Ron Paul gets even nuttier...

[dudalb]

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html


Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

[moon1969]

NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense.

[Drudgewire]

I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn’t win, they’d have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time.


Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude. :p

[Galileo]

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html


Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

Who are the nuts who started the war on drugs? Not Ron Paul.

[Galileo]

Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude. :p

I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication.

[moon1969]

Just riduculous. Global government? Is Ron Paul talking about a place like North Korea?

[dudalb]

Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude. :p

That little "Obama was the Back up" statement by Paul was what made me think "The guy has gone to a whole new level of nuttiness".

[Galileo]

NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense.

I agree the NWO is insane. George Bush is insane for proposing it on Sepytember, 11, 1991. I oppose the NWO.

[shuize]

You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article:

"Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..."

[Galileo]

You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article:

"Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..."

Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years.

[Galileo]

Just riduculous. Global government? Is Ron Paul talking about a place like North Korea?

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

[moon1969]

Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov.

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

Fortunately for Paul he's still safe. He's a congressman and as a rule about congressmen no one knows who their damn congressman is. Right now there's a guy sitting in Texas' 14th district thinking "Whew, I'm glad Ron Paul doesn't represent me!"

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me...

[Axiom_Blade]

As is often the case, you clear away the nuttiness and you get a grain of truth:

“Just as a Republican Congress wouldn’t say boo to a Republican Congress, you know that the Democratic Congress is NEVER going to stand up.”

“I think it is very dangerous and the first year is going to be the most dangerous year.” Paul stated. “Just think of Bush’s first year, he also had the 9/11 thing that he could use to scare everybody to death. And Obama will use the financial crisis, which will get worse, and there will be more military skirmishes around the world.” Paul asserted.

...

“It’s the philosophy of the Bush doctrine, which was that we have the right to preemptively strike anybody and then he even expanded that recently by saying we don’t have to invade and conquer, but we have the right to go in and bomb anybody without their permission, and that’s why we go into Pakistan and Syria, which are acts of war. So they have the tools to do it and the sentiment and most Americans are oblivious to what is happening.”

All "hope" and "change" hype aside, I think that many Americans are worried that Obama won't be that much different from Bush. Paul speaks to that, albeit in a very paranoid, conspiracy-minded way.

[WildCat]

I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication.
Not as old as Ron Paul.

[WildCat]

The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me...
And they fail spectacularly at that.

[Checkmite]

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

And they fail spectacularly at that.

Hey, I never said they did it well only that's what they're supposed to be doing!

[CriticalThinking]

dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

[thesyntaxera]

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

It is better to try and fail than not try at all.

[Axiom_Blade]

What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

Superior Grammar and Capitalization.

[WildCat]

It is better to try and fail than not try at all.
You either do or do not.
There is no try.





:D

[TexasJack]

Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years.

No wonder he's a loser.

[dudalb]

dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

Is "Drones" replacing "Sheeple" as the Tin Foil Brigade's term of abuse for anybody who does not buy into their crap?

[steve s]

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.


[truther mode]
Obviously they commit a lot of errors so it won't be so obvious that they're all-powerful. Much the same way that the U.S. gubmint gives us rights and freedom so that we won't notice that we don't have any rights or freedom...or something like that.
[/truther mode]


Steve S.

[Checkmite]

His supporters aside, I am now convinced that Ron Paul, whatever his beliefs, is truly no different from any other politician. If he truly believes that the US elections are rigged, that the outcome is pre-determined by "them", and that the losing candidates are all, in fact, "back-up" candidates placed by the same "them" in case "their" main candidate loses (even though that can't happen, because "they" control the election), this leaves the question:

Why did Ron Paul bother running at all? Why did Ron Paul take - nay, ALLOW his supporters to give tens of MILLIONS of dollars to him, if he knew he could not possibly win? What is he doing with all his campaign money now, I wonder?

I'm sorry, but that's all money that his followers could have spent on more important things, like food, medicine, gasoline, or guns and ammunition to repel the reptilian shapeshifting kitten-eating rulers of the Earth when they try to take over the US even though they already completely control it.

[Tin Foil Timothy]

There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development.

All the continental unions, the EU, African Union, Asian Union, North American Union ( when it arrives ), South American Union, etc will eventually merge into a World Union.

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov.

Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it?

[leonAzul]

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html


Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

Or rather, The None.

vox populi vox dei est

:bgrin:

Democracy has spoken.

:-/

[Ziggurat]

There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development.

Marxism was largely predicated on the notion of historical inevitability. Didn't quite work out that way, but the lesson has been lost on many spectators. There are considerably forces pushing for political autonomy for various groups, even within currently politically unified states. One ignores such forces at their peril. Nothing about their demise is inevitable, let alone likely.

[Ziggurat]

Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it?

Such cluelessness. The number of Afghan refugees living outside the country decreased after the US invasion, because many people were able to return home after the Taliban were kicked out. That is considerably different. And while there has been a slow exodus of Iraqi sunnis, you will search in vain for refugee camps of the sort that the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan produced.

Next time reality calls, try picking up the phone.

[thesyntaxera]

You either do or do not.
There is no try.





:D

Thank you Yoda.

[luchog]

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

That's just what they want you to think. In fact, they engineered those particular events, in order to expand their covert control over...

crap, I just don't have enough drugs handy to take that any farther.

[BenBurch]

On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says. :(

[Travis]

On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says. :(

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

[mrbaracuda]

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

Ahahahah! :D

[BenBurch]

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

OK, I'm dense. I didn't get the joke.

[EDIT] OH! Just got it. Sheesh. :D

[Patejdl]

What is NWO btw? There's no definite meaning to the NWO thing.. old Bush spoke about it or even Sarkozy spoke about it ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkpHmjgg7xU )

Peace peace peace.. it's all they want but cannot bring us.. I understand NWO as a world with more "advanced politics" with something new and bigger that UN or EU thing and it will consume billions and billions of more money in order to fail even more miserably..

NWO in the heads of the utopistic politicians is just some "global governance" in order to secure "this and that" a.k.a sustainable developement...

And who got the "global governance award" of 1999? Walter Cronkite :) Even Michael Douglas is a utopistic world governance guy.. proof? It's 17 minutes long but it's clear what is it all about since the first few mins.. a must watch!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hillary+aso&emb=0&aq=f#q=hillary%20asi&emb=0

So global governance ideas and wishes are true :P But not in the Alex Jones way ;)

[Suddenly]

I always figured that Ron Paul's getting into bed with Chuck Baldwin, a man that essentially advocates the creation of an American Theocracy, would end his credibility as to skeptics.

It also puts the lie to the claim that he is in fact a libertarian rather than what he really is, a state's rights authoritarian. He opposes federal power, but all bets are off when it comes to the state and local level. He endorsed a radical social conservative who believes all law is and should be based in the word of God...

[Checkmite]

I always figured that Ron Paul's getting into bed with Chuck Baldwin, a man that essentially advocates the creation of an American Theocracy, would end his credibility as to skeptics.

It also puts the lie to the claim that he is in fact a libertarian rather than what he really is, a state's rights authoritarian. He opposes federal power, but all bets are off when it comes to the state and local level. He endorsed a radical social conservative who believes all law is and should be based in the word of God...

Not to mention that Baldwin is a dyed-in-the-wool Troofer, thinks a superhighway system spanning Texas is a threat to American freedom, and believes that those who disrespect the Confederacy simply misunderstand how good slaves had it in the South.

[dudalb]

Not to mention that Baldwin is a dyed-in-the-wool Troofer, thinks a superhighway system spanning Texas is a threat to American freedom, and believes that those who disrespect the Confederacy simply misunderstand how good slaves had it in the South.


Sadly, the last statement is a familiar meme among Libertarians,as witness Lew Rockwell's endless over the top attacks on Abraham Lincoln as an evil tyrant, and his attempts to portray Jefferson David as a champion of individual liberty. That is one reason why, although a believer in limited government and a free market, I am not a Libertarian.

[WildCat]

What is NWO btw? There's no definite meaning to the NWO thing.. old Bush spoke about it or even Sarkozy spoke about it ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkpHmjgg7xU )
It simply refers to the balance of power changing after the breakup of the USSR.

Ron Paul and his fellow paranoid conspiracy nutters think it's some sort of secret all-powerful organization that REALLY controls the world.

[Patejdl]

Ron Paul and his fellow paranoid conspiracy nutters think it's some sort of secret all-powerful organization that REALLY controls the world.

No Ron Paul never did mention anything like that. It's you and the conspiracy nutters who (who happen to like Ron Paul) mention it all the time. I don't get it. Is this a forum for critical thinkers or just a group of guys (little children mob) who like to pick on poor deluded persons and then make over-generalized assumptions just to show off how cool they are while they smite people who are quite criticaly thinking themselves.

The truth is there are people who want and lobby very strongly for today's and future's powerfull organisations (look at the world federalist association video in the link I posted earlier.. I mean what better evidence there is?? want PEACE? surrender your sovereignity.. simple as that). And basicaly this organisation itself is quite "hidden" which only means they don't like to get media attention.

But no.. in order to bash the whole idea of such painfully evident hyper-globalisation you chose to pick on poor idiots who think that the NWO is somekind of a devilish organisation which wants to enslave the planet. The truth is that people who are hyper-globalists are just ussualy old poor rich deluded people (Sorors is a good example... many quotes on his globalist agenda are out there) who want to save the planet from wars and etc. but they always fail to understand the true problems of governance comming from just a few places). You even go that far and put words, meanings and ideas into mouth of people who understand globalisation very well (no I don't really mean that whackjob Alex Jones.. he's insane). I'm a great fan of James Randi because he takes such an effort when he quotes someone to get it 100% right.. sadly not many fans of him do this too.. distorting the truth is a big crime. Randi knows that too...

How many times in the past there have been people who wanted global this or that?? This is your NWO and I don't see Ron Paul saying anything beyond this.

[dudalb]

No Ron Paul never did mention anything like that. It's you and the conspiracy nutters who (who happen to like Ron Paul) mention it all the time. I don't get it. Is this a forum for critical thinkers or just a group of guys (little children mob) who like to pick on poor deluded persons and then make over-generalized assumptions just to show off how cool they are while they smite people who are quite criticaly thinking themselves.

The truth is there are people who want and lobby very strongly for today's and future's powerfull organisations (look at the world federalist association video in the link I posted earlier.. I mean what better evidence there is?? want PEACE? surrender your sovereignity.. simple as that). And basicaly this organisation itself is quite "hidden" which only means they don't like to get media attention.

But no.. in order to bash the whole idea of such painfully evident hyper-globalisation you chose to pick on poor idiots who think that the NWO is somekind of a devilish organisation which wants to enslave the planet. The truth is that people who are hyper-globalists are just ussualy old poor rich deluded people (Sorors is a good example... many quotes on his globalist agenda are out there) who want to save the planet from wars and etc. but they always fail to understand the true problems of governance comming from just a few places). You even go that far and put words, meanings and ideas into mouth of people who understand globalisation very well (no I don't really mean that whackjob Alex Jones.. he's insane). I'm a great fan of James Randi because he takes such an effort when he quotes someone to get it 100% right.. sadly not many fans of him do this too.. distorting the truth is a big crime. Randi knows that too...

How many times in the past there have been people who wanted global this or that?? This is your NWO and I don't see Ron Paul saying anything beyond this.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1884048c0441c04bd0.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13694)

[gdnp]

[Sarah Palin defender mode] Why can't you people leave Ron Paul alone? Don't you know that the presidential elections are over? Why do you keep picking on him? Just because you disagree with some of his policies doesn't mean that he isn't really smart or that he hasn't had a distinguished congressional career. That you guys keep picking on him just proves that you are afraid of him, and need to destroy him so he doesn't run again in 2012, because if he does you know he will beat your simpering simian of sophistry Obama. [/sarah palin defender mode]

[WildCat]

No Ron Paul never did mention anything like that.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

Z8DpKKSmaa8

[HereticHulk]

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

Z8DpKKSmaa8

President-Elect Ron Paul.

If only......:rolleyes:

[Checkmite]

Sadly, the last statement is a familiar meme among Libertarians,as witness Lew Rockwell's endless over the top attacks on Abraham Lincoln as an evil tyrant, and his attempts to portray Jefferson David as a champion of individual liberty. That is one reason why, although a believer in limited government and a free market, I am not a Libertarian.

The funny part about that is, if they read the Confederate constitution, they'll find that it is, save some small procedural issues, nearly identical to the United States Constitution. The only additional restriction on federal power in the Confederate states was the specific inability to abolish slavery. But, of course, "it wasn't about slavery".

[AWPrime]

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html

Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.Some people have really high hopes and dreams, and when they realize they are running out of time (getting older) they may becomes desperate and/or start blaming others.

[HereticHulk]

This is like shooting fish in a barrel...

Z8DpKKSmaa8

It could be that he and Bush Sr are talking about the end of our financial order and the beginning of a new financial world order (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/steelman6.html).

[quixotecoyote]

It could be that he and Bush Sr are talking about the end of our financial order and the beginning of a new financial world order (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/steelman6.html).

Or not if you actually listen to the question he was answering.

Q: Is there an evil one world government forming?

A: Yes.

HH: He obviously didn't mean he believes in an evil one world government forming.

:clrolleyes:

[Patejdl]

Nope he didn't say anything in the line of conspiracy nutters but more in the line of "who cares about sovereignity" ala world federalist association nutters. But yes North American Union is a highly "unsure" thing actually...

Q: Are there people pushing for some kind of a global governance/world law/big world goverment/one world goverment - anything big global powerfull

A: Yes. Just a single group and there are more inu9vKXsrFA

It's more of like shooting a fish in a glass of water actually :P

[Mister Agenda]

Sadly, the last statement is a familiar meme among Libertarians,as witness Lew Rockwell's endless over the top attacks on Abraham Lincoln as an evil tyrant, and his attempts to portray Jefferson David as a champion of individual liberty. That is one reason why, although a believer in limited government and a free market, I am not a Libertarian.

I have some (faint) hope that the Constitution Party will drain off some of the LPs nuttier nuts and allow us to progress to a more centrist 'Classic Liberal' party. The LP is ripe for infiltration by people who simply want to promote more social freedom, more limited government, and a freer market rather than radical purists. After all, there are ten times more people like you, Dudalb, than there are people currently in the LP.

[dudalb]

Nope he didn't say anything in the line of conspiracy nutters but more in the line of "who cares about sovereignity" ala world federalist association nutters. But yes North American Union is a highly "unsure" thing actually...

Q: Are there people pushing for some kind of a global governance/world law/big world goverment/one world goverment - anything big global powerfull

A: Yes. Just a single group and there are more inu9vKXsrFA

It's more of like shooting a fish in a glass of water actually :P


Yawn. Sounds to me more like just saying stuff because it sounds warm and fuzzy rather then any concrete scheme for a One World Government.

[Father Dagon]

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.Well, some swedes hyping of the UN is clearly more pathetic. And worst of all, a great deal of the swedish UN fanbois are vehemently against EU and NATO.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development.

All the continental unions, the EU, African Union, Asian Union, North American Union ( when it arrives ), South American Union, etc will eventually merge into a World Union.

Right.

Because competition (and unfortunately, conflict) is one of the main driving forces in human history. And the formation of these unions is driven by the need to match the strength of the superpowers (USA, China, Russia).

We too will ultimately need to form a global union to balance the power and strength of the martian-venusian axis.

Oh, waitaminute...

[KellyG]

He opposes federal power, but all bets are off when it comes to the state and local level. He endorsed a radical social conservative who believes all law is and should be based in the word of God...

I find this to be a common thread among libertarians I know. Whatever the states decide is fine, as long as it isn't imposed by the federal government.
It does make me think that many of these people are just trying to make the bible the law of the land, but one step at a time, beginning with the state in which they live.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

The UN can't even bend Canada (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/947603.html) to its will.

[Malkuth]

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations SAID IT tried, but DID NOT WANT TO end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

Fixed.

RE: The NATO ones, who do you think controls NATO?

[Checkmite]

Fixed.

RE: The NATO ones, who do you think controls NATO?

I can play that game too. [conspiracymode=on]Who do you think controls the UN?[/mode]

[Cleon]

I can play that game too. [conspiracymode=on]Who do you think controls the UN?[/mode]

Squirrels.

[Malkuth]

Have you seen the movie Them? I think it's them. It's certainly not Ron Paul.

[Chaos]

Squirrels.

That´s what the chipmunks want you to believe.

[Gangularis]

[COLOR="Red"]And who got the "global governance award" of 1999? Walter Cronkite :)

Well duh... you know he voiced the owl at Bohemian grove, too!!