Do Swedish men now pee sitting down?

[Abdul Alhazred]

This is a serious request for information. It is not my intention to start another humorous pseudo flame war.

Various conservative media in the USA have been running stories that Swedish women have been insisting that men pee sitting down because peeing standing up opresses women.

Sorry no links for now, but I'll find some if challenged.

At the very least maybe some Swedish feminist crazy has said something like this. But I always thought that our (USA) feminist crazies were the craziest.

This story doesn't smell right, but it keeps coming up.

Questions for Swedes:

1) Total BS?
2) Germ of truth?
3) OK some folks are like that?
4) A major trend, like it or not?
5) Americans are no damn good because their men pee standing up!
6) Or ... ?

To my skeptical mind, at this point this is more a question about USA media than about Swedes. But it takes a Swede to answer the question.

[epepke]

Um, I pee sitting down.

It hasn't made me less of an anti-feminist; it's just easier.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by epepke
Um, I pee sitting down.

It hasn't made me less of an anti-feminist; it's just easier.

The question is whether anybody in Sweden is making a public issue out of it.

That's what's being claimed that I'm skeptical about.

I'm not interested in a survey of how men pee by choice.

[Jessica Blue]

Not just Sweden, but Germany and Australia too apparently. It's a real epidemic.

Now boys...sit. Good boy!


Young women in Sweden, Germany, and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene --"avoiding the splash factor" -- but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English Spectator, "more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women." One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence. A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. In Australia, an Internet survey shows that 17 percent of those polled think men ought to sit, while 70 percent believe they should be allowed to stand. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. "What else can I do?" said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits.

US News and World Report, 21 August 2000


I wonder who thought up that internet survey? All stories about this seem to eminate from a report by Jaspar Gerard in the conservative Spectator. Sounds like a storm in a toilet bowl to me.

[EdipisReks]

anyone who tries to force me into a particular urinating position is going to get a 10mm Silvertip between the eyes. 25-life would be worth it.

[Richard G]

:wink8:
This is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[bangdazap]

Never heard of it. Sounds like a hoax. There are still urinals were I live anyway (in f''ing Sweeeden).

[a_unique_person]

I live in Australia, and I have never heard of it. When they say "women", all they are saying is "more than one". I will make my stab at getting the $1,000,000 and confidently predict that these requests have been made by no more than .0001% of the female population.

However, I have read that there is a move for women to start peeing standing up. That was far more newsworthy.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
Not just Sweden, but Germany and Australia too apparently. It's a real epidemic.

Now boys...sit. Good boy!

Young women in Sweden... snip

US News and World Report, 21 August 2000

I wonder who thought up that internet survey? All stories about this seem to eminate from a report by Jaspar Gerard in the conservative Spectator. Sounds like a storm in a toilet bowl to me.

The US News and World Report story is an example of the USA conservative media that I am being skeptical about.

I want answers from Swedes, please.

Or at least someone who knows from personal experience, not more media quotes.

As for the internet survey, it is any more valid than my JREF flame war survey about peanut butter?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
However, I have read that there is a move for women to start peeing standing up. That was far more newsworthy.

Anyone of either sex can pee standing up, but which sex can do so without wetting his or her shoes? Are you serious? If yes, please tell me more.

Are the women in question using catheters?

[shuize]

I call BS.

Even if it were true, removing the urinals is only going to move men to urinate into toilets ... while standing.

And then there's goinig to be even more carping about leaving the seat up ...

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by shuize
I call BS.

Even if it were true, removing the urinals is only going to move men to urinate into toilets ... while standing.

And then there's goinig to be even more carping about leaving the seat up ...

Are you in Sweden?

What about security cameras? So you pee standing up in front of a toilet? They'll still get you.

[Jessica Blue]

I'm not interested in a survey of how men pee by choice.

and

I want answers from Swedes, please.

Or at least someone who knows from personal experience, not more media quotes.

Are you some kind of thread fascist...? No quotes, no chit-chat...prefers Swedes.


Okay you want to know if there's any substance to the story...but perhaps we could talk amongst ourselves until the Swedes arrive?

[shuize]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


Are you in Sweden?

What about security cameras? So you pee standing up in front of a toilet? They'll still get you.

No, I'm in Japan where men piss anywhere they want ... toilets, urinals, train platforms ... standing up.

I still don't believe the story. Part of me sort of wishes it were true though -- as futher evidence of the silly results of socialist thinking.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
I'm not interested in a survey of how men pee by choice.

and

I want answers from Swedes, please.

Or at least someone who knows from personal experience, not more media quotes.

Are you some kind of thread fascist...? No quotes, no chit-chat...prefers Swedes.


Okay you want to know if there's any substance to the story...but perhaps we could talk amongst ourselves until the Swedes arrive?

Of course not. Anyone from anywhere can say anything.

But for an answer to my question I need, if not a Swede, someone who has spent time in Sweden recently.

I ask, what the Hell is going on in Sweden? Am I a bigot if I prefer Swedish answers?

I think not.

[UnrepentantSinner]

I'm still waiting for the link. By "conservative media" are you sure you didn't mean "Weekly World News?"

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I'm still waiting for the link. By "conservative media" are you sure you didn't mean "Weekly World News?"

Defitinely not "Weekly World News".

See the previously posted bit from US News and World Report. This is a respected USA news magazine.

I said if I were challenged I would supply links. I know I've seen it on the internet and I will post the links when I find them. I'm looking.

I'm still skeptical of the claim and want Swedish answers.

At any rate I didn't make it up.

Where are the Swedes?

[UnrepentantSinner]

I'm sorry, but as someone who eats creamy peanut butter, I cannot trust you at your word. The Swedes and other Scandenavians will be on in a few more hours. It's 5am over there.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I'm sorry, but as someone who eats creamy peanut butter, I cannot trust you at your word. The Swedes and other Scandenavians will be on in a few more hours. It's 5am over there.

A-OK. We'll see tomorrow.

[richardm]

I'd have thought that the simplest way for women to avoid being oppressed in this way would be for them not to watch men going to the toilet in the first place.

[deBergerac]

It seems as if this thread concerns me. I have never heard of this campaign. That does not mean that no one said anything like this or even that there is not a group of people promoting the idea. (Yes you find strange people even in Sweden.) But it is not a big issue in Sweden. Even if I have been out of the country for three weeks I am sure I would have heard about it if it were a general trend.

In general media reports from other countries are big news, world events, or those crazy little things, which will amuse everyone back home. I think this is one of the later.

By the way I do sit down.

[karl]

Like deBergerac said, it's not a big issue. It's not new and there's certainly no movement or campaign behind it.

From what I gather, most women prefer their significant other not to stand up while urinating because they are normally the ones who get to clean it up if there is a spill. (Let's be honest -- us men can't be counted on to clean up our own mess in a timely manner. I present my kitchen as "Exhibit A.") So for the sake of household peace, most Swedish men who are in a relationship tend to sit down. At home.

[Whoracle]

Don't get too cocky people, Americans are a Friends episode away from the same fate.

[Malachi151]

Originally posted by shuize


No, I'm in Japan where men piss anywhere they want ... toilets, urinals, train platforms ... standing up.

I still don't believe the story. Part of me sort of wishes it were true though -- as futher evidence of the silly results of socialist thinking.

Why would this have anything to do with socialist thinking?

[Malachi151]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred

US News and World Report, 21 August 2000

I wonder who thought up that internet survey? All stories about this seem to eminate from a report by Jaspar Gerard in the conservative Spectator. Sounds like a storm in a toilet bowl to me.

The US News and World Report story is an example of the USA conservative media that I am being skeptical about.

I want answers from Swedes, please.

Or at least someone who knows from personal experience, not more media quotes.

As for the internet survey, it is any more valid than my JREF flame war survey about peanut butter? [/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly, this is RIGHT-WING American scare tactics! That's all this is and unfortunately fools here are falling for it.

Its right-wing media trying scare "red blooded Americans" into fear of other cultures and fear of adopting change and fear of more socialist systems.

[MRC_Hans]

Seems most of our resident Swedes are absent. Perhaps you should try the scandinavian thread (in flame war/cheap seats).

I'm right next to Sweden and I haven't heard about it. And since Danish media just love to tell funny stories about Swedes, I think it is bogus.

Hans

[GreyWanderer]

Originally posted by MRC_Hans
Seems most of our resident Swedes are absent. Perhaps you should try the scandinavian thread (in flame war/cheap seats).

I'm right next to Sweden and I haven't heard about it. And since Danish media just love to tell funny stories about Swedes, I think it is bogus.

Hans

I'm Norwegian and I hadn't heard about it either.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by deBergerac
It seems as if this thread concerns me. I have never heard of this campaign. That does not mean that no one said anything like this or even that there is not a group of people promoting the idea. (Yes you find strange people even in Sweden.) But it is not a big issue in Sweden. Even if I have been out of the country for three weeks I am sure I would have heard about it if it were a general trend.

In general media reports from other countries are big news, world events, or those crazy little things, which will amuse everyone back home. I think this is one of the later.

By the way I do sit down.

Ah! A real answer at last!

Total BS, as I suspected.

Conservative USA media == Total BS, yet again.

Thank you. Don't get me started on liberal USA media, at least not on this thread. :D

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Malachi151


Why would this have anything to do with socialist thinking?

Now we've determined that the whole thing is nonsense, though possibly some Swedish feminist somewhere has said something to this effect.

But remember socialist == bad, so it's socialist. :rolleyes:

I myself don't like socialism either, but I'm not a damn fool about it.

[rikzilla]

Dennis Leary has this to say about that:
Folks
I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream
About me,
About you,
About the way our American hearts beat way down in the bottoms of our chests,
About that special feelting we get in the cockles of our hearts
Or maybe below the cockles,
Maybe in the sub cockle area,
Maybe in the liver,
Maybe in the kidneys,
Maybe even in the colon,
We don't know

I'm just a regular joe,
With a regular job.
I'm your average white,
Suburbanite slob.
I like football, and porno, and books about war.
I've got an average house,
With a nice hardwood floor.
My wife, and my job, my kids, and my car,
My feet on the table,
With a Cuban cigar.
But sometimes that just ain't enough,
To keep a man like me interested,
Oh no, no way, uh uhh.
No I gotta go out and have fun,
At someone elses expense,
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,

I drive really slow,
In the ultra fast lane,
while people, behind me, are going insane.

I'm an *********
(he's an *********, what an *********)
I'm an *********
(he's a big fu*king *********)

I use public toilets,
And I piss on the seats, (standing up, that is!)
I walk around in the summer time,
Sayin' "How about this heat?"

I'm an *********
(he's an *********, what an *********)
I'm an *********
(he's a big fu*king *********)

Sometimes I park in handicaped spaces,
While handicaped People, make handicaped faces,

I'm an *********
(he's an *********, what an *********)
I'm an *********
(he's a big fu*king *********)

Maybe I shouldnt be singing this song,
Ranting and raving and carring on,
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong.
NAAAHHHHH

I'm an *********
(he's an *********, what an *********)
I'm an *********
(he's the worlds biggest *********)

You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadaliac Eldarado Convertable,
Hot Pink!
With whale skin hub caps,
An all leather cow interior,
And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights.
YEAH!
And I'm gonna drive around in that baby,
At 115 miles per hour,
Getting one mile per gallon,
Sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fasioned non-biodegradable styrafoam containers.
And when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers,
I'm gonna wipe my mouth in the French flag,
And then I'm gonna toss the styrafoam containers right out the side,
And there ain't a God damn thing anybody can do about it,
You know why?

I'm an *********
(he's an *********, what an *********)
I'm an *********
(he's the worlds biggest *********)

A, SS, HO, LE
Everybody,
A, SS, HO, LE

I'm an *********, and I'm Proud of it!

:D
Well....hmmmm....I wonder if he was recently in Sweden???

-z

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by rikzilla

:D
Well....hmmmm....I wonder if he was recently in Sweden???

-z

<derail>Why–have some old Bill Hicks scripts turned up there?</derail>

[shuize]

Originally posted by Malachi151


Why would this have anything to do with socialist thinking?

Now Malachi, as someone who writes a thesis in nearly every thread parsing words yourself, you'll notice that I called BS early.

I would have liked for it to be true though so I could trot it out in future capitalism/socialism/communism debates just to point and laugh at anyone who advocated the Swedish model.

Alas, Swedish socialist males are not completely whipped after all.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
...

Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. "What else can I do?" said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits.[/i]
... Oh, great - a psychiatrist. Methinks she specializes in mental castration. Ingvar sounds like he sits because he's lacking the equipment.

[shuize]

Originally posted by shuize


Now Malachi, as someone who writes a thesis in nearly every thread parsing words yourself, you'll notice that I called BS early.

I would have liked for it to be true though so I could trot it out in future capitalism/socialism/communism debates just to point and laugh at anyone who advocated the Swedish model.

Alas, Swedish socialist males are not completely whipped after all.

Bad form to quote myself, I know. But I've decided that I'm going to use this in future capitalism/socialism/communism debates anyway.

It goes so well with a bumber sticker for Swedish socialism that I just thought of: "Buy a Volvo, they're boxy but they're good ... " Actually, no. That's not it. My slogan for Sweden will be: "Come to Sweden. We've got free medicine. But you'll have to piss sitting down, thank you."

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by hgc
Oh, great - a psychiatrist. Methinks she specializes in mental castration.
She'll be a Freudian then; elektra complexes all round I suspect.

On an aside, I'm all for sitting down since pulling the short straw on bathroom cleaning duties this weekend.

[hgc]

Originally posted by BillyTK

She'll be a Freudian then; elektra complexes all round I suspect.

On an aside, I'm all for sitting down since pulling the short straw on bathroom cleaning duties this weekend. I'll admit to this only: If I go in the middle of the night, the last thing I want to see is the bathroom light, so I do the prudent thing...

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by hgc
I'll admit to this only: If I go in the middle of the night, the last thing I want to see is the bathroom light, so I do the prudent thing...

Pee in the sink?


;)

[shuize]

Originally posted by BillyTK

She'll be a Freudian then; elektra complexes all round I suspect.

On an aside, I'm all for sitting down since pulling the short straw on bathroom cleaning duties this weekend.

You clean the bathroom and piss sitting down? Are you sure you're not Swedish?

[shuize]

Originally posted by hgc
I'll admit to this only: If I go in the middle of the night, the last thing I want to see is the bathroom light, so I do the prudent thing...

Get a Swedish man to clean it up?

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by hgc
I'll admit to this only: If I go in the middle of the night, the last thing I want to see is the bathroom light, so I do the prudent thing...

Wear "Depends" to bed???

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by shuize


You clean the bathroom and piss sitting down? Are you sure you're not Swedish?

I pee sitting down because I had to clean the bathroom. It's a causal relationship. Only I don't—sit down that is—well, not very often, anyway; mostly when tired, drunk or when things get a bit stingy. But I'm happy to admit to sharing the household chores (and doing most of the cooking).

As for being Swedish, we often have Swedish meatballs for tea, and we've got a lot of furniture from Ikea, does that count?

[shuize]

Originally posted by BillyTK


I pee sitting down because I had to clean the bathroom. It's a causal relationship. Only I don't—sit down that is—well, not very often, anyway; mostly when tired, drunk or when things get a bit stingy. But I'm happy to admit to sharing the household chores (and doing most of the cooking).

As for being Swedish, we often have Swedish meatballs for tea, and we've got a lot of furniture from Ikea, does that count?

I don't know, my theory is sounding better and better.

[richardm]

Originally posted by BillyTK

well, not very often, anyway; mostly when tired, drunk or when things get a bit stingy.


"Stingy"? :eek:

[DanishDynamite]

Swedes, hehehe, the little darlings.

Not sure what happens behind closed doors in the Swedish homes, but I can attest to the fact that the drunken hordes in Helsingør piss in whatever position they happen to be in when the need arises. Sometimes without unzipping. :)

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Swedes, hehehe, the little darlings.




:roll:

When I read such threads I feel soooo guilty for the comments I have made against the Greek male chauvinistic pigs.

Our Greek men seem to be an endangered specie.I hope that being a EU country doesn't mean that we have to share them with others--with the poor British women for example...

[phildonnia]

Standing up or sitting down, European either way.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by richardm



"Stingy"? :eek:

You know-cystitus and the like...

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Cleopatra



:roll:

When I read such threads I feel soooo guilty for the comments I have made against the Greek male chauvinistic pigs.

Our Greek men seem to be an endangered specie.I hope that being a EU country doesn't mean that we have to share them with others--with the poor British women for example...

Is 70s Porn Star still haute couture for Greek men, or is that just the ones that come here?

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by BillyTK


Is 70s Porn Star still haute couture for Greek men, or is that just the ones that come here?

For those they come there it's definetely that! ;)

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by shuize


I don't know, my theory is sounding better and better.

Actually I'm the grandson of a leprechaun; a big eff off navvy leprechaun, mind, whose leisure activities revolved around drinking and hitting people, and combinations thereof. And I'm a lapsed Roman Catholic. I think those two factors might explain a lot; my counsellor told me I was overcompensating on my feminine side, but I told her it had better fashion sense and smelt nicer. I guess I'm a male lesbian at heard, albeit one who is too scared to open up and look around the closet, never mind step out of it.

Edited for spelling

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by BillyTK


I pee sitting down because I had to clean the bathroom. It's a causal relationship.

That is, you have bad aim. You should practise. I have good aim because I was taught by my mother when I was four years old. My father didn't think it was necessary, but mother prevailed.

I can write my name in the snow with the proper calligraphy, can you? :p

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Swedes, hehehe, the little darlings.

Not sure what happens behind closed doors in the Swedish homes, but I can attest to the fact that the drunken hordes in Helsingør piss in whatever position they happen to be in when the need arises. Sometimes without unzipping. :)

Thank you for additionally debunking USA conservative media. They need it. :D

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by Cleopatra



:roll:

When I read such threads I feel soooo guilty for the comments I have made against the Greek male chauvinistic pigs.

Our Greek men seem to be an endangered specie.I hope that being a EU country doesn't mean that we have to share them with others--with the poor British women for example... I'm confused. Are you saying that the Greek men, although they are male chauvinistic pigs, are afterall better than other European men because they are, afterall, real men?

Women! Can't live without them, can't shoot them.

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by phildonnia
Standing up or sitting down, European either way. Phildonnia! Where have you been, my puzzler friend? Must be at least a year since I've seen you 'round these here parts. :)

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
I'm confused. Are you saying that the Greek men, although they are male chauvinistic pigs, are afterall better than other European men because they are, afterall, real men?


You can use it exactly as you wrote it as your signature :)

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


Thank you for additionally debunking USA conservative media. They need it. :D Don't mention it.

It's a funny thing, but I've noticed that whenever I read something in the newspaper, hear it on the radio, see it on TV, etc, if I happen to have some inside knowledge on the event being portraid, the news report is always full of errors!. Somehow, given this fact, I can only surmise that when I read something in the news where I have no special knowledge, it is presumably full of errors as well.

Anyone else have this feeling?

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


You can use it exactly as you wrote it as your signature :) I will never understand women. Not in a 10^500 years.:)

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Phildonnia! Where have you been, my puzzler friend? Must be at least a year since I've seen you 'round these here parts. :)

Oh, various personal concerns kept me away for a while. Had no idea I was so memorable.

I was hoping in the last post to start a stream of dumb puns on this topic.

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by phildonnia
[B]

Oh, various personal concerns kept me away for a while. Had no idea I was so memorable. Of course you are memorable! Us old-timers don't forget, you know, especially clever puzzle solvers. :)
I was hoping in the last post to start a stream of dumb puns on this topic. Sorry, that is too clever for me. You'll have to explain what you mean to this imbecile.

[-=Vagrant=-]

I've never heard anything about such a story. If it were true it should make some headlines here since Finland is Sweden's archenemy.

[LW]

Originally posted by -=Vagrant=-
I've never heard anything about such a story. If it were true it should make some headlines here since Finland is Sweden's archenemy.

It made some small headlines a few years ago.

[shuize]

The Swedish Ministry of Tourism could use this as a new slogan to draw foreign tourists:

Come to Sweden. Our women are hot and our men are whipped.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Don't mention it.

It's a funny thing, but I've noticed that whenever I read something in the newspaper, hear it on the radio, see it on TV, etc, if I happen to have some inside knowledge on the event being portraid, the news report is always full of errors!. Somehow, given this fact, I can only surmise that when I read something in the news where I have no special knowledge, it is presumably full of errors as well.

Anyone else have this feeling?

It's not just a feeling.

I have noticed this about The New York Times many years ago. That is not "conservative media". Indeed they position themselves as "the paper of record" and are widely accepted as such.

This is not merely my impression of The New York Times day to day, but also when I was doing some academic research and dug down into the archives from the 1920s.

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Of course you are memorable! Us old-timers don't forget, you know, especially clever puzzle solvers. :)
Sorry, that is too clever for me. You'll have to explain what you mean to this imbecile.

Uh, it's "You're a-peein'".

Ok, that's pretty awful. I should have had it peer reviewed.

[Hatuey]

Originally posted by shuize


I still don't believe the story. Part of me sort of wishes it were true though -- as futher evidence of the silly results of socialist thinking.


I've searched my socialist handbook in vain, trying to find the section on how I'm supposed to pee. It is my socialist thinking, however, that leads me to suspect that it's the men of the upper middle class and above, fearful of standing at the public urinals with the hoi polloi, who flee into the stalls and wee wee on the seats.

[a_unique_person]

I would just like to say that, as a Swedish citizen and a male, that I always pee sitting down. You can take this as conclusive proof that your source is true.

[deBergerac]

Originally posted by -=Vagrant=-
I've never heard anything about such a story. If it were true it should make some headlines here since Finland is Sweden's archenemy.

I am sure it would be making the headlines in all our neighbouring countries not only Finland if it was true. But believe me when I say that among Swedes Finland is not perceived as the archenemy of Sweden. We still think of you as the old backwards colony lost to the Russians. :)

[deBergerac]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite


It's a funny thing, but I've noticed that whenever I read something in the newspaper, hear it on the radio, see it on TV, etc, if I happen to have some inside knowledge on the event being portraid, the news report is always full of errors!. Somehow, given this fact, I can only surmise that when I read something in the news where I have no special knowledge, it is presumably full of errors as well.

Anyone else have this feeling?

All the time! I suppose that it is not surprising since the ones doing the reports are not experts of the field in question. It is especially annoying when they fail to give you any information. I remember once seeing a report about electro-magnetic fields being dangerous without it once being mentioned at what strength the field was. It is like telling you it is dangerous to drink water.

As for the Swedish men relieving themselves in Helsingor note that Helsingor is outside of Sweden perhaps they are only indulging in something they cannot do at home? :)

[Ove]

As for the Swedish men relieving themselves in Helsingor note that Helsingor is outside of Sweden perhaps they are only indulging in something they cannot do at home?

Yes, it's called Boozing.:D :D

Seriously this story must be cooked up in the mind of a very deranged right wing "commies-are-the-scum-of-the-world" type.

Jedi Knight???

It would fit nicely into his "feminazis-are-the-root-of-al-evil" way of thinking.:D

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


That is, you have bad aim. You should practise. I have good aim because I was taught by my mother when I was four years old. My father didn't think it was necessary, but mother prevailed.
My aim is fine thank you (notwithstanding the terms and conditions outlined previously). I blame it on the damn socialised toilets. :p

I can write my name in the snow with the proper calligraphy, can you? :p
You enjoy exposing your bits in public?!!

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by BillyTK

My aim is fine thank you (notwithstanding the terms and conditions outlined previously). I blame it on the damn socialised toilets. :p


You enjoy exposing your bits in public?!!

Not habitually, nor whipping it out in the freezing cold. But it's nice to know I can.

Not much freezing cold, this year. It's almost like summer out, despite it being October in Chicago. Global warming. Our president's fault or should I blame Mayor Daley?

Or maybe I should blame Mayor Bloomberg of New York? He's Jewish and sort of a Republican.