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SSiE
10th October 2008, 12:14 AM
A group of South African skeptics have put together a Stop Danie Krugel site, with the aim of informing more people about the suspicious nature of Krugel's claims, and to correct several common mistakes made by the media when reporting on Krugel. I'm new to the forum and cannot post links, but I can give a hint, if you can read between the spaces :) www stop danie krugel dot com

For those who don't know, Krugel is the ex-cop in South Africa who claims to have invented a device that used a combination of quantum physics, GPS and a 'secret power source' that can locate any matter from a small sample. The South African media have fallen for this hook, line and sinker, and Krugel is now regularly called upon by parents of missing children to look for them. Recently, he has claimed that he can detect cancer in patients where current diagnostics fail.

The man in clearly dangerous, and the site has a Support Us page, where skeptics can add their names to a growing list of people who doubt Krugel's claims, or wish to see the promotion of his services cease until proper scientific investigagtion of his claims.

The JREF and the challenge is mentioned there, but the credibility of the site will be boosted immensely if someone from the JREF can actually comment, or provide an official endorsement. Randi has mentioned Krugel several times, even going as far as to invite him to take part in the $1 million challenge.

Georg
10th October 2008, 01:24 AM
http://www.stopdaniekrugel.com/

ETA: welcome to the board!

ETA2: For boosting the site, you could contact the man himself: randi@randi.org

SSiE
10th October 2008, 01:30 AM
Thanks for posting the link! (and welcoming me, I've been following Randi for years, don't know why I waited this long to join).

DarthFishy
10th October 2008, 02:50 AM
Welcome SSiE!

Good to see the other SA sceptics join the JREF forum. Trust me though you'll find a lot less time left in your day once you discover this forum.

tim
10th October 2008, 02:53 AM
Thanks for posting the link! (and welcoming me, I've been following Randi for years, don't know why I waited this long to join).


Welcome! Do you know of Project Jason? Kelly Jolkowski who runs this organisation in the States is one of our members and a poster here. http://www.projectjason.org/

SSiE
13th October 2008, 04:26 AM
Thanks, I am impressed with what they are trying to do at Project Jason. The prolonged anguish and false hope of those who have lost a loved one are some of the reasons why we feel so strongly that Danie Krugel should be stopped.

His claims of tracking missing children over hundreds of kilometres with a single hair, quantum physics and GPS are obviously deluded or fraudulent, and we need all the support we can on the site to boost awareness. I have sent email to Randi, but can just imagine the vast volumes of mail he must receive, and can't expect him to take a personal interest in every skeptical cause out there ;-)

tim
13th October 2008, 12:14 PM
Thanks, I am impressed with what they are trying to do at Project Jason. The prolonged anguish and false hope of those who have lost a loved one are some of the reasons why we feel so strongly that Danie Krugel should be stopped.

His claims of tracking missing children over hundreds of kilometres with a single hair, quantum physics and GPS are obviously deluded or fraudulent, and we need all the support we can on the site to boost awareness. I have sent email to Randi, but can just imagine the vast volumes of mail he must receive, and can't expect him to take a personal interest in every skeptical cause out there ;-)


I think you might be surprised. Watch out for a PM.

rjh01
14th October 2008, 11:43 PM
Just had a look at your site. I suggest that the bit in red on this page needs reviewing http://www.stopdaniekrugel.com/2008/09/dirk-booysen.html. On the main page this is listed as a success not a failure.

And welcome to the forum.

SSiE
19th October 2008, 03:10 AM
Thanks, we have made appropriate edits. Mr Krugel has since indicated in an email to he site owners that he would be willing to take the Randi challenge, and awaits further communication. We are in the process of escalating this process, but would appreciate help from Randi. Several messages and emails have been sent, including a phone call to the JREF from South Africa, but we still await any kind of response. I think Mr Randi probably has more than enough other skeptical projects to keep him busy, so we will try to progress with setting up a proper testing protocol on his side, before contactin Mr Randi again.