bottom of each subforum, you have been online here during this evening (GMT+1) at least five seperate times.

Perhaps you will find the time to post in the thread opened for you?

Thank you for your continued interest.



GzuzKryzt



The post I referred to was Jeff Wagg's last post in this thread.

[Ron_Tomkins]

I think this and other threads are proof that us skeptics are actually almost impatient to see people being tested on paranormal claims.

I mean, how many times do we have to repeat the same thing?: Sir, please do apply. We want to see what you can show us.

[Jim Callahan]

I just PMed Jim Callahan this:


Hi Jim Callahan,



I am forwarding you this post just in case you missed it. According to the display at the bottom of each subforum, you have been online here during this evening (GMT+1) at least five seperate times.

Perhaps you will find the time to post in the thread opened for you?

Thank you for your continued interest.



GzuzKryzt



The post I referred to was Jeff Wagg's last post in this thread.


Yes I am pretty busy right now and I check this forum and the Magic Cafe when talking on the phone or waiting for video renders.

As those who frequent the Cafe can attest I have posted very little there either.

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.

Currently I am working on a rather complicate presentation for October 31st that has in part something to do with the test Jeff mentions.

But as I said I just cannot commit the time to posting as I think would be appropriate at this time.

Thanks for understanding.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[Azrael 5]

Yes I am pretty busy right now and I check this forum and the Magic Cafe when talking on the phone or waiting for video renders.

As those who frequent the Cafe can attest I have posted very little there either.

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.

Currently I am working on a rather complicate presentation for October 31st that has in part something to do with the test Jeff mentions.

But as I said I just cannot commit the time to posting as I think would be appropriate at this time.

Thanks for understanding.

Best Wishes,

Jim

Translated in to normal speak means:"Sorry I spoke out of turn earlier to Mr Wagg,regards him running away from me I cannot back this up,nor can I take the MDC challenge as I am only a magician.Aplogies" ;)

No discussion needed just fill in a form and send it off.Whilst on the phone or waiting for videos to render.

[William Smith]

Yes I am pretty busy right now and I check this forum and the Magic Cafe when talking on the phone or waiting for video renders.

As those who frequent the Cafe can attest I have posted very little there either.

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.

Currently I am working on a rather complicate presentation for October 31st that has in part something to do with the test Jeff mentions.

But as I said I just cannot commit the time to posting as I think would be appropriate at this time.

Thanks for understanding.

Best Wishes,

Jim

Only a nitpicking fella would state that you could have at least outlined your possible claim in the two minutes you took to type your post.

The forum community will have to wait until you can dedicate your time to the rather ungrateful task of getting a million dollars, right?

[Drudgewire]

Yes I am pretty busy right now and I check this forum and the Magic Cafe when talking on the phone or waiting for video renders.

As those who frequent the Cafe can attest I have posted very little there either.

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.

Currently I am working on a rather complicate presentation for October 31st that has in part something to do with the test Jeff mentions.

But as I said I just cannot commit the time to posting as I think would be appropriate at this time.

Thanks for understanding.


Yeah, I understand how it's a time issue and all, since If you can describe your claim in a hundred words or less, it would've taken at least 8 less of them than the response above. :)


Only a nitpicking fella would state that you could have at least outlined your possible claim in the two minutes you took to type your post.

What are you trying to say? http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/redface.gif

[William Smith]

Jim Callahan, since according to the display you are still online in this subforum, will you properly submit a claim for the MDC?

You should be able to fit in a no or yes answer between "talking on the phone or waiting for video renders", shouldn't you?



P.S.: To whom it may concern, it is considered bad netiquette to edit a post without acknowledging it.

[Azrael 5]

Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.
*snip* for off topic


Bolding mine.
Well? Waiting Jim.

said you could test my claim now you run and hide?
If you were just blowing smoke up Daves backside say so.
I understand you have to protect the cash and will do anything to protect it and what you think is right.

If you were posting true please do tell us all how it is you would test me.

Jeff I would have not even entered into this but you brought me up and some sort of claim so
please be honest and offer up how you would test me.

Personally I think you are no more honest intellectually Randi.

But I am sure you find me a bit less than perfect yourself.

However I am sure many are wondering why you made the comment and now that you have my attention you run.

Sorry if this might read pointed for it is not.
I just think people should be honest in the things they post.

I'll go back to my Gin now.

Best Wishes,
You seemed awfully keen a few hours ago;had plenty of time then!
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=121157&page=17

[fromdownunder]

So I assume from Mr Callahan's response that he has no intention of making a claim at this time. Might as well close this thread, and concentrate on TP's non-application until Mr Callahan decides to make an application.

Norm

[RoboTimbo]

So I assume from Mr Callahan's response that he has no intention of making a claim at this time. Might as well close this thread, and concentrate on TP's non-application until Mr Callahan decides to make an application.

Norm

Until Mr Callahan decides to make a non-application. I just hope he doesn't include some arbitrary date for his non-claim.

[Ron_Tomkins]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm
Here's a simple question for you, Jim:
What is a "paranormalist"?

Sorry man I am working my way through the other post first.

The guy went to allot of trouble to offer it and I feel that I should take care of it first.

Thanks,

Jim


Originally Posted by GzuzKryzt
I just PMed Jim Callahan this:


Hi Jim Callahan,



I am forwarding you this post just in case you missed it. According to the display at the bottom of each subforum, you have been online here during this evening (GMT+1) at least five seperate times.

Perhaps you will find the time to post in the thread opened for you?

Thank you for your continued interest.



GzuzKryzt



The post I referred to was Jeff Wagg's last post in this thread.

Yes I am pretty busy right now and I check this forum and the Magic Cafe when talking on the phone or waiting for video renders.

As those who frequent the Cafe can attest I have posted very little there either.

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.

Currently I am working on a rather complicate presentation for October 31st that has in part something to do with the test Jeff mentions.

But as I said I just cannot commit the time to posting as I think would be appropriate at this time.

Thanks for understanding.

Best Wishes,

Jim



... ummm.....


Do I really have to say it?

[Jim Callahan]

Jim Callahan, since according to the display you are still online in this subforum, will you properly submit a claim for the MDC?

You should be able to fit in a no or yes answer between "talking on the phone or waiting for video renders", shouldn't you?



P.S.: To whom it may concern, it is considered bad netiquette to edit a post without acknowledging it.

No, and just so you do know I leave both forums up on my monitor.

The reason for my Challenge is quite good.

Thanks for taking such an interst in what I am looking at and my wife is looking at.

Do you do anything with your life is so what is it?
Only asking becouse so few of you guys fill out your profile info.
Y'all know who I am and I find it strange those looking for truth and information are so timid in saying who and what they are.

-Jim


PS. No spell check used becouse I could care less and to quote Mark Twain. "It is a small mind indead that can think of only one way to spell a word"
Love that quote just for the kiss my backside edge to it.

[xinit]

Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." and "A lie can make it half way around the world before the truth has time to put its boots on."

[Drudgewire]

"Honest men are few when it comes to themselves." -Twain

[Hatchet]

I think it would be rude to start into a discussion that I cannot keep up with as a poster.
So no apology will be forthcoming to Jeff then?

Can JREF now shout loud insults about you running away and hiding from the Million Dollar Challenge?

Cheers.

[chillzero]

Jim,
Thanks for acknowledging this thread.

I would like to point out (to everyone) that threads in this forum section do not tend to drop off the front page very fast at all. Therefore, I expect that the thread will be easily found once Mr Callahan is ready to return, in his own time.

I don't see anything useful or productive about badgering him to respond immediately every minute he's on this forum. Please, let's not waste bandwidth with impatience, etc. The thread is here, and either Mr Callahan will post to discuss his claim if and when he's ready, or he will not.

Let's all just step back a bit. I would hate to see this section become too intimidating for potential applicants to consider joining us. You'd do yourselves a great disservice in that case. After all .... at some point, should someone ever win the MDC, you will all be part of that history making moment. Why not make your advice and comments something to be proud of in that event?

[Jim Callahan]

I'll state this again for this thread.

If Jim Callahan can perform as he did on Phenomenon, under proper observing conditions, he would win the million.

As for his claim, he claims to be in communication with an entity by the name of Raymond Hill, who can see inside sealed objects. At least that's my take on what I saw on Phenomenon. I'm hoping Jim will clarify further, or correct me if I'm wrong.

But first, he must apply.

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-Jim

[Azrael 5]

PS. No spell check used becouse I could care less and to quote Mark Twain. "It is a small mind indead that can think of only one way to spell a word"
Love that quote just for the kiss my backside edge to it.

If you are going to try look smart do it right.
"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word. ..."

Your backside not getting quite the attention on that one then.

[Czarcasm]

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-JimThank you for establishing that when you talk about a "Challenge" being negotiated with JREF, you are referring only to the Challenge you created, not the MDC.

If this has nothing to do with the MDC, imho it should be moved.

[EHocking]

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-JimHaving read that page your ability as you claim it would constitute "paranormal" under the MDC rules (as confirmed by Jeff Wragg).

Similarly the protocol required to demonstrate it would be so simple to produce that even I could do it. One thing I would add for your corner would be to have an independent observer at the location where the sealed vessel (a safe?) is. I would have them observe the object in situ and have them sign a document describing it and seal that in with the object.

That way you can be sure that there has not been any sleight of hand on JREF's part when the object is revealed at the end of your demonstration.

Oh, and I guess it's also a protection for JREF against accusations that they changed the object out if you were to fail.

Just an extra safeguard for your protocol.

[RoboTimbo]

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-Jim

Are we allowed to confirm your Goldman Sachs account with $1 million in it and see the legally binding contract describing your challenge?

[Hatchet]

Raymond Hill is an "entity" who Jim Callahan claims can communicate with him. It's a supernatural claim. One that could easily be tested, in fact, should Jim ever decide to apply.

Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.
All you have to do is apply.
Jeff you said you could test my claim now you run and hide?
My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.



Care to explain Jim :confused:

[CynicalSkeptic]

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-Jim

Care to explain Jim :confused:

http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm

[chillzero]

hmmm...

Jim, if you are not intending to take Randi's Million Dollar Challenge, can you please clarify that here please? It seemed from the thread where this discussion originated (partially quoted above) that you intended to take up the offer of being tested for the MDC. If that's not your intent, this thread belongs in a different forum section.
Thanks.

[Jim Callahan]

hmmm...

Jim, if you are not intending to take Randi's Million Dollar Challenge, can you please clarify that here please? It seemed from the thread where this discussion originated (partially quoted above) that you intended to take up the offer of being tested for the MDC. If that's not your intent, this thread belongs in a different forum section.
Thanks.


I agree with you Chillzero, Jeff had brought it up and I wanted to know what he was thinking.
(Was surprised it became a separate thread.)

Now I have found out that he watched a performance done as 'entertainment' on a television show and based his idea for testing me upon that.

I find that somewhat unusual but stranger things have happened.

Once again I agree the thread should be moved.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[chillzero]

Can I be clear here first... you are not placing a claim on the Million Dollar Challenge?

Thanks.

[Azrael 5]

I agree with you Chillzero, Jeff had brought it up and I wanted to know what he was thinking.
(Was surprised it became a separate thread.)

Now I have found out that he watched a performance done as 'entertainment' on a television show and based his idea for testing me upon that.

I find that somewhat unusual but stranger things have happened.

Once again I agree the thread should be moved.

Best Wishes,

Jim

So why say these things? Why wait until now to state this? You were asked before and never mentioned this.You said.
Ok you have my attention Jeff.
Please offer up the test and I will consider it.

This was a thread I had decided to stay out of but your comment poked at my curiosity and now I am in.

We have been doing tests for the past couple of years and would welcome your input on this.
*snip* for off topic

And alsosaid you could test my claim now you run and hide?
If you were just blowing smoke up Daves backside say so.
I understand you have to protect the cash and will do anything to protect it and what you think is right.

If you were posting true please do tell us all how it is you would test me.

Jeff I would have not even entered into this but you brought me up and some sort of claim so
please be honest and offer up how you would test me.

Personally I think you are no more honest intellectually Randi.

But I am sure you find me a bit less than perfect yourself.

However I am sure many are wondering why you made the comment and now that you have my attention you run.

Sorry if this might read pointed for it is not.
I just think people should be honest in the things they post

Again bolding mine.
You were awfully keen to discuss a test then,now YOU run and hide.

[Jeff Wagg]

My challenge is the same one that is on my website to Randi.
Raymond Hill would have nothing to do with it.

-Jim

Our challenge is the same as it has been for 40 years. Apply, be tested, win the money.

[Jim Callahan]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

[chillzero]

Thread moved as there will be no claim. It can now be used to discuss Jim Callahan's claim on his site:

http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm

Keep it civil, on topic, etc...
Thanks.

[Ron_Tomkins]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

There you go. Now was that so hard?


Next!

[Azrael 5]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

There we have it,I trust you will put this statement on your next YouTube video? ALong with the name of the so called person who was due to be tested at DragonCon(I gather that's next) :)

[xinit]

There you go. Now was that so hard?

Next!

Now we need to upload a video to YouTube that says "Jim Callahan was presented with an application for the MDC and he RAN AWAY! What does Jim have to hide?"

[Azrael 5]

Did the secret service ever get back to you Jim? Heard no reports of Randi being arrested so was just wondering.

[Biscuit]

Jim,

Wouldn't your challenge be even easier if you did this instead. You and the JREF pick 20 different common images. An Airplane, a balloon, a horse, a race car, ect. Seal these is 20 different envelopes labeled 1 - 20, obviously you will not be able to watch this part. Then have a random number generator pick 10. You will write down the number and what the image is. After ten have been picked we open the envelopes. Someone here will have to do the odds but if you are as good as you claim you should get all 10 right.

This saves us the need for a web cam, a seperate location, lots of time, and removes any ambiguity to your guesses.

What do you think?

[chillzero]

Biscuit, he's not taking the challenge.

[Biscuit]

I know he wont take the challenge. I was just curious about his own challenge and seeing if he would be willing to modify that in the manor I described or if there is something particular about the way he wants to do it.

[chillzero]

ah, ok - sorry :)
I suspect flexibility may not be the keyword here, though. ;)

[buzz lightyear]

Biscuit, he's not taking the challenge.


But he is making a lot of free publicity out of Randi.

He is doing what a good illusionist does,............ creates an illusion.

Randi creates an illusion with the MDC, makes a good living.
Jim Callahan creates an illusion with Randi and the MDC, makes a good living.

Seems logical enough to me.

Go Jim!

[Big Les]

Go Jim!

I quite agree.

[William Smith]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Azrael 5]

But he is making a lot of free publicity out of Randi.

He is doing what a good illusionist does,............ creates an illusion.

Randi creates an illusion with the MDC, makes a good living.
Jim Callahan creates an illusion with Randi and the MDC, makes a good living.

Seems logical enough to me.

Go Jim!


Seems to me all Jim does is veer on libel with Randi at any given opportunity,attempt to ridicule him and generally put him down.
Go Jim...? :rolleyes:

[VulcanWay]

Buzz has just always had an issue with the MDC and makes even less sense than Callahan when trying to explain why (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=72616).

[Drudgewire]

Go Jim!


You left out a couple of words in the middle buzz. :p

[Jim Callahan]

Did the secret service ever get back to you Jim? Heard no reports of Randi being arrested so was just wondering.

Please let us all know what you are going on about.
Does it have a thing to do with this thread.

Thanks,

Jim

[Gravy]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

JimJim, you have repeatedly been told that the only way to be tested by the JREF is to apply and proceed according to their rules. Here you once again affirm that you won't be doing that.

I ask you again: when will you be removing this false statement from your website?

http://nyctours.googlepages.com/callahanMDC.jpg

[Jim Callahan]

I think you are wrong.
Unless you can tell us what will happen in the furure.

-JIM

[RoboTimbo]

Are we allowed to confirm your Goldman Sachs account with $1 million in it and see the legally binding contract describing your challenge?

If you aren't willing to do these things, I think we'll stick with the LEGITIMATE $1 million challenge, thanks.

[Moochie]

I think you are wrong.
Unless you can tell us what will happen in the furure.

-JIM

My sarcasm and skepticism aside, I think the test outlined at http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm by Jim Callahan is quite doable. Isn't there some way he and the JREF can work something out?

At the aforementioned site, Jim says he will "guess" what is in Mr. Randi's locked box in the safe. If he correctly "guesses," he wins the million. If not, he will pay the JREF $5000. Seems simple and direct, and if nothing else will probably result in much publicity for both parties and probably a paycheck for JC, since the event is to take place in an entertainment venue -- which doesn't rule out television.


M.

[buzz lightyear]

Seems to me all Jim does is veer on libel with Randi at any given opportunity,attempt to ridicule him and generally put him down.


That is exactly it Azarel, its the old "snake charmer" trick.

Have you ever seen a cobra that is not riled up? They look like any other snake, just a piece of pipe with a head on it, nothing threatening.

But when he coils back and flattens his head,......... holy cow!
I have seen grown men flee when a 6" brown snake has done this while they were teasing it.

So in his "flaccid" state, Randi looks like someones grandpa. But do as Jim is doing, and "presto" you have a show that the punters will pay to watch.

And it is a good show too.

The stumpy old weather beaten trickster turned skeptic, verses the young, good looking, tall upstart.

It doesnt get any better than this.

Go Jim.:D

[Reno]

Go Jim.:D


buzz off.

[jimtron]

Jim Callahan said: I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.
The graphic from Jim's site, posted above says: $1,000,000.00: That is what I intend to make as a result of testing with James Randi and his JREF organization
Winning the MDC requires applying. You have stated that you will not be sending in an application. Doesn't add up.

eta: I'm reiterating the point already made by Gravy.

[Gravy]

My sarcasm and skepticism aside, I think the test outlined at http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm by Jim Callahan is quite doable. Isn't there some way he and the JREF can work something out?Of course. He can apply, state his claim, and present his protocol for that test. But he refuses to do so. Is there some reason that Jim Callahan should be given different treatment than every other applicant?

[Gravy]

I think you are wrong.
Unless you can tell us what will happen in the furure.

-JIMOf course I can, and I'll put money on it. $1,000 says that if you don't apply for the MDC, you don't get tested for the $1 million. Remember, time is running out. Do I have your agreement to this bet, Jim?

[Gr8wight]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

Nobody here is even remotely surprised.

[Azrael 5]

Please let us all know what you are going on about.
Does it have a thing to do with this thread.

Thanks,

Jim

This is in general skepticicsm now Im sure the MODs would have said had it been disallowed.

Had a memory loss recentley have you? You know full well what Im referring to.For the sake of the rmembers who may have missed the little gem:you were enquiring to the secret services re: counterfeiting/Randi.:rolleyes:

[Azrael 5]

*snip*

So in his "flaccid" state, Randi looks like someones grandpa. But do as Jim is doing, and "presto" you have a show that the punters will pay to watch.

And it is a good show too.

The stumpy old weather beaten trickster turned skeptic, verses the young, good looking, tall upstart.

It doesnt get any better than this.

Go Jim.:D

The "young good looking" coward who throws stones at windows from a distance and then runs away when chased by occupier,is a more accurate analogy.We have a saying in my town "all mouth and no action" thats Jim alright.

[chillzero]

Had a memory loss recentley have you? You know full well what Im referring to.For the sake of the rmembers who may have missed the little gem:you were enquiring to the secret services re: counterfeiting/Randi.:rolleyes:

I believe that's under discussion already in a thread about a video.

This thread - discussion of Jim's challenge to Randi, wrt the secret number - as per posts by Gravy, CyncialSkeptic and Jim Callahan himself.

[William Smith]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

http://www.jimclass.com/Challange.htm

From the link: "I am willing to pay to be tested. I will outline the test conditions and reasons for such conditions And I will make a million dollars.[...]"

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

Monty Python would be proud.



I am leaving aside your obvious and what I assume to be deliberate misunderstandings about the nature of the controlled tests necessary to pass the MDC.

[yairhol]

Jim,
Why do you bother with Randi's challenge so much?
If you do have paranormal powers why not turn to scientists and every t.v. station and newspaper in the world and prove to THEM that you have these powers.
If you possess these powers then you will surely succeed with your demonstrations and easily become the wealthiest man alive.
What's Randi's $1M compared to that?

[yairhol]

Jim, another question. A little more personal but I'm curious.
What is your main source of income? Are you a magician?
Where do you perform?

Thanks.

[Kuko 4000]

Jim Callahan, I can not write nice words about the way you've acted in this forum.

I hope you answer the points raised by Gravy and GzuzKrytz honestly and clearly. In real life, deliberate dodging is for losers.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Azrael, (everyone, really)
Please be sure to remember that this section is a showcase for the MDC. Please keep it as civil as absolutely possible, and on topic. Being sarcastic and personal does not help.

Perhaps you could review the following thread (posts 5 and 6 in particular) to understand my comment.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124538
The mods should not need to be heavily involved in these threads.

Any comments on that thread should be posted there, but in this thread, please let's keep it civil, and all direct our attention to assisting claims in moving forward, instead of anything negative.
Thank you.

I remain unconvinced about my posts, but if their BorBing and my complaint question thread helps elucidate what the tone and tenor of MDC threads should be I'm cool with it.

[Azrael 5]

I've yet to read of anyone who has seen Jim's magic act so i can't say if he makes a living at it.
He does do a trick where a dvd/tape has something recorded on it when it was previosuly checked.
Hmm.. ..coincidence?

[Locknar]

Jim,
Why do you bother with Randi's challenge so much?
I suspect because it adds to his PR/hype. There are lots of folks that claim "paranormal" ability...to stand out in that crowd you need a gimick. Jim's apparently is to just flap around (figuratively speaking), creating a lot of hype about Randi/JREF/MDC to gain some preceived form of credibility.


If you do have paranormal powers why not turn to scientists and every t.v. station and newspaper in the world and prove to THEM that you have these powers.
He will not undergo scientific/credible testing because he has no "paranormal" ability, and testing such as this would simply expose him as a fraud.


If you possess these powers then you will surely succeed with your demonstrations and easily become the wealthiest man alive.
What's Randi's $1M compared to that?Not gonna happen; he'll continue to make a living (as long as he can anyway) playing the typical "shell game" that this ilk does; ie. make outlandish claims about having special powers, but never providing any credible proof...just smoke and mirrors.

[William Smith]

Jim Callahan, I can not write nice words about the way you've acted in this forum.

I hope you answer the points raised by Gravy and GzuzKrytz honestly and clearly. In real life, deliberate dodging is for losers.

I have made my point. No need for Jim Callahan to respond to anything I have said.

His actions say enough, right?

[Moochie]

Seems to me all Jim does is veer on libel with Randi at any given opportunity,attempt to ridicule him and generally put him down.
Go Jim...? :rolleyes:

There's nothing illusory about the MDC, either. If Jim claims a paranormal ability, then he should prove it and claim the million. As things currently stand, the man has zero credibility.


M.

[Moochie]

Of course. He can apply, state his claim, and present his protocol for that test. But he refuses to do so. Is there some reason that Jim Callahan should be given different treatment than every other applicant?


Absolutely not. Instead, Jim should explain why, on the one hand, he goes to the trouble of writing up a doable protocol at his site, and on the other hand coming here and telling everyone that he won't apply for the MDC. Makes absolutely no sense except in one way: he can't do it because he has no ability and his entire schtick is an ill-conceived attempt to garner some publicity for a stalled "career."


M.

[Gravy]

See my website, "My Jim Callahan $1,000 Challenge (http://nyctours.googlepages.com/gravy%27sjimcallahan%241000challenge)"

http://nyctours.googlepages.com/mycallahanchallenge.jpg/mycallahanchallenge-full.jpg

[Jim Callahan]

I know he wont take the challenge. I was just curious about his own challenge and seeing if he would be willing to modify that in the manor I described or if there is something particular about the way he wants to do it.

I think your suggestions are quite good and would allow for the changes in my challenge.

In fact I will add your suggestions to the web page as soon as some other work is finished..

Thanks,

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

Having read that page your ability as you claim it would constitute "paranormal" under the MDC rules (as confirmed by Jeff Wragg).

Similarly the protocol required to demonstrate it would be so simple to produce that even I could do it. One thing I would add for your corner would be to have an independent observer at the location where the sealed vessel (a safe?) is. I would have them observe the object in situ and have them sign a document describing it and seal that in with the object.

That way you can be sure that there has not been any sleight of hand on JREF's part when the object is revealed at the end of your demonstration.

Oh, and I guess it's also a protection for JREF against accusations that they changed the object out if you were to fail.

Just an extra safeguard for your protocol.

This is an great idea also.

Thanks,

Jim

[EHocking]

This is an great idea also.

Thanks,

JimSo. You have a workable protocol and a paranormal claim.

Why won't you apply for the MDC?
You didn't give a reason previously (unless I overlooked it on another thread?)

[RoboTimbo]

I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim

Then take down the misleading challenge lie on your website. Only a second rate charlatan would try to ride the coattails of a great and famous magician.

If you feel that is inaccurate and shouldn't apply to you, tell me why.

Here's how I interpret your "challenge":

"I, Jim Callahan, bet Randi that I can do a magic trick that he can't figure out. I will bet $5,000 and he will bet $1,000,000. Obviously, anyone can see that I'm giving myself a vote of no-confidence with those odds. This test will be under absolutely uncontrolled conditions so that I may freely perform a stunt. Even if I lose the $5,000, I will have gained immeasurably from Randi's acknowledgement of my existence.

Under absolutely no circumstances will I perform any test under controlled conditions, so don't ask."

At least say it like it is, don't wrap it up in pseudo-challenge lingo.

[catbasket]

I think your suggestions are quite good and would allow for the changes in my challenge.

In fact I will add your suggestions to the web page as soon as some other work is finished..

Thanks,

Jim

Waffle. If you do not apply you will not be tested.

Personally I don't believe you'll ever apply, but please go ahead and prove me wrong. Even better, go ahead and win the $1million - become one of the most famous people in the world, extremely rich, and also prove that science as we know it is just plain wrong.

There's just one tiny problem with this scenario - you have no paranormal abilities.


Come on Jim, fess up - you're just using the Randi/JREF/MDC names as a PR crutch for your stage magician's career, aren't you? If not, sincere apologies, but please explain this (paraphrased) sequence of events -

JC: (on your website) I'm gonna win the Randi $million.
JC: (in The Professor's MDC thread) Test me!
JREF: (same thread) Apply.
JC: (this thread) No.
JC: (still on your website) I'm gonna win the Randi $million.
Chorus: (this thread) Well how are you gonna do that if you won't apply?

Jim your credibility is zero.

[Psi Baba]

I wonder if by putting up only $5,000 of his money he believes he can continue to "purchase" repeated guesses at what's in the vault thereby hedging his bets. If he eventually guesses correctly after 100 tries @ $5,000 each, he's ahead a half-million. If he attempts a twenty questions style tactic and is successful, his ROI is even better. Good luck with that.

[remirol]

My sarcasm and skepticism aside, I think the test outlined at http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm by Jim Callahan is quite doable. Isn't there some way he and the JREF can work something out?

Well, for one, the page is entirely full of misdirection that is all irrelevant to the test itself. For two, Jim needs to actually make an application before anything will be "worked out" -- in another thread, he has said that he will not be doing so. This means that Jim's page will remain exactly that -- a webpage, viewed by a random few as a novelty.

Seems simple and direct, and if nothing else will probably result in much publicity for both parties and probably a paycheck for JC, since the event is to take place in an entertainment venue -- which doesn't rule out television.

Yes, this is exactly what Callahan is trying to do -- create a paycheck for himself. He would make far more than the $5,000 he claims to 'risk' from this, and Randi and the JREF would have lent their name (and considerable reputation, far more so than Jim's own) to a complete farce whose only purpose is to actually fill an auditorium for Jim.

Were I in charge of the JREF, I would only consider being involved in such a charade for a 50% cut of the ticket sales, advertising revenue, and other proceeds, no less. And Jim would _still_ have to submit his application and go through all the proper procedures.

[Biscuit]

Jim,

You are welcome to add my changes to your website but until you actually apply for the challenge all you have is an webpage with an idea.

You can state you will teleport an elephant to Mars for all I care.

Why won't you apply? You have already made your claim all you need to do is negotiate a protocol and you already have an outline for that.

[Jim Callahan]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[Biscuit]

Jim,

That doesn't make any sense. You are probably the most qualified person to apply for the MDC. You have plenty of media exposure, I am sure you can get the academic, you have a claim, and you have a pretty decent outline of a protocol!

Throwing up your own challenge and not taking the MDC is just childish! It would seem to me that in order for you to win the $1,000,000 through your own challenge you would still have to apply for the MDC and follow its rules as that is the only way to be tested by the JREF. So stop with the theatrics and put your money where your mouth is!

[steenkh]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.
Why should the JREF prove themselves? They are not in the business of figuring out how magic tricks are being done. They have set up a challenge that people with paranormal claims cannot perform what they claim. You can take that challenge or leave it, but there is no good reason why the JREF should spend time taking other people's challenges. After all, the JREF makes no claims of being able to expose magic tricks.

[William Smith]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.

Best Wishes,

Jim

More deliberate misunderstanding on your part, Jim Callahan.

[catbasket]

More deliberate misunderstanding on your part, Jim Callahan.

Luckily it's all available on an open, public forum for anyone to see.

Mischievous little scamp aren't you Jim? Pity you also come across as someone who has to bolster his career by dragging on the coattails of Randi/JREF/MDC. Sad. Well it keeps the wolf from the door I guess ... and if you can keep your eyes shut, your hands over your ears and shout "lalalala I can't hear you!" over and over you'll never even notice that all the laughing dogs are laughing at you, Jim, not with you.

[RoboTimbo]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.

Best Wishes,

Jim

If it's your challenge, where is the $1 million coming from? Surely not the money used for JREF's MDC? That $1 million is for the MDC. Were you planning on applying for the MDC?

You keep saying it's your challenge and you keep throwing out you winning $1 million from the MDC. But then you say you won't be applying for the MDC. How do you resolve these conflicting statements?

I'm starting a new group, Shenanigans for Charlatans. You'll be our first client.

[xinit]

More deliberate misunderstanding on your part, Jim Callahan.

That's a kind way of putting it. I think that lie would be a bit more direct.

[chillzero]

See my website, "My Jim Callahan $1,000 Challenge (http://nyctours.googlepages.com/gravy%27sjimcallahan%241000challenge)"

http://nyctours.googlepages.com/mycallahanchallenge.jpg/mycallahanchallenge-full.jpg

If anything comes of this, it could create a loop that would consume the world!


James Randi issues a challenge to anyone who can identify the mystery target.

Someone (challenger1) believes they can identify the target and instead of accepting the challenge, challenges Randi to undertake the challenge for entertainment.

Someone (challenger2) spots that marketing ploy, and challenges the challenger to take the initial challenge.

The challenger1 challenges challenger2 to force Randi to under take his (challenger1)'s challenge while refusing to just take Randi's challenge.

Someone (challenger3) challenges challenger1 to take either Randi's challenge or challenger2's challenge.

Challenger1 challenges challenger3 to .....

and so on....


There's no evidence that I have seen that Jim Callahan has taken any steps to directly contact James Randi, and ensure that he is aware of this challenge. I suspect that if he did, Randi would state that agreement to do this would be under the terms of Randi's challenge, but that if the two fit together, there's no reason for it not to go ahead. As long as the terms of Randi's challenge are met, I can't see why marketing it in this format should be an issue for Randi (apart from a possible desire to remove the unnecessary 'flim-flam').

However, to issue a challenge to anybody, and not make sure personally that they are aware of its existence, seems to me to be the height of rudeness, and also, quite telling of how confident a person is in succeeding.

[Locknar]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.

Best Wishes,

JimWhat exactly does the JREF or Randi need to prove?

[Profwag]

There's no evidence that I have seen that Jim Callahan has taken any steps to directly contact James Randi, and ensure that he is aware of this challenge. I suspect that if he did, Randi would state that agreement to do this would be under the terms of Randi's challenge, but that if the two fit together, there's no reason for it not to go ahead. As long as the terms of Randi's challenge are met, I can't see why marketing it in this format should be an issue for Randi (apart from a possible desire to remove the unnecessary 'flim-flam').

Actually Chillzero, Randi has adrdessed Jim's challenge. Search the Swift on Oct 26, 2007 under "Nine Silly Rules." You should find that you were spot on with your thoughts as to what Randi would state.

It would be great to see Mr. Callahan take the MDC, but I think we all know he can't. Being identified as producing his effects with trickery would eliminate any of the mistique he needs for his career to be successful and would hurt him financially, at least in the short term while his failure blows over. He's very good at what he does though and I'm sure will continue to be successful in his presentations.

[chillzero]

Thanks, profwag.

[Azrael 5]

Is there any evidence Jim Callahan actually has a career?

[Moochie]

If anything comes of this, it could create a loop that would consume the world!


<snipped for brevity>




JC and TP disappear up the black hole created by the LHC. I'd like to see that. :D


M.

[Locknar]

You have it wrong Biscuit, it my challenge and the JREF or Randi may take it if they want to prove themselfs.

Best Wishes,

JimJim - I noticed you didn't answer my original question so I though I'd ask again; what does Randi and/or the JREF need to prove?

[Azrael 5]

bump for answer to question.

[Chris H]

Jim's "challenge" is ridiculous. He claims he is testing the JREF by having them let him take their test under his rules. The man is delusional. I've compared it elsewhere to a high school kid wanting to set the questions for his own exam.

Jim's challenge is nothing more than a publicity stunt. He will never apply, and he will never win a million dollars.

Jim Callahan has no "paranormal" ability.

Chris

[not daSkeptic]

Jim Callahan has no "paranormal" ability.

Of course he doesn't. If he did, he wouldn't have to spend so much effort trying to convince people. He'd just do it.

[Azrael 5]

He doesn't have time to take the test anyway,what with all the phoning secret service agents and YouTube videos that never recieve any positive comments.

[Locknar]

Jim - Still looking for the answer to my question in post #105 (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4076026&postcount=105).

[Jim Callahan]

Why would they not.

Everyone must.

Strange Randi should back off when i am offering to give him what he wanted.

[xinit]

Why would they not.

Everyone must.

Strange Randi should back off when i am offering to give him what he wanted.

Who are you answering here, Jim? Why would who not what?

[Pogo]

How now brown cow?

[steenkh]

Why would they not.

Everyone must.
???

Strange Randi should back off when i am offering to give him what he wanted.
When have you received a communication by Randi, and what are you offering him that he wanted?

[William Smith]

Why would they not.

Everyone must.

Strange Randi should back off when i am offering to give him what he wanted.

More deliberate misunderstanding.

[Azrael 5]

Edited for breach of mod warnings

[Locknar]

Why would they not.

Everyone must.

Strange Randi should back off when i am offering to give him what he wanted.Who was this directed to? This is hardly an answer to my question from post #105 (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4076026&postcount=105).

[Jim Callahan]

Yes it may be.

Jim

[Biscuit]

You are a very silly man Jim and you have no paranormal abilities.

[Ron_Tomkins]

You are a very silly man Jim and you have no paranormal abilities.

It's not even about paranormal abilities. Jim's semantic game goes far beyond that. The first thing he would have to do (which I can guarantee you: He will never do it) is first make the following clarification:

What is a "Paranormalist"?
Is it
1) Someone who has supernatural powers
2) Someone who creates the illusion of having supernatural powers (in other words, an Illusionist)


The word "Paranormalist" is a word he made up. It can't be found on any dictionary; and serves him the purpose of never leaving clear on what side of the line he is (Is he an Illusionist or is he a person with Supernatural powers?). For example: on the interviews after what happened at the Criss Angel show, Callahan's argument made it look like he was just an illusionist who claimed to have no supernatural powers. But he plays with this line over and over on different occasions, never making a true statement and thus managing to play with everyone (Even during the show, he wasn't showing consistency. If he doesn't claim to have supernatural powers then why does he get so upset? Why can't he just say "look man, I can't tell what's in your envelope because I do not have supernatural powers, okay?").


So again, until we clarify what a Paranormalist is, Jim is just playing semantics games with Jim.



And now a non-paranormal prediction: Jim will not clarify what a Paranormalist is.

[Jim Callahan]

You are a very silly man Jim and you have no paranormal abilities.

Were do I say that I do?

However I do cliam other things.

Jim

[kitakaze]

Were do I say that I do?

Hi, Jim. I was under the impression that you claimed to be the world's greatest paranormalist. Also don't you claim that you are able to be in contact with a deceased man who gives you information that you would be unable to know otherwise? If I missed your answering this somewhere I apologize

However I do cliam other things.

Jim

Can you give us some examples?

[Biscuit]

Were do I say that I do?

However I do cliam other things.

Jim

Regular communication with a dead man is not a paranormal event?

What is a paranormalist?

[Paul]

Were do I say that I do?
"Raymond Hill is a gentleman that passed over to the other side in 1980. I contacted him about a year and a half ago and he's been working with me in various experiments. He initially used pendulums to communicate with me."

[kitakaze]

"Raymond Hill is a gentleman that passed over to the other side in 1980. I contacted him about a year and a half ago and he's been working with me in various experiments. He initially used pendulums to communicate with me."


The ability to communicate with the dead isn't paranormal?

Hwaaaah?:boggled:

[Jim Callahan]

He is not dead.

[Drs_Res]

You are a very silly man Jim and you have no paranormal abilities.


Were do I say that I do?

However I do cliam other things.

Jim

"Raymond Hill is a gentleman that passed over to the other side in 1980. I contacted him about a year and a half ago and he's been working with me in various experiments. He initially used pendulums to communicate with me."



I am not Jim (or J ack), but I can try to play him on the internet. Allow me:

<Start Jim Mode>
Where in that quote did I state that I did anything paranormal?
You are trying to twist what I said.
</Jim Mode>

Am I close Jim? :)

[Jim Callahan]

I am not Jim (or J ack), but I can try to play him on the internet. Allow me:

<Start Jim Mode>
Where in that quote did I state that I did anything paranormal?
You are trying to twist what I said.
</Jim Mode>

Am I close Jim? :)

Well done but not to much of WOW factor since I allready posted the same.

-Jim

[DJM]

He is not dead.

http://www.tourcharleston.com/press_alert_magicjim_7-06.htm

The entity formally known as Raymond Putnum Hill was a resident of Charleston SC, who died in 1980.

So Raymond died but he's not dead?

:cool::cool:

[Jim Callahan]

http://www.tourcharleston.com/press_alert_magicjim_7-06.htm

[/FONT]

So Raymond died but he's not dead?

:cool::cool:

Yep you got it.

-Jim

[neltana]

Yep you got it.

-Jim

Doesn't that somewhat torture the definitions of "died" and "dead"?

[David Wong]

Doesn't that somewhat torture the definitions of "died" and "dead"?

You might as well lecture a dog about how it doesn't make sense to chase its own tail. Just a waste of time.

[Czarcasm]

Yep you got it.

-JimAnd you're full of it.
Does your entire act consist of jerking people around? If so, I can see why your "fame" is restricted to a few gullibles on the internet.

[not daSkeptic]

Yep you got it.

Died: Having ceased to be living.
Dead: No longer living.

Would you agree with these definitions?

[Ron_Tomkins]

Regular communication with a dead man is not a paranormal event?

What is a paranormalist?

Don't bother. You can ask him as many times as you want. He will not answer that question.

That's his entire game: To create a word that doesn't define if he's either a person with supernatural powers or not, and remain playing with the goalposts.

My prediction remains true: He will never explain what a Paranormalist is.

[Ririon]

You can die and be dead for a few seconds (minutes) and then be revived. And you can have a near death experience at the time. Then you have both died, been dead AND "crossed over to the other side", but you are still very much alive. If you want to twist words a little. Some people like to twist words a lot. Many of them hang around here. :p

[Czarcasm]

Y'all have just got to check out this fake MySpace page Jim has created in the name of " Raymond Putnum Hill". He even has "Hill" listing Jimbo as one of his heroes! http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=308310122

[rjh01]

How on earth did James Randi become one of Raymond Hill's friends?

[catbasket]

Does your entire act consist of jerking people around?

It certainly seems to be, going from the evidence of his post on JREF forums.

I do wander what he gets out of acting like a jerk on a public internet forum. Is it really true that any publicity is good publicity? Seems to me that repeatedly posting the equivalent of "I'm a jerk" is actually bad publicity?

:confusedlaughingdog:

[arthwollipot]

Oh I've got it. It's all so simple now. Raymond is Schrodinger's cat!

[fromdownunder]

Oh I've got it. It's all so simple now. Raymond is Schrodinger's cat!

Well done - thinking outside the box.

Norm

[arthwollipot]

On behalf of the forum, please allow me this groan.

[Azrael 5]

Callahan's "fame" extends to complaining at Criss Angel on a reality TV show where he lost out to-among others-a lame female magic act that makes Keith Barry look like Copperfield.And trolling on internet forums/YouTube
I don't think the trauma has quite been treated yet.

[not daSkeptic]

It's rather interesting that Callahan disappears from these forums for a couple of weeks and then resurfaces at just about the same time as he posts new promotional materials to YouTube.

[William Smith]

Oh I've got it. It's all so simple now. Raymond is Schrodinger's cat!

Correct. And Jim Callahan is Aleister Crowley minus the humor.



"That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange æons even death may die."



:rolleyes:

[Chris H]

...and whilst I don't expect the death that Callahan is promoting will actually happen the way he is suggesting come October 31st, I am curious to know a little more about the euthanasia laws in the United States. Surely withholding information about a potential assisted suicide is significantly more severe than photocopying a banknote? Even more serious would be taking part in it and broadcasting it over the Internet.

Based on his postings on YouTube, we can do nothing more than assume that Jim Callahan will actually be involved in assisting a woman to die this month. Has anyone considered reporting this to the police?

Chris

[William Smith]

...
Has anyone considered reporting this to the police?

Chris

If you consider it necessary, inform the police yourself.



Technically, we should stop posting in this thread, since there won't be an application from Callahan.

Good day, everyone.

[Big Les]

I await the new persona with literally some interest. May I suggest the name "T wat"?

[Moochie]

Callahan's "fame" extends to complaining at Criss Angel on a reality TV show where he lost out to-among others-a lame female magic act that makes Keith Barry look like Copperfield.And trolling on internet forums/YouTube
I don't think the trauma has quite been treated yet.

Oh, come on! I thought Jim's performance was quite good for a beginner. I have no problem with it, only with his stubborn Rule 10 in here. He's got the Magic Cafe for that.

M.

[kitakaze]

The ability to communicate with the dead isn't paranormal?

Hwaaaah?:boggled:

He is not dead.


[/FONT]

So Raymond died but he's not dead?

:cool::cool:

Yep you got it.

-Jim

Raymond died but he is not dead. Jim, I want to understand what you mean by this. Can you please explain? Thanks.

[Azrael 5]

Oh my,Jimmy has updated his website with more nonsense.

Paranormalist Jim Callahan’s demonstration was broadcast live on Halloween October 31, 2007 as part of the NBC show PHENOMENON.
Callahan made a connection between himself and Raymond Hill, a man who passed over to another reality (or died) in 1980, He did this on live television, a confirmed fact.
“To this day no one has proven that Callahan cheated in any way.”


If these are the best critic quotes he can find Id give up the job:
"Jim has once again proven he might know some things that the rest of us just don’t.
I know I have no idea how he and Raymond did it. And I know neither of them will be giving up the information any time soon,” said Dave Koenig/Slim King a mentalist specializing in ESP demonstrations done on the radio and over the phone.

And

“The Truth is that Criss Angel did not Debunk or Expose Jim Callahan on national television.
And if you think he did you are in for a real shock. I don’t even know how he does some of the things he can. The guy can be a bit spooky.” says Timmy O’Brien, owner of WhateverUnique.Com (http://www.whateverunique.com/)Callahan’s Reality Production consultant.

So two quotes from people with a vested interest in Callahan.Not exactly Washington Post is it?!
http://www.jimclass.com/he_really_did_it.htm

[Locknar]

Nothing more then a uncontrolled (ie. no established protocol) "demonstration" done in a uncontrolled setting - golly that is impressive.

If Callahan, SB, or any of these other frauds truly had paranormal ability it would be easy to demonstrate in controlled settings.

But of course these folks know that, which is why they avoid controlled settings at all cost...instead proclaiming paranormal ability based on magic tricks (in Callahan's case for example) or undocumented testimonials (such as SB).

[not daSkeptic]

Nothing more then a uncontrolled (ie. no established protocol) "demonstration" done in a uncontrolled setting - golly that is impressive.

If Callahan, SB, or any of these other frauds truly had paranormal ability it would be easy to demonstrate in controlled settings.

But of course these folks know that, which is why they avoid controlled settings at all cost...instead proclaiming paranormal ability based on magic tricks (in Callahan's case for example) or undocumented testimonials (such as SB).

The sad thing is that the average person doesn't care about such details. Even if they knew what a controlled setting was, they're more interested in a good show than a fair test. People like Callahan know this and they exploit it.

You are correct, however. If Callahan really could do the things he claims he would have no problem submitting to a controlled test.

[kitakaze]

I have only recently become aware of Jim Callahan and watched his routine.

By his statements here and elsewhere I am led to believe that he is not an honest individual. Saying that he claims no paranormal abilities while claiming the ability to communicate with a deceased individual and further indicating that he has died but is not dead clearly shows this as far as I'm concerned.

I would gladly change my mind if Jim could show otherwise.

[fakejakesnake]

Here is my commentary:
Jim is an entertainer, pure and simple. It is what he claims.
If you point out he claims to talk to the dead, you are quoting a crafted character.
In the arena of mystery entertainment, the envelope has always been pushed with regard to claims of paranormal or supernatural, and especially lies (scriptwriting). There is nothing new here. He is playing his role well, and has attempted to capitalize on opportunities made available to him AND opportunities he creates. Does he lie? Well, of course - in the same way that every actor in every movie, play or TV show does.

But there is a sometimes subtle, and sometimes egregious difference with Jim's role-playing: he plays to the choir. Though I suspect his ultimate goal is to win the favor of the general public with his art and marketing, he enjoys plying his art to his fellows. Imagine the actor that continues his role to colleagues, even after hours. Imagine never dropping character even with collaborators, confederates and confidants. This is where Jim takes it. To his character, we are largely a group of participants in the construct taking place in his mind. He toys with us, and delights in letting us know he is toying with us.

So to some extent, we are all willing and unwilling participants, by virtue of being actors in his play, as I am doing right now. To those that only read, you are the readers of the novel, the viewer of painting that started in Jim Callahan's mind and is being played out on several channels all at once: by video, by audio, by written word, by living.

I raise my wine (or gin) glass to the sometimes brilliant and many times nonsensical Jim Callahan and to all the characters he's spawned, but I withhold my further judgement until I see if his story has a point besides ego and one man's art. Some of his posts give testimony to his having a general sense of compassion, deeper thinking, daring, and conscience. I can't help but wonder if sometimes, during moments of quiet, he doesn't question whether the hint of mean-spiritedness in some of this posts, or the "most all others are foolish but me" tone that he tries to project, or the just plain silliness of some of his proclamations (the ones where he intends controversy), will give way to marked wisdom and maturity reflected in his art.

Upon reading another of Jim's controversial stands, will we one day say "Oh, jeez, he's just yanking our chain again".
Who will tire first - the unwilling participants or Jim?
For my taste, his art has to grow for me to continue having interest. I'd like to see what he does when he is not mocking or pointing his finger.

[Ron_Tomkins]

Here is my commentary:
Jim is an entertainer, pure and simple. It is what he claims.
If you point out he claims to talk to the dead, you are quoting a crafted character.
In the arena of mystery entertainment, the envelope has always been pushed with regard to claims of paranormal or supernatural, and especially lies (scriptwriting). There is nothing new here. He is playing his role well, and has attempted to capitalize on opportunities made available to him AND opportunities he creates. Does he lie? Well, of course - in the same way that every actor in every movie, play or TV show does.

But there is a sometimes subtle, and sometimes egregious difference with Jim's role-playing: he plays to the choir. Though I suspect his ultimate goal is to win the favor of the general public with his art and marketing, he enjoys plying his art to his fellows. Imagine the actor that continues his role to colleagues, even after hours. Imagine never dropping character even with collaborators, confederates and confidants. This is where Jim takes it. To his character, we are largely a group of participants in the construct taking place in his mind. He toys with us, and delights in letting us know he is toying with us.

So to some extent, we are all willing and unwilling participants, by virtue of being actors in his play, as I am doing right now. To those that only read, you are the readers of the novel, the viewer of painting that started in Jim Callahan's mind and is being played out on several channels all at once: by video, by audio, by written word, by living.

I raise my wine (or gin) glass to the sometimes brilliant and many times nonsensical Jim Callahan and to all the characters he's spawned, but I withhold my further judgement until I see if his story has a point besides ego and one man's art. Some of his posts give testimony to his having a general sense of compassion, deeper thinking, daring, and conscience. I can't help but wonder if sometimes, during moments of quiet, he doesn't question whether the hint of mean-spiritedness in some of this posts, or the "most all others are foolish but me" tone that he tries to project, or the just plain silliness of some of his proclamations (the ones where he intends controversy), will give way to marked wisdom and maturity reflected in his art.

Upon reading another of Jim's controversial stands, will we one day say "Oh, jeez, he's just yanking our chain again".
Who will tire first - the unwilling participants or Jim?
For my taste, his art has to grow for me to continue having interest. I'd like to see what he does when he is not mocking or pointing his finger.

I think I'll stick to Andy Kauffman for that.

[buzz lightyear]

Here is my commentary:
Jim is an entertainer, pure and simple. It is what he claims.


. I'd like to see what he does when he is not mocking or pointing his finger.

Bravo fakejakesnake!

So refreshing to read a post from someone with his eyes open instead of one of these poor old hacks in their skeptic stupor.

You will know them usually by the number of posts they have. Once they hit 4 figures, forget it. The disease has done its damage.

[kitakaze]

Bravo fakejakesnake!

So refreshing to read a post from someone with his eyes open instead of one of these poor old hacks in their skeptic stupor.

You will know them usually by the number of posts they have. Once they hit 4 figures, forget it. The disease has done its damage.

So does that mean you're about 60% done?

[fromdownunder]

I think I'll stick to Andy Kauffman for that.

You must have read my mind.

Norm

[buzz lightyear]

So does that mean you're about 60% done?

Nah kitakaze, besides having a "natural" immunity to this disease, I also regularly turn off my computer and head out into the real world.

There the infinite complexity of creation defies any attempt to suggest that we know it all.
Or for that matter, that we know more than just a tiny fraction of what is happening around us, both seen and unseen.

[Czarcasm]

Bravo fakejakesnake!

So refreshing to read a post from someone with his eyes open instead of one of these poor old hacks in their skeptic stupor.

You will know them usually by the number of posts they have. Once they hit 4 figures, forget it. The disease has done its damage.Question for Jimbo, fakejakesnake and buzz lightyear:
Where, in the descriptions for this forum or the MDC Challenge forum, do you find "performance art" mentioned as a purpose for either forum? There is a time and place for putting on a show, and a time and place for being straight with whom you are talking to-if someone is incapable of knowing which is which, that person needs help, not applause.

[fakejakesnake]

It is my opinion that neither forum is an appropriate stage for Jim's performance art. Though I give credence to a spark of, or moments of brilliance on Jim's part, I hope you'll see that most of my commentary hoped for a growth on his part and his art to the point where he is no longer compelled to use a place for straight talk (these forums or the Magic Cafe'), as a place to practice his theater or his small-minded vendettas.

You are right - he is incapable of knowing which is which. Or he is capable, but has found justification in his mind for playing us. His personal vendetta was never art, and never produced art.

As I said, I await his growth to see if he has more to offer, or if this is his best.
There is something just different enough about him to keep me intrigued, but I hope he grows to understand what the word colleagues means, and stops pooping where he mines.

Andy Kaufman is one of my heroes, and I believe Jim isn't mature enough to understand why and how Andy made it work.
Jim still has a personal axe to grind.
My sincere hope is that he never posts again, to either place, as his uncaring character.
My opinion is that at this moment, there may not be a difference between Jim and his character.

I've already read the script for Jim's play and know that he's left it to us to write his ending. He will reap what he sows.
And along the way, he has missed so many opportunities to share counsel, growth, wisdom, and friendship from people that share some of his spirt and motivations - in the very places they've set up for that sort of thing. Because he uses these places for questionable motives, he's forgotten that art must be defined by the artist AND by the viewer.

[Locknar]

I have split fakejakesnake's "performance art" discussion here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=126717).

[kitakaze]

I find the last two posts on the subject that fakejakesnake to be very thought-provoking but I find the best summation in what Czarcasm wrote.

I for one am seeking straight clarification from Jim on his claims to better understand criticisms for and against him. He is intentionally hampering that process for reasons I don't care to consider.

[Azrael 5]

When Jim claimed "Someone will die tonight" for his International Seance Project,I don't think he could have foretold the only thing dying would be his website!!!

I love irony.The big Slim an Jim show is going to have no audience for the amazing EVP and ITC contact. :D

[Azrael 5]

Bumped for this
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=279353&forum=251&479&start=450#28

Randi also waved the[prelimanary] first tests for SB.

If he would for me I would take his challege.

I allready did it once on national TV.

No one exposed me on the live show.

Randi & Angel let people think that was the case but it looks like
my $50,000.00 is still safe.
Why becouse Randi & Angel could not expose me!

I bet I can win the $1,000,000,00



Is it game on then Jim?

[kitakaze]

Has Jim clarified anywhere how someone can die but not be dead?

[kitakaze]

BTW, Jim, I've enjoyed sharing the youtube video of you getting powned by Criss Angel with friends.

The total spaz was maybe not the most effectual choice of response to Angel's challenge, no?

[arthwollipot]

Has Jim clarified anywhere how someone can die but not be dead?Not so far as I know, but there have been a few Jim threads that I haven't been following because I didn't want to seem the creepy stalker type.

[desertgal]

Has Jim clarified anywhere how someone can die but not be dead?

Oh, he would probably just recite that old spiritual saw about how people don't really die, they just cross to the other side.

[Big Les]

Can somebody PLEASE tell me WTF "H.o.A-X" is supposed to mean? Other than the obvious?

[rjh01]

Can somebody PLEASE tell me WTF "H.o.A-X" is supposed to mean? Other than the obvious?

Try the link below. I doubt if we will ever get any better explanation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax


My betting is that Jim will not even say what paranormal things he can do, let alone demonstrate them.

[skeen]

I always wonder about people like Jim, and Uri Geller: do their wives know they're frauds? Surely they do. I also don't know how you can live with yourself, leaving a legacy of fakery and deception.

[Jim Callahan]

Try the link below. I doubt if we will ever get any better explanation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax


My betting is that Jim will not even say what paranormal things he can do, let alone demonstrate them.

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim

[Jim Callahan]

Ignore the articulate and well thought out criticisms and focus on one-liners. Good idea. I mean, if you want to prove something, like that skeptics don't really think, it is best to ignore evidence to the contrary.

"I do what I claim." So do I. It is an easy thing to say when what that claim exactly is is nebulous.

But I have my claim and challenge posted.

Randi came up with the test and now runs from it.
(Bit odd don't you think)?

Anyway sorry if I was edgy some of this stuff just runs a bit think at times.
I also understand that most here would have no idea of that.

And I say sorry for not be as nice to you as i should have been.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[not daSkeptic]

Hey good one and your point is what?

I would have thought that was obvious. I'm accusing you of employing the same sort of tactics as those who engage in fraudulent activity. You never say what you are or what you do except in the most vague and undefined terms. You are only explicit about what you are not or what you don't do. Effectively, you never say anything, and thus you cannot be held to any particular commitment. It is a method used when one has something to hide.

[chillzero]

Posts moved to AAH. Get back on topic, and stop bickering. Be civil.

[kitakaze]

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim

I'm not sure if I understand. Did you not indicate that Raymond Hill died but is not dead and that you are in communication with him. Is that not something you said and is that not a paranormal thing if one were to do it?

[Jim Callahan]

Why would it be paranormal?

When you read my words on this screen are you not in communication with me?

I am both a part and apart from this conversation.
Raymond Hill is much the same.

His corporeal self stopped its progression along the time line we share in nineteen eighty however other parts of him continue interacting.

That was proven during my experiment on the NBC show.

Hope this makes my position more clear to you.

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

I would have thought that was obvious. I'm accusing you of employing the same sort of tactics as those who engage in fraudulent activity. You never say what you are or what you do except in the most vague and undefined terms. You are only explicit about what you are not or what you don't do. Effectively, you never say anything, and thus you cannot be held to any particular commitment. It is a method used when one has something to hide.


Sorry but you are wrong.

I have made very specific claims and just because you wish to paint me as something other than what is claimed on my website, challenges and guarantees I can only assume you are unwilling to consider other possibilities.

Nothing is being hidden.

However it looks to many like you desire that to be the situation and are intentionally not seeing what is really before you.

Not terribly unlike a person in a hypnotic state.

Possibly this post will snap you out of it.

Hope your holidays are enjoyable.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[CFLarsen]

"I dance around, but you ain't ever going to catch me...ha, ha, I am laughing at you..."

Ain't clever. It's boring. Try something unique. Like provide evidence of the claims.

[Jim Callahan]

I proved on national TV a connection between myself and Raymond Hill.
Made a claim of what would and could be done.

Proof was given on live TV.
Angel, Randi and the others claimed I was exposed but that is not the truth.

So there you have evidence of the claim.
I also have guaranteed the facts of the experiment with $50,000.00

My test/demonstration was based upon Randi's own proposed RV test.

It was my was of proving I could do it and why he will not take my challenge.

There I think that is all pretty clear.

Have a good weekend.

Jim

[Anna Karenina]

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim


You are such a liar and an awful one. When Criss Angel accused you of faking your paranormal abilities and challenged you, you called him an 'ideological bigot' and had a big cry about it and after the show talked at length about how your powers were real. What is the matter with you? Do you have selective memory loss? You claim you communicate with Raymond and that the first communication was through one of those stupid dangling crystals - isn't that paranormal?

[not daSkeptic]

I proved on national TV a connection between myself and Raymond Hill.
Made a claim of what would and could be done.

Proof was given on live TV.
Angel, Randi and the others claimed I was exposed but that is not the truth.

So there you have evidence of the claim.
I also have guaranteed the facts of the experiment with $50,000.00

My test/demonstration was based upon Randi's own proposed RV test.

The problem with your evidence is that although it may support your claims, it does not refute the alternatives. As such, while your test may have been based upon one of Randi's, it completely missed the point. The goal is not to prove something correct but to disprove everything else. You did not do this.

[not daSkeptic]

I have made very specific claims and just because you wish to paint me as something other than what is claimed on my website, challenges and guarantees I can only assume you are unwilling to consider other possibilities.

Nothing is being hidden.

On the contrary. You claim to be able to do certain things and evade when questioned as to whether it is real or just an act. You do not state your abilities in such a way so as to permit other parties to answer this question for themselves. Your website is no less vague than you are, containing the same boilerplate disclaimers as used by any number of woo-related offerings. Finally, and most telling, when someone manages to back you into a corner as it were, you snap and start throwing around personal insults.

[Jim Callahan]

But why should I?

That is not my job is it?

Your boy Angel could not take me down even with the help of NBC and hidden cameras.
Now what does that tell you?

I have proven myself and see no reason to exclude things I allready have.
The NBC experiment was test conditions.
(Randi put Angel up to what he did and found out I can do what I say)!

You may not have seen it but the proof is on tape somewere and Angel is sad that it does not contain any proof of fraud.

Me I love it.


Jim

[not daSkeptic]

But why should I?

That is not my job is it?

I suppose not ... assuming of course that you have no problem with your status remaining forever in question.

Your boy Angel could not take me down even with the help of NBC and hidden cameras.
Now what does that tell you?

Absolutely nothing. It neither proved nor disproved anything except that you have a bit of a temper.

(Randi put Angel up to what he did and found out I can do what I say)!

Could you please cite a source for this?

You may not have seen it but the proof is on tape somewere and Angel is sad that it does not contain any proof of fraud.

You seem to be forgetting that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because one cannot produce proof of fraud does not mean fraud did not occur. It also does not mean it did occur. Thus, all things being equal, the simpler explanation in this case (i.e. the one that assumes the least) is that fraud was committed.

I must also ask, if the network truly possesses evidence of your abilities, why are they not capitalizing on it? This is an area where things always fall apart. Fraudsters underestimate just how financially lucrative such evidence would be. Did such a tape really exist, it would be all over the news media, the scientific community would be abuzz with activity, the response would be massive. While there are many reasons why this has not occurred, the simplest is that such a tape simply does not exist.

[kitakaze]

Why would it be paranormal?

Because Raymond Hill is dead. Communicating with a dead person is not normal. It is outside normal, thus paranormal. It doesn't seem you are interested in being sincere with people about what you claim to be able to do.

When you read my words on this screen are you not in communication with me?

You have a pulse. People who have a pulse can type, dead people can not.

I am both a part and apart from this conversation.
Raymond Hill is much the same.

His corporeal self stopped its progression along the time line we share in nineteen eighty however other parts of him continue interacting.

That was proven during my experiment on the NBC show.

Hope this makes my position more clear to you.

Jim

You did not prove you are in communication with a deceased person. You proved you are an entertainer and an illusionist. If you were in communication with a dead person it would not be a major issue discerning what was written in Criss Angel's envelope instead of having a sorry fit.

If you were in communication with a noncorporeal entity it would be a small matter to tell me my father's name. You could simply take the small amount of time to do that and silence all these people here who see you as a fraud. You can not because you are an entertainer rather than a medium.

[Ron_Tomkins]

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim

Why, of course you didn't. You do not have Paranormal Powers. You are a Paranormalist.

By the way, what is a Paranormalist? :)

[rjh01]

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim

Right. In the same way that President Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman. In your case though it is not just one woman.

[Jim Callahan]

Because Raymond Hill is dead. Communicating with a dead person is not normal. It is outside normal, thus paranormal. It doesn't seem you are interested in being sincere with people about what you claim to be able to do.



You have a pulse. People who have a pulse can type, dead people can not.



You did not prove you are in communication with a deceased person. You proved you are an entertainer and an illusionist. If you were in communication with a dead person it would not be a major issue discerning what was written in Criss Angel's envelope instead of having a sorry fit.

If you were in communication with a noncorporeal entity it would be a small matter to tell me my father's name. You could simply take the small amount of time to do that and silence all these people here who see you as a fraud. You can not because you are an entertainer rather than a medium.

Why would you think that once you stop traveling this time line all of a sudden you have super powers you did not have here?

Also I did accept Angels challenge but becouse he did not have the cash it did not happen durring the show.
The producers were told that if he showed up with the cash the deal was on.
In fact I guarantee that with $50,000.00 on my website.

But guess what? Angel started running and has been just like Randi has in my opinion.

Thanks,

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

Right. In the same way that President Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman. In your case though it is not just one woman.



Put up or shut up.
That is the deal here is it not?

However I notice you people keep up with this and never offer proof.

I know why do you?

Give you a hint if you need it.:cool:

Jim

[kitakaze]

Why would you think that once you stop traveling this time line all of a sudden you have super powers you did not have here?

If a noncorporeal entity can tell you the contents of a sealed box chosen from a high number of possibilties, that being on a different plane of existence should have no problem letting you know my father's name. Easy breezy. Because you are simply an entertainer making false claims, that won't happen. I simply chose a simple method to show that.

Also I did accept Angels challenge but becouse he did not have the cash it did not happen durring the show.
The producers were told that if he showed up with the cash the deal was on.
In fact I guarantee that with $50,000.00 on my website.

But guess what? Angel started running and has been just like Randi has in my opinion.

Thanks,

Jim

That's obviously you being dishonest again. If it were true, you could have easily said "I accept. Where's the money?" rather than having an amazing spaz.

[not daSkeptic]

Put up or shut up.
That is the deal here is it not?

However I notice you people keep up with this and never offer proof.

I know why do you?

The reason is because you refuse to allow yourself to be tested in a manner that would rule out trickery. Despite what you may believe, your television performance has not been shown to meet this criteria, nor has the test offering you propose on your website. Thus, there is no proof because you are disallowing it.

[kitakaze]

In fact I guarantee that with $50,000.00 on my website.

We have little reason to believe anything you say about money. You're a Vegas-style performer who refers to himself as the "World"s Greatest Paranormalist" and doesn't deal well with skepticism. You said:

Never said I did Paranormal things.

_Jim

And your own website says:

What is a Paranormalist?

The short answer is that I Create Reality.

Unlike what magicians create (tricks & illusions) what I present is based upon experiences that most people have knowledge of. Anomalous occurrences not yet explained by modern science and known to all cultures for centuries.

Over the years I have researched and worked as an investigator of hauntings, psychic phenomena and alien abduction- in short the kind of things you might see in the Twilight Zone and X-Files. Using the information gathered over the years and combing it with my own research in Group Organism Dynamics, Personality Profiling, Hypnotism and Natural Science I have found ways to reproduce these phenomena and experiences as entertainment. Most of my contemporaries recognize this as a new and very exiting type of entertainment.

I create what could be called paranormal events in an entertainment venue.

http://jimclass.com/what_is_a_paranormalist.htm

Riiiight. :rolleyes:

[Jim Callahan]

The reason is because you refuse to allow yourself to be tested in a manner that would rule out trickery. Despite what you may believe, your television performance has not been shown to meet this criteria, nor has the test offering you propose on your website. Thus, there is no proof because you are disallowing it.

Well then we dissagree and have no further reason to debate the topic.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

We have little reason to believe anything you say about money. You're a Vegas-style performer who refers to himself as the "World"s Greatest Paranormalist" and doesn't deal well with skepticism. You said:



And your own website says:



http://jimclass.com/what_is_a_paranormalist.htm

Riiiight. :rolleyes:


All of that and no proof I ever said I had Paranormal powers?

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

On the contrary. You claim to be able to do certain things and evade when questioned as to whether it is real or just an act. You do not state your abilities in such a way so as to permit other parties to answer this question for themselves. Your website is no less vague than you are, containing the same boilerplate disclaimers as used by any number of woo-related offerings. Finally, and most telling, when someone manages to back you into a corner as it were, you snap and start throwing around personal insults.


Personal insults?

What are you talking about?

I make very specific claims on my site. Now I have made it clear I claim no Paranormal power.

How hard a fact is that to understand?

Do you really not?

Jim

[Jeff Corey]

Spot the misstake here,

"What is a Master Magician?
It is a magician who, like myself, can perform and create in virtually any type of performance venue."

[not daSkeptic]

Well then we dissagree and have no further reason to debate the topic.

That's right. Keep running away from situations you cannot control.

[kitakaze]

All of that and no proof I ever said I had Paranormal powers?

Jim

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/89614956e148cc629.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14702)

Nice try.

Creating what could be called a paranormal event is doing a paranormal thing. I think you have a basic problem being honest with people who seek clarification from you.

[kitakaze]

That's right. Keep running away from situations you cannot control.

What kind of person offers only to testing that they themselves designed and none other and expects people to not see right through it?

[Jim Callahan]

That's right. Keep running away from situations you cannot control.

No need to controll anything.

I gave you truth and you cannot deal with it.

Not unlike many people who think things that are not true.

Thanks,

Jim

[not daSkeptic]

No need to controll anything.

Prove it.

[kitakaze]

From Mr. Callahan's site:

Angel soon found out that he was not in the same class as Houdini and was not up to the task of dealing with Callahan on live television.

http://jimclass.com/he_really_did_it.htm

Looks like Angel was dealing with a cheesy Vegas sideshow act with a temper parading as a medium. Looked like he was pretty ready for it to me but I'll let others make up their mind after seeing it for themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roaLgL7adl4

[kitakaze]

No need to controll anything.

Great, we're making progress. Since you have no need to control anything then you'll glady submit to a test not of your own design, right?

[not daSkeptic]

Personal insults?

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about your response to Chris Angel. I'm talking about your responses to people here than have been removed from threads for violating the rules. You have a habit of attacking people when you cannot attack their arguments.

I make very specific claims on my site.

Then by all means, please share with us some material from your website that describes what you do in terms that are unambiguous and testable.

[desertgal]

Looks like Angel was dealing with a cheesy Vegas sideshow act with a temper parading as a medium. Looked like he was pretty ready for it to me but I'll let others make up their mind after seeing it for themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roaLgL7adl4

I have to agree with Criss Angel about Callahan: "Blah Blah Blah What a Joke Blah Blah Blah..."

[Jim Callahan]

Great, we're making progress. Since you have no need to control anything then you'll glady submit to a test not of your own design, right?

Sure once you work out a protocall and we both agree on it why not.

Jim

[Jim Callahan]

I have to agree with Criss Angel about Callahan: "Blah Blah Blah What a Joke Blah Blah Blah..."

I still find it amazing you people still think it was real.
*Hint the test was but nothing else.:D


-Jim

[kitakaze]

Sure once you work out a protocall and we both agree on it why not.

Jim

How about I write my father's name on a piece of paper, get an envelope, and some salt. I take a picture of it also and pm it to someone here. I'll put the name and some salt in the envelope. You take the same amount of time you did on Phenomenom and let us know.

How does that sound?

[not daSkeptic]

I still find it amazing you people still think it was real.
*Hint the test was but nothing else.:D

If you're referring to your alleged communication with Raymond Hill, I doubt very many here think that really occurred.

[kitakaze]

I still find it amazing you people still think it was real.

Of course we do. We have no reason to think you're honest. You said never did paranormal things which is clearly in contradiction to your claims.

[not daSkeptic]

How about I write my father's name on a piece of paper, get an envelope, and some salt. I take a picture of it also and pm it to someone here. I'll put the name and some salt in the envelope. You take the same amount of time you did on Phenomenom and let us know.

How does that sound?

Generate a SHA-1 hash of the picture file and post it somewhere online before the test. That way when you eventually reveal the picture itself everyone can verify you didn't switch images.

[kitakaze]

Generate a SHA-1 hash of the picture file and post it somewhere online before the test. That way when you eventually reveal the picture itself everyone can verify you didn't switch images.

I'm not sure what a SHA-1 hash is. But if that is better than PMing someone the photo, I will do that.

What do you say, Jim? Got the salt and the envelope and everything. You and Raymond should have no trouble. If you were willing to take Angel's challenge, this should be a breeze.

[Pogo]

I wonder what will happen now?

Jim disappears from the discussion

or,

Jim explains that these things can't be done on demand (the TV performance notwithstanding)

or,

Jim states that he doesn't have to prove anything to anybody

or,

Jim explains that Raymond will not cooperate for people who do not believe in him

or,

Jim successfully contacts Raymond who gives him the name in the envelope.

Some of these outcomes seem more likely than others.

[desertgal]

I still find it amazing you people still think it was real.
*Hint the test was but nothing else.:D


-Jim

Please. The only thing real in that episode was Angel's reaction, and his assessment of you. The rest was just the usual television smoke and mirrors and some really bad acting on your part. "Comical", as Angel put it.

[Jim Callahan]

Please. The only thing real in that episode was Angel's reaction, and his assessment of you. The rest was just the usual television smoke and mirrors and some really bad acting on your part. "Comical", as Angel put it.

And to think criticaly about what you saw and could check out scare you does it not.

Or at least some part of you.
Becouse to do so would prove your postion to be based upon intellectual fraud.

I am am correct am I not?

Jim

[desertgal]

And to think criticaly about what you saw and could check out scare you does it not.

Or at least some part of you.
Becouse to do so would prove your postion to be based upon intellectual fraud.

I am am correct am I not?

Jim

Simply put, no. You are are not.

(And I'd think that Raymond Hill might have "told" you that it is "wheels", not "weels".)

[Jim Callahan]

Simply put, no. You are are not.

(And I'd think that Raymond Hill might have "told" you that it is "wheels", not "weels".)

Yep and it has one extra letter.

He also used the number 4 instead of spelling it out.

All comes down to time baby and planting reasons for interaction.

You ever read Virus of the Mind.
(Now you guys have been given a gaint clue)

Jim

[kitakaze]

Sure once you work out a protocall and we both agree on it why not.

Jim

So what do you say, Jim? Shall I get my salt, envelope, and paper? Should be a cake walk for you and Raymond. And the payoff, wow. Think of all these doubters you'll silence at the JREF.

[kitakaze]

Please. The only thing real in that episode was Angel's reaction, and his assessment of you. The rest was just the usual television smoke and mirrors and some really bad acting on your part. "Comical", as Angel put it.

Oh, jeez. That acting was like parmesan, blue cheese, and natto on a wet dog. Total stinkville.

I noted that Mr. Callahan said that at no point did he ever have contact with the box with the salt and object in it. So what? Nothing was ever said about the 99 objects left over after Raven chose one. Who's to say he or someone with him didn't keep a list and have a look after Raven chose the object? You want to be a little more impressive with the Vegas act, try having the item selected in front of everybody while ensuring you have no way of observing.

[desertgal]

Oh, jeez. That acting was like parmesan, blue cheese, and natto on a wet dog. Total stinkville.

I noted that Mr. Callahan said that at no point did he ever have contact with the box with the salt and object in it. So what? Nothing was ever said about the 99 objects left over after Raven chose one. Who's to say he or someone with him didn't keep a list and have a look after Raven chose the object? You want to be a little more impressive with the Vegas act, try having the item selected in front of everybody while ensuring you have no way of observing.

I noticed that Raven was totally convincing when she said that she was the only one who knew what was in the box. I mean, that was almost Oscar worthy. I didn't believe she was reciting what the producers had told her to say at all. :D

[desertgal]

Yep and it has one extra letter.

He also used the number 4 instead of spelling it out.

All comes down to time baby and planting reasons for interaction.

You ever read Virus of the Mind.
(Now you guys have been given a gaint clue)

Jim

"Utterly deceptive twaddle speak, says I."

[Jim Callahan]

"Utterly deceptive twaddle speak, says I."

Nope but I do understand why you need to think that.

To consider the other option or two would be a problem for you and as I said I totaly understand why.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[desertgal]

Nope but I do understand why you need to think that.

To consider the other option or two would be a problem for you and as I said I totaly understand why.

Best Wishes,

Jim


You understand nothing, Jimbo. Just more twaddle speak. :rolleyes:

The only problem I have is that we live in the same town - and that's not so much a problem as just embarrassing.

[kitakaze]

I wonder what will happen now?

Jim disappears from the discussion

or,

Jim explains that these things can't be done on demand (the TV performance notwithstanding)

or,

Jim states that he doesn't have to prove anything to anybody

or,

Jim explains that Raymond will not cooperate for people who do not believe in him

or,

Jim successfully contacts Raymond who gives him the name in the envelope.

Some of these outcomes seem more likely than others.

It would seem Jim would be going for the say nothing and hope it goes way option. Very telling given the simplicity of the challenge and the potential gain if he were to take it.

[skeen]

Ugh, just like all other woo woo's, speaking in circles, never proving anything. Jim, you are truly unoriginal. I do want to know though, with complete sincerity, how does it feel, inside, living a life of fakery and deception? And lies?

You're fooling no-one. Can't you see that? Angel exposed you. Exposed. The public saw it, and laughed. You and Uri are as pathetic as one another. And this is not a personal insult, it's an honest judgement based on real events. If pathetic is not the word, then goodness - what is?

You know what's funny? It only takes one. It only takes one of you people to prove your abilities are real. Just one. Silly woo woo's.

[kitakaze]

Ugh, just like all other woo woo's, speaking in circles, never proving anything. Jim, you are truly unoriginal. I do want to know though, with complete sincerity, how does it feel, inside, living a life of fakery and deception? And lies?

I'm sure Jim doesn't see himself as deceitful. Which weird when you consider he has difficulty answering simple questions honestly.

I imagine though, it must be frustrating for Mr. Callahan when one does a search on him to immediately see his embarrassing episode on Phenomenom. He calls himself the "World's Greatest Paranormalist" and he doesn't even have a small wikipedia entry. And to think, all he ever had to do is acknowledge the illusory nature of his act as respected mentalists do. I wonder if he regrets that now. I think he might but pride would never allow him to admit it.

[Jim Callahan]

Ugh, just like all other woo woo's, speaking in circles, never proving anything. Jim, you are truly unoriginal. I do want to know though, with complete sincerity, how does it feel, inside, living a life of fakery and deception? And lies?

You're fooling no-one. Can't you see that? Angel exposed you. Exposed. The public saw it, and laughed. You and Uri are as pathetic as one another. And this is not a personal insult, it's an honest judgement based on real events. If pathetic is not the word, then goodness - what is?

You know what's funny? It only takes one. It only takes one of you people to prove your abilities are real. Just one. Silly woo woo's.

Angel exposed nothing.
He requested different test and set the rules.
(That is not exposing)

However the producers could not confirm he had the money and most know that is why I do this. I accepted the challenge if he had the money. He did not.

In fact Angel did not keep his promise did he?
(He said he would expose me)

Nope he started running when asked about the money.
In fact he never even opened the other envelope becouse of it.
(Said he was going to his tv show)
Guess he legal boys told him that would be a bid, big, big misstake.

You see you were and are fooling yourself into thinking something that is untrue.

I did what I claimed to be able to do. (Guaranteed on my website) Angel did not expose me as he said he would. (Note: I never said I could tell what was in an envelope. Not part of my deal.)

Also Angel did not expose Uri. He still is doing his TV shows and Angel is tanking in Vegas.
Angel was and is the only person hurt by all of this.

So the truth of the matter is Angel could not touch me so he attempted to change the subject. You are ok with this becouse you need to think you are correct and will omitt any facts that might throw your position into doubt.

But please keep on down your current path it proves just how good the performances and scripting were.

Please remember I never claimed to nor do I have any paranormal power.
I am an entertainer.

Might I suggest reading Virus of the Mind.
You might then get a clue about some of what I do.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[desertgal]

Angel exposed nothing.
He requested different test and set the rules.
(That is not exposing)

However the producers could not confirm he had the money and most know that is why I do this. I accepted the challenge if he had the money. He did not.

In fact Angel did not keep his promise did he?
(He said he would expose me)

Nope he started running when asked about the money.
In fact he never even opened the other envelope becouse of it.
(Said he was going to his tv show)
Guess he legal boys told him that would be a bid, big, big misstake.

You see you were and are fooling yourself into thinking something that is untrue.

I did what I claimed to be able to do. (Guaranteed on my website) Angel did not expose me as he said he would. (Note: I never said I could tell what was in an envelope. Not part of my deal.)

Also Angel did not expose Uri. He still is doing his TV shows and Angel is tanking in Vegas.
Angel was and is the only person hurt by all of this.

So the truth of the matter is Angel could not touch me so he attempted to change the subject. You are ok with this becouse you need to think you are correct and will omitt any facts that might throw your position into doubt.

But please keep on down your current path it proves just how good the performances and scripting were.

Please remember I never claimed to nor do I have any paranormal power.
I am an entertainer.

Might I suggest reading Virus of the Mind.
You might then get a clue about some of what I do.

Best Wishes,

Jim

And, yet even more twaddle speak...

[kitakaze]

I did what I claimed to be able to do. (Guaranteed on my website) Angel did not expose me as he said he would. (Note: I never said I could tell what was in an envelope. Not part of my deal.)

Mr. Callahan's website:

*Callahan however did accept Angel’s challenge to divine the contents of two envelopes by notifying the producers of the show but was told they (the producers) could not confirm Angel had the one million dollars in liquid assets to pay Callahan when he successfully completed the test.

Callahan, told the producers of PHENOMENON the following.
" I'll tell you what confirm he has the million he challenged me with and have it at the next show. And I will take his test and his money from him. I have no doubt he will loose his money."

http://www.jimclass.com/he_really_did_it.htm

Also Angel did not expose Uri. He still is doing his TV shows and Angel is tanking in Vegas.
Angel was and is the only person hurt by all of this.

When's your next show? A search on you immediately shows the Phenomenom fiasco. Many people recognize you as an attention starved hoaxer. I would venture Angel's challenge and your tantrum on live national television hurt your "World's Greatest Paranormalist" plenty.

Please remember I never claimed to nor do I have any paranormal power.
I am an entertainer.

Oh, look. Backpedalling? Yes, you did. You claim the power to communicate with the dead. Or was it not that power that was giving you the big ham physical show you were putting on on Phenomenom?

[kitakaze]

Might I suggest reading Virus of the Mind.
You might then get a clue about some of what I do.

Virus of the Mind:

Summary

Virus of the Mind is the first popular book devoted to the science of memetics, a controversial new field that transcends psychology, biology, anthropology, and cognitive science. Memetics is the science of memes, the invisible but very real DNA of human society.

In Virus of the Mind, Richard Brodie carefully builds on the work of scientists Richard Dawkins, Douglas Hofstadter, Daniel Dennett, and others who have become fascinated with memes and their potential impact on our lives. But Brodie goes beyond science and dives into the meat of the issue: is the emergence of this new science going to have an impact on our lives like the emergence of atomic physics did in the Cold War?

Brodie would say the impact will be at least as great. While atomic bombs affect everybody's life, viruses of the mind touch lives in a more personal and more pernicious way.

Mind viruses have already infected governments, educational systems, and inner cities, leading to some of the most pervasive and troublesome problems of society today: youth gangs, the welfare cycle, the deterioration of the public schools, and ever-growing government bureaucracy.

Viruses of the mind are not a future worry: they are here with us now and are evolving to become better and better at their job of infecting us. The recent explosion of mass media and the information superhighway has made the earth a prime breeding ground for viruses of the mind.

Will there be a mental plague? Will only some of us survive with our free will intact? Brodie weaves together science, ethics, and current events as he raises these and other very disturbing questions about memes.



http://www.memecentral.com/votm.htm

Please feel free to explain how this relates and why anyone should need to read this book to gain an understanding of your claim of the ability to communicate with the dead.

[not daSkeptic]

Please feel free to explain how this relates and why anyone should need to read this book to gain an understanding of your claim of the ability to communicate with the dead.

It doesn't relate to his claim, but it does relate to how he views us. Unfortunately, that is off-topic for this thread. Should somebody wish to create a new one ...

[kitakaze]

If I understand correctly, Mr. Callahan will not accept the MDC. Discussing his claims in general would seem to warrant its own thread. If appropriate, I will start a thread "Jim Callahan does not communicate with dead people."

[chillzero]

I think this thread is sufficient. It was moved out of the MDC section when he made it clear he wasn't applying.

[kitakaze]

Got it. Thanks for the clarification. Chill, if Mr. Callahan would accept my proposal to use his abilities to divine my father's name written on a piece of paper sealed in an envelope with salt, may I select you as a moderator to pm a photo of the paper and envelope to to ensure I will not be able to switch images?

To be clear, I think Mr. Callahan will not accept but just in case.

[chillzero]

I'm happy to assist. :)

[Ron_Tomkins]

I think I'm willing to offer Jim a Million Dollars... heck, make that a Billion Dollars, if he accepts to explain in detail what a "Paranormalist" is

[not daSkeptic]

Alrighty then.

Callahan has on many occasions demonstrated a view of Randi as a religious figure complete with blind followers. The idea of skepticism as a cult is not novel. It is entirely possible he is playing this angle, antagonizing the believers as it were. To what end I cannot say. Could be for fame and fortune, could be he derives some sort of sick pleasure from it. For all I know he could be a pawn in some highly-elaborate sociology experiment, but I think this less likely than the other alternatives.

[kitakaze]

I think I'm willing to offer Jim a Million Dollars... heck, make that a Billion Dollars, if he accepts to explain in detail what a "Paranormalist" is

I just happened to check that. Entering "paranormalist" in wikipedia reroutes you to its entry on mentalists:

The term mentalist refers to entertainers whose performance appears to be based on "psychic" abilities, featuring the ability to read minds, project the mind to alter the state of matter, foretell the future, and see distant and hidden objects. This branch of magic is referred to as "mentalism."[1]

There are analogues in the field of parapsychology, where a mentalist is defined as someone who is believed to read thoughts and place suggestions in people's minds. While a psychic may claim to observe a hidden spiritual reality and report on it, in a process known as "psychic reading" (see cold reading) a mentalist might claim the ability to manipulate and change that reality. The stage mentalist ostensibly mimics these supernatural behaviours by natural means.

Mr. Callahan is not a mentalist, or at least an honest one, as he claims he does in fact receive trivial hidden information (such as the contents of a sealed container with salt) from the deceased.

[kitakaze]

Alrighty then.

Callahan has on many occasions demonstrated a view of Randi as a religious figure complete with blind followers. The idea of skepticism as a cult is not novel. It is entirely possible he is playing this angle, antagonizing the believers as it were. To what end I cannot say. Could be for fame and fortune, could be he derives some sort of sick pleasure from it. For all I know he could be a pawn in some highly-elaborate sociology experiment, but I think this less likely than the other alternatives.

Since by his own actions Mr. Callahan has bereft himself of any potential fortunes as a performer and garnered only minor infamy, he might want to think about that more carefully.

OTOH, it is quite apparent he enjoys messing with people.

[Jim Callahan]

Alrighty then.

Callahan has on many occasions demonstrated a view of Randi as a religious figure complete with blind followers. The idea of skepticism as a cult is not novel. It is entirely possible he is playing this angle, antagonizing the believers as it were. To what end I cannot say. Could be for fame and fortune, could be he derives some sort of sick pleasure from it. For all I know he could be a pawn in some highly-elaborate sociology experiment, but I think this less likely than the other alternatives.

Well you do look like the one poster here with some level of understanding.

Even if it is a bit shallow.

But I will say I did not expect any level of thought and considertion to be found here.

Would like to offer only the blind are pawns in this work of art.
(But does it matter maybe not, but who cares)?


Thanks,

Jim

[skeen]

If I may, here is the clip where Callahan got, for lack of a better phrase, "uber pwnd" by Criss Angel, for those newcomers who don't know who this man is:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8kAdZcbfiGY

"A flare of honesty." Heh! Good ol' Uri. Silly men.

[RoboTimbo]

No need to controll anything.

I gave you truth and you cannot deal with it.

Not unlike many people who think things that are not true.

Thanks,

Jim


It isn't too late for you to apply for the MDC and have your paranormalist powers tested in a controlled environment.

I mean, if you actually do stand behind what you say, of course.

[Chris H]

But I have my claim and challenge posted.

Randi came up with the test and now runs from it.
(Bit odd don't you think)?

Anyway sorry if I was edgy some of this stuff just runs a bit think at times.
I also understand that most here would have no idea of that.

And I say sorry for not be as nice to you as i should have been.

Best Wishes,

Jim




I proved on national TV a connection between myself and Raymond Hill.
Made a claim of what would and could be done.

Proof was given on live TV.
Angel, Randi and the others claimed I was exposed but that is not the truth.

So there you have evidence of the claim.
I also have guaranteed the facts of the experiment with $50,000.00

My test/demonstration was based upon Randi's own proposed RV test.

It was my was of proving I could do it and why he will not take my challenge.

There I think that is all pretty clear.

Have a good weekend.

Jim




Sure once you work out a protocall and we both agree on it why not.

Jim



Just to clarify, for those who missed the first couple of pages of this thread.



I'll state this again for this thread.

If Jim Callahan can perform as he did on Phenomenon, under proper observing conditions, he would win the million.

As for his claim, he claims to be in communication with an entity by the name of Raymond Hill, who can see inside sealed objects. At least that's my take on what I saw on Phenomenon. I'm hoping Jim will clarify further, or correct me if I'm wrong.

But first, he must apply.




I will not be sending in an application for the MDC.

Jim



Jim Callahan has no intention of applying for the MDC, and his "challenge" is merely a way to garner publicity for his magic act.

Whilst we're on the subject of challenges, I'm still waiting for a response to a conundrum I posed to Mr Callahan several months ago. When it comes to his challenge, is he the challenger, or the challengee? His website doesn't make it quite clear. It appears, if Jim had his way, that he would set the rules and conditions for a test that he would then undertake. Seems akin to a school boy setting the questions for his own exams...

Chris

[rjh01]

All of that and no proof I ever said I had Paranormal powers?

Jim

Personal insults?

What are you talking about?

I make very specific claims on my site. Now I have made it clear I claim no Paranormal power.

How hard a fact is that to understand?

Do you really not?

Jim

If I may, here is the clip where Callahan got, for lack of a better phrase, "uber pwnd" by Criss Angel, for those newcomers who don't know who this man is:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8kAdZcbfiGY

<snip>


This video is very interesting. It shows that the claim that Jim Callahan has never claimed Paranormal powers is false.

Why should anyone employ Jim Callahan to go on stage or TV when anyone can find such documentation on the web?


Edit. Maybe that is why Jim is on the forums. He is unemployed and unemployable.

[TheSkepticCanuck]

How about I write my father's name on a piece of paper, get an envelope, and some salt. I take a picture of it also and pm it to someone here. I'll put the name and some salt in the envelope. You take the same amount of time you did on Phenomenom and let us know.

How does that sound?

Gee, can I take a stab at it? Based on what I saw on Phenomenon, I should be able to do as well as Jim did.

Here is what my spirit assistant said to me:

"rectangle paper writing"

How did I do?

[Jim Callahan]

This video is very interesting. It shows that the claim that Jim Callahan has never claimed Paranormal powers is false.

Why should anyone employ Jim Callahan to go on stage or TV when anyone can find such documentation on the web?


Edit. Maybe that is why Jim is on the forums. He is unemployed and unemployable.

Were in the video do I?

You brought it up now prove your point.

To your other point I am on this forum becouse it is fun for me and my staff.


Well see ya in a few have agood time,

Jim

H.O.,A-X

[Tricky]

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