View Full Version : The most ironic thing about truthers
CHF
27th September 2008, 08:02 PM
"Think for yourself!"
"Don't blindly accept what you're told!"
"Don't just accept authority!"
Or so, the truthers tell us.
In their view, the average person (ie. those who disagree with them) are brain-dead "sheep" who do as they're instructed and accept whatever is told to them by the powers that be.
Truthers, meanwhile, are "freethinkers" who never stop asking questions until they've discovered the TRUTH.
But if that's the case then why do truthers mindlessly parrot every claim they hear from TM videos without question?
Do they not see the irony of dismissing the "official story" out of hand while accepting TM claims on faith?
If they actually did have some degree of independent thought they wouldn't still be claiming that no hijackers were on the manifests.
They wouldn't be using the Madrid fire of 2005 to prove that fire cannot cause steel structures to collapse.
They wouldn't still be insisting there was no wreckage of a plane at the Pentagon.
Whenever I talk to truthers its painfully obvious that they're hearing every counterpoint for the first time. Indeed their research rarely, if ever, goes beyond the source that convinced them of the "truth."
In light of this no-questions-asked approach to TM sources how do truthers muster up the gall to call themselves truthseekers and freethinkers?
Even if their opposition did blindly accept everything they were told.....how are truthers any different?
Mince
27th September 2008, 08:21 PM
Agreed. What are they but sheep brainwashed by Alex Jones. The most telling fact is how most of the truthers know what happened to WTC 7, despite never having left their keyboards to investigate its collapse; and agree with almost everything Alex Jones says...having never left their keyboards. Hang out on the PrisonPlanet forum, or the "comment" section in individual articles, for a few days and you see what I'm talking about. Most of them knew the recent NIST report on the collapse of WTC 7 was BS, days before it was released. Is there anything more telling?
But the biggest irony, and the one I like most, is the one in which they support those they think are murderers. Most truthers think the U.S. Government, aided by corporate America, killed 3,000 of its own citizens and is now trying to kill and/or enslave millions more. So....what do you do when you think someone is trying to kill you? Why, you work for them and give them your money of course. Despite what truthers believe, most of them work for corporate America, buy corporate America's products, and give money, via taxes, to the U.S. Government. Well, if the U.S. Government is setting up FEMA camps, they're using truther money to do so. Not only do they not revolt against such extreme tyranny, they aid and abet it. It seems they'd rather be dead than unemployed. It also seems they'd rather type on message boards instead of taking meaningful action to stop the imminent destruction of their lives and liberties. However, I believe, regardless of what they say on a message board, and despite the immediacy and severity of the situation (as they would have you believe), that they don't actually fear for their lives and liberties enough to leave their computer chair and "take back their country." Even though they hear Alex Jones say it on the radio, they havn't seen it in practice. There havn't actually been American Nazi Stormtroopers come to their house to rape and kill their children. And the ones who truly would revolt probably don't because they know that most of civil America would be against them. There's so many intriguing facets to their mindset that it's difficult to explore them all in one post, or even one thread. These, for me, are just the most interesting.
CHF
28th September 2008, 06:31 AM
Yeah I always get a kick out of how truthers pay taxes to the very government which they claim is out to imprison and slaughter them.
One almost gets the impression that deep down they don't really believe their own nonsense; as if their "truth-seeking" is just part of a sick fantasy designed to give meaning to an otherwise meaningless life.
CptColumbo
28th September 2008, 06:37 AM
Sometimes irony can be pretty ironic.
tomwaits
28th September 2008, 08:40 AM
The ironing is delicious.
Thunder
28th September 2008, 03:44 PM
No. The most ironic thing about truthers is that they want to put all Freemasons, Zionists, Neo-Cons, Republicans, Conservatives, Illuminati, and others..into detention camps..or worse.
Mince
28th September 2008, 07:14 PM
No. The most ironic thing about truthers is that they want to put all Freemasons, Zionists, Neo-Cons, Republicans, Conservatives, Illuminati, and others..into detention camps..or worse.
After having watched YouTube videos and done Google searches. Scary stuff.
Homeland Insurgency
28th September 2008, 07:50 PM
After having watched YouTube videos and done Google searches. Scary stuff.
The most ironic thing about debunkers here in this sub-forum is the lack of actual debunking of anything at all.
Mince
28th September 2008, 08:41 PM
The most ironic thing about debunkers here in this sub-forum is the lack of actual debunking of anything at all.
Even if true, it's still quite tame compared to people wanting to hang and imprison people after having watched YouTube videos and done Google searches. If that's what you find the most ironic about this message board, and you dislike it, how destestful you must be of truthers who want to hang and imprison people after YouTube videos and Google searches. How you must hate how truthers think corporate America and the U.S. Government are evil and murderous, yet still give their labor and money to these organizations.
Homeland Insurgency
28th September 2008, 08:46 PM
Even if true, it's still quite tame compared to people wanting to hang and imprison people after having watched YouTube videos and done Google searches.
Excuse me. I missed you actually debunking anything there.
Mince
28th September 2008, 08:48 PM
Excuse me. I missed you actually debunking anything there.
You also didn't see me calling for the death of someone after mere YouTube videos and Google searches. You also won't find me giving my labor and my money to organizations who commit murder and wish to enslave people.
jaydeehess
29th September 2008, 04:36 PM
Irony is TC accepting the PfT 11.2 G calculations and adhereing to the "Don't blindly accept what you're told!" + "Don't just accept authority!" ideal.
Irony is having a 'truther' on 'The Blackvault' call for extra-judicial executions upon the success of the revolution because the present government system executes and imprisons people improperly.
firecoins
29th September 2008, 05:38 PM
The most ironic thing about debunkers here in this sub-forum is the lack of actual debunking of anything at all.
every so called "theory" put fourth by 9/11 truth movement has been debunked dozens of times over. We are tired of disproving the miraculous placing of explosives in the WTC which got there by magic, the switch of planes and faked phone calls by using facts, logic and critical thinking.
eromitlab
29th September 2008, 06:37 PM
The irony exists in those truthists who are calling for imprisonment and worse for the stars of their fantasy conspiracy, anyone they've already convicted of assisting them, "defenders of the official conspiracy theory", anyone who's ever disagreed with them on a forum and for that matter, anyone who's ever expressed disagreement with truthism at any point.
Most if not all of them also claim to love their country as envisioned by the Founding Fathers and its Constitution. They believe the country has been pulled well off track and the Constitution has been violated, and they want their country to return to that.
So... which article of the Constitution allows for the petty, vengeful dictatorship they want to set up? 'Cause I've read through that thing like a dozen times, and I can't find it anywhere.
jaydeehess
30th September 2008, 04:33 PM
every so called "theory" put fourth by 9/11 truth movement, despite the various and sometimes mutually exclusive wide range of TM theories out there, has been debunked dozens of times over. We are tired of disproving the miraculous placing of explosives in the WTC which got there by magic, the switch of planes and faked phone calls by using facts, logic and critical thinking.
Fixed that for you FC
VespaGuy
30th September 2008, 08:27 PM
What's the difference between a sheep and a truther?
One travels in flocks, has white wool, and says "baa. baa. baa"
The other follows the herd, has a black shirt, and yells "sheep! sheep! sheep!"
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