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qarnos
2nd October 2008, 05:51 PM
In the Science Show, a podcast created by the (Australian) ABC, the host recently talked to Sergei Dudarev from the UK Atomic Energy Authority.
In it he talks about a new discovery that the strength of steel, when heated to 500 degrees Celsius, is directly affected by the magnetic properties of the steel and how this relates to the collapse of the Twin Towers.
Audio link here (http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/current/audioonly/ssw_20080920_1247.mp3), and also a transcript (http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2008/2369411.htm#transcript).
Bobby
3rd October 2008, 07:37 PM
Interesting stuff:
Robyn Williams: Does this scotch some of those many conspiracy theories (I'm sure you're familiar with them) and explain actually what happened?
Sergei Dudarev: The answer to the terrible tragedy is had the thermal insulating panels been glued better to the steel structures, nothing would have happened, or at least the buildings could have been evacuated before they collapsed. It is a predictable outcome of very strong fire in a building where a conventional steel proved to be unsuitable for the purpose, so partially the answer might be in the use of different steel that remains mechanically stable at high temperatures, or partially in the design of better protected structures using thermal insulation materials.
Guess he must have gotten his pay off too. Another one on the "inside", these shills are everywhere :) Stands to reason though, I mean he's only submitted papers to the "Journal of Nuclear Materials" (and others in the recent past), which I'm guessing is peer reviewed. So now we can add the editorial board of this journal to the long list of those in receipt of blood money, right twoofers?
rwguinn
3rd October 2008, 09:22 PM
In the Science Show, a podcast created by the (Australian) ABC, the host recently talked to Sergei Dudarev from the UK Atomic Energy Authority.
In it he talks about a new discovery that the strength of steel, when heated to 500 degrees Celsius, is directly affected by the magnetic properties of the steel and how this relates to the collapse of the Twin Towers.
Audio link here (http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/current/audioonly/ssw_20080920_1247.mp3), and also a transcript (http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2008/2369411.htm#transcript).
Amazing. Engineers NEVER KNEW that non-magnetic Stainless (CRES) steels are more resistant to heat degradation of strength than normal carbon steels. That we use them in high heat applications is just coincidence, I guess...
sheesh...
It is interesting that the magnetic properties correlate, however. Will leave that investigation to the metalurgists.
Travis
3rd October 2008, 09:52 PM
Funny how the Truthers are referring to this as "magic" magnetism.
They think magnets are "magic" so no wonder they have a hard time grasping concepts like "thermodynamics."
Zipster
4th October 2008, 12:28 AM
Let me guess. This is going to result in a CT where the Towers fell because giant magnets were hidden under the buildings, pulling them down when the fire reached a certain temperature and affected the steel's magnetic field just right.
Uhoh...did I say that out loud?
Travis
4th October 2008, 01:14 AM
Let me guess. This is going to result in a CT where the Towers fell because giant magnets were hidden under the buildings, pulling them down when the fire reached a certain temperature and affected the steel's magnetic field just right.
Uhoh...did I say that out loud?
Expect that one to be quickly superseded by one where a giant invisible magnet of the same polarity as the buildings swooped over in orbit magnetically repelling the towers into the ground.
Then expect someone to use that as jumping off point to go into a "the universe is plasma" rant.
Zipster
4th October 2008, 02:28 AM
Expect that one to be quickly superseded by one where a giant invisible magnet of the same polarity as the buildings swooped over in orbit magnetically repelling the towers into the ground.
Then expect someone to use that as jumping off point to go into a "the universe is plasma" rant.
Excellent! You, sir, just made my day! HAHA!
Travis
4th October 2008, 04:22 AM
Excellent! You, sir, just made my day! HAHA!
...and a checkmark for today...:)
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