Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

[Darat]

The talmud is the reason for the jewish problem. The talmud is the most EVIL, RACIST book written by jewish men. The talmud reviles all non-jews. The talmud is considered the holiest book to jews. Every non-jew should be concerned and look into this problem. Research the word "talmud" and you will see...

Can you point me to some of the more evil bits? I have a copy on my bookshelf so it's no hassle for me to go and check on your claim.

[defaultdotxbe]

The talmud is the reason for the jewish problem. The talmud is the most EVIL, RACIST book written by jewish men. The talmud reviles all non-jews. The talmud is considered the holiest book to jews. Every non-jew should be concerned and look into this problem. Research the word "talmud" and you will see...
i'm not jewish so someone can correct me on this, but isnt the Torah the holiest book?

[marksman]

Yes, the Torah is holiest book of Judaism. (Though, I guess, technically, it's a scroll, not a book, but still.)

But if the Torah is the most racist book written by Jewish men, then that speaks pretty well for male, Jewish authors, as it's not a particularly racist book (and doesn't revile all non-Jews -- though people have attributed false quotes to the Talmud saying that). (Though, I guess, technically, the Talmud is a series of many books written over a thousand years, but still.)

[cwalner]

Yeah, The Torah is the holiest book to the Jews, or actually 5 books. The names of the individual books, are of course: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers. Christians, may actually recognize those names are they are part of what Christians consider the Holiest of books as well.

The Talmud is basically the Torah: The annotated version. It simply is the Torah with commentary and interpretation from Rabinical scholars compiled over the years. Is some of the commentary racist and anti-goyim. Sure, but it is commentary that came from specific times and specific circumstances. The commentary is not considered holy, but is respected as it comes from those considered to be the foremost authority on the subject for thier time.

[rachelslight]

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament (Torah) in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The Talmud reviles all non-jews. Every non-jew should be concerned about this and research this EVIL, RACIST book called "Talmud."

For example, the Talmud says it is OK to cheat non-jews: Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

According to Talmud, Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

So many more evil writings are in the Talmud.

I would like to say this to the jews who will try to fight with me on this forum. I am trying to show you why jews have always been a hated nation. It is your own rabbis who brought this upon you via the Talmud.

[JimBenArm]

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament (Torah) in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The Talmud reviles all non-jews. Every non-jew should be concerned about this and research this EVIL, RACIST book called "Talmud."

For example, the Talmud says it is OK to cheat non-jews: Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

According to Talmud, Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

So many more evil writings are in the Talmud.

I would like to say this to the jews who will try to fight with me on this forum. I am trying to show you why jews have always been a hated nation. It is your own rabbis who brought this upon you via the Talmud.
So what should we do? Hmmm? Do you have any "solutions" in mind?

I bet you do.

[timhau]

So what should we do? Hmmm? Do you have any "solutions" in mind?

I bet you do.

My guess is that you might be wrong on the plural there -- just one solution, but a grand one that makes all other solutions unnecessary. I bet she could come up with a catchy term for it if she put her mind to it.

[dudalb]

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament (Torah) in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The Talmud reviles all non-jews. Every non-jew should be concerned about this and research this EVIL, RACIST book called "Talmud."

For example, the Talmud says it is OK to cheat non-jews: Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

According to Talmud, Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

So many more evil writings are in the Talmud.

I would like to say this to the jews who will try to fight with me on this forum. I am trying to show you why jews have always been a hated nation. It is your own rabbis who brought this upon you via the Talmud.

The beauty of this garbage is it gives the anti semites an excuse to hate ALL jews, regarless of whether they are "Zionists" or not.
Needless to say this is total garbage, and has been refuted time and time and time again. The passages are taken out of context, and often badly translated...on purpose.

[marksman]

The Talmud reviles all non-jews. Every non-jew should be concerned about this and research this EVIL, RACIST book called "Talmud."

For example
All your examples are refuted here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080420184446AAcVGwF) and here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090109011823AAxrtH9) and here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060709072201AApTcHr) and many other places.

[Klimax]

...
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
...
So many more evil writings are in the Talmud.


First,no sources to independent translations or page numbers. So I tracked down paragraph for one. (I think the strange summarie are derived from this one)

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/t06/kam05.htm#page_251
R. Ashi happened to be on the road and saw a vineyard in which some grapes were ripe, and he said to his servant: "Go and see, if it belongs to a heathen, bring me some; and if it belongs to a Jew, do not." The owner of this vineyard, who was a heathen, heard this, and questioned him: "Are the goods of a heathen allowed to be robbed?" And he answered: "I meant, if the owner is a heathen, he will take money for it, but a Jew would not take money from me; and I do not want to have it for nothing." The text states: Samuel said: "The law of the government is to be respected," etc.

But I see others already took it apart...

[CptColumbo]

Australians!

Honest, they own all but two of our banks, and even my Bank in the USA is owned by them. Beware, beware least you too lose your bank to the Ozzies!!
Well, General Zod did proclaim Lex Luthor the "Ruler of Australia."

[Kritikos]

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve
Ben Shalom Bernanke (February 1, 2006 - present)
Alan Greenspan (August 11, 1987 – January 31, 2006)
Paul Adolph Volker (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987)
George William Miller (March 8, 1978 - August 6, 1979)
Arthur Frank Burns (1970- 1978)

Secretaries of the Treasury
Henry Merritt "Hank" Paulson Jr. (July 3, 2006 - present)
John William Snow (February 3, 2003- June 28, 2006)
Paul Henry O'Neill (January 20, 2001 – December 31, 2002)
Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers ( July 2, 1999 - January 20, 2001)
Robert Edward Rubin (January 11, 1995 - July 2, 1999)

With the exceptions of Snow and O’Neill, all of the above are Jews.
It has already been pointed out that Hank Paulson and Paul Volcker are not Jewish. But no one has yet called into question the inclusion of George William Miller on the list. I looked up some biographical articles on him (Wikipedia and newspaper obituaries) and found in them no mention of his or his parents' being Jewish. When I Googled "George William Miller Jewish," I found nothing that connected George William Miller with being Jewish except this page (http://zsidozas.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/obamas-jewschange-we-cant-believe-in/), titled "Obama's Jews," on the Web site "ZSIDOZAS – The Jewish Problem," which contains the exact same table of Chairmen of the Federal Reserve and Secretaries of the Treasury as MaGZ posted. So anyone who is interested in finding out where MaGZ gets his "facts" can visit that site.

It's pretty simple, really. It's not so much that Jews are overrepresented in the finance industry, it's that they're horribly underrepresented in the NBA.

They just need to get a negroplasty (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154778/), like Kyle Broflovsky.

[Darat]

It has already been pointed out that Hank Paulson and Paul Volcker are not Jewish.

...snip...

Yeah but some of their best friends are Jewish!

[Skeptic]

i'm not jewish so someone can correct me on this, but isnt the Torah the holiest book?

The problem for antisemitic nuts is that if the Torah is also holy for Christians, so they can't very well claim it is racist and evil. They must claim the Talmud is the "real" holy book of the Jews since that is not part of the christian canon. (Not that any of those guys even knows what the Talmud is.)

[Skeptic]

The beauty of this garbage is it gives the anti semites an excuse to hate ALL jews, regarless of whether they are "Zionists" or not.
Needless to say this is total garbage, and has been refuted time and time and time again. The passages are taken out of context, and often badly translated...on purpose.

Or simply invented.

[Kritikos]

Read the comments on that "Obama's Jews (http://zsidozas.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/obamas-jewschange-we-cant-believe-in/)" page that I cited, or any other page on that Web site, if you want to see further sickening illustrations of this derangement. Since the belief that Jews control the US government is entrenched in the minds of these people, they see Jews everywhere, whether they are really there or not. Pretty much any time they see a name that looks as if it might be of German origin, they say, "There's another one!", and count it as confirmation of their theory.

[JimBenArm]

So, anyone taking wagers that we'll all be labeled "Jews" or "Zionists" in the next post?

[dudalb]

So, anyone taking wagers that we'll all be labeled "Jews" or "Zionists" in the next post?


Nothing new. Over in his Holocaust Den1al thread (and a more disgusting thread would be hard to find) in the JREF History section 9/11 Investigator accuses all his opponents of being Jews, and has singled me out several times for that honor. Sadly, My Background is Irish on My Mother's Side and German on my Fathers and my family has been Catholic as far back as I can trace.....

[Hokulele]

So, anyone taking wagers that we'll all be labeled "Jews" or "Zionists" in the next post?


Heck, DOC accused me of being Jewish in one of his interminable threads. Considering my mother is Japanese, I found it quite an odd thing to claim.

Hmm, that makes me wonder, how many accusations does it take before I am allowed to help ruin the American economy?

[Horatius]

are the Canadians ... all Jews?



Oy Vey, eh!

[defaultdotxbe]

Heck, DOC accused me of being Jewish in one of his interminable threads. Considering my mother is Japanese, I found it quite an odd thing to claim.

Hmm, that makes me wonder, how many accusations does it take before I am allowed to help ruin the American economy?
your already in:
http://www.oniazuma.com/2008/01/are-japanese-actually-jewish-looking-at.html
:D

[Eyeron]

DBx_I_P6VMA

:D

[Hokulele]

your already in:
http://www.oniazuma.com/2008/01/are-japanese-actually-jewish-looking-at.html
:D


From that blog:

For example, the Japanese Shintoist Holy day is the Yamaboko Junko, or "Going atop the Mountain to lay to rest the Shrine". The day Noah's Ark rested atop Mount Ararat lies on the same day.


*Facepalm*

[Kritikos]

your already in:
http://www.oniazuma.com/2008/01/are-japanese-actually-jewish-looking-at.html
:D
Well, that explains why The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion has sold so well in Japan: the Japanese want to take their proper role in the conspiracy. :rolleyes:

[Algebra34]

I let my wife do the bills at our house. I've complained a few times. She then told me I can do them myself. My wife still does the bills at my house.

[Thunder]

The problem for antisemitic nuts is that if the Torah is also holy for Christians, so they can't very well claim it is racist and evil. They must claim the Talmud is the "real" holy book of the Jews since that is not part of the christian canon. (Not that any of those guys even knows what the Talmud is.)

The Torah is considered to be the LITERAL word of God. The Talmud is considered to be interpretations of the Torah inspired by God.

So clearly, the Torah (really the Tanahk) is more important.

God gave the Torah to the Jewish people, not the Talmud.

[defaultdotxbe]

The Torah is considered to be the LITERAL word of God. The Talmud is considered to be interpretations of the Torah inspired by God.

So clearly, the Torah (really the Tanahk) is more important.

God gave the Torah to the Jewish people, not the Talmud.
well of course you'd say that, your an evil jew!

clearly we cant trust a jew on what jews consider holy :p

[Kritikos]

The Torah is considered to be the LITERAL word of God. The Talmud is considered to be interpretations of the Torah inspired by God.

So clearly, the Torah (really the Tanahk) is more important.

God gave the Torah to the Jewish people, not the Talmud.
That's not quite right. According to Jewish tradition, the oral Torah was given to Moses at Sinai along with the written Torah, and was eventually written down as the Mishnah, which became the core of the Talmud. Further, the Talmud, and not the Tanakh, is the basis of traditional Jewish religious practice. I strongly suspect (though I don't know for a fact) that Orthodox rabbis would deride any dispute over whether the Tanakh or the Talmud is "more important" as silly and empty. The main difference between the two as far as divine origins are concerned is just that one of them got written down earlier.

In any case, I don't think that this affects Skeptic's point, which was about what Jew-haters believe about Jewish scripture rather than about Jewish scripture itself.

[Darat]

Quick question - who do I ask about getting an overdraft?

[LibraryLady]

Quick question - who do I ask about getting an overdraft?

Put on an extra sweater.

[Darat]

How did you know I am wearing a sweater!? :eek::eek:

[Chaos]

How did you know I am wearing a sweater!? :eek::eek:

THEY know everything.

[grmcdorman]

THEY know everything.Especially when THEY are Joos and librarians. :D

[Roadtoad]

You know, I've been trying to come up with a cogent, rational response to this, and I hate to say it, but I got nothin'.

Rachel, when you come here, spewing your verbal terrorism, because that's what it is, you demonstrate one of the reasons why this board exists. Further, you demonstrate why people who come here to counter your verbal vomit are to be respected.

First of all, as a suggestion, quit listening to that pseudo-intellectual embarrassment, Alex Jones, and all of his ilk. At no point has there been any contact between Mr. J, and anything that even resembles a fact.

Secondly, as someone who at one point considered converting to Judaism, I find your declarations offensive, false, and baseless. I have generally found that Jews demand value in their dealings, regardless of their nature, which means that lying, as you claim, simply isn't part of the equation. Quite the opposite; if I want the truth, I usually look to Jewish friends who will not only give it to me straight, but usually a little straighter than I want. Painful as hell, but I'll tell you this: After that, if I continue to behave like a fool, it's on me, not them.

Frankly, if you'd actually read any of what the Jews consider sacred, you'd have learned that the one thing the God of Israel and the Jews themselves demand of Jews, is that they possess a high degree of integrity. Trust me on that one. If you're going to state that you are one of the Chosen, you had damned well better act like it.

Another point: Considering the number of Jews who post here, what did you think you'd accomplish? Are you another Kurious Kathy type, simply here to earn your martyr points among your friends? Sorry, that's not going to fly. If you haven't learned anything else from MaGZ's example, learn this: If you don't have the facts, it might do you well to SHUT UP.

Facts. As in, "Based upon evidence." As in, "Minimal bias." As in, "Provably True." You might want to think about what that means.

I would also suggest that you read up on the kind of disasters your thinking has led us to, and I would insist that you go well beyond The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (great book, by the way). You might want to read up on the Pogroms of Eastern Europe, as well as the Inquisition and abuse of the Jews by Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain, through Torquemada. You might want to read up on what Antisemitism is about, because the kind of filth you're dumping here has long been dis-proven among civilized people.

Truthfully, the only thing which really separates you from hate groups like Hezbollah and their ilk is real estate and an AK-47. It's the kind of thinking that turned one of the most civilized nations ever to grace the Earth into a cesspit of bigotry and moral cowardice, (and it is further evidence of the Character of the German People that they're facing up to this, not merely in spite of the difficulty, but because of it.) When I say it is terrorism, it is because terrorism begins with the mind, and spreads from there. It is diseased thinking, and demonstrates not only moral and intellectual laziness, but failure to recognize the value of yourself, and the treasure you are and should be to a society. If you have to degrade and destroy others to make yourself look good enough, it either means you have nothing to offer, or you've bought into the lie that you have nothing to offer.

Frankly, that you would choose such a path is distressing, but not surprising. You are not the first to follow that road to Oblivion; you won't be the last. But you damned well ought to know you didn't have to take it.

And as someone who aspires to be a civilized man, let me state that I object to this kind of lawlessness. Part of what makes us Human is our desire to do what is best, not merely what is good enough. As I watch judges giving thugs and brutes a pass because of their "culture," or because they are simply (willfully) ignorant, I cringe, because this takes place under the guise of encouraging people to become civilized.

It does not. It simply means there are no immediate consequences for barbarity.

It's city officials allowing rioting, or people minimizing the penalty for brutality because we're supposed to be tolerant. They just don't know any better.

It's the kind of racist bleat that we get from closet White Supremacists when they ramble on about "Black on Black Violence." It's a lie. There is simply violence, and it is not acceptable. And if you ask people of African ancestry in this country, they will tell you it is not acceptable, and they demonstrate it with the harsh sentences they hand down when they sit on juries in this country.

Your intellectual violence is not acceptable, regardless of the target, regardless of your "reason." You are degrading my friends, and I do not accept that. That you try to cover your actions in the name of "Freedom of Speech" demonstrates that you have no clue what that means, that it requires recognition of the responsibilities that go with that liberty, and that it mandates a citizen establish a recognition of what it takes to be a civilized human being. You are, in fact, mocking the very idea with your hateful and destructive verbiage. Not cool.

Please, take it elsewhere. I'm sure you'll find people who think as you do, who believe that there is no evil so great that the Jews haven't authored it. The rest of us will remain steadfast in the factual, provable, evidential reality that evil has a long history within the human heart, and it's been there long before the Jews ever showed up on the scene.

And if we need any further evidence, we'll be sure to point to the posts you've made in this thread which demonstrate this, so much so that there is little, if any, doubt.

[Arus808]

From that blog:




*Facepalm*


wait...in Genesis, didn't Noah's ark "land" in the first month of the six hundred and first year?


Yamaboko Junko (or Gion Matsuri) is a month long event in Kyoto Japan, during July.

[grmcdorman]

You know, I've been trying to come up with a cogent, rational response to this, and I hate to say it, but I got nothin'.

Rachel, when you come here, spewing your verbal terrorism, because that's what it is, you demonstrate one of the reasons why this board exists. Further, you demonstrate why people who come here to counter your verbal vomit are to be respected.

[snip...]

Nominated. Very well said, and clearly written. Bravo. :clap:

ETA: If that's "nothin'" I'd like to see what "something" is in your book :D

[Roadtoad]

Rachel? Any response?

[Horatius]

Rachel? Any response?




Of course not.

[Roadtoad]

Of course not.

I'm not surprised, but then, given we're dealing with Moral Cowards, not much would.

[Ladewig]

wait...in Genesis, didn't Noah's ark "land" in the first month of the six hundred and first year?


Yamaboko Junko (or Gion Matsuri) is a month long event in Kyoto Japan, during July.

The official "landing" day is July 17th.

3 and the waters receded from the earth continually. At the end(D) of 150 days the waters had abated, 4 and in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. 5 And the waters continued to abate until the tenth month; in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.
6 At the end of forty days Noah opened the window of the ark that he had made 7and sent forth a raven. It went to and fro until the waters were dried up from the earth. 8Then he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters had subsided from the face of the ground. 9 But the dove found no place to set her foot, and she returned to him to the ark, for the waters were still on the face of the whole earth. So he put out his hand and took her and brought her into the ark with him. 10 He waited another seven days, and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark. 11 And the dove came back to him in the evening, and behold, in her mouth was a freshly plucked olive leaf. So Noah knew that the waters had subsided from the earth. 12 Then he waited another seven days and sent forth the dove, and she did not return to him anymore.

13 In the six hundred and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried from off the earth. And Noah removed the covering of the ark and looked, and behold, the face of the ground was dry. 14 In the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth had dried out.

[jmh423]

All your examples are refuted here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080420184446AAcVGwF) and here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090109011823AAxrtH9) and here (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060709072201AApTcHr) and many other places.

Well you can't get any better refutations than that....Yahoo answers. Case closed!!

But seriously, if you look deeply into the texts and teachings of the three major religions, you will find some extremely ignorant and outrageous material. There are still sects in Christianity that believe you can not be in a state of grace unless you handle snakes and jump around like an imbecile...There are several passages of the Koran and the bible which can be construed by some to encourage murder, torture, wife beating etc....Look at the morons who follow Falwell and Hagee. By the same token, these passages in the Talmud are not known of, much yet followed by the majority of Jews. However, there are some whacky bigots who DO believe the kind of racist supremicist crap that was spewed forth in the Babylonian Talmud.

To pretend that these idiotic passages don't exist, or where taken out of context by "anti-semites" is BS. Anyone who belongs to ANY radical religious or occultic sect that espouses such beliefs should not be allowed to have any involvement in government or public policy, any more than one who belongs to a street gang or the mafia.

[dudalb]

Well you can't get any better refutations than that....Yahoo answers. Case closed!!

But seriously, if you look deeply into the texts and teachings of the three major religions, you will find some extremely ignorant and outrageous material. There are still sects in Christianity that believe you can not be in a state of grace unless you handle snakes and jump around like an imbecile...There are several passages of the Koran and the bible which can be construed by some to encourage murder, torture, wife beating etc....Look at the morons who follow Falwell and Hagee. By the same token, these passages in the Talmud are not known of, much yet followed by the majority of Jews. However, there are some whacky bigots who DO believe the kind of racist supremicist crap that was spewed forth in the Babylonian Talmud.

To pretend that these idiotic passages don't exist, or where taken out of context by "anti-semites" is BS. Anyone who belongs to ANY radical religious or occultic sect that espouses such beliefs should not be allowed to have any involvement in government or public policy, any more than one who belongs to a street gang or the mafia.

Aw, look at that. A Truther coming to defend an Jew Hater. Ain't that cute?

[Horatius]

To pretend that these idiotic passages don't exist, or where taken out of context by "anti-semites" is BS. Anyone who belongs to ANY radical religious or occultic sect that espouses such beliefs should not be allowed to have any involvement in government or public policy, any more than one who belongs to a street gang or the mafia.



So you'll be starting a thread to demand that all the Christians be disallowed from serving in government then?

[Toke]

I am a little ignorant here, is the talmud/tora any less barbaric that the bible or koran?

[Hokulele]

So you'll be starting a thread to demand that all the Christians be disallowed from serving in government then?


Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul!

Oh wait, he's a Baptist. Never mind.

[JimBenArm]

Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul!

Oh wait, he's a Baptist. Never mind.
How about RuPaul? I don't think he's Jewish or Christian.

[Sunray Breaker]

How about RuPaul? I don't think he's Jewish or Christian.

Yeah...but he's part of the liberal, leftist, transgenda.

[Jono]

The talmud is the reason for the jewish problem. The talmud is the most EVIL, RACIST book written by jewish men.


When we're digging through the archaic texts of semitic religions (christianity, islam, judaism) then we will find a whole heep of stuff that's going to be all from interesting ranging to distasteful and repugnant, let alone xenophobic et al judging by contemporary 'western' norms of morals.


The talmud reviles all non-jews.


I've written a lot on this topic specifically and that's not a correct nor workable statement. The Talmud is very plethoric, and largely it ascribes to the fundamental differentiation between Jews and Gentiles, generally with the sentiment that the former is where actual righteousness is held and also given hence forth.

If you wish to critique a given, volumnous text and its convergent outlook on something specific, then by all means try to be specific in turn with your critique instead of pointing to pop-Pronaitis'esque sites.


The talmud is considered the holiest book to jews.


The holiest? Hmm not exactly.


Every non-jew should be concerned and look into this problem. Research the word "talmud" and you will see...

Research the word "talmud"?!? Hold your horses theologists and researchers across the globe, save yourself years of study and bookworming, take Rachel's advice and simply google the word "talmud".
:rolleyes:

[beachnut]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

The question is why? Yes why?
Why do neoNAZIs make dirt dumb posts.

[dudalb]

I am a little ignorant here, is the talmud/tora any less barbaric that the bible or koran?

Uh, the Torah is the first five books of the Old Testament. The Talmud is basically a commentary upon them.
And the Talmud has never had the force of scripture in the Jewish community..although is has been very influential.
Anyway, a lot of the quotes from the Talmud used by the Anti semites are torn out of context and badly distorted.

[Toke]

Uh, the Torah is the first five books of the Old Testament. The Talmud is basically a commentary upon them.
And the Talmud has never had the force of scripture in the Jewish community..although is has been very influential.
Anyway, a lot of the quotes from the Talmud used by the Anti semites are torn out of context and badly distorted.

So the text itself is no more evil than the others, it is just a matter of how the faithful read it.
Thanks.

[marksman]

To pretend that these idiotic passages don't exist, or where taken out of context by "anti-semites" is BS.
No, it's not. The specific passages rachelslight cribbed from an antisemitic website are fabrications and/or mistranslations.

I am not saying there are no offensive passages in the Torah or the Talmud. But the ones that rachelslight identified are not those passages.

Actually, it's unlikely that that you would find much in the Talmud, as the Talmud has very little to say about the conduct of Jews towards non-Jews at all. You're better off looking at the passages of the Tanakh (Old Testament) where God exhorts the Israelites to kill all the men, women, children, and livestock of some offending non-Jewish tribe. But since those are passages found in the Christian Bible as well, most American and European antisemites (who also tend to be Christian) shy away from them and instead try to focus on the Talmud, which is not a part of the Christian scripture. Unfortunately for them, the Talmud tends to be a pretty dry legal exegesis with little relevant passages on non-Jews. So instead they just make stuff up.

[Foster Zygote]

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.

I realize that I'm a bit late to this thread, but could you list these Jews who have controlled the United States since 1933?

Or is this like when my grandmother was convinced that her trash cans were being overturned at night not by raccoons, but by the "******-kids" who lived down the street?

[marksman]

Okay. Let's go through the passages rachelslight cited. I checked against this online version of the Talmud (http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm#t06), which seems to be a pretty faithful translation compared to the copy I have at home.

Erubin 21b. This section of the Talmud deals with the observance of the Sabbath. rachelslight claims it tells Jews to follow the Talmud over the Torah, but I can't find anything like that in Erubim. Page 21 specifically deals with how big an opening has to be to be considered a door for purposes of commandments dealing with doors.

Sanhedrin 57a. Rachelslight cites this passage for two statements: 1) that Jews don't have to pay non-jews they hire, and that Jews should not receive the death penalty for murdering non-Jews. But this passage only discusses how a king may adhere to the admonition that a King should not acquire more horses than needed to pull his chariots. How many chariots does a King need? I don't see anything about robbing or killing non-Jews.

Baba Kamma 37b. rachelslight claims this passage authorizes Jews to take non-Jews' money. This passage in fact only discusses the compensation to be given to anybody (Jew or non-Jew) by a man whose animal causes destruction.

Baba Kamma 113a. rachelslight claims this passage authorizes Jews to defraud non-Jews. In fact, it discusses the compensation to be awarded when a pregnant woman is injured.

Now, maybe she miscited the relevant passages. The Talmud is the size of a set of encyclopedias. But you can thumb through the translations of the Talmud yourself using the link provided. I couldn't find anything close to what rachelslight claimed.

But that's no surprise. The list she cribbed from an antisemitic website was created well before the internet existed, when it was exceedingly difficult to debunk claims of what was in it. Thankfully, everyone now has access to the Talmud so we can all see that it doesn't have any of the passages rachelslight has claimed.

[Horatius]

I realize that I'm a bit late to this thread, but could you list these Jews who have controlled the United States since 1933?




Find an online list of Presidents, Senators and the like. Create a little script to process that list by adding "(Jew!)" after each name. There ya go!


What, you weren't actually expecting anything more concrete than that, were you?

[Darat]

That latest President guy - the one with the funny sounding foreign name - he looks very Jewish to me... and the one before that what-was-he-called Thrush or something?Well I'm sure he was speaking Yiddish most of the time or was it gibberish - I know it was one or the other.

[carlitos]

Okay. Let's go through the passages rachelslight cited. I checked against this online version of the Talmud (http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm#t06), which seems to be a pretty faithful translation compared to the copy I have at home

.......

But that's no surprise. The list she cribbed from an antisemitic website was created well before the internet existed, when it was exceedingly difficult to debunk claims of what was in it. Thankfully, everyone now has access to the Talmud so we can all see that it doesn't have any of the passages rachelslight has claimed.
Thanks for posting this.

[Foster Zygote]

Okay. Let's go through the passages rachelslight cited...

I'm sure rachelslight will see the error and abandon all further antisemitic claims regarding the content of the Talmud.

[cwalner]

Find an online list of Presidents, Senators and the like. Create a little script to process that list by adding "(Jew!)" after each name. There ya go!?

C'mon Jews don't generally have 'Jew' at the end of thier name. I think the following list of powerful Americans since WWII would be more like the process you were going for.

Harold Trumanstein
Dwight David Eisenhower (Hey, its German so it sounds Jewish enough already)
Lyndon B Ivanovich
Henry Kissinger (ok, he really is a Jew)
Gerry Fordberg
Chaim Carterfeld
Ronald Reaganski
George H W Goldbusch
William Clintonfarb
George W Goldbusch
Baruch Hussein Obama (both Jewish and Arab - oooh Scary)

See the only president since WWII that wasn't Jewish was Nixon, but we all know Kissinger really ran the country then.

[Erigena]

That doesn't sound like the Jews MaGZ knows.
MaGZ doesn't know any Jews that's why it's so easy for him or her to make narrow minded generalizations.

[Kritikos]

That latest President guy - the one with the funny sounding foreign name - he looks very Jewish to me... and the one before that what-was-he-called Thrush or something?Well I'm sure he was speaking Yiddish most of the time or was it gibberish - I know it was one or the other.

The following story provides indisputable proof that GWB is not Jewish.

When George W. Bush was president, he received reports of American intelligence being leaked to Israel. He calls a meeting to discuss the problem. "How are the Israelis finding out about these things?", he asks.

One of his advisors replies, "Well, sir, I think the information is being leaked through the chasidic Jews in Brooklyn. You see, whenever two chasids meet, they say, 'Nu, vos iz neies?', and that's how they pass information on."

The president says, "I've got to find out for myself if this is true."

So he gets fitted with a black hat, a black frock coat, a false beard, a wig with curled sidelocks, and the whole bit. He gets himself smuggled out of the White House in a delivery van that drives into Maryland, then transferred to a truck that takes him to New Jersey, then transferred to a car that takes him into Manhattan, where he takes the subway train to Williamsburg. As he comes out of the station he sees an old man in chasidic garb standing by a bus stop.

We walks casually up to the guy and says to him, "Nu, vos iz neies?"

The old man leans toward him and says confidentially, "Have you heard, that puts Bush is in Brooklyn?"

[Sunray Breaker]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

Why do we always have racist A-Holes pushing antisemitic gibberish online?

[Chaos]

Why do we always have racist A-Holes pushing antisemitic gibberish online?

Because that´s the only thing racist a-holes are good for?

[beachnut]

That latest President guy - the one with the funny sounding foreign name - he looks very Jewish to me... and the one before that what-was-he-called Thrush or something?Well I'm sure he was speaking Yiddish most of the time or was it gibberish - I know it was one or the other.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/Choice.jpg
They are all over, taking over everything. Why? Because they can. Poor MaGZ, he see Jews, he sees them everywhere.

[Rogue1stclass]

Yeah, right.

Like the same group of people wrote the 10 Commandments, killed Jesus, controls the American economy, faked the Holocaust, and invented observational humor...

Face it, there's no such thing as Jews.

[rachelslight]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.

[marksman]

I'm sure rachelslight will see the error and abandon all further antisemitic claims regarding the content of the Talmud.

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.

Oh, well. Another dream dashed.

[Toke]

Oh, well. Another dream dashed.
Yes, and we were all so optimistic.

[cwalner]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.

Yes, because you are such a shining example of moral non-racist behaviour.

Can sombody post one of those neat Irony-meter icons. I don't have access to one and this situation needs one desperately

[Ohnoes]

Hey everyone I'm in such a great mood today! I haven't been on the forum in such a long time and I'm hoping to have great and rational conversations today!

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.


Well **** :(

[Horatius]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me:



Okay, let's clarify things here. When you refer to "all the jews trying desperately to choke" you, are you referring to some subset of the Jewish people, who just happen to by trying (desperately! no less) to choke you, or is it your intention to assert that literally all members of the Jewish People are trying to choke you?


Because if it's the latter, that must be one heck of a line up.

[carlitos]

Can sombody post one of those neat Irony-meter icons. I don't have access to one and this situation needs one desperately
You also may enjoy this (http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rachel):
The girl's name Rachel \r(a)-chel\ is pronounced RAY-chel. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "ewe, female sheep". Biblical: Jacob's wife, described as being "beautiful in form and countenance"

:i: :i: :i:

[cwalner]

Okay, let's clarify things here. When you refer to "all the jews trying desperately to choke" you, are you referring to some subset of the Jewish people, who just happen to by trying (desperately! no less) to choke you, or is it your intention to assert that literally all members of the Jewish People are trying to choke you?


Because if it's the latter, that must be one heck of a line up.

To be fair, it is very likely that every Jew that Rachel has met has either desperately tried to choke her, or desperately suppressed the urge to do just that.

One must wonder why that would be the case.

[Foster Zygote]

Oh, well. Another dream dashed.

We could always start a pool regarding how long it takes rachelslight to get smote by the ban-hammer.

[marksman]

Oh, that's not nearly as quixotic.

[JimBenArm]

My Darling Rachel:
I'm so sorry to disappoint you. I know that my being circumcised confused you, but I am not Jewish in any form. I have never set foot in a synagogue, know nothing of the Torah or Talmud, never worn a yarmulke, and love to eat cooked piggie, especially bacon.

I am open to conversion, however, since it's apparent they are going to eventually win in this take-over thing. I mean, if all the pogroms and the Holocaust didn't stop them, what can? We're doomed! So, you know the old saying. If you can't beat them, join them!

I don't have to be observant, do I? I do love my bacon!

[cwalner]

I don't have to be observant, do I? I do love my bacon!

Considering that when younger, I used to pride myself on having a Bacon Cheeseburger at least once during every Passover and nothing I will ever do will change Rachel's mind about my being Jewish, I'm sure we can make room for you.

[LostAngeles]

Okay, let's clarify things here. When you refer to "all the jews trying desperately to choke" you, are you referring to some subset of the Jewish people, who just happen to by trying (desperately! no less) to choke you, or is it your intention to assert that literally all members of the Jewish People are trying to choke you?


Because if it's the latter, that must be one heck of a line up.

That, or Henry Rollins is in awe of her neck.

You also may enjoy this (http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rachel):


The girl's name Rachel \r(a)-chel\ is pronounced RAY-chel. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "ewe, female sheep". Biblical: Jacob's wife, described as being "beautiful in form and countenance"

:i: :i: :i:

I feel like this explains so much about the atheists on this forum...:goat

[Horatius]

You also may enjoy this (http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rachel):

The girl's name Rachel \r(a)-chel\ is pronounced RAY-chel. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "ewe, female sheep". Biblical: Jacob's wife, described as being "beautiful in form and countenance"




...and in another amazing coincidence, every time I read one of her posts, I go "ewwwwww...."

[Roadtoad]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.

No one wants to choke you, Rachel. Your continued spewing of your own racist, bigoted, hateful, cowardly, deceptive, ill-informed, despicable, nasty, vile, cowardly, bilious, corrupt, and ignorant views not only reveal the kind of filth the rest of us have to put up with from folks like you, but it serves to demonstrate why this board exists.

As to your final line: Good luck with that. If anyone needs to learn how to behave, it's goyim like us.

[Hokulele]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me:


You aren't choking from Jewish oppression, but on the bile of your hatred. Let it go and you may find yourself breathing easier.

[Paulhoff]

sx6dxrhqPZY

Paul

:) :) :)

[Paulhoff]

Also, since they run the country, so say some, how did this happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

Paul

:) :) :)

[Thunder]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me: you people will never achieve your ****** and racist talmudic goals. Non-jews will teach you how to behave.

lolololol!!!

wow.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?


They're also "rich, white males". If you haven't noticed, that seems to be a far more common attribute amongst The Elite™. It's kind of a tradition here in the U.S..

[gtc]

To all the jews trying desperately to choke me:

Everything always ends up being about sex, doesn't it?

[Roadtoad]

Everything always ends up being about sex, doesn't it?

Too bad that her racism guarantees she ain't gettin' any.

[Chaos]

Too bad that her racism guarantees she ain't gettin' any.

She should check out some of those twoofers who are never getting any, either. They must by now be horny enough that even she would seem attractive.

[Thunder]

Everything always ends up being about sex, doesn't it?

dude...that is pretty clever!!!

[MaGZ]

My Darling Rachel:
I'm so sorry to disappoint you. I know that my being circumcised confused you, but I am not Jewish in any form. I have never set foot in a synagogue, know nothing of the Torah or Talmud, never worn a yarmulke, and love to eat cooked piggie, especially bacon.

I am open to conversion, however, since it's apparent they are going to eventually win in this take-over thing. I mean, if all the pogroms and the Holocaust didn't stop them, what can? We're doomed! So, you know the old saying. If you can't beat them, join them!

I don't have to be observant, do I? I do love my bacon!

Do you mean the Jewish take-over of America or the Middle East?

[JimBenArm]

Do you mean the Jewish take-over of America or the Middle East?
No, just you.

[Paulhoff]

Do you mean the Jewish take-over of America or the Middle East?
:dl: raised to the power of:dl:

Paul

:) :) :)

[Thunder]

Do you mean the Jewish take-over of America or the Middle East?

i take it you do not like Jews. and I assume it is for a less than rational reason.

[NoZed Avenger]

No one wants to choke you, Rachel.

Hey, now.

Don't speak for everyone there.

[Sunray Breaker]

Man...These jew haters are exploding all over the internet. It's like some NOT-zi Sh*tler bomb went off and there's anti-semite shrapnel all over the place!!! I'm arguing with a nother jew hater on youtube right now. These guys are rediculous!!!

[dudalb]

I don't know about the Internet as a whole, but the number here at JREF has skyrocketed in the past few months.

[carlitos]

Well duh, look at the economy. It's because they ruined it.