Texas Board of Education member: Obama planning FALSE FLAG attack

[negativ]

Education official refuses to retract Obama terror claim (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6092712.html)

"I don't have anything in there that would be retractable," said Dunbar, R-Richmond. "Those are my personal opinions and I don't think the language is questionable."

In a column posted on the Christian Worldview Network Web site, Dunbar wrote that a terrorist attack on America during the first six months of an Obama administration "will be a planned effort by those with whom Obama truly sympathizes to take down the America that is threat to tyranny."

She also suggests Obama would seek to expand his power by declaring martial law throughout the country.



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PLEASE Alex Jones, accept this woman into your camp with open arms. Get her commentary in your next documentary. Pretty please?


ETA: The full article she wrote is here. (http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php?ArticleID=4140)

[PhantomWolf]

Same old BS, just changed the names.

[sleeplessdwarf]

A lot of it is the same BS, but with this new president comes new ways to attack. People are terrified more now than usual and it is really sad. I have family members who have never even been into politics who are scared to death. It seems that suddenly for many it is ok to question a persons faith. No matter how many times Obama has claimed to be a christian, other christians feel completely justified in saying he is a liar and a muslim. I had people calling me telling me to hurry and vote McCain, cause Obama is going to take all tv preachers off the air, and that he had to be a muslim cause he took his oath on the koran. Doesn't matter if you use the same internet they got that info from to prove them wrong, they say they still just have that feeling that he is lying.

I am proud that my country as a majority was able to come together and look beyond color, but for many, his color allows them to spout any type of lie they want to, and they feel justified. The really entertaining part is when they follow up the lies with, "and you know I am not racist!"

:confused:

[1337m4n]

In six months I plan to have another tally mark to add to my glorious thread. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=125676)

[moon1969]

Well Putin probaly did it in Russia. Putin blamed the Russian apartment bombings on the chechens when there is no real proof that the chechens did it. Obama is not Vladimir Putin.

[sleeplessdwarf]

moon, after posting a comment to your other replies, I have changed my mind. It seems that often, you post your disbelief in CTs in a way that makes me think you actually believe them.

[CurtC]

In case anyone hasn't been following the Texas State Board of Education recently, here's the basics off the top of my head:

* There are 13 (?) members, pretty evenly split between rational people and religious nuts. Ms Dunbar is in the latter group of course.
* Our illustrious governor Perry (a man who makes me wish we had W back) appointed Don McLeroy, a young-earth creationist, to be head of the SBOE a couple of years ago.
* We already have language in the science standards that "strengths and weaknesses" of scientific theories should be taught.
* Christine Comer, the director of the state science curriculum, was fired a few months ago for simply forwarding (with an "FYI" introduction) an email notice about an upcoming talk by Barbara Forrest, noted creationism watcher and expert.
* Several months ago, the SBOE commissioned a group of English course experts to make recommendations. The SBOE ignored the recommendations and quickly passed a new stealth set of standards that McLeroy gave out to the board only hours before their meeting.
* The SBOE commissioned a group of education experts to make recommendations about the science standards. This group recommended removing the language about "weaknesses" from the standards.
* The SBOE is having hearings in the very new future about the state science standards.
* The SBOE appointed a panel of six "experts" to review textbook selection. Three are legitimate experts, three are creationists - two directly associated with the Discovery Institute, one local Texas creationist.

Texas, being such a large textbook market, and being fairly demanding, gets textbook publishers to make changes that often then get sold to the rest of the country.

I apologize to the rest of the country. We're trying to fix it!

[dudalb]

Same old BS, just changed the names.


No Crap. Just change "Obama" to "Bush" and it sounds like the twoofer crap we have been hearing since 9/11.

[Drudgewire]

She also suggests Obama would seek to expand his power by declaring martial law throughout the country.

Obama better wait in line. Last I heard from CT-land, W still has two months to declare it himself. :D

[dudalb]

In case anyone hasn't been following the Texas State Board of Education recently, here's the basics off the top of my head:

* There are 13 (?) members, pretty evenly split between rational people and religious nuts. Ms Dunbar is in the latter group of course.
* Our illustrious governor Perry (a man who makes me wish we had W back) appointed Don McLeroy, a young-earth creationist, to be head of the SBOE a couple of years ago.
* We already have language in the science standards that "strengths and weaknesses" of scientific theories should be taught.
* Christine Comer, the director of the state science curriculum, was fired a few months ago for simply forwarding (with an "FYI" introduction) an email notice about an upcoming talk by Barbara Forrest, noted creationism watcher and expert.
* Several months ago, the SBOE commissioned a group of English course experts to make recommendations. The SBOE ignored the recommendations and quickly passed a new stealth set of standards that McLeroy gave out to the board only hours before their meeting.
* The SBOE commissioned a group of education experts to make recommendations about the science standards. This group recommended removing the language about "weaknesses" from the standards.
* The SBOE is having hearings in the very new future about the state science standards.
* The SBOE appointed a panel of six "experts" to review textbook selection. Three are legitimate experts, three are creationists - two directly associated with the Discovery Institute, one local Texas creationist.

Texas, being such a large textbook market, and being fairly demanding, gets textbook publishers to make changes that often then get sold to the rest of the country.

I apologize to the rest of the country. We're trying to fix it!


What next? Equal time for the Flat Earthers.
I will give credit to Bob Dole; When this crap happned in Kansas, Dole spoke out against it.

[LightinDarkness]

Are these not the VERY SAME WOO-WOOS who predicted that George Bush would declare martial law and stop the elections from being held?

I love how they just ignore all their previous 100% wrong predictions, and then start making other completely ridiculous predictions.

[TexasJack]

I don't know what everyone is so surprised about, it's all in the ONAC report (Obama for the New American Century)

[Horatius]

Obama better wait in line. Last I heard from CT-land, W still has two months to declare it himself. :D




Oh! Maybe we'll get dueling Martial Laws! Obama and the Army in the eastern and northern states, Bush and the Marines in the south and west, with the Navy taking Hawaii and Alaska for their own, and telling both of them to go to hell. The Air Force will just bomb the **** out of everybody, since that's what they really like doing, and now no one will tell them to stop!

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Education official refuses to retract Obama terror claim (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6092712.html)





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PLEASE Alex Jones, accept this woman into your camp with open arms. Get her commentary in your next documentary. Pretty please?


ETA: The full article she wrote is here. (http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php?ArticleID=4140)

It is well known that Obama wants to turn America into a Muslim state. What I don't understand is why people think that is a bad thing.

[gtc]

Obama started the rumour that he is Muslim to cover up his real identity as a Rothschild.

[Travis]

So, because of Texas we're soon going to have biology books that show dinosaurs and humans side by side, civic books with chapters on the "black Muslim menace" and economic books that urge everyone to invest in gold and burn their "evil" fiat Jew money.

Thank you Texas.

[timhau]

Hey, the white guy executed a massive false flag op. It's only fair that the black muslim gets to do his.

[JoeyDonuts]

Hey, a totalitarian Obama state could be a good thing!

1. All school lunch menus will be replaced with fried chicken and grape soda.
2. The 24-hour Sanford and Son network.
3. This is almost as ridiculous as the thread in the OP. I now stop.

[Alareth]

*snip* Obama is going to take all tv preachers off the air *snip*


Anyone have a time machine so i can go back and vote for Obama?

[Zep]

Schools should get their books printed in China instead, and no longer from Texas. Cheaper, I'll bet, and you can get anything you like printed in them without "censorship". Then the Texas schoolbook industry will wither and wilt, until Big Biz InvestorsTM tell the board to pull their collective fingers and dump the stupid morons ruining the party. Summary: Money rules - so use it.

[CurtC]

Schools should get their books printed in China instead, and no longer from Texas.

You misunderstand - books are not printed in Texas (at least not that I'm aware of). Texas' school system is just a huge market for the books, and a demanding one. The publishers tend to make Texas happy and sell that to the rest of the country.

We don't give a damn whether they're printed here, China, or B.F.E.

[Zep]

Then if the books are printed on demand, why don't the other states get theirs direct from the printer instead? Cut out the middleman...

[WildCat]

Then if the books are printed on demand, why don't the other states get theirs direct from the printer instead? Cut out the middleman...
They don't buy them from Texas, if that's what you're thinking.

[gtc]

It doesn't make commercial sense to have two versions of the text book - one for Texas and one for everywhere else. Therefore, they just put out the one Texas-friendly version.

This happens with videogames in Australia, where a game that is unsuitable for a 15 year old is denied a rating and effectively banned. Commerical reasons mean that the tamer Australian version is often the only version sold in NZ and occasionally this extends to the whole PAL region or even globally. I belive NZ has missed on some games that couldn't be edited to satisfy the Australian censors. The South Australian A/G seems to be holding back the introduction of a R18+ rating.

I believe similar things have occurred in Europe due to Germany's more strict controls.

Fallout 3 is, I believe, a game where the global version was changed as a result of Australia censorship laws.

[Travis]

It doesn't make commercial sense to have two versions of the text book - one for Texas and one for everywhere else. Therefore, they just put out the one Texas-friendly version.

I believe Zep's point was that if everyone else refused to buy the "Texas friendly" book the publisher would have to relinquish to market demand. The rest of the US has a lot more schools than Texas. At that point the publisher is either going to make two versions or just the one the rest of the country wants and Texas can take it or leave it.

How sad might it be with Texas school boards going through the new "non-Texas friendly" books they have to buy blacking out with markers all references to evil Natural Selection and Evolution. Imagine the students trying to learn out of books that look like they have been marked up by a Communist Censor.

[Zep]

I believe Zep's point was that if everyone else refused to buy the "Texas friendly" book the publisher would have to relinquish to market demand. The rest of the US has a lot more schools than Texas. At that point the publisher is either going to make two versions or just the one the rest of the country wants and Texas can take it or leave it.Bingo. Travis got it. Because it costs the same (or possibly even cheaper) to print and ship from China (or wherever the heck they are printed - Malaysia for most Australian books) direct to anywhere in the USA as it does to ship to a Texas warehouse then on-ship from there.

How sad might it be with Texas school boards going through the new "non-Texas friendly" books they have to buy blacking out with markers all references to evil Natural Selection and Evolution. Imagine the students trying to learn out of books that look like they have been marked up by a Communist Censor.An added bonus. I suspect that this version will not last very long - think of the money required to do that. Subsequently, the school board members who instituted the shennanigans would not be far behind being turfed.

[fuelair]

I believe Zep's point was that if everyone else refused to buy the "Texas friendly" book the publisher would have to relinquish to market demand. The rest of the US has a lot more schools than Texas. At that point the publisher is either going to make two versions or just the one the rest of the country wants and Texas can take it or leave it.

How sad might it be with Texas school boards going through the new "non-Texas friendly" books they have to buy blacking out with markers all references to evil Natural Selection and Evolution. Imagine the students trying to learn out of books that look like they have been marked up by a Communist Censor.

Actually, that would be great - the kids would actually be interested in finding out what was being hidden from them!!:)

[PhantomWolf]

It doesn't make commercial sense to have two versions of the text book - one for Texas and one for everywhere else. Therefore, they just put out the one Texas-friendly version.

This happens with videogames in Australia, where a game that is unsuitable for a 15 year old is denied a rating and effectively banned. Commerical reasons mean that the tamer Australian version is often the only version sold in NZ and occasionally this extends to the whole PAL region or even globally. I belive NZ has missed on some games that couldn't be edited to satisfy the Australian censors. The South Australian A/G seems to be holding back the introduction of a R18+ rating.

I believe similar things have occurred in Europe due to Germany's more strict controls.

Fallout 3 is, I believe, a game where the global version was changed as a result of Australia censorship laws.

Actually NZ has ways of getting around Australian Censorship in that we can import games direct from the US. Still it really irks me seeing movie trailers that are rated by the Australian Censor!

[gtc]

I wonder why Australia and NZ can't come up with a common rating scheme? I would think it would save everybody time and money. It wouldn't necessarily involve Australia agreeing to sell 18+ videogames or NZ banning them.

Actually NZ has ways of getting around Australian Censorship in that we can import games direct from the US.

I think Australians try to get to around it using mailorder or illegal downloads too. My tastes in videogames are rather tame so I have never felt the need to go down that route.

Still it really irks me seeing movie trailers that are rated by the Australian Censor!
We get a lot of American trailers complete with the line 'Coming this Fall' when its actually coming in Spring.

[WildCat]

Bingo. Travis got it. Because it costs the same (or possibly even cheaper) to print and ship from China (or wherever the heck they are printed - Malaysia for most Australian books) direct to anywhere in the USA as it does to ship to a Texas warehouse then on-ship from there.
That's not what happens

[PhantomWolf]

We get a lot of American trailers complete with the line 'Coming this Fall' when its actually coming in Spring.

That I can forgive, after all the company has make one trailer and sent it out, but why should we have "This film is not yet clasified by the Australian Office of Film and Literature" attatched to them. I don't give a hoot what the Aussie OFL thinks about it, I want to know what the NZOFL rates it at.

[boloboffin]

One thing that CurtC missed in his excellent summary of the Texan State of Affairs: two of the creationist experts on the textbook review panel are co-authors (with others) of their own textbook about creationism. Jeez, this stinks.

http://www.exploreevolution.com/

[CptColumbo]

Schools should get their books printed in China instead, and no longer from Texas. Cheaper, I'll bet, and you can get anything you like printed in them without "censorship". Then the Texas schoolbook industry will wither and wilt, until Big Biz InvestorsTM tell the board to pull their collective fingers and dump the stupid morons ruining the party. Summary: Money rules - so use it.Then they will need a place to deposit all those Texas schoolbooks... They might find a place in Dallas.

[dudalb]

One thing that CurtC missed in his excellent summary of the Texan State of Affairs: two of the creationist experts on the textbook review panel are co-authors (with others) of their own textbook about creationism. Jeez, this stinks.

http://www.exploreevolution.com/

Regardless of what your opinion is of Creationism, (and mine is very,very,low) isn't that a pretty clear Conflict of Interest?

[Darth Rotor]

Education official refuses to retract Obama terror claim (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6092712.html)

PLEASE Alex Jones, accept this woman into your camp with open arms. Get her commentary in your next documentary. Pretty please?


ETA: The full article she wrote is here. (http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php?ArticleID=4140)
No, it isn't, at least not anymore. Link didn't have it. I did a search on artcles by Cynthia Dunbar, and got a blank page below a pictue of her that wasn't too complementary. It is not posted on her home page.

What gives, here? Anyone find the text of what she wrote?

DR

[dudalb]

Then they will need a place to deposit all those Texas schoolbooks... They might find a place in Dallas.


With improved security.

[CptColumbo]

With improved security.

Or at least a better screening process for new employees.

[boloboffin]

Regardless of what your opinion is of Creationism, (and mine is very,very,low) isn't that a pretty clear Conflict of Interest?

Yeah, you would think. We're going to see if they try to railroad their book through the review process. :nope:

[yodaluver28]

Why can't we just take all of these paranoid lunatics and put them in one big state, maybe Texas since so many of them seem to already be there, and close the borders so they can no longer foment hate and inflict violence on anyone but themselves?

All of them. The Dominionists. The White Supremacists. The Anti-Semites. The paranoid idiots who think that the same people who can't even get their act together long enough to figure out what their own bailout package is supposed to do, are in fact plotting to take over and destroy the world through a series of vast, impossible racial and religious conspiracies.

And people who use leaf blowers at 7 in the morning. They must be stopped.

[Thunder]

We all believe in freedom of speech, but when you represent an official post and semi-official views, it should be illegal for you to spread lies and fear. This guy should totally be suspended or removed.

and the sad thing is, if an attack doesnt happen, they tell themselves "ah..they heard our words and decided to back off..we saved the day!!"

if an attack does happen "we were right!!!"

there is no winning with these folks.

[CptColumbo]

We all believe in freedom of speech, but when you represent an official post and semi-official views, it should be illegal for you to spread lies and fear. This guy should totally be suspended or removed.

and the sad thing is, if an attack doesnt happen, they tell themselves "ah..they heard our words and decided to back off..we saved the day!!"

if an attack does happen "we were right!!!"

there is no winning with these folks.
IIRC there are some states and cities that have laws against endorsing a candidate while representing your office (for example: a police officer in uniform) and using your official resources to campaign (phone, stamp machine, office personel).

[CORed]

Then they will need a place to deposit all those Texas schoolbooks... They might find a place in Dallas.

The grassy knoll?

[Skeptic]

Same old BS, just changed the names.

Yup.

[Drudgewire]

No matter how many times Obama has claimed to be a christian, other christians feel completely justified in saying he is a liar and a muslim. I had people calling me telling me to hurry and vote McCain, cause Obama is going to take all tv preachers off the air, and that he had to be a muslim cause he took his oath on the koran.


Guess they feel pretty stupid now with the whole "Rick Warren invocation" thing, huh? :D