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CHF
26th September 2008, 02:13 PM
Although, dare I say, not in the way they'd have liked to.

Dion drops candidate over controversial remarks (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080926.welexstepdown0926/BNStory/politics/home)

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion has dismissed a Winnipeg candidate who wrote that Israeli companies renting offices at the World Trade Center in 2001 vacated them beforehand because they had advance warning of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Of all the twoofer talking points to spout...

Tsk, tsk, tsk....

1337m4n
26th September 2008, 02:19 PM
I commend a Truther for actually doing something other than post on the Internet! too bad she still lacked facts and evidence...

Walter Ego
26th September 2008, 04:25 PM
Although, dare I say, not in the way they'd have liked to.

Dion drops candidate over controversial remarks (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080926.welexstepdown0926/BNStory/politics/home)



Of all the twoofer talking points to spout...

Tsk, tsk, tsk....


And she’s unrepentant, too.

Liberal candidate stands by 9/11 remarks

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=839387

Here’s part of the text of the blog post that got her in trouble.

German Intelligence (BND) claims to have warned the U.S. last June, the Israeli Mossad and Russian Intelligence in August. Israeli businesses, which had offices in the Towers, vacated the premises a week before the attacks, breaking their lease to do it. About 3000 Americans working there were not so lucky.

Ironically, the stock market was also warning anyone who cared to notice that something peculiar was afoot: in the week prior to Sept. 11, unknown speculator(s) were suddenly betting that the stocks of United Airlines and American Airlines were going to fall in value; the trades were placed through Deutschebank/AB Brown, a firm formerly managed by Buzzy-Krongard, now executive director of the CIA.

More at
http://members.shaw.ca/mclachla/page3.htm

She was also a panelist at a truther conference with Barrie Zwicker in Winnipeg in 2007.

Following Mr. Zwicker was a local media panel including Dallas Hansen, previously an opinion-editorial columnist at the Winnipeg Free Press, Jim Sanders, independent documentary filmmaker and current columnist for the Uptown Weekly, and Leslie Hughes, veteran journalist and broadcaster formerly with the CBC and the Winnipeg Sun and currently serving as an editor of Canadian Dimension.
http://stoplying.ca/articles/07/june/060207joeevent.php

T.A.M.
26th September 2008, 04:26 PM
9/11 truth, ruining lives and careers one person at a time.

TAM

MarkyX
26th September 2008, 04:28 PM
Glad she's out. We have too many retards running our country anyways.

gmanontario
26th September 2008, 05:20 PM
As much as I think Dion is a complete weenie, he did the right thing here. His campaign is lame enough without nutty truthers ruining it some more.

CHF
26th September 2008, 05:25 PM
I hope she runs as an independent.

Then we'll see if she can break the TM's spectacular 0% success rate of getting people elected.

Cl1mh4224rd
26th September 2008, 05:34 PM
9/11 truth, ruining lives and careers one person at a time.


Just not the ones they intend...

Horatius
26th September 2008, 07:16 PM
I hope she runs as an independent.

Then we'll see if she can break the TM's spectacular 0% success rate of getting people elected.


There's no need for that. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Action_Party)



The CAP endorses a controversial conspiracy theory that the United States intentionally allowed the attacks on September 11th to take place. At its 2006 convention, CAP passed a motion calling for a Royal Commission to investigate the September 11, 2001 attacks and Canada's participation in Afghanistan. CAP believes that the truth of what really happened on September 11, 2001 has not been told, however, Canadians have been subject to anti-terrorism laws and security agreements, such as Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), that have compromised Canadian sovereignty and civil rights. It also calls for a moratorium on anti-terrorist legislation to be reexamined only after receiving the results of that Royal Commission's investigation.


http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/home.html


The one party I know I won't vote for.

Well, them and the Commies ;)

AJM8125
26th September 2008, 07:24 PM
My comments:

1. It's only a matter of time before some troofer claims the Joos are controlling Canadian Politics too and:

2. Somebody should have started a rumor that Bush is a truther.

Gord_in_Toronto
26th September 2008, 07:37 PM
My comments:

1. It's only a matter of time before some troofer claims the Joos are controlling Canadian Politics too and:

Oh come on. How long have you lived here? :boggled:
Truthism and antisemitism go together like beer and snowmobilers.

2. Somebody should have started a rumor that Bush is a truther.

You mean that's not true? :confused:

stilicho
26th September 2008, 07:45 PM
Glad she's out. We have too many retards running our country anyways.

It isn't only the Liberals who've been infected:

http://jasoncherniak.blogspot.com/2008/09/is-jack-layton-supporting-911.html

There is a strong correlation between 9/11 "truthers" here in Canada and support for both the NDP and "Green" Party. Some of them do slip into the Liberals and Conservatives but most of the politically active ones seem to be on the fringe.

These people ought to have their credentials for public office challenged more often but they don't.

As we do have a Canadian federal election on OCT 14, I would be pleased if some of the debunkers here approached the local newspapers of such candidates to ask them to clarify their positions.

AJM8125
26th September 2008, 07:59 PM
Oh come on. How long have you lived here?
Truthism and antisemitism go together like beer and snowmobilers.





I don't live in Canada. I'm in California, where truthism and anti-semitism go together like white wine and hybrids.

MarkyX
26th September 2008, 08:15 PM
As we do have a Canadian federal election on OCT 14, I would be pleased if some of the debunkers here approached the local newspapers of such candidates to ask them to clarify their positions.


We don't really need to.

The Toronto Sun has been criticizing all parties lately, but moreso on Jack Layton due to his recent embracement of an Islamic extremist groups into his fold.

To add more salt to the injury, the NDP does have a reputation among Canadians as being out of touch.

Case in point, Jack wants to completely abolish private healthcare, as in government is in complete control of healthcare. In fact, many of the policies the NDP seems to take a stance on is somewhere along the lines of "huge *********** government". It's amazing 9/11 deniers love Ron Paul for his "keep government small" position, but here they are cheering a Canadian political party that would love to turn Canada into a communist state.

Hell, I still have nightmares about the NDP provincial government controlling Ontario. Their economic changes nearly destroyed the Ontario economy and almost took the entire country with them (for the uninitiated: Ontario holds a lot of weight to the Canadian economy).

It doesn't surprise me at all that Jack Layton might be into 9/11 denialism. Again, he is completely out of touch on how the world works, hasn't provided any proof that he would be a good leader, and has demonstrated his betrayal of Canadian interests when he associates with extremists groups that want to change our laws and how we live.

tl;dr Screw Jack Layton.

CHF
26th September 2008, 08:25 PM
http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/home.html

The one party I know I won't vote for.

That's the party Doub Plumb of AE911 ran for earlier this year.

He got 97 votes out of 24,000+.

stilicho
26th September 2008, 08:25 PM
We don't really need to.

Ordinarily I'd agree with you. The reason I don't is that these individuals probably will be re-elected.

I imagine you might be from a part of Canada where the NDP is weak and unelectable. I am not. It's a big country and we ought to work together to expose the liars and the frauds wherever possible.

I am not a debunker but merely an interested bystander. You could do a much better job than I in ensuring that nobody would ever stand up as our elected representative and proceed to read lies in our House Of Commons.

MarkyX
26th September 2008, 08:30 PM
I imagine you might be from a part of Canada where the NDP is weak and unelectable. I am not. It's a big country and we ought to work together to expose the liars and the frauds wherever possible.


True, but again, since I am in Ontario, a lot of seats are run by us...

And we still haven't forgotten what NDP has done to us. The only demograph I see voting for them are mainly students and stoners, sometimes both.

Gord_in_Toronto
26th September 2008, 08:33 PM
I don't live in Canada. I'm in California, where truthism and anti-semitism go together like white wine and hybrids.

Ah! Eh. :D

stilicho
26th September 2008, 08:42 PM
True, but again, since I am in Ontario, a lot of seats are run by us...

And we still haven't forgotten what NDP has done to us. The only demograph I see voting for them are mainly students and stoners, sometimes both.

Once you get past Thunder Bay you are in a different world. It is fertile ground for conspiracy theories. There's a reason for that, of course.

I've never been to Toronto and I often joke to people that, therefore, it doesn't exist. If you only see it on television--how can you know?

My argument with you, being that you are a debunker, is to convert your passivism among comfortable surroundings into activism among foreign surroundings. Every one of those people on the site I showed you are highly visible--even respected--politicians. Why shouldn't their media outlets be shown the consequences of their beliefs or suspicions? I can't do it since I am not a debunker.

But you are.

gmanontario
26th September 2008, 08:43 PM
I was approached by a Green candidate on my way to work at the train station. I asked her what she thought of 9/11 truthers and to her credit, she said they were nothing but at best sociopathic troublemakers and at worst bald-faced liars.

I thanked her for her honest opinion but then told her I had to leave because my wife is waiting to pick me up and the Hummer uses a lot of gas idling. :D

Again to her credit she laughed. I'm still not voting Greenie though.

njslim
26th September 2008, 10:36 PM
Once you get past Thunder Bay you are in a different world. It is fertile ground for conspiracy theories. There's a reason for that, of course.


Must be the cold doing it ...

Surprised somewhat is Liberal Party member spouting off, more likely NDP person as
they are far left, anti -American

Glad my grandparents had enough sense to defect, ah I mean emigrate South (from
Quebec and New Brunswick) to the good ol USA. Much warmer down here....

Gord_in_Toronto
27th September 2008, 07:38 AM
True, but again, since I am in Ontario, a lot of seats are run by us...

And we still haven't forgotten what NDP has done to us. The only demograph I see voting for them are mainly students and stoners, sometimes both.

Let me guess. Retired Ontario Civil Servant? Right? :eek:

Corsair 115
28th September 2008, 04:18 PM
...(for the uninitiated: Ontario holds a lot of weight to the Canadian economy)... To use another perspective, Ontario accounts for 38.8% of the population of the country (12.9 million out of 33.2 million as of official 2008 estimates).

That'd be the equivalent of the most populous U.S. state having a population of 118 million.

Screw Jack Layton.I can't remember what it was, but something during the last federal election made it clear to me that Jack Layton is a weasel. The fact that during the current campaign he whined about negative Conservative ads then proceeded to defend his own negative ads reinforced my perception of him as a weasel.