Another Canadian Politician Tripped Up By 9/11 Truth

[Walter Ego]

Though in this case it's not clear she's an out-and-out truther.

The New Democrats are standing by a B.C. candidate who has come under scrutiny for her beliefs about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Liberals say Bev Collins, who is running in Cariboo-Prince George, should quit because of her association with a movement that believes 9/11 was the result of a conspiracy.

In a radio interview last year, Collins suggested that the Sept. 11 attacks were used to justify the U.S. war on terror.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/story/2008/09/29/bev-collins.html

The Liberals claim they have the goods on her.

NDP RUNNING CONSPIRACY THEORIST

Bev Collins Views Insulting to Victims of 9-11

Jack Layton must be held to account for approving the candidacy of Bev Collins, a high profile conspiracy theorist and former Canadian Action Party (CAP) President and NDP candidate in Cariboo-Prince George.

Sadly, it appears that the NDP didn’t do any research when they recruited this controversial candidate, who even speaks at “9/11truth conferences.” When confronted with the possibility by the Vancouver Sun yesterday, NDP campaign manager Gerry Scott was quoted as saying “I’m sure she doesn’t believe that” (Vancouver Sun, 24 September 2008)

Here are the facts:

There are countless hours of video and audio that show exactly what Bev Collins really believes. (Links and transcripts attached) The local print media has also reported extensively on what Bev Collins believes...

http://www.teambc.ca/2008/09/25/ndp-running-conspiracy-theorist/

[Corsair 115]

This thread should probably be merged with this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124929) one, just to keep things tidy.

[Walter Ego]

This thread should probably be merged with this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124929) one, just to keep things tidy.

Good idea. Here's a video on the story.

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[Horatius]

Though in this case it's not clear she's an out-and-out truther.



The Liberals claim they have the goods on her.



She's definitely woo. Google the Canadian Action party, and her name in particular, and you'll find all sorts of CT nonsense. Samples:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6191

http://www.radicalpress.com/?cat=45

http://tribes.tribe.net/nanaimo911truth/thread/927e6c97-6d1f-4af2-9c2f-1d1fc7ced9cc


I can't find anything on 9/11, but she's definitely a CT woo.

[dudalb]

Is this the party whose leader wanted to ban all Private Practice of Medicine in Canada?

[dudalb]

After looking at that link with the NAU blather, if she wins, Canada will have it's answer to Ron Paul.

[Pardalis]

And I thought the Green Party had all the kooks. :(

[T.A.M.]

Is this the party whose leader wanted to ban all Private Practice of Medicine in Canada?

As if I didn't have enough reason to dislike them before.

Figures.

TAM:)

[dudalb]

And I thought the Green Party had all the kooks. :(

The US Green Party is doing just fine in the kook department with Cynthia McKinney.

[dudalb]

As if I didn't have enough reason to dislike them before.

Figures.

TAM:)

Universal Health Care is something I support, but forbidding somebody from supplmenting this out of his own pocket if he wants to...no freaking way.

[MarkyX]

Is this the party whose leader wanted to ban all Private Practice of Medicine in Canada?

Yes. For some reason Jack Layton thinks the government can do a better job then any private sector.

Here's a transcript of one of his speeches, where he says the biggest threat to public healthcare is privation. What's really ironic is he complains about the huge income gap between the classes yet wants the government bigger thereby more taxes on the lower class. Clueless idiot.

http://www.ndp.ca/page/4999

As I said in another thread, the only audience for the NDP is students and stoners.

[Tbone]

As I said in another thread, the only audience for the NDP is students and stoners.

Especially after he shaved that bitchin' mustache.

[Mince]

How can someone, lacking any level of scientific education, and using YouTube and Google exclusively, determine the cause of a building collapse, given its complexity? I'll never understand that. Of course the collapse looked suspicious...to the uninformed. Of course the explanation didn't make sense...to the uneducated. Even the true scientists, after having done extensive and exhaustive investigation and research, don't really know. Yet a typical truther, after listening to Alex Jones, visiting a few websites and watching a few YouTube videos, knows absolutely. Should I laugh or cry? Either way, it's a bit scary.

[T.A.M.]

Universal Health Care is something I support, but forbidding somebody from supplmenting this out of his own pocket if he wants to...no freaking way.

OT:

I agree, and many of us in the profession would like to see some sort of private/public hybrid. The trouble is the trap of making it into a "two tier" system, where the "haves" get the best care, the quickest care, the "superior" care, and the "have nots" get what ever the rest of the country can afford to give them.

right now, whether you are warren buffett, or joe blow, you get essentially, the same level of health care. Wait lists are long, and that is an issue, but at least the wait for warren and joe is the same.

It is much more complex than this, but you see where I am coming from.

TAM:)

[Pardalis]

Here's a transcript of one of his speeches, where he says the biggest threat to public healthcare is privation. What's really ironic is he complains about the huge income gap between the classes yet wants the government bigger thereby more taxes on the lower class. Clueless idiot.

http://www.ndp.ca/page/4999

Where does he say that in your link?

As far as I know, he talks of pushing for more corporate taxes (http://www.ndp.ca/platform/jobsandaffordability/corporatetaxes).

[MarkyX]

Where does he say that in your link?

As far as I know, he talks of pushing for more corporate taxes (http://www.ndp.ca/platform/jobsandaffordability/corporatetaxes).

"That effort starts by the tackling the greatest threat to public health care today - privatization. "

[Pardalis]

"That effort starts by the tackling the greatest threat to public health care today - privatization. "

It must be in the white spaces between the letters then. :boggled:

Your claim:

Here's a transcript of one of his speeches, where he says the biggest threat to public healthcare is privation. What's really ironic is he complains about the huge income gap between the classes yet wants the government bigger thereby more taxes on the lower class.

[MarkyX]

It must be in the white spaces between the letters then. :boggled:

Your claim:

Look at the bigger picture: If the government gets better (e.g. more funding), there needs to more taxes to handle the additional expenses, right? Any extra taxing won't scratch the high class as much as those in the middle and lower class.

So Jack wants to close the gap between the classes, yet he is saying we giving government more power. How do you make the government get more power? By giving it more money.

[Pardalis]

Look at the bigger picture: If the government gets better (e.g. more funding), there needs to more taxes to handle the additional expenses, right? Any extra taxing won't scratch the high class as much as those in the middle and lower class.

So Jack wants to close the gap between the classes, yet he is saying we giving government more power. How do you make the government get more power? By giving it more money.

I just think what you implied is not in the text you referred to, or in the party's plan. I don't mind bigger government, if it can avoid things like the crisis in the US right now.