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INRM
19th October 2008, 11:39 AM
Is it true that starting a few years ago, there began appearing One World Government liscence plates:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/euusa0b.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/usaeunm.gif

Like these, they were and are optional of course. But the fact that there even ARE such liscence plates has me wondering, is there a plan actively in motion to produce a one world government?


INRM

Darat
19th October 2008, 11:43 AM
No.

dudalb
19th October 2008, 12:28 PM
That is the freaking New Mexico State flag.
Many states have the state flag as a design on their licence plates.
Where do people dig up this crap?

Nyarlathotep
19th October 2008, 12:31 PM
Because, you know, if I were secretly planning a one world government, the very FIRST thing I am going to do is put out license plates. All the other details of creating a one world government utterly pale in importance to insuring that the world wide DMV bureaucracy is already in place when I make my move.

Jonnyclueless
19th October 2008, 12:31 PM
Maybe he meant a one-state government?

Nyarlathotep
19th October 2008, 12:34 PM
I for one welcome our New Mexican overlords.

Nyarlathotep
19th October 2008, 12:38 PM
That is the freaking New Mexico State flag.
Many states have the state flag as a design on their licence plates.
Where do people dig up this crap?

same place this lady (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8) came from

Gord_in_Toronto
19th October 2008, 12:39 PM
No.

No?

That's what your NWO Masters told you to say, isn't it? :p

The truth is dear INRM that they have also introduced an International Driving Permit (IDP)!!!

See:

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/main/before/faq/international_driving-en.asp

The IDP is valid in all countries that have signed the 1949 Convention on Road Traffic. It is also recognized in many countries that are not signatories to the Convention.

Hokulele
19th October 2008, 12:41 PM
And the first license plate shows the U.S. flag. Considering the U.S. can't even get its standard units straight (hello, metric please!), why should I assume they control everything else?

gnome
19th October 2008, 12:43 PM
Not to mention even if it was some kind of actual NWO flag, I don't know about license plates but plenty of vendors sell merchandise with fictional or speculative logos on them.

Look at the Amero...

UserGoogol
19th October 2008, 12:48 PM
I don't see why a world government (even an evil one motivated by spite) would have any inclination to change people's license plates. Having license plate designs vary by state is just convenient, in that it makes them easier to identify. I mean, it might be an okay idea if they were to make license plate numbers longer, (such that a license plate number would be a unique identifier worldwide) but that's just as long as license plates in New Mexico currently are, and as such a hypothetical UN Police Force would have to strain their eyes quite a bit to figure out what state/nation the plate was from.

rwguinn
19th October 2008, 02:24 PM
But..but
Roswell (1947!) is in New Mexico
White Sands Missile Range is in New Mexico
The first A-bomb? New Mexico
Farmington (not as famous as Roswell)? New Mexico!

It all makes sense.
You may now bow to me...

defaultdotxbe
19th October 2008, 03:10 PM
i think better evidence of a one world government is the US license plates, but in the european style

US plates are not as wide
http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/new-mexico/21021d1212781576-you-know-youre-new-mexico-when-nm-license.jpt.jpg

gtc
19th October 2008, 03:32 PM
I think these are 'novelty' (i.e. not real) plates designed to look like European plates. Some American states require only a rear plate and I have seen examples of European made cars carrying authentic European plates on the front.

I found a website which sells similar novelty plates with a disclaimer that they are not real plates, should not replace real plates, are only for the front of cars (if legal) or otherwise are simply a novelty.

Thunder
19th October 2008, 04:18 PM
Is it true that starting a few years ago, there began appearing One World Government liscence plates:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/euusa0b.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/usaeunm.gif

Like these, they were and are optional of course. But the fact that there even ARE such liscence plates has me wondering, is there a plan actively in motion to produce a one world government?


INRM

Um, when I saw the title of this thread, I assumed that there would be a picture of a license plate with a map of North America or the world attached. I dont see how a Euro style license plate, with the flag of new Mexico on it, can be understood as being a NWO plate.

i think a few folks around the States like the Euro shape and style plates cause they think they are cool.. thats about it.

very confused....but not very surprised.

UserGoogol
19th October 2008, 05:34 PM
Um, when I saw the title of this thread, I assumed that there would be a picture of a license plate with a map of North America or the world attached. I dont see how a Euro style license plate, with the flag of new Mexico on it, can be understood as being a NWO plate.

i think a few folks around the States like the Euro shape and style plates cause they think they are cool.. thats about it.

very confused....but not very surprised.

Not to put words into anyone's mouth, but perhaps the idea is that Europe is a godless land of foreigners and additionally is one where the internationalists have a firmer grip on things (that is, the EU) and as such, the evil world government people want to make the United States more like Europe, and therefore if they wanted to standardize license plate styles (which as I pointed out seems like an odd thing to do) they would go for something in a European mode.

Thunder
19th October 2008, 05:37 PM
we must admit..the EU plates are much clearer to read. letters are much larger and have no doofy backgrounds.

INRM
19th October 2008, 08:01 PM
The truth is dear INRM that they have also introduced an International Driving Permit (IDP)!!!

See:

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/main/before/faq/international_driving-en.asp


International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...

lee5
19th October 2008, 08:20 PM
International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...

:rolleyes:

You just made yourself look like an idiot for posting a Mexican license plate and calling it one world order and what do you do?

Jump onto another idiotic topic.

Holy crap, you are trying waaay to hard to believe this arent you?

Thunder
19th October 2008, 08:27 PM
International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...

Alright. Fine. I give up. These are all signs of a New World Order. Are you happy?

Embrace the NWO. They love you.

Cl1mh4224rd
19th October 2008, 08:27 PM
International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...


The NWO moves slower than my now-deceased grandmother. The IDP's been around for nearly 60 years...

KDLarsen
19th October 2008, 11:16 PM
I'm sort of surprised that you would be asking the question, ShyFlyer (if that is you, from airliners.net), given that you would be in a good position to have insider info ;)

I would much sooner have seen BlackBird raise such an issue :D

fromdownunder
20th October 2008, 12:19 AM
When the One World Government starts forcing everyone to drive on the correct side of the road (the left) I will become a true believer.

Norm

Foolmewunz
20th October 2008, 04:03 AM
I'm confused. Why would a one-world government have license plates identifying the driver/vehicle as being from the USA? Wouldn't it just be a section of this much hyped New World Order, and no longer identified as USA?

And with that one indicating USA-1, it would seem that they're going to need some big ol' plates when they get up to

USA - 132,997,443

Travis
20th October 2008, 04:10 AM
When the One World Government starts forcing everyone to drive on the correct side of the road (the left) I will become a true believer.

Norm

How about this, the USA adopts the metric system (something it should do anyways) and you guys do a Sweden and switch from left to right.

Shrinker
20th October 2008, 06:12 AM
So to summarise the thread

Is it true that starting a few years ago, there began appearing One World Government liscence plates:


But the fact that there even ARE such liscence plates has me wondering, is there a plan actively in motion to produce a one world government?


International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...


Well that's cleared that up neatly. What, some other people posted too?

Klimax
20th October 2008, 06:28 AM
When the One World Government starts forcing everyone to drive on the correct side of the road (the left) I will become a true believer.

Norm

[Derail]No,when you will drive on the right side...[/END]

Ocelot
20th October 2008, 06:39 AM
Step 1: Unify World License Plates
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit!

It's all so clear now, how could we have been so blind.

Ocelot
20th October 2008, 06:44 AM
[Derail]No,when you will drive on the right side...[/END]

I'll never drive on the french side of the road like you toadies of Napoleon. I need to have my sword hand free to defend against highwaymen!

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/634/why-do-the-british-drive-on-the-left

RoboTimbo
20th October 2008, 07:20 AM
I'll never drive on the french side of the road like you toadies of Napoleon. I need to have my sword hand free to defend against highwaymen!

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/634/why-do-the-british-drive-on-the-left


They'll have to pry the gearshift from my cold, dead RIGHT hand. But I do have a bumper sticker that says, "My other government is the NWO"

Ocelot
20th October 2008, 08:06 AM
They'll have to pry the gearshift from my cold, dead RIGHT hand. But I do have a bumper sticker that says, "My other government is the NWO"

But if you hold the gear stick in your right hand you'll be facing backwards silly!

TjW
20th October 2008, 09:12 AM
When the One World Government starts forcing everyone to drive on the correct side of the road (the left) I will become a true believer.

Norm

They're going to phase it in gradually. The first year, even-numbered plates will drive on the left, and odd numbers will remain on the right.
The second year, there should be much less traffic.

Klimax
20th October 2008, 02:00 PM
I'll never drive on the french side of the road like you toadies of Napoleon. I need to have my sword hand free to defend against highwaymen!

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/634/why-do-the-british-drive-on-the-left

Wait what the hell has France and Napoleon got whit this??? I thought Hitler introduced this.(Maybe myistake?)Anyway entire Europe with one small insignificant and regretable exception is driving on the right...

And why sword?I thought you had installed machinegun on the roof!

:D:D

Corsair 115
20th October 2008, 02:09 PM
So, where does the Amero fit into all this? Inquiring minds want to know!

Gord_in_Toronto
20th October 2008, 02:27 PM
International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...

:SNICKER:

Something we should all be thankful for. :p

Gord_in_Toronto
20th October 2008, 02:31 PM
The NWO moves slower than my now-deceased grandmother. The IDP's been around for nearly 60 years...

Well you know that and I know that but we are not allowed to tell anyone until the takeover is complete.

Nyarlathotep
20th October 2008, 04:59 PM
International Driving Permit, International Liscence Plate. All examples of a move towards a one world government...

'Cuz as I said before, the A Number 1 Top Priority for THEM (DAH DAH DAAAAAAAAH)tmto take as a first step in establishing the New World Order/Workers Paradise/4th Reich/Whatever is to make sure that the internation DMV bureacracy is in place.

Geez

roger
20th October 2008, 05:02 PM
Can you friggin imagine how long the lines at the DMV are going to be now? :mad:

Nyarlathotep
20th October 2008, 05:06 PM
Can you friggin imagine how long the lines at the DMV are going to be now? :mad:

And if you think DMV employees are surly now, wait until the guy behind the counter is a surly Frenchman

[Stereotypical Rude French Waiter]

"You have failed your Drivair's Test, you steeewpid fool.

[/Stereotypical Rude French Waiter]

Hokulele
20th October 2008, 06:32 PM
Does that mean if I request a vanity plate, it will be translated to French? Damn, I had enough trouble with 133t.

Tippit
20th October 2008, 07:09 PM
Because, you know, if I were secretly planning a one world government, the very FIRST thing I am going to do is put out license plates. All the other details of creating a one world government utterly pale in importance to insuring that the world wide DMV bureaucracy is already in place when I make my move.

It's funny you say that, because the very aspect of the DMV that you think is ridiculous as it pertains to the New World Order conspiracy is the one that is crucial to their goals. The DMV/traffic court system is the crux because it controls the issuance of driver's licenses and state IDs, and because it represents the most common point of contact between the ordinary citizen, and law enforcement. It goes without saying that state-issued ID is ubiquitous for anyone who wants to live in modern society and open bank accounts, or move about freely in cars, or across borders. By increasing the jurisdiction of the ID-issuing agency you increase the power that agency has over the citizen correspondingly. If one unpaid parking ticket would result in the forfeiture of your license *and* the inability to obtain one elsewhere, it would constitute a severe threat to your livelihood and your ability to move freely.

I once received a notice in the mail from the Bay Area Toll Authority in San Francisco. The letter claimed that I had evaded a toll device on the Golden Gate Bridge, and was subject to a steep fine, with all the associated threats if I did not pay it. It listed my license plate as proof. The only problem was, I've never been to San Francisco, I was in Miami at the time, and my car was garaged in San Diego. If I wasn't prepared with airline ticket stubs and evidence that I wasn't in San Francisco, I would have had to either pay up, or else.

I wrote them a letter asking how they obtained my license plate, and for any photos or other evidence. I also provided the evidence that I was in Miami, and they wrote me back saying only that the issue had been dropped.

The more powerful an ID-issuing agency is, the more lucrative a punitive traffic court system would be. The threat of losing a national ID is much more severe than just a state ID, and fines and penalties could be ratcheted up for windfall profits. Whether or not this would be done would be a function of how corrupt the government is, and how much restraint it would have. Most people would rather pay the "tax" than to risk their livelihoods. Incrementally higher profits could be achieved by making licenses dependent on good credit, or passage through an airport or bus terminal dependent on no outstanding parking tickets or misdemeanor warrants. To some this may be a good thing, to others, it represents an encroaching police state. It's hard to deny that more and more behavior is being criminalized, that prison construction is on the rise, and that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Bruce Schneier a cryptography expert had a thread on the Real ID Act (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/05/real_id.html). Apparently the act facilitates the sharing of DMV data between the Mexican and Canadian governments. Does this raise the possibility of corrupt Mexican bureaucrats citing US citizens for traffic violations, or invading their privacy and obtaining confidential data? Perhaps not now, but what about the near future?

Highly Selassie
20th October 2008, 07:25 PM
It's funny you say that, because the very aspect of the DMV that you think is ridiculous as it pertains to the New World Order conspiracy is the one that is crucial to their goals. The DMV/traffic court system is the crux because it controls the issuance of driver's licenses and state IDs, and because it represents the most common point of contact between the ordinary citizen, and law enforcement. It goes without saying that state-issued ID is ubiquitous for anyone who wants to live in modern society and open bank accounts, or move about freely in cars, or across borders. By increasing the jurisdiction of the ID-issuing agency you increase the power that agency has over the citizen correspondingly. If one unpaid parking ticket would result in the forfeiture of your license *and* the inability to obtain one elsewhere, it would constitute a severe threat to your livelihood and your ability to move freely.

Good thing there's checks and balances to stop these abuses from happening. Also, you use this word "ubiquitous". I do not think it means what you think it means.

Hokulele
20th October 2008, 08:15 PM
It's funny you say that, because the very aspect of the DMV that you think is ridiculous as it pertains to the New World Order conspiracy is the one that is crucial to their goals. The DMV/traffic court system is the crux because it controls the issuance of driver's licenses and state IDs, and because it represents the most common point of contact between the ordinary citizen, and law enforcement. It goes without saying that state-issued ID is ubiquitous for anyone who wants to live in modern society and open bank accounts, or move about freely in cars, or across borders. By increasing the jurisdiction of the ID-issuing agency you increase the power that agency has over the citizen correspondingly. If one unpaid parking ticket would result in the forfeiture of your license *and* the inability to obtain one elsewhere, it would constitute a severe threat to your livelihood and your ability to move freely.


Pah. Tell that to any underage college student in the U.S.

Tippit
20th October 2008, 08:26 PM
Good thing there's checks and balances to stop these abuses from happening. Also, you use this word "ubiquitous". I do not think it means what you think it means.

It means "everywhere", and I don't have faith in the "checks and balances".

PhantomWolf
20th October 2008, 08:47 PM
I wrote them a letter asking how they obtained my license plate, and for any photos or other evidence. I also provided the evidence that I was in Miami, and they wrote me back saying only that the issue had been dropped.

You ever considered the idea that perhaps some anonymous civil servant somewhere who has the thankless job of transcribing licence plate numbers from images had a bad monday and accidently reversed two numbers, a mistake that was found when you wrote and caused them to recheck the matter?

Cl1mh4224rd
20th October 2008, 09:29 PM
You ever considered the idea that perhaps some anonymous civil servant somewhere who has the thankless job of transcribing licence plate numbers from images had a bad monday and accidently reversed two numbers, a mistake that was found when you wrote and caused them to recheck the matter?


Indeed. My company publishes numerous bi-yearly booklets containing, amongst other things, phone numbers for various businesses in the area in which the booklet is published. Turns out the phone number we printed for a nursing home (or something equally innocent) ended up being a sex line. It was that way for... well, we're not sure how long, and we only found out about it when a random reader call it, then called us.

FreshHat
20th October 2008, 10:18 PM
URGENT MESSAGE FOR NWO

We are out of "BORT" license plates !

REPEAT : We are out of "BORT" license plates !

Highly Selassie
21st October 2008, 12:31 AM
It means "everywhere" Go back and substitute "everywhere" for "ubiquitous" in that sentence. It doesn't work.

and I don't have faith in the "checks and balances". That sounds like a personal problem to me. One thing NWO conspiracy theorists seem to forget is that the government is not controlled by one person. Even an individual agency in a government consists of many people of diverse backgrounds and viewpoints. The odds that someone would blow the whistle on an abuse of power are overwhelmingly in our (i.e. the people's) favour.

Ocelot
21st October 2008, 02:44 AM
Don't be ridiculous, Tippit's use of ubiquitous is perferctly correct. State sponsored ID is indeed prevalent enough to be found everywhere. Heck people don't even believe I was born if I don't show them my state issued certificate! :)

The point he was making however was rather undone by the example he gave where one state's ANPR was able to issue automated an fine to someone from another state. Making the various databases is compatible is not only possible without renumbering ever car, but has already evidently been done. The gubberment already has access to these databases. However as it stands if I get a speeding ticket in France it won't find its way to me in the UK but I expect that to change real soon now.

So, the integration of these databases is underway, I can see plenty of valid reasons to support such integration but if there are nefarious secret motives in addition to these, surely the last thing a secretive shadow gubberment would want to do is to publicise the issue with wide scale renumbering of limited technological appeal.

Ocelot
21st October 2008, 02:45 AM
It means "everywhere", and I don't have faith in the "checks and balances".

You ARE one of the checks and balances.

Shrinker
21st October 2008, 03:01 AM
The only problem was, I've never been to San Francisco, I was in Miami at the time, and my car was garaged in San Diego. If I wasn't prepared with airline ticket stubs and evidence that I wasn't in San Francisco, I would have had to either pay up, or else.

Tippit, the offender may have been a tourist from another country driving his own car. Due to a lack of cooperation between nations he could have a license plate with an identical number to a US car. ie. yours. What could be done to stop this happening again?

Travis
21st October 2008, 04:33 AM
So, wait, the Government screws up and thinks that Tippit is in one city when he is on the other side of the continent and that is evidence that Big Brother is everywhere? Wouldn't an example where the Government actually knew where you were when you thought they shouldn't be a better example?

I mean if I got back from spelunking in Crystal Mouth Cave and there was a letter for me:

Dear Travis,
Hope you enjoyed the Crystal Mouth Cave from 11:35 to 13:45 today.

Sincerely,
The FBI

I know I'd be freaked out.

roger
21st October 2008, 06:44 AM
And if you think DMV employees are surly now, wait until the guy behind the counter is a surly Frenchman

[Stereotypical Rude French Waiter]

"You have failed your Drivair's Test, you steeewpid fool.

[/Stereotypical Rude French Waiter]You SOB! I'm of French ancestry, and this cruel stereotyping has. to. stop. We are not surly!!! We merely get testy sometimes because we can't stand the stench. :mad:

TjW
21st October 2008, 08:40 AM
It means "everywhere", and I don't have faith in the "checks and balances".

You ARE one of the checks and balances.

Thus explaining his lack of faith.

Cuddles
21st October 2008, 08:42 AM
Wait what the hell has France and Napoleon got whit this??? I thought Hitler introduced this.(Maybe myistake?)

Nope, as explained in the link you replied to, it was all about Napoleon. The Nazis changed a couple of countries when they invaded them, but most were already on the right, and the only reason the Germans drove on the right was because of Napoleon anyway.

Anyway entire Europe with one small insignificant and regretable exception is driving on the right...

Well, if by "one" you mean "four" then yes.

I need to have my sword hand free to defend against highwaymen!

That's one story. However, anyone who's done any jousting will tell you that you ride on the left to show that you're not a threat, since you usually hold the lance across the horse's body to hit a person to your left. I think this sounds much more believeable than defending yourself from highwaymen, since any halfway intelligent highwayman would come at you from the side of the road and not just ride up to you like a normal traveller.

That said, I doubt either story is true. It's far more likely that it's either pure chance, they had to pick one side and it just happened to be left, or a holdover from an earlier tradition.

tomwaits
21st October 2008, 10:10 AM
It means "everywhere", and I don't have faith in the "checks and balances".

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Horatius
21st October 2008, 02:23 PM
I for one welcome our New Mexican overlords.



Okay, I'm confused. Are these "Overlords from 'New Mexico'", or are they a "New Set of 'Mexican Overlords'"?


It's so hard to figure out who to toadie to these days!

PhantomWolf
21st October 2008, 03:26 PM
Tippit, the offender may have been a tourist from another country driving his own car. Due to a lack of cooperation between nations he could have a license plate with an identical number to a US car. ie. yours. What could be done to stop this happening again?

Since he says his car was un a garage in San Deigo, I'm assuming he's a Californian, thus his car has Califorina licence plates. The most likely explaination is the one I gave earlier, a transpostion of two numbers when inputing the licence plate from a photo into the database. Likely when they got the letter back they checked the image and the number, sure it wasn't the same and droped the matter, sending a new letter to the real culprit. Funny thing really, humans make this sort of error all the time.

Tippit
21st October 2008, 03:52 PM
You ever considered the idea that perhaps some anonymous civil servant somewhere who has the thankless job of transcribing licence plate numbers from images had a bad monday and accidently reversed two numbers, a mistake that was found when you wrote and caused them to recheck the matter?

No, considering that OCR software is cheap, easy to use, and everywhere. I wasn't suggesting they were trying to frame me, I was relating the fact that the situation made me uncomfortable. I am sure that it was an honest mistake.

JimBenArm
21st October 2008, 03:54 PM
Since he says his car was un a garage in San Deigo, I'm assuming he's a Californian, thus his car has Califorina licence plates. The most likely explaination is the one I gave earlier, a transpostion of two numbers when inputing the licence plate from a photo into the database. Likely when they got the letter back they checked the image and the number, sure it wasn't the same and droped the matter, sending a new letter to the real culprit. Funny thing really, humans make this sort of error all the time.
This is similar to something that happened to me in California in the mid-70's. I was stationed in San Diego, and was driving on one of the local interstates at a good clip. Got pulled over by the CHP, and he wrote me a ticket.
Well, I still had my MO driver's license, and when he wrote down my number, he transposed the last two digits. The funniest part of this was that I'm a Jr. So, he wrote down my name, which is also my father's, home address, and when he transposed the digits, it was my father's license number! See, we had exactly the same driver's license number except mine ended 2211, his ended 2121. So, dear old dad got a speeding ticket from California. He sent them a rather heated letter explaining he hadn't been anywhere near California in 20-some years, and he wasn't paying!
Never heard any more about it...

Tippit
21st October 2008, 03:58 PM
The point he was making however was rather undone by the example he gave where one state's ANPR was able to issue automated an fine to someone from another state. Making the various databases is compatible is not only possible without renumbering ever car, but has already evidently been done. The gubberment already has access to these databases. However as it stands if I get a speeding ticket in France it won't find its way to me in the UK but I expect that to change real soon now.



Yes, it's been done, and it could be done globally. Your nation and state would merely form a compound key into the license plate database for each state.



So, the integration of these databases is underway, I can see plenty of valid reasons to support such integration but if there are nefarious secret motives in addition to these, surely the last thing a secretive shadow gubberment would want to do is to publicise the issue with wide scale renumbering of limited technological appeal.

I agree, I wasn't responding to this aspect of the post, but on the concentrated power of DMV with national/global jurisdiction.

gtc
21st October 2008, 04:36 PM
The most likely explaination is the one I gave earlier, a transpostion of two numbers when inputing the licence plate from a photo into the database.

That happened in Australia to someone I know. I also know of a few people who have been issued fines that should have gone to someone from interstate with the same combination of letters and numbers.

Off the top of my head, Australia has about a dozen different issuers of plates; there must be a lot more double-ups in North America when you consider cars from the US, Mexico and Canada all circulate.

JimBenArm
21st October 2008, 06:47 PM
That happened in Australia to someone I know. I also know of a few people who have been issued fines that should have gone to someone from interstate with the same combination of letters and numbers.

Off the top of my head, Australia has about a dozen different issuers of plates; there must be a lot more double-ups in North America when you consider cars from the US, Mexico and Canada all circulate.
In Kansas, it's possible for the same license number to be issued multiple times (at least it used to be a few years ago, I'm not current on their law). Each county had its own plates, and the same number could be used in each county. Also, to add to the confusion, the same number could be used in that county for a motorcycle plate. The KC Star did an article about this several years ago, as it was causing all kinds of problems. They may have changed this, I'm not certain.

Hokulele
21st October 2008, 07:50 PM
Just think of what it was like being this guy.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/noplate.asp

Klimax
22nd October 2008, 12:08 AM
Nope, as explained in the link you replied to, it was all about Napoleon. The Nazis changed a couple of countries when they invaded them, but most were already on the right, and the only reason the Germans drove on the right was because of Napoleon anyway.

Where is selffacepalm image,when you need it.OK,That thing I missed.
And BTW although Napoleon was here(Czech Republic in thos times part of Austrian Empire) only Germans changed it,so I assumed wrongly about others...


Well, if by "one" you mean "four" then yes.

Which are other three?I knew only about one.

maxfrost
22nd October 2008, 12:30 AM
In Kansas, it's possible for the same license number to be issued multiple times (at least it used to be a few years ago, I'm not current on their law). Each county had its own plates, and the same number could be used in each county. Also, to add to the confusion, the same number could be used in that county for a motorcycle plate. The KC Star did an article about this several years ago, as it was causing all kinds of problems. They may have changed this, I'm not certain.

This could explain why Creationism is so popular in Kansas.

But, seriously, why worry so much about identifying the car when the NWO can identify the driver by the chip that's been implanted in the back of our heads?

fromdownunder
22nd October 2008, 01:48 AM
And if you think DMV employees are surly now, wait until the guy behind the counter is a surly Frenchman



I have French ancestry, so I feel insulted by this. And don't call me Shirley.

Norm

Ocelot
22nd October 2008, 04:53 AM
Which are other three?I knew only about one.

Eire, Cyprus and Malta..

Either that or Cuddles was refering to the being four countries in itself. Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England.

Shrinker
22nd October 2008, 05:37 AM
Since he says his car was un a garage in San Deigo, I'm assuming he's a Californian, thus his car has Califorina licence plates. The most likely explaination is the one I gave earlier, a transpostion of two numbers when inputing the licence plate from a photo into the database. Likely when they got the letter back they checked the image and the number, sure it wasn't the same and droped the matter, sending a new letter to the real culprit. Funny thing really, humans make this sort of error all the time.

All true I'm sure, but lacks the amusing irony of my version. :o

Cuddles
22nd October 2008, 09:32 AM
Which are other three?I knew only about one.

What Ocelot said. UK, ROI, Cyprus and Malta all drive on the right.

Mashuna
22nd October 2008, 10:08 AM
What Ocelot said. UK, ROI, Cyprus and Malta all drive on the right.

Are you sure?

Klimax
22nd October 2008, 11:05 AM
Are you sure?

According to wikipedia it is so.

Oh dear,I originaly wrote about one tiny island as a sort of joke... next time use more smilies.

And then all four are islands and smaller ones...

;)

Hokulele
22nd October 2008, 12:57 PM
According to wikipedia it is so.

Oh dear,I originaly wrote about one tiny island as a sort of joke... next time use more smilies.

And then all four are islands and smaller ones...

;)


Are you really sure they all drive on the right?

Klimax
22nd October 2008, 01:27 PM
Are you really sure they all drive on the right?

Wait wait,you do not want to tell me we have more than three dimensions,do you?? :confused:

Or is there leftly wrong right side.... :cool:

Biscuit
22nd October 2008, 01:38 PM
I'm confused. Why would a one-world government have license plates identifying the driver/vehicle as being from the USA? Wouldn't it just be a section of this much hyped New World Order, and no longer identified as USA?

Because after phase 1 of creating a global DMV superpower they move to phase 2 - re-establish pangaea!

defaultdotxbe
22nd October 2008, 01:45 PM
i was always a fan of gondwanaland

TheDeeMan
22nd October 2008, 09:35 PM
I wouldn't worry about it until I started seeing actual "Orbis Unum" license plates with the snake constricting the globe symbol on them.

Dee

Travis
22nd October 2008, 10:32 PM
i was always a fan of gondwanaland

No, Rodinia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodinia) rules, bring on Snowball Earth!

Corsair 115
22nd October 2008, 11:24 PM
No, Rodinia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodinia) rules, bring on Snowball Earth!Well, as long as it's not Rodan. Flying monsters unnerve me.

KoihimeNakamura
23rd October 2008, 12:22 AM
Actually, Tippit, it's more likely that they're trying to standarize the fact, say, if you're on vacation in France, get in a crash, or get a ticket, they can still collect from you in the US.

Rasmus
23rd October 2008, 12:34 AM
Actually, Tippit, it's more likely that they're trying to standarize the fact, say, if you're on vacation in France, get in a crash, or get a ticket, they can still collect from you in the US.

Just how may people do you think would travel from the US to France in their own car?

PhantomWolf
23rd October 2008, 12:55 AM
No, considering that OCR software is cheap, easy to use, and everywhere.

You have obviously never used OCR Software. If they are using that to read plates, I'm surprised if less than 10-15% of the tickets ended up going to the wrong people. Humans are far better at reading than computers.

Tippit
23rd October 2008, 05:54 AM
You have obviously never used OCR Software. If they are using that to read plates, I'm surprised if less than 10-15% of the tickets ended up going to the wrong people. Humans are far better at reading than computers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_plate_recognition

If they're paying a human to match toll violations to drivers, then it's a waste of taxpayer money.

defaultdotxbe
23rd October 2008, 02:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_plate_recognition

If they're paying a human to match toll violations to drivers, then it's a waste of taxpayer money.
from the wiki article:

One of the biggest challenges with ALPR technology in the US is the accuracy of the Optical Character Recognition (OCR)—the actual identification of the characters on the license plate. Many variables affect OCR accuracy, starting with the fact that each state has at least twelve license plate designs that must be recognized by the ALPR system. Also, the shape of the characters, color of the plates and whether the characters are raised or flat can affect accuracy. Many times the letter D is mistaken for a Q or an O and some colors, especially reddish tones, are hard to read

Corsair 115
23rd October 2008, 10:31 PM
So, where does the North American Union fit into all this?

Hokulele
24th October 2008, 12:25 AM
Just above the Panama Canal.

Tippit
24th October 2008, 12:59 AM
from the wiki article:

Yes. I can quote the wiki too:



Concerns about these systems have centered on privacy fears of government tracking citizens' movements and media reports of misidentification and high error rates. However, as they have developed, the systems have become much more accurate and reliable.

...

Measuring ANPR system performance

It is not uncommon to read claims of Automatic Number Plate Recognition read rates in excess of 98%. The experience of system operators is that overall read rates for licence plates are 90% to 94% in ideal conditions with excellent modern systems. In some older systems overall performance rates are rumoured to be between 60% and 80%. ANPR is a developing technology which is coming of age and functional applications are expanding on a steady basis. Although there has been a significant improvement in recent years in the performance of ANPR systems, There has been little on how operators can assess and monitor ANPR/LPR systems. [42]



It seems the reliability of ANPR depends highly on which generation of the technology is in use. A 2% margin of error seems too costly to me, considering the time I had to spend dealing with the false accusation by the Bay Area Toll Authority. If 2% of the traffic that passes over the Golden Gate bridge is misidentified, perhaps they should rethink their policy of mailing out automated citations.

PhantomWolf
24th October 2008, 01:14 AM
Yes. I can quote the wiki too:



It seems the reliability of ANPR depends highly on which generation of the technology is in use. A 2% margin of error seems too costly to me, considering the time I had to spend dealing with the false accusation by the Bay Area Toll Authority. If 2% of the traffic that passes over the Golden Gate bridge is misidentified, perhaps they should rethink their policy of mailing out automated citations.

2%? That would appear to be the manufacturer's claim, the article says operator's are finding 90-94% (which I have to admit is a huge improvement since I last looked into it.) That means that the error rate could be as high as 10%. Hence a good idea to make sure a person is in the loop. I have no idea how much time you spent, but sending back a letter saying "Please recheck this as I wasn't in SF and can prove it is required" wouldn't have taken that long I would have thought. I do know of people who have faced much worse cause a comnputer decided they were the ones wanted, check out the link above about the guy with "NO PLATE"

TjW
26th October 2008, 11:29 AM
Is it true that starting a few years ago, there began appearing One World Government liscence plates:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/euusa0b.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/usaeunm.gif

Like these, they were and are optional of course. But the fact that there even ARE such liscence plates has me wondering, is there a plan actively in motion to produce a one world government?
INRM

Judging by the flag decal details, this is clearly a zianist (http://www.nmsu.edu/~bho/zia.html) plot.