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Mark Carter
11th October 2008, 04:17 PM
No the Rockefellers are Jews pretending to be Christians. This is why Rich powerful Jews never get caught because they are pretending to be Christians. Not only were Jews behind 911 they were also behind the Kennedy assassiantions in my opinion. My own website has a link about the Rockefellers and it shows that they financed the creation of Israel but the link doesn't even mention the fact that they are Jewish. The Rockefellers helped finance the creation of Israel. The truth is that it is illegal to print anything about Jews because of the ADL

Fiona
11th October 2008, 04:23 PM
No the Rockefellers are Jews pretending to be Christians.

What does this mean?


This is why Rich powerful Jews never get caught because they are pretending to be Christians.

What does this mean?


Not only were Jews behind 911 they were also behind the Kennedy assassiantions in my opinion.


Based on what?


My own website has a link about the Rockefellers and it shows that they financed the creation of Israel but the link doesn't even mention the fact that they are Jewish.

So what?

The Rockefellers helped finance the creation of Israel.

And...?


The truth is that it is illegal to print anything about Jews because of the ADL

What does this mean?

Mark Carter
11th October 2008, 04:45 PM
Well you can visit my website at www.dualidentity.net it has all the information about this.

Fiona
11th October 2008, 04:46 PM
Why not just explain here ?

Mark Carter
11th October 2008, 04:55 PM
I guess that it would be easier to read my website. People can be sued and loose everything because of slandering Jews. The Jews are Communist and they created the worlds Communist system. Back in the 1950s when Sen Joseph McCarthy was hunting Communists in the Government the Jewish Communists used to pretend to be Christians to avoid capture. Jews that were Communist like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were put to death. So they would pretend to be Christian. They are still doing this today.

Fiona
11th October 2008, 04:59 PM
That is a lovely story. :)

Are you Mark Carter, Mr Gay UK, 2007?

Cavemonster
11th October 2008, 05:33 PM
Mark, welcome to the forum.
Since this is a Skeptics forum, you're going to need to restate your claims in a form that can be discussed in material terms. Then you need to provide the evidence that proves those claims to be valid. Then we can talk about the significance of those claims.

We can start with just one statement. The Rockefellers are Jews pretending to be Christians. Does that mean they practice Judaism but keep it hidden? That they are ethnically descended from Jews but now practice Christianity... what in practical terms do you mean?

Fiona
11th October 2008, 05:43 PM
Are you not paying attention, Cavemonster? We have to visit his website ......:D

dudalb
11th October 2008, 06:06 PM
Are you not paying attention, Cavemonster? We have to visit his website ......:D

Frankly, I can guess what it is like and don't have the stomach.
We are dealing with an Anti Semite folks, plain and simple.

Gavron
11th October 2008, 06:21 PM
Make sure you buy a copy of the book he is selling at his website...

Gotta love it!

howl
:dl:

Elizabeth I
11th October 2008, 06:57 PM
I guess that it would be easier to read my website. People can be sued and loose everything because of slandering Jews. The Jews are Communist and they created the worlds Communist system. Back in the 1950s when Sen Joseph McCarthy was hunting Communists in the Government the Jewish Communists used to pretend to be Christians to avoid capture. Jews that were Communist like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were put to death. So they would pretend to be Christian. They are still doing this today.

:rolleyes:

I know it probably means I am naive beyond belief, but I am surprised every time I am reminded people like this actually still exist.

Fiona
11th October 2008, 07:10 PM
Be glad, Elizabeth I: it sounds like your life could be a LOT worse :)

Cavemonster
11th October 2008, 08:14 PM
Frankly, I can guess what it is like and don't have the stomach.
We are dealing with an Anti Semite folks, plain and simple.

Oh, I think that much is clear. I was a bit inspired by the moderation thread and I think it would be a good thing to bring these claims under the spotlights.

The sudden presence of multiple people with this *ahem* point of view reminds me not to assume that not everyone browsing the forum sees the "issue" as clearly as you and I do and that it may actually be productive to demonstrate the muddled logic in such claims and hold it up for scrutiny.

MaGZ
11th October 2008, 09:15 PM
To answer the question is that the Rockefellers who own Chase are Jews. They are worth over a trillion dollars. They also own Chevron Exxon and were actually behind creating the war in Iraq. The guy that owns AIG is also Jewish. Jews call anybody a Nazi or an anti semite that tries to expose the Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds who are worth over a trillion dollars and own Shell gasoline. The truth is that you can't expose Jewish bankers because they control the news media.

The Rockefellers are Aryans not Jews.

dudalb
11th October 2008, 09:24 PM
The Rockefellers are Aryans not Jews.

As far as I know the Rockerfellers had no ancestors who lived in India.......:D

MaGZ
11th October 2008, 09:26 PM
The biggest secret industry in America that is owned by Jews is the Diamond industry! It has been controlled by one Jewish family for three generations! the Oppenheimers who own Debeers The are the same people that own one of the largest investment firms on Wall Street. The Oppenheimer fund!

Furrier industry--Jew controlled, don’t forget the furrier industry.

MaGZ
11th October 2008, 09:34 PM
No the Rockefellers are Jews pretending to be Christians. This is why Rich powerful Jews never get caught because they are pretending to be Christians. Not only were Jews behind 911 they were also behind the Kennedy assassiantions in my opinion. My own website has a link about the Rockefellers and it shows that they financed the creation of Israel but the link doesn't even mention the fact that they are Jewish. The Rockefellers helped finance the creation of Israel. The truth is that it is illegal to print anything about Jews because of the ADL

I disagree Mark, and I assume you are being serious. Do you think FDR was Jewish? What about Hitler?

MaGZ
11th October 2008, 09:42 PM
Does that mean they should be bailed out? Or not? MaGZ, I suggest you and Mark Carter talk amongst yourselves for a while and come to a consensus on who is a Jew and who isn't. You two need to present a united front.

I doubt there will be a United Front. I have rejected many of his claims long ago.

stilicho
11th October 2008, 09:44 PM
Well you can visit my website at www.dualidentity.net (http://www.dualidentity.net) it has all the information about this.

Your website doesn't mention banks. It does make this unsubstantiated claim though: "Joseph Stalin used to work for Standard Oil..." You made that up, didn't you?

MaGZ
11th October 2008, 09:54 PM
Your website doesn't mention banks. It does make this unsubstantiated claim though: "Joseph Stalin used to work for Standard Oil..." You made that up, didn't you?

He also claims Senator Jay Rockefeller was responsible for the WMD lies. In fact, Senator Rockefeller is one of the loudest critics of the phony intelligence used to go to war in Iraq.

Brainache
12th October 2008, 11:59 PM
He also claims Senator Jay Rockefeller was responsible for the WMD lies. In fact, Senator Rockefeller is one of the loudest critics of the phony intelligence used to go to war in Iraq.

Here's an article for you to use MaGZ:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/swirsky120305.htm

Or, what about this one? :

http://rockefeller.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298774

Dubbi
13th October 2008, 03:28 AM
Oh, I've been waiting to do this for a while.

Mark, how do we know that you're not Jewish? Mark Carter is it? Du reb in Yiddish?

Perhaps related to this Mark Carter:

Mark Carter, aka Mark Cartojnsky, aka Kartoczinsky
Born December 12, 1884 in Rostoff, Russia, aka Rostov

Duarte Sanatorium of the Jewish Consumptive Relief Association, later the City of Hope

source: http://home.earthlink.net/~nholdeneditor/mark_carter_at_sixty.htm

Mark, is it ok to contact you should my shul need a minyan?

By the way, have a good Succes this Monday night!

Zay gezunt,
Dubbi

SDC
13th October 2008, 03:39 AM
Dubbi, I'm trying to figure out that Yiddish phrase... I would think Redt ir Yidish? (Do you speak Yiddish?)

Dubbi
13th October 2008, 03:43 AM
SDC,

You're right, it should be redt. It always sounded like "reb" to me. A dank. Perhaps it is just due to the dialect I'm used to hearing. Anyhow, I'm sure Mark Carter would know.

JimBenArm
13th October 2008, 04:42 AM
Jews hiding as Christians? Is this the real reason my parents had me circumsised?
I never knew...

Darat
13th October 2008, 04:45 AM
I'm actually a little bit worried in case I am a Jew disguised as a non-believer as I do make a very nice chicken soup. Is there a test I can take?

JimBenArm
13th October 2008, 04:49 AM
I'm actually a little bit worried in case I am a Jew disguised as a non-believer as I do make a very nice chicken soup. Is there a test I can take?
Yes. If you answer this correctly, you're a Jew.
"Was 9/11 an inside job?"

Darat
13th October 2008, 05:12 AM
What does this mean?

...snip...

It's the "Reverse No True Scotsman" fallacy.

Cuddles
13th October 2008, 06:59 AM
It's the "Reverse No True Scotsman" fallacy.

So you're saying that the world is secretly controlled by the Scottish? Hmm, that would actually explain a lot.

Darat
13th October 2008, 07:09 AM
Oh yes and my proof - look how many of them are were in charge of UK banks!

Kthulhut Fhtagn
13th October 2008, 07:35 AM
I disagree Mark, and I assume you are being serious. Do you think FDR was Jewish? What about Hitler?

FDR was a total Jew. I know because I just had Jewdar installed yesterday. Hitler, certainly not. Just look at that tall blonde-haired blue-eyes Nordic man on the right.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/Panzerschreck_DH/scissors20beat20paper.jpg

Dave Rogers
13th October 2008, 10:12 AM
It seems to me that Mark Carter wants so much to blame the Jews for everything bad that his definition of a Jew is now "One of the people to blame for anything bad"; if someone he doesn't like claims not to be Jewish, he'll just redefine Jewishness to include them. As Hermann Goering is sometimes apocryphally claimed to have said, "I'll decide who's a Jew!"

Dave

moon1969
13th October 2008, 01:59 PM
Ted Turner, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are jews? This is the same thing that Adolf Hitler used. Trying to make everybody paranoid. This kind of stuff is dangerous since Hitler too blamed the jews during the Great Depression.

moon1969
13th October 2008, 02:01 PM
If jews rule the USA then why is Jack Abramoff in jail? If jews rule Russia why is Mikhail Khodorkovsky in prison?

Nogbad
13th October 2008, 02:01 PM
I guess that it would be easier to read my website. People can be sued and loose everything because of slandering Jews. The Jews are Communist and they created the worlds Communist system. Back in the 1950s when Sen Joseph McCarthy was hunting Communists in the Government the Jewish Communists used to pretend to be Christians to avoid capture. Jews that were Communist like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were put to death. So they would pretend to be Christian. They are still doing this today.

You are having a laugh :boggled:


The book Dual Identity is a more in depth
study of the CIA and all of there operations.


Indulge me and change that to "their"

moon1969
13th October 2008, 02:11 PM
You are right. Martin Luther was an anti-semite who wrote a book called On the Jews and their lies. Yes Luther hated jews. The Roman Catholic Church also has a history of anti-semitism. Many of the Church Fathers were anti-semites. It was Sirhan Sirhan who killed Robert F. Kennedy and not the joos. Robert F. Kennedy was a supporter of the State of Israel. Ted Kennedy doesn"t blame the joos. Then there is one other thing what nazis claim. It is that jews invented communism because Karl Marx was a jew. That is a lie. Then there is a book called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Hamas likes to use that book and trie to proove that joos rule the world.

MaGZ
13th October 2008, 02:39 PM
Here's an article for you to use MaGZ:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/swirsky120305.htm

Or, what about this one? :

http://rockefeller.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298774

Your point is unclear. Could you spell it out? Of the two links, one seems to be suggesting Senator Rockefeller was a supporter of Sadam and the other says we were lied to about WMDs. Rockefeller said he was going to get to the bottom of all the lies that lead to the invasion of Iraq, but he never did.

Thunder
13th October 2008, 07:11 PM
Besides the Rockefellers...who else is a Jew pretending to be a Christian?

George Bush?
Colin Powell?
Dich Cheney?
Norman Schwartzkopf?
David Duke?

MaGZ
13th October 2008, 07:38 PM
Besides the Rockefellers...who else is a Jew pretending to be a Christian?

George Bush?
Colin Powell?
Dich Cheney?
Norman Schwartzkopf?
David Duke?

Senator George Allen?
Senator John Kerry ?
Ambassador Madeline Albright?

Thunder
13th October 2008, 07:49 PM
Madeline Albright acknowledges and is proud of her Jewish heritage. Whether or not she believes in Jesus as the Son of God is between her..and him.

MaGz- are you a crypto-Jew?

it seems that most anti-Semites have some Jewish ancestry..or are even full Jews..like Benjamin Freedman, Vladimir Zhironovsky, Adolf Hitler, Richard Wagner, etc.

FreshHat
13th October 2008, 08:18 PM
Besides the Rockefellers...who else is a Jew pretending to be a Christian?




I have a John Cleese DVD where he is questioned about some of the alledgedly somewhat anti-Semitic references in a few Monty Python sketches.

Cleese takes the mick, and claims that Michael Palin is a Jew, so I'm going to assume that Sarah Palin is also a Jew.

Couldn't be any clearer...

IT'S OBVIOUS,PEOPLE!! :D

Skeptic
14th October 2008, 12:53 PM
No the Rockefellers are Jews pretending to be Christians. This is why Rich powerful Jews never get caught because they are pretending to be Christians. Not only were Jews behind 911 they were also behind the Kennedy assassiantions in my opinion.

There's the problem right there.

dudalb
14th October 2008, 03:48 PM
Wow, those Jews are behind EVERYTHING in Mark's world.

PhantomWolf
14th October 2008, 05:33 PM
Besides the Rockefellers...who else is a Jew pretending to be a Christian?

John McCain (http://www.texemarrs.com/images/leiberman_mccain_wailing_wall.jpg)
Barak Obama (http://www.236.com/images/photo2/4413/original/original.jpg) (when he's not being a Muslim (http://www.brookesnews.com/070801obama.html))
Pope John Paul the 2nd (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/pope_at_wailing_wall.jpg)

Doctor Evil
14th October 2008, 05:49 PM
John McCain (http://www.texemarrs.com/images/leiberman_mccain_wailing_wall.jpg)
Barak Obama (http://www.236.com/images/photo2/4413/original/original.jpg) (when he's not being a Muslim (http://www.brookesnews.com/070801obama.html))
Pope John Paul the 2nd (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/pope_at_wailing_wall.jpg)


You seem to have put the horse in front of the cart. You're examples are of Christians pretending to be Jews.

:p

PhantomWolf
14th October 2008, 08:13 PM
You seem to have put the horse in front of the cart. You're examples are of Christians pretending to be Jews.

:p

No, no, no, no, no. They are Jews pretending to be Christians who are pretending to be Jews, except for Obama who occasionally forgets and pretends to be a Muslim.

CurtC
14th October 2008, 08:59 PM
Ted Turner, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are jews?

Seems unlikely, considering that those three are all atheists. Hell, they're not even pretending to be Christian.

Doctor Evil
14th October 2008, 09:02 PM
No, no, no, no, no. They are Jews pretending to be Christians who are pretending to be Jews, except for Obama who occasionally forgets and pretends to be a Muslim.


Doh, how could I miss that?

PhantomWolf
14th October 2008, 09:20 PM
Doh, how could I miss that?

Don't feel too badly, you're just not thinking in enough layers of deviousness.

Damien Evans
14th October 2008, 09:35 PM
As far as I know the Rockerfellers had no ancestors who lived in India.......:D

Iran, not India.

Brainache
15th October 2008, 01:37 AM
Your point is unclear. Could you spell it out? Of the two links, one seems to be suggesting Senator Rockefeller was a supporter of Sadam and the other says we were lied to about WMDs. Rockefeller said he was going to get to the bottom of all the lies that lead to the invasion of Iraq, but he never did.

I just thought you might want to try supporting your assertion with some kind of a link to some article agreeing with you. Those were on the first page of a google search for "Jay Rockefeller Iraq WMDs". I thought it might make a pleasant change from the usual unsupported ant-semitic nonsense... Oh well, nevermind.