Announced "plague" highlights GM stock plunge

[Raptor Witness]

If you were to pull my entire written record on the Internet, you will find that this is the one and only time that I have ever used a corporate icon as part of
[a prediction.] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=174197&postcount=83)

Let the U.S. government throw all the money into this rat hole they want. Their fate was sealed last year at an exact moment in time.

From above the hills and beyond the sky, to the state of confusion what it denies.


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[Link] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=174197&postcount=83)

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[Link] (http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GM#chart1:symbol=gm;range=5y;indicator=v olume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;log scale=on;source=undefined)

[Giggywig]

Hmmm, so Detroit is "the great city?"
Aaaanyways... where's the plague? You can't retrofit anything that happens in the city to your "prediction." You didn't even give a time for the plague, so anything that happens in Detroit can fit, ever.
And what's with the video?

[Jackalgirl]

Mmmm, more image salad being post-dicted -- always fun!

[Raptor Witness]

Hmmm, so Detroit is "the great city?"
Aaaanyways... where's the plague? You can't retrofit anything that happens in the city to your "prediction." You didn't even give a time for the plague, so anything that happens in Detroit can fit, ever.
And what's with the video?

I'm sorry that the current referencing link above isn't working. Here's a [cached copy] (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=nVc&q=great+city+great+plague+Raptor+Witness+site%3Aar mageddononline.org&btnG=Search) of the thread page. During the Fall 2006 Mid Term elections, that particular site went down, also, for reasons that were never adequately explained. In addition to this site, [another] (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/) I post to, and which is much larger, also coincidentally went down during the 2006 Fall Mid Term elections. Thankfully, this larger site did not go down during this election. When I say "down," I mean for days.

The date of the "plunge" speaks for itself. In my entire written record on the Internet, this is the first and only time that I have EVER used a corporation to make a prediction. The key phrase that makes the prediction stand, is the Latin term "Nunc," which means NOW in English. IN other words, this "plague," which is obviously financial, will begin immediately, which is exactly what occurred. I didn't just call a 52 week high, I nailed the 3 year high. GM now faces almost certain bankruptcy, unless they too are bailed out by the U.S. taxpayer by these frauds we've elected to run our country.

The embedded [video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECznJPcWiRI) is a clue to what will follow the "plague" or financial plunge, I believe. After all, look who has been elected President of the United States of America, just as GM sinks into the financial abyss.

[SimonD]

Hhhmm...whats that smell?

[Drudgewire]

Hmmm, so Detroit is "the great city?"
Aaaanyways... where's the plague?


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[Crundy]

Raptor: We only accept signed proof from a psychiatrist. Please go to one, tell them exactly what you told us, and they will then give you a piece of paper stating your claim and sign it off as genuine. We will then believe you.

[Gagglegnash]

Hi

Looks to me more like the middle of 2000....

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=gm&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&state=8&sid=2160&style=320&time=13&freq=2&nosettings=1&rand=7886&mocktick=1&rand=4202

[Starthinker]

Tablero de llaves - contiene 8 rotulos de llaves

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[Crundy]

http://www.cryptpad.com/sausageproof.jpg

:eek:

[Starthinker]

OMG!!!

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[Demigorgon]

IN other words, this "plague," which is obviously financial, will begin immediately, which is exactly what occurred.

Then why not just say "GM shares will drop starting in Oct. 2007 and continue until bankruptcy in ----"? Oh, because you're just making up crap as you go.

[monoman]

...

From above the hills and beyond the sky, to the state of confusion what it denies.

With crap like that, you should be writing lyrics for Faithless.

[Raptor Witness]

I can tell that none of my critics here, have ever [shorted a stock.] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance))

If you had simply borrowed someone else's shares for a period of time, and then bought back the same number a few weeks later to replace those you borrowed, at the MUCH lower price, and kept doing this over and over, you could of retired off of my prediction.

So while I invite the critical thinking, I also encourage you to make some money while you're at it. :D

[Ron_Tomkins]

Hhhmm...whats that smell?

Woo garbage.

[devnull]

Just out of interest, can anyone actually take a stab at the specific mental illness RW suffers from?

There seems to be a pattern of whacky postdiction, but there's also lots of date manipulation and pattern seeking....... is this a sign of any particular illness?

I only ask because I commonly see this pattern of behaviour.

[jmontecillo01]

Just out of interest, can anyone actually take a stab at the specific mental illness RW suffers from?

I suspect that RW is suffering from paranoid -schizoprenia. I myself, suffers from the illness and I see the same symptoms that what I went through and others like me. I actually pointed this out to RW in one of the thread that he started.

In one of the thread, he said that CIA, FBI is afer him. This is a sign of paranoia. He also made some cliams that points to delusion of grandeur.

We, as human beings, are pattern seeking animals. We look for patterns in things so that we can understand what the phenomena is.

People suffering from schiz tends to see pattern in everything, even unrelated things. (there is actullay a term for it, but I cannot remember it right now) In the movie, a beautiful mind, notice that John Nash thought that he see patterns in newspaper. magazine clippings, etc.

RW, I really would recommend that you see a p-doc just to make sure. I have seen people end up in the streets. Suicide is common. The good part is that we now have medications for it.

[Raptor Witness]

In one of the thread, he said that CIA, FBI is afer him. This is a sign of paranoia. He also made some cliams that points to delusion of grandeur.

If I had said that I was afraid of, and by whom, I might agree with you. However, I have done neither, so your hypothesis is [black and white,] (http://www.marsroverblog.com/dyn/reply/70739/43) and precisely where [the lights went out.] (http://www.marsroverblog.com/dyn/entry/70739/discussion_page/41)

I'm not here [to convince you.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcWJOx5vJp0) I'm here [to win.] (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=109502)

If you have any trouble with the links, the cached copies should still be available. [Nov 20th, 2007, 8:12 AM post at the bottom of the page] (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:b4874cV30jcJ:forums.armageddononlin e.org/atlantas_lake_lanier-t12383.html%3Fp%3D181419+eye+of+a+needle+raptor+wi tness+site:armageddononline.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a)


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[jmontecillo01]

If I had said that I was afraid of, and by whom, I might agree with you.

What you are about to see and read has made me, "the most dangerous man in America," and my life has been threatened several times since hurricane Katrina, by less than imaginary higher sources. I'm not grand standing. Real paranormal power is a threat to the status quo. The good news is that I have protection for awhile, and during this period I am committed to revealing the simple message of repentance. However, this is not my purpose here, but rather, debating the odds of what has occurred, and I respect the atheist's views as much as the self righteous. :wink:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=125110

Mate, my reason for what I said is because everything you said points to schiz. I am not a doctor but it seems to me that you are a fellow sufferer. There was another guy here before who posted his delusions. He listened to he advice he was given and it turned out that he really had schiz. It did not take long before the delusions that he had vanished with medications.

[devnull]

I suspect that RW is suffering from paranoid -schizoprenia.

Yeh, I suspected the same. I have a few friends who suffer from it.

thanks for the input. Here's hoping RW sees the light and seeks some treatment.

[Crundy]

I suspect that RW is suffering from paranoid -schizoprenia. I myself, suffers from the illness and I see the same symptoms that what I went through and others like me. I actually pointed this out to RW in one of the thread that he started.

In one of the thread, he said that CIA, FBI is afer him. This is a sign of paranoia. He also made some cliams that points to delusion of grandeur.

We, as human beings, are pattern seeking animals. We look for patterns in things so that we can understand what the phenomena is.

People suffering from schiz tends to see pattern in everything, even unrelated things. (there is actullay a term for it, but I cannot remember it right now) In the movie, a beautiful mind, notice that John Nash thought that he see patterns in newspaper. magazine clippings, etc.

RW, I really would recommend that you see a p-doc just to make sure. I have seen people end up in the streets. Suicide is common. The good part is that we now have medications for it.

Agreed. I noted your comments in the other thread and I would have quoted you had you not beaten me to it.

Raptor, please see a doctor, tell them everything you told us, and then report back. If we are wrong then a doctor's report will validate to us that you are not suffering from a mental illness and we will not dismiss your future arguments outright. If you are ill, you will be treated and become well again. Win win situation for everyone (esp. you).

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

In my entire written record on the Internet, this is the first and only time that I have EVER used a corporation to make a prediction.
You appear to believe that this is evidence for your predictive abilities. Why?

~~ Paul

[Ron_Tomkins]

I'm not here [to convince you.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcWJOx5vJp0) I'm here [to win.] (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=109502)

One thing is for sure: You will never achieve any of the two.

[SimonD]

Woo garbage.

I was thinking of something that sounds like bullpit, but that will do just as nicely

[calebprime]

I came for the naked treadmills, laughed at the sausage,

and now I think jmontecillo01 could be right.

But it's hard to tell, because Raptor Witness posts mostly awesome-looking pictures, instead of written text.

Raptor Witness, care to tell us--in a few paragraphs--what it is you can do and how you feel about it?

eta: He could simply be like Dutch, the Hyperdimensional Predictor of the Past.

[Raptor Witness]

[GM Cut to `Sell' at Deutsche, With Target of Zero ] (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a_O7AVz.ul_A&refer=us) - Nov. 10, 2008 Bloomberg

Again, I appreciate all the thoughtful criticisms, however, the proof is in the amount of money you would of made, had you believed in the "plague" as announced.
GM's stock hit a [60 year low today.] (http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GM#chart2:symbol=gm;range=2y;indicator=v olume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;log scale=on;source=undefined)

You can argue till the cows come home, but if you do the simple math, my one and only corporate prediction would of made you more money than the million dollar prize offered by Mr. Randi.

If you still don't believe in plagues, that's OK, because your denial of the power at hand will be [directly proportional to the peril to come.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II4k_dy4olE)


["Throw them my wallet, but pull out the ticket stub. Pray for rain with THE CARD in the silver sleeve. Pick apart the leather, and feed it to the people, for that is all they shall have to eat." - Jan 5th, 2008, 7:48 PM] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=185350&postcount=3)


["I believe that natural disasters will make it impossible for people to afford insurance, which will in turn lead to a collapse of the banking industry." - Mar 1st, 2008, 12:11 PM] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=197947&postcount=19)


Three days after [hurricane Ike] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ike) slammed into Houston's Mission Control, [AIG] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_International_Group) - the largest insurance company in the world ... failed. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2953256394_960fdc0b9d_o.png


["Actually, this stimulus plan is not a bad idea, but it won't work this time ... This band aid is the last gasp of a failed presidency, that shall end in utter despair." - Jan 18th, 2008, 10:56 PM ] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=187119&postcount=22)

[Crundy]

Get help!

[jmontecillo01]

Stock trading involves the judgement of the trader when he feels that is in tension state. That is, ready to move in price and has a potential for profit.

This involves "EDUCATED" decisions like watching the market performance and not based on any "paranormal" event.

RW. I am going to ask you a question. Please be honest in your reply, If you lie, then you are the one who will lose out in the end.

You said we could have made millions if we listened to your predictions. Did you make any money yourself? I'll be happy if you made just $10.00. I will not even ask you to repeat it 5 times in a row.

[Raptor Witness]

Stock trading involves the judgement of the trader when he feels that is in tension state. That is, ready to move in price and has a potential for profit.

This involves "EDUCATED" decisions like watching the market performance and not based on any "paranormal" event.

RW. I am going to ask you a question. Please be honest in your reply, If you lie, then you are the one who will lose out in the end.

You said we could have made millions if we listened to your predictions. Did you make any money yourself? I'll be happy if you made just $10.00. I will not even ask you to repeat it 5 times in a row.

The answer is no, I did not make any money on this prediction. At the time of the announcement, I didn't have enough money to invest, but even if I had, I doubt I would have, because my goal is not for profit. I might be curious to try the next time, but it will probably be illegal by then, because Congress is becoming paranoid. GM is just [the tip of the iceberg,] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=194929&postcount=244) and [the shipwreck] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=175137&postcount=231) has already occurred. The lifeboats are being dispatched, but there won't be enough for all the corporations needing assistance...

Besides, [the times of the Gentiles are over ... ] (http://www.marsroverblog.com/dyn/reply/70739/4)

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["Shred the sail of the closest ship to home, and bring down her mast. Her captain stands on the shore of the sea, weeping, because he would not listen to his ghost.
A company of crabs cannot console him. His stated affairs dashed to pieces on the sand. "No where to land," he repeats, "no one to save." The wreck a corpse, strewn with islands of pain. Diminished not by the tide or the terrier, who stops to smell the rotting wood."] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=175137&postcount=231) - October 8, 2007 ... the eleventh minute of the eleventh hour.

[Crundy]

I can't watch any more. Someone PM me when Raptor sees a doctor.

[Raptor Witness]

[Auto Bailout Fails, White House Weighs Options] (http://www.cnbc.com/id/28185890) - December 11, 2008

Everything they try to do will only make matters worse. A real plague cannot be stopped by human power. Not only will they fail, but anything or anyone who attempts to stop the process, will likewise fail, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets on the West.

[dudalb]

Raptor is either an incredibly persistent troll, one of the biggest loons who has ever posted here. I can't see any other possibilities.

[Clairvoyant_Kyle]

So you put some pictures together, wait for something to happen, and then say that is what I mean by those pictures. That’s cool, you do any other party tricks? …No but seriously that is very meaning of POST-diction…not PRE-diction.

Now I live in Michigan, as a mater of fact I live in the city that just scored the highest unemployment rate in the whole US. Just so you know the horrible auto market did not start on October 2nd 2007. The city I am from, and surrounding area, is economically based on the auto industry. We didn’t start loosing jobs last October. We started loosing jobs a LOOOONG time ago. Where were your pictures when NAFTA became law? Where were your pictures when foreign cars hit our markets at way less of a cost back in the 1980’s? Please don’t act as if this is something new. Anyone from an industrial area in Michigan can tell you this is a long time coming.

And further more, when the hell does a plague, which always referred to in history as disease run rampant, have anything to do with a companies economic stability? Remember when the “Enron Plague” hit, or the disaster left behind from the “Pan Am Plague?” Of course not! These things happen, and one might say it is just the nature of the beast.

Can you tell me my mother maiden name? What age my grandfather died? What the name of my elementary school was? You can even answer with pictures if you like.

Does everyone else out there think this is the same obscure “Connect The Dots” method that Nostradamus used to make him self a legion? Can anyone say, “Delusional Disorder?”

http://www.psychcentral.com/disorders/sx11.htm

-Kyle

[Raptor Witness]

[Auto Financer GMAC Scrambles to Avoid Bankruptcy] (http://www.cnbc.com/id/28195983) - December 12, 2008 CNBC

The automobile industry has had it's ups and downs for decades, but this is something more dire. They are not just on the ropes, they are down for the count. Their credit arm broken, they have little chance of revival.

A rescue may be attempted. However, "Eternal desolation" and "Apocalypse Now" mean, the end ... FOREVER. They will no longer exist in their present form.

Count [the number of pairs] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=174197&postcount=83) departing the big red wheel, underlying the red ink they are mired in. At what time of the year does the cryptic video end, and of what ethnic background is the spokesman to come?

Predictions are easy to make. What I bring to the table is new authority.

[Smackety]

[Auto Financer GMAC Scrambles to Avoid Bankruptcy] (http://www.cnbc.com/id/28195983) - December 12, 2008 CNBC

The automobile industry has had it's ups and downs for decades, but this is something more dire. They are not just on the ropes, they are down for the count. Their credit arm broken, they have little chance of revival.

A rescue may be attempted. However, "Eternal desolation" and "Apocalypse Now" mean, the end ... FOREVER. They will no longer exist in their present form.

Count [the number of pairs] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=174197&postcount=83) departing the big red wheel, underlying the red ink they are mired in. At what time of the year does the cryptic video end, and of what ethnic background is the spokesman to come?

Predictions are easy to make. What I bring to the table is new authority.

And what significance does the end of the auto industry have? We have seen the end of many labor-intensive industries in the US...
I am not sure the world will mourn the end of Detroit anyhow, it has been spiraling down since I can remember.
Try to predict something BIG. Don't look for correlations, they will just make you look crazy.
Why the Seal video?

ETA: The Seal video is a bit ironic actually, as he is warning us "But we're never gonna survive unless, we get a little crazy"

[Clairvoyant_Kyle]

[Auto Financer GMAC Scrambles to Avoid Bankruptcy] (http://www.cnbc.com/id/28195983) - December 12, 2008 CNBC

The automobile industry has had it's ups and downs for decades, but this is something more dire. They are not just on the ropes, they are down for the count. Their credit arm broken, they have little chance of revival.

A rescue may be attempted. However, "Eternal desolation" and "Apocalypse Now" mean, the end ... FOREVER. They will no longer exist in their present form.

Count [the number of pairs] (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showpost.php?p=174197&postcount=83) departing the big red wheel, underlying the red ink they are mired in. At what time of the year does the cryptic video end, and of what ethnic background is the spokesman to come?

Predictions are easy to make. What I bring to the table is new authority.

Ok, and what did you do? You showed some pictures that said nothing about this happening, then a year latter you seen a subject that related to one of your pictures, and then claimed that is what those pictures meant all along. Once again, that is called POST-diction, not PRE-diction. Why don’t you post some PRE-dictions and if you want include some pictures that be cool. So take a shot at saying an event, a place and a time. Because until then no one with any common cents is going to believe you have any kind of ability to see the future.

-Kyle

[Crundy]

RW: No-one here (or anywhere in fact) is going to listen to you until you at least answer some of the questions posed to you. Posting random images and talking bollocks each time someone asks you a question about your previous post will not get you attention.

[Drewbot]

I predicted the plague in Detroit months ago as well.

See, I designed this '313' area code t-shirt about the same time that the mayor of DETROIT was convicted of lying under oath.


Now, many might say that doesn't mean anything, but if you went to this website: http://www.cafepress.com/313Productions and ordered the '313' shirt, you would see that, the shirt when placed in front of a mirror, says 'EIE' which is short for 'E-I-E' and therefore, my prediction is fulfilled.http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_197054946985c081a3.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14595)

[Clairvoyant_Kyle]

See RW, Drewbot can pull out random “connect the dots” BS out his back side and call it a vision of the future too. It is a pretty easy trick to do. IT'S NOTHING SPECIAL! It is simply POST-diction, and I have no clue why you are so reluctant to make some real PRE-dictions instead of random picture posting like you do.

Also, I would take Crundy advice and start answering questions people ask you. Otherwise you come off extra loony instead of just plain old loony.

-Kyle