Palin and The Bush Doctrine

[billydkid]

I was thinking about that interview with Palin where she couldn't say what the Bush Doctrine was. To be honest, I would be surprised if Dubya himself could tell you what the Bush Doctrine is. I would be mildly surprised if McCain could. I guarantee you that Obama could. It is the idea of using "pre-emptive" war to prevent terrorist attacks, right? The premise being that it is self defense to attack another country because we have decided they are a potential threat? Is that right?

Rather than start another new thread let me ask this. Obama himself remarked on the remarkably ability Democrats have to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. I understand that the national polls narrowed dramatically after the last debate. How likely is it that the Dems will manage to do the same thing yet again. It appears to me to be a real threat. Frankly, it is beyond me how anyone could watch any of the debates and feel like they want McCain at the helm. The guy is a marginal person and obviously not all there. At this point it has little to do with policy. You have to ask yourself which guy would want looking after your kids and, frankly, I would be afraid to have McCain around my kids. He will either drop dead in front of them or he will go psycho. I'm sorry, the guy is just not normal.

[JoeTheJuggler]

You're about right. I'd quibble with the terminology. Preemptive war is recognized by international law as legal (if you're in imminent threat of an attack, you can strike first to prevent it). The Bush Doctrine is about preventive war. Preventive war, by international treaty, is not legal.

ETA: The second paragraph was added to the OP after I responded to it. The post I responded to only had the first paragraph.

[Oliver]

I was thinking about that interview with Palin where she couldn't say what the Bush Doctrine was. To be honest, I would be surprised if Dubya himself could tell you what the Bush Doctrine is. I would mildly surprised if McCain could. I guarantee you that Obama could. It is the idea of using "pre-emptive" war to prevent terrorist attacks, right? The premise being that it is self defense to attack another country because we have decided they are a potential threat? Is that right?

Rather than start another new thread let me ask this. Obama himself remarked on the remarkably ability Democrats have to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. I understand that the national polls narrowed dramatically after the last debate. How likely is it that the Dems will manage to do the same thing yet again. It appears to me to be a real threat. Frankly, it is beyond me how anyone could watch any of the debates and feel like they want McCain at the helm. The guy is a marginal person and obviously not all there. At this point it has little to do with policy. You have to ask yourself which guy would want looking after your kids and, frankly, I would be afraid to have McCain around my kids. He will either drop dead in front of them or he will go psycho. I'm sorry, the guy is just not normal.


You forgot the religious freaks and those who think that liberals
are crazy people bringing socialism and communism. Essentially
that's what you get when propagating fears over decades:

Paranoia

Concerning the Bush doctrine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy) principles of United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) president George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush), created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks). The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to aggressively secure itself from countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups, which was used to justify the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-0)Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventive_war), which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventionism) that represented a potential or perceived threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate (used to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq)); a policy of encouraging democracy around the world, especially in the Middle East (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East), as a strategy for combating the spread of terrorism; and a willingness to pursue U.S. military interests in a unilateral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilateral) way.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-3) Some of these policies were codified in a National Security Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Security_Council) text entitled the National Security Strategy of the United States published on September 20, 2002.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-NSC-4) *snip* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine#cite_note-NSC-4)

[EGarrett]

I was thinking about that interview with Palin where she couldn't say what the Bush Doctrine was. To be honest, I would be surprised if Dubya himself could tell you what the Bush Doctrine is. I would be mildly surprised if McCain could. I guarantee you that Obama could. It is the idea of using "pre-emptive" war to prevent terrorist attacks, right? The premise being that it is self defense to attack another country because we have decided they are a potential threat? Is that right?

Rather than start another new thread let me ask this. Obama himself remarked on the remarkably ability Democrats have to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. I understand that the national polls narrowed dramatically after the last debate. How likely is it that the Dems will manage to do the same thing yet again. It appears to me to be a real threat. Frankly, it is beyond me how anyone could watch any of the debates and feel like they want McCain at the helm. The guy is a marginal person and obviously not all there. At this point it has little to do with policy. You have to ask yourself which guy would want looking after your kids and, frankly, I would be afraid to have McCain around my kids. He will either drop dead in front of them or he will go psycho. I'm sorry, the guy is just not normal.Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen a thread derailed in the OP.