9-11 Blackshirts

[Thunder]

The pre-Nazis of Germany wore brownshirts. they harrassed Jews, trashed stores, marched around in stupid uniforms, and liked to yell through bullhorns. they dreamt of cleansing their society of undesirable political and ethnic groups. their targets were jews, gypsies, socialists, freemasons, homosexuals, handicapped folks.

today, the 9-11 Blackshirts harrass people, wear stupid clothing, love to yell through bullhorns, and dream of "liberating" the country through revolution and "cleansing" the nation of undesirable political groups, ethnic groups, and others. their targets are the media, politicans, freemasons, illegal immigrants, zionists, socialists, liberals, republicans, etc.

[CHF]

While I don't think twoofers are modern day Nazis (OK, some of them are) I do find it ironic that they parade around in black shirts fighting "NWO fascism."

Are they not aware that Italian and UK fascists were called the "Blackshirts?"

Even without the WWII-fascist imagery, black t-shirts are just downright creepy!

[dudalb]

At least Mussolini's Black Shirts knew how to stage a revolution....something the Twoofers are clueless about.

[Thunder]

The only difference between the 9-11 Blackshirts of today and the German Brownshirts of 1928 is that the Germans focused on race and ethnicity while the 9-11 Blackshirts focus on politics and economics.

They both believe in a shadowy conspiracy governing the country and taking it to destruction. they both believe that jewish folks play a major part in it. they both hate freemason and socialists and gays and illegal immigrants.

I have NO DOUBT that if this country goes into a deep recession, or even a depression, the 9-11 Blackshirts will see it as their opportunity to take their "revolution" from the theoritical to the real..and it will be Kristillnacht 2009.

[MarkyX]

The only difference between the 9-11 Blackshirts of today and the German Brownshirts of 1928 is that the Germans focused on race and ethnicity while the 9-11 Blackshirts focus on politics and economics.


I agree, the similiarities between the two groups is undeniable. It seems they make great friends as well.

Just look at American Free Press, a huge jump start for the 9/11 deniers. Without them, no Alex Jones, Loose Change, DRG, and Steven Jones. Yet the writer is anti-semite and the owner of the paper is a holocaust denier.

Then we look at they believe is the "correct" way of running a country. Both oppose immigration heavily, both are very religious, both believe an unseen force is out to get them, both despise the west, both want to dictate how people run their lives, both wrote books about "their" struggle.

To confirm this even further, just look at Alex Jones on Iranian State TV. A "freedom fighter" on a television shown owned by the Iranian government. Not only this, but we are talking about the same Irainan government who doesn't believe the holocaust didn't happen, thinks Protocols of Zion is a real document, and stated they wanted to kill off the Jews.

Why is Alex Jones even associating himself with such people?

[T.A.M.]

The pre-Nazis of Germany wore brownshirts. they harrassed Jews, trashed stores, marched around in stupid uniforms, and liked to yell through bullhorns. they dreamt of cleansing their society of undesirable political and ethnic groups. their targets were jews, gypsies, socialists, freemasons, homosexuals, handicapped folks.

today, the 9-11 Blackshirts harrass people, wear stupid clothing, love to yell through bullhorns, and dream of "liberating" the country through revolution and "cleansing" the nation of undesirable political groups, ethnic groups, and others. their targets are the media, politicans, freemasons, illegal immigrants, zionists, socialists, liberals, republicans, etc.

While I think you are tarring with a very big, broad brush, I do see where the comparisons between the core truthers (like WAC, etc...) and the early Nazi movement can be made.

TAM:)

[Walter Ego]

While I think you are tarring with a very big, broad brush, I do see where the comparisons between the core truthers (like WAC, etc...) and the early Nazi movement can be made.

TAM:)

Yes, one major difference is that the Nazis had broad appeal in post WWI Germany and the party grew significantly in the 1920s after its founding in 1918.

Trutherism, on the other hand, has had only a fringe appeal and has actually been in decline after it peaked circular 2004-2006.

And of course the truthers lack a charismatic leader like Hitler.

(Sorry, Alex, it’s true.:D)

[CHF]

It must be said though that Alex Jones does his very best to emulate the Fascist rulers of old.

Yelling and screaming, waving his fists....he's like Hitler on LSD!

[Quad4_72]

While yes there are similarities, I don't think we need to be worried about twoofers converting too many people to their cause. Nazi Germany pre WWII was a very different place than America is today. Plus people are much more educated nowadays and can see right through the twoofies obvious lies.

[dudalb]

Just look at American Free Press, a huge jump start for the 9/11 deniers. Without them, no Alex Jones, Loose Change, DRG, and Steven Jones. Yet the writer is anti-semite and the owner of the paper is a holocaust denier.

The AFP is just the infamous Neo Nazi Hate Sheet "The Spotlight" with a name change.
And calling Willis Carto just a Holocaust Denier is way too kind. The guy is a full fledged Neo Nazi.
And that the truth movement is so chummy with the AFP should tell you something.
No,not all twoofers are Anti Semites or Neo Nazis, but that they welcome them into the movement with open arms just shows the stupdity and bunkruptcy of the Truth Movement.

[gumboot]

I don't think you can make the comparison. Comparing 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists with the SA merely ignores the real horror of what the SA did, and is a great disservice to the victims of their terror.

The SA destroyed property and violently attacked and killed people in large numbers. The worst that Conspiracy Theorists have done is harass people and make fools of themselves. G8 protesters are infinitely worse.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I have NO DOUBT that if this country goes into a deep recession, or even a depression, the 9-11 Blackshirts will see it as their opportunity to take their "revolution" from the theoritical to the real..and it will be Kristillnacht 2009.

I highly doubt it. While the twoofers talk of violence too much for there never to be one or more major incidents of twoofer violence, one must remember that twoofers here in the west are inherently lazy. Which is why their activities never really translate into something outside their internet safe havens. If it doesn't involve sitting on their slowly spreading Cheeto™ inflated asses, they won't get involved.

I don't think we will see anything more than a mere handful of incidents at worst. Those incidents that do occur, if they get any media attention at all, will be used to turn them into bigger paraiahs than they already are. Resulting in closer scrutiny by both the general public and possibly formal surveilance by law enforcement. Which would in turn stifle further twoofer violence.

[RedIbis]

I don't think you can make the comparison. Comparing 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists with the SA merely ignores the real horror of what the SA did, and is a great disservice to the victims of their terror.

The SA destroyed property and violently attacked and killed people in large numbers. The worst that Conspiracy Theorists have done is harass people and make fools of themselves. G8 protesters are infinitely worse.

Whew, I was losing hope there would be a single voice of reason.

For everyone else, not your best showing.

[Thunder]

I think believing that Truthers would stay relatively peaceful if the economy went to hell and times got real tough..is like believing that Ahmedinajad doesn't hate Israel.

The truthers are hungry for a revolution and will jump on it when they think the time is right.

[MarkyX]

The SA destroyed property and violently attacked and killed people in large numbers. The worst that Conspiracy Theorists have done is harass people and make fools of themselves. G8 protesters are infinitely worse.

SA got away with it because they were the authority. On the other hand, 9/11 deniers do not.

Let's just say we gave 9/11 deniers the position of power. They can do whatever they want without getting into "legal" trouble...

Would you trust them?

[Slayhamlet]

SA got away with it because they were the authority. On the other hand, 9/11 deniers do not.

Let's just say we gave 9/11 deniers the position of power. They can do whatever they want without getting into "legal" trouble...

Would you trust them?

The SA were doing some of those things long before they had any official state authority. Of course, the ability of law enforcement to suppress paramilitary organizations was far weaker in the Weimar Republic than it is in the United States of today. When twoofers start forming militias (or ingratiating themselves significantly within the currently moribund US militia movement), then the comparison with the SA will be more apt. But right now the historical parallels just aren't there.

[MaGZ]

Who are theses Blackshirts of today? Are they Alex Jones followers? Anarchists?

I suspect if you ask them about “Nazis” today, they would probably be the first to pin the label on Bush and Cheney.

[MaGZ]

The AFP is just the infamous Neo Nazi Hate Sheet "The Spotlight" with a name change.
And calling Willis Carto just a Holocaust Denier is way too kind. The guy is a full fledged Neo Nazi.
And that the truth movement is so chummy with the AFP should tell you something.
No,not all twoofers are Anti Semites or Neo Nazis, but that they welcome them into the movement with open arms just shows the stupdity and bunkruptcy of the Truth Movement.

Willis Carto

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Willis_A._Carto

[MaGZ]

I don't think you can make the comparison. Comparing 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists with the SA merely ignores the real horror of what the SA did, and is a great disservice to the victims of their terror.

The SA destroyed property and violently attacked and killed people in large numbers. The worst that Conspiracy Theorists have done is harass people and make fools of themselves. G8 protesters are infinitely worse.

You could say the same for the communist thugs that fought with the SA. This was a period of political warfare in the streets of Germany.

There is no comparison with the Truth Movement in America.

[MaGZ]

I think believing that Truthers would stay relatively peaceful if the economy went to hell and times got real tough..is like believing that Ahmedinajad doesn't hate Israel.

The truthers are hungry for a revolution and will jump on it when they think the time is right.

If the Truthers were thought to be a threat to America then you would find the ADL and the SPLC issuing bulletins and statements saying so.

[beachnut]

If the Truthers were thought to be a threat to America then you would find the ADL and the SPLC issuing bulletins and statements saying so.

They are only a threat to knowledge, logic, rational thought, physics, math, and science.
Only people who share an anti-intellectual approach to 9/11, like making up lies, and spew false information with no evidence, join these groups truth group to help spread lies. Good you never fall for lies like missiles and other doltish ideas.

[Mince]

They are only a threat to knowledge, logic, rational thought, physics, math, and science.


It's amusing that the truthers say they believe corporate America and the U.S. Government killed 3,000 of its own citizens and is now trying to kill and/or enslave millions more, yet most of them still buy corporate America's products, work for corporate America and give a portion of their income, via taxes, to the U.S. Government. Isn't that accessory?

[gumboot]

SA got away with it because they were the authority. On the other hand, 9/11 deniers do not.

Let's just say we gave 9/11 deniers the position of power. They can do whatever they want without getting into "legal" trouble...

Would you trust them?



It may be quite true that Conspiracy Theorists would be as bad (or even worse) than the SA. Frankly, I suspect most SA members started out as pretty decent normal people, keen to support their party. An important lesson about Nazi Germany was that otherwise regular decent intelligent people bought into their garbage.

In that regard, the 9/11 Truth Movement are quite possibly worse than the SA.

But that comes down to speculating about what they would do. That's a different kettle of fish. There's a gaping chasm of difference between a group of people who might do something if hypothetically given the opportunity and a group of people who actually did it.

I just don't think making those comparisons is useful. There are ample numbers of groups that have similar behaviour to Conspiracy Theorists. What makes groups like the SA and SS so horrible is what they actually did.

To me it's akin to comparing a husband who shouts at his wife with a husband who beat his wife to death with a crow bar. Yes, the basic dynamic has fundamental similarities, but ultimately they're just not comparable.

[Mancman]

I think believing that Truthers would stay relatively peaceful if the economy went to hell and times got real tough..is like believing that Ahmedinajad doesn't hate Israel.

The truthers are hungry for a revolution and will jump on it when they think the time is right.

They aren't going to do anything. They are too few, they have little to no offline presence because most of them don't really care. Most of them are teenagers. Those that are truly insane and believe they can lead a revolution, are far too pathetic to do so.

You really are overestimating these people.

[T.A.M.]

Whew, I was losing hope there would be a single voice of reason.

For everyone else, not your best showing.

Sorry to disappoint Red, but there are some striking similarities. I am not suggesting that the core truthers would ever amount to, or try to become a Nazi like organization. I think it is clear, however, that there are common characteristics between the two.

TAM:)

[DC]

yeah we are the new Nazis .... :rolleyes:

[MarkyX]

yeah we are the new Nazis .... :rolleyes:

I never said you were, just showing the same type of behavior patterns between the two.

So explain to me why Alex Jones appeared in a government owned station, the same government that executes homosexuals, beats women for not "dressing" properly, believes the holocaust didn't happen, and said they wanted kill off the Jews?

I thought Alex was for freedom.

[DC]

I never said you were, just showing the same type of behavior patterns between the two.

So explain to me why Alex Jones appeared in a government owned station, the same government that executes homosexuals, beats women for not "dressing" properly, believes the holocaust didn't happen, and said they wanted kill off the Jews?

I thought Alex was for freedom.

Bolding the false information.

and since when is AJ credible?
and AJ was in Iran? or about who are you talking?

do you know who this is?
http://dailytalk.blueblog.ch/files/images/2008/3/mob165_1205780468.jpg

[MarkyX]

and since when is AJ credible?


He isn't, hence why 9/11 deniers use him.


and AJ was in Iran?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=947535616091162334&hl=en

[DC]

He isn't, hence why 9/11 deniers use him.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=947535616091162334&hl=en

i dont use him, i avoid him :)

didnt know that video, i almsot didnt regognize him without the bullhorn. :D

[Travis]

Ironically the Brownshirts were destroyed by the very institution they put in power. Likewise we already see schisms within the Truth Movement that have developed into fierce animosity. Would "No-Planers" be sent off to "re-education" camps in a Truther run world? Or would the "No-Planers" seize power in a coup and persecute those that think they are nuts?

However I agree with Gumboot that it is really disingenuous to compare a hypothetical with historical fact.

[CHF]

All I know is that if twoofers ever took power in North America a lot of people would be killed.

Think about it....

They accuse thousands of government workers, engineers, aviation experts, 9/11 eyewitnesses, and firefighters of being either conspirators or liars.

They accuse debunkers of being "agents" working on behalf of the conspirators.

They accuse fellow twoofers of being "COINTELPRO" or "disinfo."

Average citizens are referred to as "sheeple."

In a nutshell, they consider vast swaths of the population to be either conspirators or collaborators in a false flag attack designed to plunge America into a police state, in which people like the twoofers would be rounded up and put into camps.

Such sick paranoia, if given power, would translate into a purge of society that would rival the work of Stalin and Pol Pot.

[Thunder]

judging from William Rhea's interesting attraction to me over at LC...i think I would be the first person he would choose to gas if they ever did take over America.

truthers...you are embryonic nazis. we only accuse you of this because of what you do...and what you say.

if you "confronted" people with a little more respect and tact, and didnt think that the country is taken over by an evil conspiracy of freemasom illuminati zionists (just as the nazis thought), we wouldnt think so harshly of you.

[DC]

judging from William Rhea's interesting attraction to me over at LC...i think I would be the first person he would choose to gas if they ever did take over America.

truthers...you are embryonic nazis. we only accuse you of this because of what you do...and what you say.

if you "confronted" people with a little more respect and tact, and didnt think that the country is taken over by an evil conspiracy of freemasom illuminati zionists (just as the nazis thought), we wouldnt think so harshly of you.

which truthers do you mean? those that claim it was not an inside job, but a jew job? or truthers in general?

[Thunder]

any truther who believes its ok to harrass, insult, defame, slander, etc...supossed 9-11 perps. any truther who believes that the world and the usa is being taken over by an evil conspiracy of freemason/illuminati/zionist/neo-con/european bankers. any truther who believes that the country is full of nwo shills and agents of the nwo conspiracy. any truther who believes that if you think the official story is true and defends that belief is a nwo shill and will be punished for such crimes. any truther who believes that there will soon be a a grand revolution in the USA and all nwo/illuminati/zionist/freemason/european bankers will be cleansed from our society...and all official story defenders will share their fate or be re-educated.

which is basically...most truthers.

now, if you are one of the few truthers, who believes that 9-11 was carried out by a very small conspiracy, and that those of us who defend the official story simply have a different point of view and like a good debater, defend such point of view and are not an evil NSA/CIA/Mossad agent, then you are o.k. in my book.

[DC]

thanks for clearing that up for me

[Thunder]

so, do you think we are evil nwo/nsa/illuminati/freemason/zionist shill agents?..

or do you have the self esteem to admit that we are just americans with a different point of view who vehemently defend that point of view..like a good american would?

[DC]

so, do you think we are evil nwo/nsa/illuminati/freemason/zionist shill agents?..

or do you have the self esteem to admit that we are just americans with a different point of view who vehemently defend that point of view..like a good american would?

i will sure not admit you are just americans...... that would be a lie i hope.....

there are many people from all over the world here, with alot diffrent views.
did i ever call you shill?
sometimes i like to use, Bushlovers, to point out genersalisations. but a few reads in the politics section pretty much debunks that :)

[Thunder]

so, i take it, that you will give us the benefit of the doubt that we simply have a different point of view..and are not PAID to do what we do and think what we think?

if that is the case..then my opinion of you will grow tremendously

i honestly do not believe that truthers are terrorists, or al qaeda shills. that would be silly. yet many of you think we are secret mossad/illumaniti/nwo agents. which is very insulting and shows that many truthers simply cannot fathom others disagreeing with them without some sinister evil motive or funding.

and frankly, it shows a great deal of paranoia and emotional instability, to believe that those who disagree with you are somehow evil agents.

[DC]

i dont belive you are paid.

[Thunder]

i dont belive you are paid.

do yuo believe that we simply have a different..yet strong point of view and simply believe in defending it vehemently?

and im glad u noticed that many of us are not only not bush-lovers..but are indeed very much against bush and his many policies.

[DC]

do yuo believe that we simply have a different..yet strong point of view and simply believe in defending it vehemently?

and im glad u noticed that many of us are not only not bush-lovers..but are indeed very much against bush and his many policies.

how many time do you want me to say it?

[beachnut]

Bolding the false information.

and since when is AJ credible?
and AJ was in Iran? or about who are you talking?



Truthers can't pick their buddies, AJ is a big dumb truther, he is all yours.
As are all the doltish ideas pushed by all the truth movement, when you side up with some stupid ideas, like WTC7 having anything to with a bigger CT, then you get all the stupid piled on. Using WTC7 as part of a CT is the dumbest idea, as are all truth ideas. Pure stupid. You get brain-dead thermite scenario, the no plane dolt ideas, shoot down stupid stuff, it doesn't look like an airplane ignorance, and more.

[DC]

Truthers can't pick their buddies, AJ is a big dumb truther, he is all yours.
As are all the doltish ideas pushed by all the truth movement, when you side up with some stupid ideas, like WTC7 having anything to with a bigger CT, then you get all the stupid piled on. Using WTC7 as part of a CT is the dumbest idea, as are all truth ideas. Pure stupid. You get brain-dead thermite scenario, the no plane dolt ideas, shoot down stupid stuff, it doesn't look like an airplane ignorance, and more.



:boxedin:

[leonAzul]

Sorry, I see a closer affinity between Alex Jones and Jerry Rubin than Josef Goebbels.

[beachnut]

:boxedin:

That one gif (:boxedin:)sums up the entire package of evidence for the truth movement; Bravo.

With that massive gif of evidence, "ample evidence" comes the biggest action taken to date by 9/11 truth, wearing the traditional garb of the truth movement.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/standup.jpg

[DC]

That one gif (:boxedin:)sums up the entire package of evidence for the truth movement; Bravo.

With that massive gif of evidence, "ample evidence" comes the biggest action taken to date by 9/11 truth, wearing the traditional garb of the truth movement.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/standup.jpg


yeaah i always said we have a box full of evidence.

[PhantomWolf]

yeaah i always said we have a box full of evidence.

Would that be a matchbox?

[DC]

Would that be a matchbox?

sure, there is not enough space in my moms basement for bigger boxes :rolleyes:

[JihadJane]

Ho, hum! More unfortunate self-deprecating comedy from the politically naive leaders of the 911 Forgetting Movement. Hail parky76!

Note to parky76: Not all fascists look the same. Some of them look like you and me.

[DC]

http://zalandria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fascism.jpg

sometimes its not the T-Shirt

Removing Rule 10 breach, and also edited for hotlinking.

[cyclonic]

Dic cheney do you know star wars and the matrix are science-fiction movies?


http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=95103&rendTypeId=4


Fascism not obvious? must be going to a scout meeting hey.

[DC]

http://www.infokrieg.tv/quellmaterial/bush_hand.jpg

not always

[cyclonic]

http://www.infokrieg.tv/quellmaterial/bush_hand.jpg

not always

Mr bush is just showing how high his plants are, his corn crop.

[TexasJack]

All you have to do is sign up at one of their forums, openly oppose their POV, and you're banned. They are truly the biggest hypocrites I have ever witnessed; these people come right out of Animal Farm.

[CptColumbo]

What I find interesting is when members of the "twoof" Movement refer to those who disagree as "sheeple," yet their supporters wear the same colored shirt (usually with the same writing) march in a line and chant the same slogan (as they did on 9/11/06 for example).

[cyclonic]

What I find interesting is when members of the "twoof" Movement refer to those who disagree as "sheeple," yet their supporters wear the same colored shirt (usually with the same writing) march in a line and chant the same slogan (as they did on 9/11/06 for example).

They have the IQ of sheep too as shown in this video.

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This video was produced by "catrapesdog99"
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[Thunder]

Ho, hum! More unfortunate self-deprecating comedy from the politically naive leaders of the 911 Forgetting Movement. Hail parky76!

Note to parky76: Not all fascists look the same. Some of them look like you and me.

I do not seek to cleanse America of those who have political beliefs that I disagree with. 9-11 Truthers want to get rid of all Freemasons, Zionists, Neo-Cons, "Illumaniti", Globalists, etc etc.

Thats why they are indeed fascists..and I am indeed not.

[applecorped]

I'm paid. I got Lehman Brothers stock.

[Travis]

I'm paid. I got Lehman Brothers stock.

Ouch.

[JihadJane]

I do not seek to cleanse America of those who have political beliefs that I disagree with. 9-11 Truthers want to get rid of all Freemasons, Zionists, Neo-Cons, "Illumaniti", Globalists, etc etc.

Thats why they are indeed fascists..and I am indeed not.


I wasn't suggesting that you were a fascist.

What does your "to get rid of" mean in relation to "Truthers"? From your list it appears to have a political meaning rather than a "cleansing", gas chamber meaning...getting rid of capitalism ("globalists") might be a very good thing. Neutralising the political influence of "Freemasons, Zionists" and "Neo-Cons" might not be such a bad idea either.

[DC]

I do not seek to cleanse America of those who have political beliefs that I disagree with. 9-11 Truthers want to get rid of all Freemasons, Zionists, Neo-Cons, "Illumaniti", Globalists, etc etc.

Thats why they are indeed fascists..and I am indeed not.

and that is way generalisations are not working.

I for example do know freemasons, some in my family are freemasons. i dont want to get rid of them, nor do i suspect them of wanting to take over the world etc.

Nor do i want to get rid of the zionists. while i get labeled anti semite or anti zionist, i am actually in favor of zionism, i like Israel, i dont like the way of some politicans in israel, or the IDF, but i think Israel has a right to exist.
i did not see any sign that the Illuminati are still active, and btw, the Illuminati was almost something like the TM. Afaik was theyr goal to expose the evil deeds of the goverments.
yes i dislike the neo--cons,
yes i am against globalisation like it is done by the huge corporations, building factorys in the poorest countrys of the world, pay only minimal wages, and sell the product here for maximum profit. (I prefer this globalisation http://www.maxhavelaar.ch/en/homepage/ )

Labels dont work. i could gather some 100 posts from you about your critisism (which i often like) about Israel and claims look, the Debunkers are anti zionists.

[Thunder]

well, then you are a very unique Truther. =)

[Thunder]

Neutralising the political influence of "Freemasons, Zionists" and "Neo-Cons" might not be such a bad idea either.

how exactly do you plan on "neutralizing" the influence of these group? banning them from politics all together? forcing them to live in only a certain section of the usa?

just like what Hitler and Stalin did...right?

someone who truly believes in liberty, freedom, and democracy, would understand that you can defeat those you disagree with without having to ban them from politics. thats unless you want a totalitarian state..which many truthers indeed want.

[dudalb]

I wasn't suggesting that you were a fascist.

What does your "to get rid of" mean in relation to "Truthers"? From your list it appears to have a political meaning rather than a "cleansing", gas chamber meaning...getting rid of capitalism ("globalists") might be a very good thing. Neutralising the political influence of "Freemasons, Zionists" and "Neo-Cons" might not be such a bad idea either.



http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1884048ca062020e8b.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13773)


Let's get rid of capitalism . Wonderful idea. After all , the alternative system worked so freaking well in the Soviet Union and Cambodia.
And the Freemasons have a political agenda??????

[JihadJane]

how exactly do you plan on "neutralizing" the influence of these group? banning them from politics all together? forcing them to live in only a certain section of the usa?

just like what Hitler and Stalin did...right?

someone who truly believes in liberty, freedom, and democracy, would understand that you can defeat those you disagree with without having to ban them from politics. thats unless you want a totalitarian state..which many truthers indeed want.

I haven't got a plan nor do I want to ban anyone from politics.

Let's get rid of capitalism . Wonderful idea. After all , the alternative system worked so freaking well in the Soviet Union and Cambodia.

Capitalism is collapsing. Infinite growth is impossible. We'll probably have to return to something more local.

[Travis]

Capitalism is collapsing. Infinite growth is impossible. We'll probably have to return to something more local.

Like trading bushels of gathered berries for wagon wheels. That's pretty damned local.

[dudalb]

Like trading bushels of gathered berries for wagon wheels. That's pretty damned local.


Yeah, the Middle Ages Rocked!

[Thunder]

Capitalism is collapsing. Infinite growth is impossible. We'll probably have to return to something more local.

No, capitalism is NOT collapsing. We simply need a lot more over sight, regulations, and protections, to make sure what happened with the mortgage market never happens again.

Capitalism is broken..but it can be repaired.

[JoeyDonuts]

Didn't Hitler order the most of the high-ranking SA apparatus murdered in order to satisfy certain elements in the Reichstag who thought they were getting a bit out of hand?

If I remember my studies correctly, the main guy they were after was found in bed with a 15-year old boy.

It does beg the question though - What happens to the revolutionaries after the revolution?

In Castro's case, they all get to be just as hungry and miserable as everyone else.

[JoeyDonuts]

Yeah, the Middle Ages Rocked!

OOOH!!! We could replace funeral homes with....

http://www.glossynews.com/artman/uploads/bring_out_your_dead.jpg

[JihadJane]

Like trading bushels of gathered berries for wagon wheels. That's pretty damned local.

Time will tell.

Investing in wheelbarrows to carry all those worthless dollars to the bread queue might be sensible!

[Travis]

Yeah, the Middle Ages Rocked!

Haven't you been to a Renaissance Faire? Ample good tasting food, balmy weather, buxom ladies with low cut tops and archery/jousting competitions all the time, things were good then. I mean it's not like people were constantly battling malnutrition and disease dying of old age at 41 if they weren't dispatched by their local monarch or church inquisition first.

Didn't Hitler order the most of the high-ranking SA apparatus murdered in order to satisfy certain elements in the Reichstag who thought they were getting a bit out of hand?

If I remember my studies correctly, the main guy they were after was found in bed with a 15-year old boy.

It does beg the question though - What happens to the revolutionaries after the revolution?

In Castro's case, they all get to be just as hungry and miserable as everyone else.

Night of the Long Knives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_long_knives). I mentioned it back in post #31.;)

[JoeyDonuts]

Night of the Long Knives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_long_knives). I mentioned it back in post #31.;)

Whoops-a-doodle. Must have missed it. I work overnights and do most of my JREFing at the same time i'm operating two TV stations simultaneously.

I must have been startled by Billy Mays yelling at me.

I really do love the Renaissance Faire, though. All of the cleavage baring-bustiers and roasted animal appendages of the Middle Ages - with none of the cholera! Huzzah!

Makes me want to pay a carnie in a jester outfit 5 bucks to throw three ninja stars at a piece of plywood - and then buy an overpriced low-quality samurai sword.