Those dang Christians

[Ruby]

Ok, so I know you are getting tired of links from RR but had to leave this one http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113761&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

I sort of gave my testimony...very rough deconversion type story....anyhow, it's hilarious and frustrating how the Christians are trying to justify things......say anything to detract from what becoming an agnostic has done for my life. AHH!!!!! :hit:

[Tez]

I think you have to sign up - I got a login page. Maybe you can post a few of the better ones?

[VicDaring]

Actually Ruby, speaking strictly fir myself, I'm not even close to being sick of RR.

They're pretty steamed at Bush for "honoring that false religon" (he breakfast with some Muslims) and slapping Gen. Rev. Boykin's wrist.

They're fun to read.

I'm finally registering so I can see this mystical Apologetics forum.

[Yahweh]

I just registered as Yahweh for the RaptureReady boards... I hope they dont mind :D...

For the skeptics who care, I recommend if you want to alleviate some of your boredom, head to the rapture ready boards and give those kids a dose and a half of skepticism.

[c4ts]

I love questioning other people's beliefs. It's a whole lot easier than questioning mine.

[TruthSeeker]

I was about to register, but I don't think we are welcome:

Subdermal Irritants: This is a private, moderated, Christian message board. We welcome people of all faiths to post here, but there always seem to be those select few who join solely for the purpose of mocking the faith of the members of the board or otherwise stirring up trouble for the sake of stirring up trouble. If this describes your motivation for joining, save both yourself and us the time and trouble and go elsewhere. We will not tolerate the mocking of our board, our members, our faith, and most importantly, our Lord.


Oh my, just makes it that much harder not to join...

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

****!

[Eos of the Eons]

http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/fundies/fstdt_oct03.htm#update

I love that site!! They collect all the craziest things said on Fundie boards into one place where we can all enjoy and laugh at them.

""Two nights ago I was driving home from work, drunk off my f***ing ass. I was in no condition to drive whatsoever. Anyways, I go down the road about a mile and run right over the f***ing curb, both wheels up onto the curb. At that point I got really scared, so I prayed... my prayer was answered almost instantly. Something tookover my body... This entity controlled my truck perfectly there is no other way to describe it...

Two cops also passed me by on the way home, it's a damn gurantee I would have been pulled over and arrested if God had not intervened. Current science could not explain any of these events to me sufficiently. There is no way to explain my sudden regain of complete and perfect control in my drunken state (about 12 beers, thats a LOT for me)." [Emphasis added]
- UserFriendly, BlizzForums

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[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
""Two nights ago I was driving home from work, drunk off my f***ing ass. I was in no condition to drive whatsoever. Anyways, I go down the road about a mile and run right over the f***ing curb, both wheels up onto the curb. At that point I got really scared, so I prayed... my prayer was answered almost instantly. Something tookover my body... This entity controlled my truck perfectly there is no other way to describe it...

Two cops also passed me by on the way home, it's a damn gurantee I would have been pulled over and arrested if God had not intervened. Current science could not explain any of these events to me sufficiently. There is no way to explain my sudden regain of complete and perfect control in my drunken state (about 12 beers, thats a LOT for me)." [Emphasis added]
- UserFriendly, BlizzForums


I find that f***ing frightening.

[Eos of the Eons]

""When God destroyed the world before, He saved Noah and his family only. There were MANY children (of all ages) who perished in the flood. We are told that the End Times, they will be like 'the days of Noah'... Stop thinking earthly and start thinking heavenly. Lean not unto thine own understanding."
- Ynott, RaptureReady


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"Often people say God is just or fair and would not let children die in this manner or suffer this way. But The God of the OT is still the same God. In the book of 1 Samuel He instructed Saul to kill everything living thing.. animals, men, women, and children when they conquered that city... Children suffer horrible in other third world countries daily... I do lean toward... those with no christian parents being left behind to find their own way to christ before it is to late."
- Mommy2KandM, RaptureReady

:hit:

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Ratman_tf
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I find that f***ing frightening. [/B]


Christian justifications always scare me

There's lots of RR quotes on the fundies say the darndest thing site too. They're a kooky bunch.

"We have to realize that in almost NO cases are Evolutionist leaders out to reach truth. They are rather out to avoid truth. The notion that those people are truly scientific is about as unlikely a possibility as will ever be reached. What we should remember is that Evolutionists are not interested in science – nearly as much as they are interested in convincing You – that they are “scientific”. The aura of being “scientific” is what is important to them."- seeker42, RaptureReady


:hit: :hit: :hit:

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Originally posted by Ratman_tf
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I find that f***ing frightening. [/B]

Now why have I been f***ing censoring my swearing? Not anymore! F***k it!

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by traveller


Now why have I been f***ing censoring my swearing? Not anymore! F*** it!


I only save it for really appropriate times, then it's more a show of how really really disgusted you are. Like Ratman_tf' s reaction to the truly scary quote he quoted.

[Eos of the Eons]

*** *** Bigot of the Month ***

"Can you be certain that those detained individuals in those pictures [of Nazi death camps] did not do one of the following... sexually enslave children... commit ritual child homicide... preside over the slaughter of innocent eastern European farmers... practice usery... profit from gambling...?"
- Consistent Thinker, Internet Infidels

***

Now that is truly f***ing idiotical christian skepticism for ya!!

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Tez
I think you have to sign up - I got a login page. Maybe you can post a few of the better ones?

Yep, they have closed up shop.

[Robaato]

Enough with the swearing, folks. Even if you want to quote what others have said on boards with different rules, the "F-word" is not allowed here.

[Eos of the Eons]

Ah sheep, sorry. :c2:

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Originally posted by Raja
Enough with the swearing, folks. Even if you want to quote what others have said on boards with different rules, the "F-word" is not allowed here.

No! Swearing on this board would help to improve JREF!:hit:

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Originally posted by traveller


No! Swearing on this board would help to improve JREF!:hit:

I'm going to pm or email randi himself about this! He should be considered irrational if he does not allow swearing!

:crazy:

Originally posted by invisible pink unicorn


Why don't you shut up troll they will always think your lying about me.

F*u* you unicorn! I will expose the truth you dumb horse bitch!

[RebeccaBradley]

Ruby, I'm really interested in seeing what you said on the RR board, and have gone to the lengths of registering and all, but your link is still blocked. Can you tell me which forum and thread you were posting on? Thanks! Rebecca

[tamiO]

Originally posted by traveller


I'm going to pm or email randi himself about this! He should be considered irrational if he does not allow swearing!

:crazy:



F*u* you unicorn! I will expose the truth you dumb horse bitch!

Please keep swearing. :)
Don't let these moderators push you around.

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
Ruby, I'm really interested in seeing what you said on the RR board, and have gone to the lengths of registering and all, but your link is still blocked. Can you tell me which forum and thread you were posting on? Thanks! Rebecca

Your account as I see it is registered now. But it will still have to be activated. They say in their FAQ that this may take 36-48 hours. It took 4 days for me.:rolleyes:

When your account is activated, you will be able to see the member's section. There is this mystified apologetics forum.

You will be able then to follow the link in Ruby's opening post.

[RebeccaBradley]

Thanks, m'lud. Guess I'll just have to be patient....:j1:

[Wile E. Coyote]

It has been over a week and mine has not yet been activated. I registered under Wile E. Coyote. Is that offensive somehow?

[A_Feeble_Mind]

Originally posted by Wile E. Coyote
It has been over a week and mine has not yet been activated. I registered under Wile E. Coyote. Is that offensive somehow?

Not offensive, but it is not likely someone native to those boards would choose such a secular name.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Cartoons are early indoctrination tools used by the Devil himself. Cartoons are also used to draw kids into the dangerous dark world of video games. They start out young, collecting carrots as Bugs Bunny, or some other seemingly innocuous fun. Eventually, however they graduate to performing Satanic sex rituals in games like GTA III. Then the Dark Lord truly has their souls. So, yeah, Wile E. Coyote is offensive.

:D :D :D

[Wile E. Coyote]

Well, I searched the FAQ and found an e-mail address to which I can write to inquire about my registration. I signed it "Yours in Christ", which made my stomach turn.

I have no intentions of ridiculing them. I just want to ask some very tough questions. Maybe I should have chosen something like "Sheep Man" or "Shepherd's Lackey", but that might have given the wrong impression.

[Ruby]

Originally posted by Tez
I think you have to sign up - I got a login page. Maybe you can post a few of the better ones?

Yep, you will need to sign up. sorry.

[Ruby]

Originally posted by VicDaring
Actually Ruby, speaking strictly fir myself, I'm not even close to being sick of RR.

They're pretty steamed at Bush for "honoring that false religon" (he breakfast with some Muslims) and slapping Gen. Rev. Boykin's wrist.

They're fun to read.

I'm finally registering so I can see this mystical Apologetics forum.

Cool!!!:)

[Ruby]

Originally posted by Yahweh
I just registered as Yahweh for the RaptureReady boards... I hope they dont mind :D...

For the skeptics who care, I recommend if you want to alleviate some of your boredom, head to the rapture ready boards and give those kids a dose and a half of skepticism.

Sometimes I am blown away by the things they say over there....but every once in awhile, I am pleasantly surprised. I try very hard to respect the Christian belief of others. I am not out to attack. I have to keep reminding myself that not all Christians are bad and cruel. It's just that so many seem trapped......and I hate that as I was once in that sort of prison.

[Ruby]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
:hit:

Those quotes are.....yikes!!!!:j2: :arrow: :eek:

[Ruby]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
Ruby, I'm really interested in seeing what you said on the RR board, and have gone to the lengths of registering and all, but your link is still blocked. Can you tell me which forum and thread you were posting on? Thanks! Rebecca

Hi!!

I was posting in the "apologetics" forum. The thread title is "Christianity still good, even if false?". They might have a 24 hour wait on new members before they post in apologetics. :(

[Yahzi]

I have never seen a board with such a high number of obviously disturbed people. Suicide, panic attacks, depression, lonliness...

One girl was going on about how her sister makes her ill, because the sister is getting married and the girl can't even get a date.

:o

It's downright sad.

[Eos of the Eons]

Hey, why bother joining RR when you can read the best stuff on the link I provided? You don't need to register to see all the stuff from the fundie boards there.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
Hey, why bother joining RR when you can read the best stuff on the link I provided? You don't need to register to see all the stuff from the fundie boards there.


I just read the site you linked. Bizarre, hilarious and sad!

I like the RR board because you can read the responses and see how these bizarre discussions evolve.

I am also eager to see how long any of our members who post there will survive.

[Eos of the Eons]

Hey, keep a tally and report here as to who gets banned first after how many days, who gets second, etc.:)

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Yahzi
I have never seen a board with such a high number of obviously disturbed people. Suicide, panic attacks, depression, lonliness...

One girl was going on about how her sister makes her ill, because the sister is getting married and the girl can't even get a date.

:o

It's downright sad.

You would never see atheists suffering depression or being lonely, would you.

http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29812

[Ossai]

I just registered at Rapture Ready under Ossai. I looked at the forum layout, where is the appologetics forum/thread?

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by Wile E. Coyote
It has been over a week and mine has not yet been activated. I registered under Wile E. Coyote. Is that offensive somehow?

Are you definetly sure that you have clicked link the confirmation mail they sent you? If you click it again and it says that you are in a moderation queue, then you have.

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by Ossai
I just registered at Rapture Ready under Ossai. I looked at the forum layout, where is the appologetics forum/thread?

You are registered, but not yet activated. When your account is activated you can find it in the members section.

[Bookwyrm]

Eos of the Eons, talking about the Bigot of the Month, said


Now that is truly f***ing idiotical christian skepticism for ya!!

Actually it's not. consistent thinker was 'awarded' the title of bigot of the month, but when WinAce added him to Fundies Say the Darndest Things he considered creating a 'you don't have to be christian to be a fundy idiot' award, just for him. Consistent thinker is an atheist, or at least that's what it says in his profile over at iidb, and while he has displayed bigotry and ignorance of both history and the science of evolution he has given no reason (except possibly the inclusion of usury in his list of crimes which he feels could somehow justify the Nazi treatment of the Jews) to doubt that he is an atheist, albeit a rather irrational and uninformed one.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Bookwyrm


Actually it's not. consistent thinker was 'awarded' the title of bigot of the month, but when WinAce added him to Fundies Say the Darndest Things he considered creating a 'you don't have to be christian to be a fundy idiot' award, just for him. Consistent thinker is an atheist, or at least that's what it says in his profile over at iidb, and while he has displayed bigotry and ignorance of both history and the science of evolution he has given no reason (except possibly the inclusion of usury in his list of crimes which he feels could somehow justify the Nazi treatment of the Jews) to doubt that he is an atheist, albeit a rather irrational and uninformed one.


I'll have to take your word for it. Was the board he posted it on a fundy board? Why haven't they banned him for being a ridiculous Jack*ss? Maybe they keep him around to prove their point about how horrible atheists are?

[Yahweh]

I registered for the name Yahweh on Oct. 29, I read the Rapture Ready FAQ and they say account verification takes 48 to 36 hours... I'm just waiting as patiently as I can...

*twitch*

[the_ignored]

Heh! I like this title for a thread in Apologetics:

"You Can’t Prove False The Presence Of The HOLY SPIRIT Dwelling Within Us Christians!" with a "thumbs up"! sign in front of it yet!

[triadboy]

Originally posted by Yahweh
I registered for the name Yahweh on Oct. 29, I read the Rapture Ready FAQ and they say account verification takes 48 to 36 hours... I'm just waiting as patiently as I can...


I am registered and have visited some threads, but I just can't start with them. I read a thread where someone asked what the 'firmament' was. I was anxious to see if someone actually knew.

[As you can imagine - the ultimate definition would come from the science of the day - and the Jewish commentaries on the Torah. The firmament was a clear, firm 'colander bowl' set in the sky that held back the 'waters from above' The sun, moon, and stars were fixed to this dome and moved along the inside. When it rained - holes would open up in the firmament letting the waters through. This was the science of the region at that time. The Jewish commentaries followed suit and described the firmament as 3 fingers thick.]

The answer given on the thread was the firmament was the earth's crust!

I poised my fingers ready to type - and then surrendered.

[Bookwyrm]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons

I'll have to take your word for it. Was the board he posted it on a fundy board? Why haven't they banned him for being a ridiculous Jack*ss? Maybe they keep him around to prove their point about how horrible atheists are?

Nope, not a fundy board. He posts on the Internet Infidels Discussion Board (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php) and he's still around because at iidb being a ridiculous jack*ss isn't enough, in and of itself, to get a poster banned. Though if you go to any of the threads in which he's posted you'll note that it is enough to get him mocked mercilessly.

[Eos of the Eons]

Originally posted by Bookwyrm


Nope, not a fundy board. He posts on the Internet Infidels Discussion Board (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php) and he's still around because at iidb being a ridiculous jack*ss isn't enough, in and of itself, to get a poster banned. Though if you go to any of the threads in which he's posted you'll note that it is enough to get him mocked mercilessly.

Interesting boards

Freethought Humor, Jokes, Etc.
Christians and other theists be warned: what we find to be funny may be in extremely bad taste or even very offensive to you!


LOL!! I like the warning there. It seems all are welcome, but I can see how some whackos may end up there. Would be fun to go badger the guy, but don't feel like it tonight.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by triadboy
[As you can imagine - the ultimate definition would come from the science of the day - and the Jewish commentaries on the Torah. The firmament was a clear, firm 'colander bowl' set in the sky that held back the 'waters from above' The sun, moon, and stars were fixed to this dome and moved along the inside. When it rained - holes would open up in the firmament letting the waters through. This was the science of the region at that time. The Jewish commentaries followed suit and described the firmament as 3 fingers thick.]
That is some of the most D&D/Final Fantasy/H.P. Lovecraft bull I've ever heard in my life, who thinks up this crap?!

[triadboy]

Originally posted by Yahweh
That is some of the most D&D/Final Fantasy/H.P. Lovecraft bull I've ever heard in my life, who thinks up this crap?!

You can imagine that if water falls from the sky - there must be water up there somewhere. Why doesn't it just fall down all the time? There's something holding it back. The firmament.

How do the stars, Moon and Sun seems to circle around and not fall down? They're fixed to something. The firmament.

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1:6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

1:7
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

1:8
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

1:9
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
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1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

1:15
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

1:16
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

1:17
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
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As an accident of perspective, the moon and the sun appear to be the same size - which I'm sure added to the confusion.

[TruthSeeker]

Triadboy,
I agree that the explanation/theory made sense given the information available at the time. No problem with that.

What astonishes me is that these obvious "theoretical errors" have not led to a questioning of other aspects of the stories.

Surely, modern believers in the creation stories do not believe in the firmament (do they?) and yet they believe the rest of it. There is a real disconnect there.

[triadboy]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker

Surely, modern believers in the creation stories do not believe in the firmament (do they?) and yet they believe the rest of it. There is a real disconnect there.

Xians have a hard time with this one. They tend to just say - it's just the sky. But the Jewish commentaries make it clear that is not the case.

As further proof: The word 'firmament' (Latin firmamentum) is a translation of the Greek "stereoma", which means "a hard object" and which is, in turn, a translation of the Hebrew "rakia" meaning "a thin metal plate". (Asimov)

The disconnect is science. Here is what the ancients thought:

- They considered the earth as the center of the visible universe

- It is placed above a mass of water, like a great island on mysterious pilings

- From this unfathomable depth come springs, streams, rivers, and lakes

- The earth is covered by a very firm, concave ceiling which rests at its extremities on high mountains and which supports the waters that fall from above through openings in the arch

- The planets and stars travel across the inner surface of the arch at night; they pass mysteriously beneath the earth during the day

- Below ground level is the somber dwelling to which the dead descend

- Above the sky, in the heavens, dwell the divinities

(Father Georges Auzou commenting on the beliefs of all ancient people in the Near East)

[TruthSeeker]

Thank you for the detailed explanation. If you can, could you indicate which (if any) a Christian fundie might still believe?

[triadboy]

The fundie will say the firmament is the sky. Because - of course - there is no clear dome over the sky - that's just silly.

Just as now, it is obvious the earth is not the center of the universe.

However, since no proof exists otherwise - there was a talking snake.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by triadboy
The fundie will say the firmament is the sky. Because - of course - there is no clear dome over the sky - that's just silly.

Just as now, it is obvious the earth is not the center of the universe.

However, since no proof exists otherwise - there was a talking snake.

Thanks.

Firmament - just silly
Talking snake - true


Got it. :D

[RebeccaBradley]

Well, it's been nearly two weeks since I registered for the Rapture Ready board in keen anticipation, and I'm still out in the cold (i.e., unactivated). Starting to feel like the last player chosen up for softball. :(

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
Well, it's been nearly two weeks since I registered for the Rapture Ready board in keen anticipation, and I'm still out in the cold (i.e., unactivated). Starting to feel like the last player chosen up for softball. :(

This is strange. Are you sure that you clicked the link they provided in the E-Mail that they should've sent you (the subject line says something like "Action required to...")?

[RebeccaBradley]

Hi, Lord Em. Yup, I clicked properly n'everything, and the board greets me by name when I log in, but when I try to post or access the members page, I get the you-ain't-activated message. And I've emailed them twice about it, with no reply. Starting to feel unloved. However, I've spent quite a bit of time just reading the posts that are open to guest lurkers, and I'm entranced.

[Ruby]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
Well, it's been nearly two weeks since I registered for the Rapture Ready board in keen anticipation, and I'm still out in the cold (i.e., unactivated). Starting to feel like the last player chosen up for softball. :(

Oh no, sorry to hear that!!

I have taken a break. It was getting on my nerves. :mad:

[RebeccaBradley]

Hi Ruby. Aw heck, I'll live with the rejection. (I'm a writer, and writers are used to rejection. In fact, we get all anxious and twitchy when we're not rejected.) I only wanted to be activated so I could follow the link with which you started this thread - but from what I observed on the RR board, I can kinda imagine what was said to you anyway.

But for the record, did anybody else have difficulties or delays getting on to the RR board?

[triadboy]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
But for the record, did anybody else have difficulties or delays getting on to the RR board?

For some reason they won't let me post. Oh well - I'll just post here.