Condoms at Wal-mart

[King of the Americas]

Only if you can prove you are 18...

I was SHOCKED, to overhear this while I was waiting to check out.

I noticed a 'teen' clearly under 18 standing in line with only a box of condoms in-hand, which made me smile. I didn't make eye contact, or ask any questions, as I didn't want to make him nervous.

When his turn came, the cashier looked at his item and asked him for I.D. "What?", he quaried. "You have to be 18, to buy these.", she responded.

I don't know who was more shocked me, me or the young buyer, who was forced to leave empty-handed.

I haven't sent an e-mail to Wal-mart headquarters yet, but only because I was looking for somemore insight. It is illegal to sell "sex paraphenalia" to minors?

I live in Texas, and this is store #185 in Gainesville.

*Is there ANYONE who 'needs' condoms more than unwed teens???

[tyr_13]

I work at a Sam's Club, and we sell condoms in 100 pack boxes. I've never seen an age prompt come up when selling them (of course I'm the Electronics Associate, so I've only seen them sold twice).

Of course I'm in New York. If anything, you'd think there were be a law against have an age restriction.

I don't think I need to tell anyone how epically stupid this problem is. Tell your local 'moralist' or 'family focused' idiot who things this is a good thing to shove it up their ass, without a condom of course.

[Toke]

I am sure the fundies have an esplanation for why prevention teenagers from getting contraception is the best way to cut down on teen pregnancies.:rolleyes:

[Lanzy]

Could be more of an idiot cashier than an idiot policy. Maybe?

[Nogbad]

Totally insane - it is a rubber balloon for fecks sake! Not a ammo for a gun.

[Madalch]

I can see some cashiers simply assuming they can't sell them without ID, just like cigarettes or dirty mags.

[WildCat]

Sounds like a stupid cashier to me. If it was store policy there'd be a sign by the display, no?

[Ivor the Engineer]

I think I'd have been inclined to buy them for the kid.

[Skeptic Guy]

Sounds like the personal beliefs of the cashier intruding on the transaction.

[GeeMack]

At least some Wal-Mart stores are set up so the cash register beeps a message to the cashier when a certain item requires age verification. I've purchased a small utility tool which included a blade, much like a small pocket knife but no more dangerous than a nail file, and the machine beeped and prompted the cashier to check my age. I'm way enough over 18 that I didn't need to show an ID. Point is, it very well might be the store itself, and not the individual cashier who is responsible for this.

[skeptical]

I agree with Wildcat: Idiot cashier.

Not only would I have stepped in and bought them for the kid, I would have handed them to him in front of the cashier immediately after the purchase and dared her to make a scene.

[Tbone]

All I know is that there is no age requirement to buy condoms in Canada, from anybody. But I wonder if stores can set their own policies beyond those set by law.

[Magyar]

my question is WHY didn't you step up and support the cause?! :)

[my_wan]

Could be more of an idiot cashier than an idiot policy. Maybe?
Sounds like a stupid cashier to me. If it was store policy there'd be a sign by the display, no?
Yes. I've been a cashier quiet a bit. It was a stupid assumption of the cashier. Think about it. He's turned down at the counter so he just goes to the restroom and buys inferior condoms out of the vending machine. Real bright.

Cashiers often lack in sense and the managers are often as dense. I once went to another c-store in the district to help out and be the third shift cashier. A few nights later the manager wanted me to sign a write-up for a 22% down shift in sales. Normally that would have been a very very bad thing but I had my own copy of the managers shift analysis and knew how to read it. I told her to put it on the desk and I would take care of it. Instead I took it and my copy of the shift analysis with me and showed my manager. It may have been a 22% drop in sales that night but being third shift it represented a grand total of $33 and some change. Sales on my shift were actually up nearly 5% on average. Every employee of that store had at least one down shift write-up that week alone for far more marginal single shift deviations. That manager didn't last long after that and some new employees started lasting longer than a week. No matter how many meetings you have to explain to managers how to use the shift analysis many just never get it. Some don't even pay the attention they should to it because they don't understand it. Even mention statistics, much less standard deviations, etc., and they will look at the ceiling like someone needs to clean it.

[Ixion]

I grew up in small-town Texas, and I remember that the condoms were locked behind a glass case in some stores and you had to ask for them. Similarly, I think you had to ask for pregnancy tests.

[geni]

I am sure the fundies have an esplanation for why prevention teenagers from getting contraception is the best way to cut down on teen pregnancies.:rolleyes:

If the only tool you have is birth control, every problem looks like something you can safely have sex with.

Okey i doubt they would try that one.

[Ladewig]

I grew up in small-town Texas, and I remember that the condoms were locked behind a glass case in some stores and you had to ask for them. Similarly, I think you had to ask for pregnancy tests.

That's primarily because they are high-shoplift items. Around here, razor blades are kept in a locked cabinet at drugstores.

[luchog]

I wasn't able to find any info on Texas laws regarding condom sales, but apparently, it's not just WalMart that limits sales to over-18 (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080804165040AASr4k1).

Considering that Texas laws prohibiting the importation and sale of sexual aids and other "adult" toys weren't overturned until earlier this year, I'm leaning more toward "stupid store policy" than "stupid cashier".

[joobie]

i work in a supermarket and the condoms are locked up but it doesn't have anything to do with age, it's because they get stolen. same with pregnancy tests.

[Travis]

I see we're back to thinking that without condoms teens won't have sex. How progressive. Are back alley abortions next? Maybe we should bring back the scarlet "A" as well. Heck let's stop pussyfooting around and go all out and start burning witches again.

[Edges]

This is really sad. Because you know that now that he has been denied a mostly effective form of birth control, he and whoever he has sex with will be turning to ineffective ones like withdrawel. It's a fairy tale to think this kid won't have sex because he couldn't get condoms.

Hopefully he will be able to get ahold of condoms elsewhere.

[UnrepentantSinner]

I live in Texas, and this is store #185 in Gainesville.

I'll try and remember to ask someone at the Plano store I get groceries at. Did you tell the guy to try the CVS?

Considering that Texas laws prohibiting the importation and sale of sexual aids and other "adult" toys weren't overturned until earlier this year, I'm leaning more toward "stupid store policy" than "stupid cashier".

I can ensure you that law has been unapplied except in vice cases for decades in Texas. I've seen condoms in convenience stores since I moved here in '86. Materials and sexual aids have been availible by mail order or from "novelty" stores like Spencers Gifts, adult bookstores and specialty shops. Before I moved to Dallas "Christies Toy Box" created quite a buzz in Wichita Falls. That was in 1992.

[King of the Americas]

my question is WHY didn't you step up and support the cause?! :)

I just didn't think of it...

I wish I WOULD have.

I guess I was shocked into silence, which is really against my character.

[King of the Americas]

I'll try and remember to ask someone at the Plano store I get groceries at. Did you tell the guy to try the CVS?



I can ensure you that law has been unapplied except in vice cases for decades in Texas. I've seen condoms in convenience stores since I moved here in '86. Materials and sexual aids have been availible by mail order or from "novelty" stores like Spencers Gifts, adult bookstores and specialty shops. Before I moved to Dallas "Christies Toy Box" created quite a buzz in Wichita Falls. That was in 1992.

Sadly, I could say nothing. I was just struck silent, by the happening.

I'll be sending an e-mail to the Wal-mart headquarter today.

Thank you all for your input.

[WildCat]

Sadly, I could say nothing. I was just struck silent, by the happening.

I'll be sending an e-mail to the Wal-mart headquarter today.

Thank you all for your input.
Why don't you just go back to the Walmart in question and ask?

[webfusion]

There is a new invention you may wish to avail yourself of, called the "Telephone"


In all WalMart stores, the cash register itself will prompt for ID on condom sales. It's part of their POS computer system. (POS =Point-of-Sale)

[WildCat]

Kids way under 18 perusing the condom selection at Wal-Mart:
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And successfully making the purchase, no ID required or asked for:
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[Dancing David]

Using Google, I do not find an age to purchase condoms.

[JoeTheJuggler]

When his turn came, the cashier looked at his item and asked him for I.D. "What?", he quaried. "You have to be 18, to buy these.", she responded.


Oh sure--because you can't pregnant or catch STDs when you're under 18!
:jaw-dropp

[WildCat]

Oh sure--because you can't pregnant or catch STDs when you're under 18!
:jaw-dropp
You can make more money selling diapers. :D

[Checkmite]

Cashiers often lack in sense and the managers are often as dense. I once went to another c-store in the district to help out and be the third shift cashier. A few nights later the manager wanted me to sign a write-up for a 22% down shift in sales. Normally that would have been a very very bad thing but I had my own copy of the managers shift analysis and knew how to read it. I told her to put it on the desk and I would take care of it. Instead I took it and my copy of the shift analysis with me and showed my manager. It may have been a 22% drop in sales that night but being third shift it represented a grand total of $33 and some change. Sales on my shift were actually up nearly 5% on average. Every employee of that store had at least one down shift write-up that week alone for far more marginal single shift deviations.

See, I don't get this way of thinking. A cashier's job is to stand at a till and ring up purchases that customers bring to them. If three fewer people come to buy things today than did yesterday, or if the shoppers who come in tonight buy less expensive things on average, how on earth can that possibly be attributed to a problem with the cashier? The cashier deals with people who have already decided to buy something; he is not a salesman.

[Alareth]

I was once in a Walmart and there was a large group of employees at one of the cashlanes. The impromptu debate panel was prompted by an 8-10 year old girl trying to buy a 20" Stanley hand saw.

There was no popup, but they were unsure if it was allowed.

They eventually let her buy it, but someone was going to query corporate for future guidance.

[Uncayimmy]

See, I don't get this way of thinking. A cashier's job is to stand at a till and ring up purchases that customers bring to them. If three fewer people come to buy things today than did yesterday, or if the shoppers who come in tonight buy less expensive things on average, how on earth can that possibly be attributed to a problem with the cashier? The cashier deals with people who have already decided to buy something; he is not a salesman.

I'm not in the business, so these are just guesses:

Some cashiers are encouraged to up-sell. The most basic form is, "Do you need anything else?" If somebody is buying smokes, ask them if they need a lighter. Tell them about the 3 for 2 promotion. Tell them cartons are on sale. If they buy a Big Gulp, mention that they can get a hot dog for another 50 cents.

Maybe another possibility is theft (not ringing up items and pocketing the cash). If you have a enough data you can get a pretty good idea of how much to expect on any given night. Obviously, one bad night doesn't mean somebody is stealing, but if a particular cashier consistently under performs I'd be a little suspicious.

Of course, it all depends on understanding the data, which is probably a big problem in itself.

[tyr_13]

Alright, I talked about this with my coaches (what we call our managers) and other associates today at Sam's (for those of you that don't know, Sam's Club and Wal-Mart are both under Wal-Mart Stores Inc.). As it turns out, it is actually against policy to refuse sales of condoms for any reason other than the reasons that any sale may be refused (the person is drunk, they aren't a member, they are paying with a check with the wrong name, they don't have the money, they try to pay with American Express, etc, etc.).

On the Wire (Wal-Mart's own personal internet), it says that it is wrong and against policy to make any feel bad about any purchase, and sites condoms, tampons, hair treatment, and adult diapers as specific examples.

This is what it say about New York stores, and I didn't look up any store numbers from Texas. I might have to do that and see what it says about down there.

[Toke]

That sounds more sensible.
I belive the US have a legel age (for sex) of 18, that is not a reason for banning anyone under from getting contraception.

[Jeff Corey]

That sounds more sensible.
I belive the US have a legel age (for sex) of 18, that is not a reason for banning anyone under from getting contraception.

No. States differ. In West Virginia, for example, it is 8 years old.

ETA,I was wrong again. Here you go : http://www.ageofconsent.us/

[Nogbad]

That sounds more sensible.
I belive the US have a legel age (for sex) of 18, that is not a reason for banning anyone under from getting contraception.

I think the age varies widely according to State. I am sure it was cited in a previous discussion that some States have a consent age of 14. It can vary for girls and boys too I think.

It is the 21 for drinking thing I have never got my head around.

:D Just seen Jeff's post


(I assume he is joking :) )

[WildCat]

I was once in a Walmart and there was a large group of employees at one of the cashlanes. The impromptu debate panel was prompted by an 8-10 year old girl trying to buy a 20" Stanley hand saw.

There was no popup, but they were unsure if it was allowed.

They eventually let her buy it, but someone was going to query corporate for future guidance.
I'd bet this is a result of the idiotic "zero tolerance" weapons policies many people have grown up accepting these days. After all, when a kid can get suspended from school for drawing a picture of a gun I can see the confusion that results from a child buying a saw.

[Jeff Corey]

Moi?

[David Wong]

I work at a Sam's Club, and we sell condoms in 100 pack boxes.

The dude who buys that has a very different lifestyle than mine...

[Nogbad]

Strangely in the US although the age of consent may 16 the minimum age for marriage in South Carolina is 14.

[Jeff Corey]

I'd bet this is a result of the idiotic "zero tolerance" weapons policies many people have grown up accepting these days. After all, when a kid can get suspended from school for drawing a picture of a gun...
I didn't see that, got a reference? What would happen if the kid drew a tactical thermonuclear device? Or a Doomsday Machine? A Death Star? A Solar Powered Dildo?

[Nogbad]

I didn't see that, got a reference? What would happen if the kid drew a tactical thermonuclear device? Or a Doomsday Machine? A Death Star? A Solar Powered Dildo?

The Dildo would cause a moral seizure

[Jeff Corey]

Strangely in the US although the age of consent may 16 the minimum age for marriage in South Carolina is 14.
So they can get married but can't do the old in and out?

[Nogbad]

So they can get married but can't do the old in and out?

If married it is no longer naughty and therefore they are not having illicit fun....

or something like that.

[WildCat]

I didn't see that, got a reference?
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/95563

Not the only case either.

What would happen if the kid drew a tactical thermonuclear device? Or a Doomsday Machine? A Death Star? A Solar Powered Dildo?
I can only imagine...

[tyr_13]

The dude who buys that has a very different lifestyle than mine...

They come packaged for resale, but the only time I sold one when I was a cashier was to a young married couple with a non-business membership. Sadly they only carry regular size.

I think it is crazy that in some states you have to be 21 to by porn, yet you can get married at seventeen or eighteen. That means you can get married at 18, but you can't drink wine at the reception. You can have a child the next year, get drafted, be injured, experience erectile dysfunction from the injury, but be too young to buy marital aids to please your young wife.

[luchog]

I can ensure you that law has been unapplied except in vice cases for decades in Texas. I've seen condoms in convenience stores since I moved here in '86. Materials and sexual aids have been availible by mail order or from "novelty" stores like Spencers Gifts, adult bookstores and specialty shops. Before I moved to Dallas "Christies Toy Box" created quite a buzz in Wichita Falls. That was in 1992.
Not true; as the 2006 Ignacio Sergio Acosta v. state of Texas, 05-1574 demonstrates. There was also Joanne Webb in 2004, the raid on Somethin' Sexy in 2007 (with the clerk working at the time of the raid threatened by the courts with registration as a sex offender, prior to the law being invalidated), and more. Only took a few minutes to dig those up.

[Oliver]

I grew up in small-town Texas, and I remember that the condoms were locked behind a glass case in some stores and you had to ask for them. Similarly, I think you had to ask for pregnancy tests.


Aren't there condom machines? :confused: Over here you find those
machines in almost every public toilet. Plus the OP sounded
like it was a Wal-Mart policy.

[luchog]

I think the age varies widely according to State. I am sure it was cited in a previous discussion that some States have a consent age of 14. It can vary for girls and boys too I think.

The lowest age of consent for sex in the US is 16. Many states have a seperate age of consent for homosexual sex that is higher than the age of consent for heterosexual sex.

Age of consent for marriage is a different animal entirely. It goes down as low as 14 for males, and as low as 13 for females (New Hampshire, although several other states have consent as low as 14 for both sexes, and most require parental consent for under-16). In many states, the age of consent for females is lower than the age of consent for males.

[Jeff Corey]

That clearly doesn't include the sheep.

[ShowerComic]

I grew up in small-town Texas, and I remember that the condoms were locked behind a glass case in some stores and you had to ask for them. Similarly, I think you had to ask for pregnancy tests.

I noticed at my Local Walmart both Condoms, and Pregancy test kits were on the shelves, next to each other. -- Course that's in Mass.

Sorry I can't be a test case, -- being well over 18.

[Alareth]

I'd bet this is a result of the idiotic "zero tolerance" weapons policies many people have grown up accepting these days. After all, when a kid can get suspended from school for drawing a picture of a gun I can see the confusion that results from a child buying a saw.

Gee, prior to this the dumbest zero tolerance story I had seen was a girl that discovered she had mistakenly picked up her mothers lunch bag instead of her own and there was a small paring knife in the bag for cutting up an apple. As soon as she found it she turned it over to her teacher and was promptly suspended.

[UnrepentantSinner]

I can ensure you that law has been unapplied except in vice cases for decades in Texas. I've seen condoms in convenience stores since I moved here in '86. Materials and sexual aids have been availible by mail order or from "novelty" stores like Spencers Gifts, adult bookstores and specialty shops. Before I moved to Dallas "Christies Toy Box" created quite a buzz in Wichita Falls. That was in 1992.
Not true; as the 2006 Ignacio Sergio Acosta v. state of Texas, 05-1574 demonstrates. There was also Joanne Webb in 2004, the raid on Somethin' Sexy in 2007 (with the clerk working at the time of the raid threatened by the courts with registration as a sex offender, prior to the law being invalidated), and more. Only took a few minutes to dig those up.

I probably could have phrased the bolded part better, but I assure it is true that enforcement has been selective at best over the years. In Dallas, the New Fine Arts bookstore has been in continuous operation since I moved here in '93 and even expanded to two other locations. Spencers Gifts was still in operation in Wichita Falls the last time I was there.

- edit

I looked up the Acosta case and it sounds exactly like the selective vice enforcement I was discussing. And, again, I point to the number of continuously operating novelty, sexual novelty and adult book stores selling pornography and aids I've listed.

[Nogbad]

The lowest age of consent for sex in the US is 16. Many states have a seperate age of consent for homosexual sex that is higher than the age of consent for heterosexual sex.

Age of consent for marriage is a different animal entirely. It goes down as low as 14 for males, and as low as 13 for females (New Hampshire, although several other states have consent as low as 14 for both sexes, and most require parental consent for under-16). In many states, the age of consent for females is lower than the age of consent for males.


Yes, it was the marriage anomaly I was thinking of. Presumably a married 14 year old could buy rubber socks then?

[RandFan]

That clearly doesn't include the sheep. Yeah, well, sheep lie.

[Ladewig]

It is the 21 for drinking thing I have never got my head around.


The auto insurance industry has a strong lobby. It is not strong enough to influence 50 different state legislatures to raise the age to 21, but it is strong enough to get congress to withhold federal highway funds from any state that does not raise the age to 21. Louisiana tried holding out, tourism is big business down there, but eventually caved.

[boloboffin]

I just don't think a Solar Powered Dildo is a feasible product.

[gdnp]

No. States differ. In West Virginia, for example, it is 8 years old.



That provision only applies to blood relatives. ;)

[TragicMonkey]

I just don't think a Solar Powered Dildo is a feasible product.

It could be at some locations on the Moon. Apparently there are places they call "peaks of eternal light" which, because of the elevation and rotation of the Moon, are never out of direct sunlight. Isn't that strange? The moonbase they're thinking of building would be located in one of those places to get maximum solar power advantage.

As for condoms at Walmart, the one down the street from me carries condoms but they only carry lube in impractically tiny bottles. I suspect they are trying to stamp out sex not by directly opposing it, but by encouraging bad sex.

[skepticalfred]

It could be at some locations on the Moon. Apparently there are places they call "peaks of eternal light" which, because of the elevation and rotation of the Moon, are never out of direct sunlight. Isn't that strange? The moonbase they're thinking of building would be located in one of those places to get maximum solar power advantage.

As for condoms at Walmart, the one down the street from me carries condoms but they only carry lube in impractically tiny bottles. I suspect they are trying to stamp out sex not by directly opposing it, but by encouraging bad sex.

Honestly I don't get the impression that people shopping at walmart have much need for tiny bottles of lube, most rednecks use Vaseline anyway. :blush:

[I Ratant]

Aren't there condom machines? :confused: Over here you find those
machines in almost every public toilet. Plus the OP sounded
like it was a Wal-Mart policy.
.
Way back in the olden days the restrooms at many gas stations in Kansas had those machines... "For prevention of venereal disease". if memory serves.
I just bought some Trojans at Wal Mart while Sweet Thang was buying girly stuff. Wasn't carded.

[I Ratant]

Yeah, well, sheep lie.
.
But what do they do if you tip them?

[NobbyNobbs]

It could be at some locations on the Moon. Apparently there are places they call "peaks of eternal light" which, because of the elevation and rotation of the Moon, are never out of direct sunlight. Isn't that strange? The moonbase they're thinking of building would be located in one of those places to get maximum solar power advantage.


/derail/

I don't see this at all. During a full moon, the half facing us is entirely lit. During a solar eclipse, the half facing away from us is entirely lit. During crescent phases, the "left" and "right" "edges" are alternately lit and dark.

Where on the moon could there be a spot that is always lit?

I do know there are spots, at the bottoms of some craters or the bases of some mountains, that due to the angle from the sun never see the light of day. Could this be what you were thinking of?

[Safe-Keeper]

The Wiki isn't the world's best source, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_of_Eternal_Light

[my_wan]

See, I don't get this way of thinking. A cashier's job is to stand at a till and ring up purchases that customers bring to them. If three fewer people come to buy things today than did yesterday, or if the shoppers who come in tonight buy less expensive things on average, how on earth can that possibly be attributed to a problem with the cashier? The cashier deals with people who have already decided to buy something; he is not a salesman.

Although upper management often pushes +sales as UncaYimmy mentions, cashiers seldom actually practice it. It's not really an issue.

Shift analysis is a very effective tool for tracking down thieves working for the store. The difference of 3 customers or any single shift variance is not enough to make a statistical difference. There are multiple indicators in a good analysis that can alleviate or exacerbate the analysis. Often in this town football games and major manufacturers working short weeks can vastly effect sales. These variances are easily accounted for in a properly implemented shift analysis. The fact is that a properly implemented shift analysis will flag thieves before it starts showing up in store audits. There are tactics that a cashier can use to circumvent it but it also limits what the cashier can take and from where. I will not discuss such tactics specifically here.

Even when a shift analysis red flags an employee and it also shows up in the store audits it is not enough to accuse the employee of anything. Once flagged an employees schedule will often get rearranged in order for the statistical picture to be made clearer and the opportunities to actually witness what is happening greatly enhanced. Never should the analysis be used as the grounds for any accusations. A well run store can often match dollar for dollar the problems on a shift analysis with the deficits in the store audit. Stores are rarely run this well. You would be shocked at how much employee theft does occur. A single employee left unchecked can turn a profitable single store into bankruptcy level losses fairly quickly in some cases. Shift analysis is extremely effective when used properly. Unfortunately many smaller operators either abuse it through ignorance or fails to use it at all. Manager who don't get this way of thinking are a major problem and too few of them do get it.

[Madalch]

It could be at some locations on the Moon. Apparently there are places they call "peaks of eternal light" which, because of the elevation and rotation of the Moon, are never out of direct sunlight.

Most people don't use such items outside, in broad daylight.

Particularly on the Moon.

[TragicMonkey]

Most people don't use such items outside, in broad daylight.

Particularly on the Moon.

You haven't been to any of MY Moon parties, then, obviously. Ain't no party like Monkey Moon party because a Monkey Moon party don't stop!

[wolfgirl]

I grew up in small-town Texas, and I remember that the condoms were locked behind a glass case in some stores and you had to ask for them. Similarly, I think you had to ask for pregnancy tests.I noticed that the condoms are locked in a case at my local grocery store...in Liberty, Missouri.

[Nogbad]

I noticed that the condoms are locked in a case at my local grocery store...in Liberty, Missouri.

In case of fire break glass sort of thing?

[Uncayimmy]

Although upper management often pushes +sales as UncaYimmy mentions, cashiers seldom actually practice it. It's not really an issue.

I'm sure that's true. I've noticed some clerks are really good at it while others never even bother. Do they ever offer bonuses for up-sales? I'm not in retail, so I don't know.

Shift analysis is a very effective tool for tracking down thieves working for the store.

I figured that was it.

Hyde: I'm just saying that Jackie needs a place to say, and it would be really cool if you could ask her in a way that doesn't make her feel bad.

Donna: FINE. But she called me unpopular, okay? Unpopular girls don't get free slurpees from Tommy at the 7-Eleven!

Hyde: Donna, two years ago, Tommy tried to jump a school bus on his moped. He didn’t make it. And now he gives everyone free Slurpees.

[my_wan]

Do they ever offer bonuses for up-sales? I'm not in retail, so I don't know.

Not specifically for up-sales but if you are bucking for promotions you might better make sure your sales are better than average.

[I Ratant]

Most people don't use such items outside, in broad daylight.

Particularly on the Moon.
.
On the First of May, drifting down from very high flying airplanes, on Guard Channel, listeners can frequently hear:
"Hurray, hurray
It's the first of May
Outdoor screwing
Starts today!"
According to one of our test pilots who flew the U-2.

[King of the Americas]

Well, I sent an e-mail to Wal-mart's HQ, but I still haven't heard anything back yet.

I hesistate to confront one of the store's managers because I know the cashier personally, and I don't want to get her in trouble, although I guess I could say I don't remember when it happened or who the cashier was...

I think I'd rather the 'big-wigs' at Wal-mart despense the marching orders from the top down, rather than just trying to change local store policies.

So is it against Texas State Law to sell a condom to someone under 18?

[WildCat]

I hesistate to confront one of the store's managers because I know the cashier personally, and I don't want to get her in trouble, although I guess I could say I don't remember when it happened or who the cashier was...
Then why didn't you simply ask the cashier if that was store policy? :boggled:

[ponderingturtle]

I think the age varies widely according to State. I am sure it was cited in a previous discussion that some States have a consent age of 14. It can vary for girls and boys too I think.

No US states have a general age of consent level that low, but there are states that if both people are close enough in age that sex below the age of consent is legal.


You have to go international to get an age of consent that low. Spain and Japan would be examples I believe

[noch1Narr]

Is there a minimum age of consent for sheep in Texas?
Male or female?

[UnrepentantSinner]

Is there a minimum age of consent for sheep in Texas?
Male or female?

You're confusing Texas with Montana smartass.

[Wildy]

Or America with New Zealand.

[King of the Americas]

Then why didn't you simply ask the cashier if that was store policy? :boggled:

I know, I am just as disappointed in my non-instant reaction, as you are now.

But like I said, I know this woman personally, and I didn't want to make a big fuss or get her in trouble. It was only in retro-spect that I began thinking how truly 'dumb' it is to deprive a teenager of condoms.

I remembered back when 'I' was a kid, literally affraid of buying them from my local pharmacy, simply because I thought those working there would tell me parents, when they came in next. (I live in a very small town.)

I bought my condoms in the men's room, like normal people.

This kid had the gonads to walk into Wal-mart and buy ONLY a box of condoms!? Had I to do it over again, I'd have DEFINATELY bought them for him, refused to take his money, and told him "Good for you, man! KEEP practicing safe sex."

[Madalch]

But like I said, I know this woman personally...

So ask her now.

[Darth Rotor]

At the risk of pissing off my wife, I am sorely tempted to ask my sixteen year old son to purchase, with money I give him, a box of condoms at the local drug store. I'll be fascinated, and stunned, to learn that he gets carded.

When I was in high school, I didn't know too many guys who did not keep a rubber in their wallet, kept their on the outside chance one was to "get lucky."

DR

[my_wan]

I just don't think a Solar Powered Dildo is a feasible product.

Tell that to the woman that took out a telephone pole on the interstate exit ramp here a couple of years ago. The dildo was still humming away when the cops got there.

True story. Tried to find it but you can guess what google returned.

[ponderingturtle]

Tell that to the woman that took out a telephone pole on the interstate exit ramp here a couple of years ago. The dildo was still humming away when the cops got there.

True story. Tried to find it but you can guess what google returned.

why look at that and not the NBA Player Eddie Griffin who crashed his SUV while masterbating to porn, while drunk and with out a licience.

link (http://wcco.com/topstories/Eddie.Griffin.Minnesota.2.359712.html)

[pgwenthold]

But like I said, I know this woman personally, and I didn't want to make a big fuss or get her in trouble. It was only in retro-spect that I began thinking how truly 'dumb' it is to deprive a teenager of condoms.




Do you think maybe she wanted to know if he was 18 for her own benefit?

[Soapy Sam]

Honestly I don't get the impression that people shopping at walmart have much need for tiny bottles of lube, most rednecks use Vaseline anyway. :blush:

Nancies.

Real rednecks use motor oil.

[BenBurch]

The dude who buys that has a very different lifestyle than mine...

Or, as I used to, helps run swinger's events.

[Ixion]

I was unaware that swingers required event planners.

Back on topic, the Wal-Marts here do not lock up condoms or pregnancy kits.

I will be interested to hear if KotA Wal-Mart has that store policy specifically or if it is a Texas Wal-Mart thing.

[BenBurch]

I was unaware that swingers required event planners.

Back on topic, the Wal-Marts here do not lock up condoms or pregnancy kits.

I will be interested to hear if KotA Wal-Mart has that store policy specifically or if it is a Texas Wal-Mart thing.

You have no idea. You need to negotiate with a hotel, and a secure a room block, and advertise, and hire or recruit door security and check-in people, and hire a DJ and have people to help decorate and do registration and then when its done to loadout and cleanup... Its a hell of a lot of work!

My friends who owned the business were making a million a year doing it, though. And they paid me pretty well for being the guy they trusted with their money at the events, too. (You have no idea how hard it is to find an honest person to man a till.)

[King of the Americas]

I just got a call, from the local store, "Shelia" left a message for me to call her back.

Which is exactly how I DIDN'T want to handle this.

I just wanted to know from the 'home office' if this was a State Code thing, a national store policy thing, or an error by a clerk...

Now, it is gonna get personal. Sheesh...

Why can't people just dictate orders down from the home office anymore!?

[danava]

So you if you are under 21, you can't buy alcohol because you are not allowed to drink it. You can't buy tobacco, because you are not allowed to smoke it. So if you can't buy condoms (under the age of 17 as for Texas), that should mean that you can't prevent yourself or your partner from pregnancy, not that you can't sleep with somebody.

[WildCat]

So if you can't buy condoms (under the age of 17 as for Texas),
Do you have evidence for that?

eta: still wondering why KotA won't simply ask the cashier he claims to know personally...

[King of the Americas]

Well, I asked another cashier, and one of the managers what the policy is for condoms sales to minors.

Both said that they were unaware of any 'store' policy, or register prompt that would deny the sale. But I didn't stick around long enough to for the manager to go back to the office to verify this. I only quaried the manager because sher was already there to void a transaction.

I don't really want to get all up in this at the local level, mostly because the denial didn't happen to 'me'.

Wildcat,

The woman in question is a grandmother, who I have only seen once since the incident. 'I' don't want to be the one to tell her she did the wrong thing. I'd rather a manager do that. Which is why I wanted this to be handled at the corporate level.

[KodeBlue]

Not only was the lad being denied access to contraception (which may or may not have been his motive) he was also denied a way to protect himself from HIV & STD's. Maybe he was he wasn't going to use them with a girl;). I hope the religious right doesn't get that idea...making it illegal for gays to purchase condoms. Maybe that will be "Prop. 9".:p

Also, laws vary from state to state it might be legal for minors to purchase condoms in some states but restricted in others. Some states might require a person to of the age of consent to purchase them.