New experiment proves that the collapse was not possible

[Lennart Hyland]

Truthers will go wild over this! :D

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[PhantomWolf]

Truthers will go wild over this! :D

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Spooked's rabbit cage is far from new, check the date, 2005!

[Grizzly Bear]

Truthers will go wild over this! :D

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LOL saw this back in August :D

[defaultdotxbe]

thats nothing, check out his follow-up experiment

http://wtcmodel.blogspot.com/2006/12/121006.html

[Lennart Hyland]

Oh...I havent seen it before :P I got from a truther site right now... I guess they are just as late as I am.

Well close this then.

[Mince]

The collapse not possible? So, what, the buildings are still standing there? Hmmm. Interesting. Really, how many people actually went to New York City to confirm the buildings aren't there anymore? Maybe we're relying too heavily on YouTube videos ourselves.

[Lennart Hyland]

The collapse not possible? So, what, the buildings are still standing there? Hmmm. Interesting. Really, how many people actually went to New York City to confirm the buildings aren't there anymore? Maybe we're relying too heavily on YouTube videos ourselves.

I think what the truthers are meaning is that the collapse was not possible without the help of CD.

[Mince]

thats nothing, check out his follow-up experiment

http://wtcmodel.blogspot.com/2006/12/121006.html


Man, that would make a killer rat cage. You don't happen to have Spooked's contact info?

[Mince]

I think what the truthers are meaning is that the collapse was not possible without the help of CD.


I know. I'm just making fun.

[beachnut]

Oh...I havent seen it before :P I got from a truther site right now... I guess they are just as late as I am.

Well close this then.
The scale height is over 150 feet tall, not many floors needed to build a scale model of the WTC.

one silly model

[Mince]

The scale height is over 150 feet tall, not many floors needed to build a scale model of the WTC.

one silly model


If their modeling is realistic and if they're right about the collapse, they should be able to load their modeled towers with explosives and get a collapse exactly as we saw on 9/11, right? I wonder why they don't try that, as it seems to me that would be the second experiment by any real scientist. They've disproven the competing theory, now it's time to prove their theory. Isn't Marc Harpoon...Marvin Proton...Max Phoo-Phoo...whatever his name is...isn't he some sort of sciency guy person? Maybe he can, through modelling, prove the CD hypothesis to be correct. He seems smart like that.

[Grizzly Bear]

thats nothing, check out his follow-up experiment

http://wtcmodel.blogspot.com/2006/12/121006.html

I can't decide between whether Gage's card board box drop or this wir frame model is worse. THere's simply no level of woo that comes remotely near how silly that was...

[Quad4_72]

Truthers will go wild over this! :D

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I gotta tell ya, that's, that's just awful. Twoofers lack of understanding of even the simplest structural concepts mind boggling. I think my two year old has a better understanding of this stuff than these idiots.

[lapman]

thats nothing, check out his follow-up experiment

http://wtcmodel.blogspot.com/2006/12/121006.html
What I thought was interesting was:
The tower was NOT going to fall down on the "impact side"-- but I could tilt the tower on the other side of the "plane damage" more easily. So, could this phenomenon also apply as to why the tops of the towers did not tilt toward the impact side? The same for WTC 7 falling away from the damaged side?

[jaydeehess]

Maybe he could wire in blank .22 cartridges as 'explosive' and see how many of them are required before it collapses? LOL

If he does I'd like him to record it with audio please.

[defaultdotxbe]

I can't decide between whether Gage's card board box drop or this wir frame model is worse. THere's simply no level of woo that comes remotely near how silly that was...
i like how he can see this
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/400/116499/12.10.06%20pics%20023%20%282%29.jpg
and still insist its in any way a valid model, and even went on to say it was biased to collapse, and was 100 times weaker than the actual WTC

[ElMondoHummus]

Oh, Spooked again? Hehe... Lennart, you tripped over one of the biggest fantasist memes from that time period. Yeah, I clearly remember his "experiment", and the jaw-dropping astonishment many people felt when they saw someone trying to claim that this model accurately describes the Twin Towers.

The Truth Movement was so young and innocent back then, so full of vigor... :D

[nadsat]

i like how he can see this
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/5459/522/400/116499/12.10.06%20pics%20023%20%282%29.jpg
and still insist its in any way a valid model, and even went on to say it was biased to collapse, and was 100 times weaker than the actual WTC

:dl: mindblowing :dl:

[SezMe]

Man, that fire in the bowl was so hot it damaged my monitor.

[SezMe]

Maybe he could wire in blank .22 cartridges as 'explosive' and see how many of them are required before it collapses? LOL

If he does I'd like him to record it with audio please.
And video...I wanna see the tiny little squibs.

[jaydeehess]

And video...I wanna see the tiny little squibs.

Oh by all means. I was unclear, I meant that in videoing it that he also include an audio track.

Inquiring minds want to see it.

[Zipster]

Wow, those experiments were...just wow... I'll at least give it to them for trying.

[atecom]

Many of these Truther experiments might have a leg to stand on if the twin towers were 2 large blocks of steel airlifted into Manhattan and the buildings were carved out of them... But since that is not the case, nor is it a plausible scenario, they fail to take into account how buildings are a group of smaller systems that work together to keep it up.

[MIKILLINI]

Truthers will go wild over this! :D

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:dl:

Is there a Stundie for experiments?

[atecom]

Its well known that the steel perimeter columns of the Windsor tower in Madrid collapsed on fire affected floors as well, I guess this experiment supposedly disproves that as well.

[Miragememories]

Its well known that the steel perimeter columns of the Windsor tower in Madrid collapsed on fire affected floors as well, I guess this experiment supposedly disproves that as well.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4310/madridsc4sb3.png
From the official Windsor Building Collapse Report;

Authored by;
Dr. Kenichi Ikeda, Fire Safety Design Group Division
Prof. Ai Sekizawa, University of Tokyo, Dept. of Chemical Systems Engineering,
Fire and Disaster Management Engineering Laboratory

http://www.ncdr.nat.gov.tw/iwerr/doc/pdf/S12%20PDF/s12-1.pdf

"the sizes of the steel columns at the outer walls were small and thin, they had almost no fire
protection and were easy to lose the strength. The outer frames of upper floors collapse in short time on
account of loss of strength of steel columns."

"The reason of not collapsing of the structure under 16th floor can be thought
that the steel columns had fire protection and the effective activity of fire brigade."

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/805/15hourfireafterax4.png

The surprising thing was how well that minor steel framework withstood this 15 hour fire, and the rooftop crane remained unbudged.

MM

[johnny karate]

I'm fairly certain that I could prove everything in MM's post wrong with some wire mesh framing and cinder blocks.