Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

[MaGZ]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

[tomwaits]

The reason? You guessed it...


































http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/21412491718854ca73.jpg

[Hokulele]

The question is why?


No one else wants to.

[calebprime]

Yay, a post where nothing I can say will be as stupid as the OP!

Poopy Diip-ah? (Boston accent)

Poopy Diiip-ah?

Poopy Poopy?


my armpit smells......weird. good, but weird.

[Jeff Corey]

You've been reading this book again, haven't you. http://ddickerson.igc.org/protocols.html

[Magyar]

well someone just HAS to keep whitey down, might as well be dem joos

[Darat]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

..snip...

We don't.

[ravdin]

Why are rednecks from Texas always starting wars? Damn Texans- always screwing everything up.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Why are rednecks from Texas always starting wars? Damn Texans- always screwing everything up.
The Jews pay us to do it.

[Hokulele]

The Jews pay us to do it.


That doesn't sound like the Jews MaGZ knows.

[calebprime]

Why is it that every time my wife wants me to vacuum, she gives me the lecture about being thorough?

A guy wif a vaccum cleaner canna only be so nimble.

x=area to be covered, in square feet

y/t= rate at which vacuuming can work, where t=researchable time

m=toys and other weird things that you have to avoid when vacuuming.


Can someone help me with this simple math?

[Marquis de Carabas]

That doesn't sound like the Jews MaGZ knows.
They have to do something with the money they make plundering the rest of the country's economy, right?

[timhau]

Jews, yadda yadda yadda, Zionism, yadda yadda, Jewish-owned media, yadda yadda. So-called Holocaust, yadda yadda, not six million, yadda yadda, banks run by Jews. Blah blah, Israel, yadda yadda, Metapedia link.

Sorry. I'm just practicing MaGZspeak. The forum needs a reserve source of :rule10 if something happens to the original.

[RandFan]

Judeophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism) alive and well at JREF.

[Wolfman]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy? I don't think you understand the way that economics work, MaGZ. You see, at least in a market-based economy like that in the U.S., one needs to encourage an environment of active consumerism. You need consumers to spend money, in order to maintain and grow the economy.

Now, when Jews are running, they need to buy running shoes. And sweat bands. And shorts, and shirts, and sports bras, and heart rate monitors, and all sorts of other stuff. And when they buy that stuff, they are helping the economy, not hurting it.

If someone were to accuse the Jews of not running, and thereby ruining the American economy, I might take this whole Jewish Conspiracy thing more seriously.

[Darat]

Folks whilst the thread's title may seem to indicate that this is intended to be a humorous thread it is in fact a "Conspiracy Theory" section thread so either respond to the conspiracy theory of the thread title and opening post or don't respond.

[Thunder]

Um....the Jews who worked for Clinton ruined our economy? We had a budget surplus after Clinton....remember? It seems like the ones who always end up screwing up our economy are white protestant republicans. maybe we should keep them from powerful positions.

[LibraryLady]

Thanks, MaGZ, for giving me an opportunity to do this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4136712#post4136712).

ETA: By the way you only have one day left to vote for me in the Language Awards (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127774).

[Darat]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

Any evidence of this "ruining"?

[calebprime]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?


Often, seemingly iron-clad logic can lead to subtle errors when the premises are flawed.

IMO:

1) The economy has been better, but it's not ruined.
2) The economy is not being run by Jews.
3) Always is a long, long time.
4) The Federal Reserve Bank has limited powers, as does the Secretary of the Treasury. Unlike Santa Claus, the Secretary can't just make anything happen.
5) Obama is, no doubt, trying to find a competent, experienced, politically compatible, perhaps even politically expedient person to be Secretary.

Why is that?

[gdnp]

Perhaps you could give us some clarification, MaGZ. At least since World War II, the US economy has been the most successful in the world. That's a stretch of about 60 years. Is this because the Jews were running it, despite the Jews running it, or unrelated to any supposed control by the Jews? In other words, are the Jews responsible for the successes as well, or just the failures?

Is it just the Jews, or do others also bear responsibility. Henry Paulson, for example, was raised as a Christian Scientist. Is he not part of the problem, or did he convert to Judaism?

Since overall the US economy has done pretty well, could you give us some concrete examples where Jewish policies have hurt the economy?

[Darat]

I've also used this site to look at the USA in comparison to three other countries, http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=65&v=67&v=71&c=ag&c=sa&c=tc&c=us&l=en - if it is "the Jews" that are "ruining" the USA economy they should stop whatever it is they are doing since they seem to be doing the opposite to ruining!

[sleeplessdwarf]

Nice link Darat.

[Roadtoad]

I've also used this site to look at the USA in comparison to three other countries, http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=65&v=67&v=71&c=ag&c=sa&c=tc&c=us&l=en - if it is "the Jews" that are "ruining" the USA economy they should stop whatever it is they are doing since they seem to be doing the opposite to ruining!

I was going to say: seems to me the economy has been ruined far worse by a lot of White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Seems to me since that's the case, it couldn't hurt to let the Jews take it over. They might actually be doing the economy some good.

[Wolfman]

I was going to say: seems to me the economy has been ruined far worse by a lot of White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Seems to me since that's the case, it couldn't hurt to let the Jews take it over. They might actually be doing the economy some good.
I think you're missing the point here.

If they're good with money, they must be Jews. Ipso facto.

If the economy is doing well, it is because the Jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to amass greater personal power and influence. If the economy is doing poorly, it is because the Jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to destroy any/all opposition.

Your whole "white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant" thing is an obvious red herring.

[LibraryLady]

I think you're missing the point here.

If they're good with money, they must be Jews. Ipso facto.

If the economy is doing well, it is because the Jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to amass greater personal power and influence. If the economy is doing poorly, it is because the Jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to destroy any/all opposition.

Your whole "white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant" thing is an obvious red herring.

No, you're the one who has it wrong. If they are Jews, they are good with money.

[maxfrost]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

"Seems" is a wussy word. Either we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and as Secretary of the Treasury, or we have not. If the former, please provide evidence. It really can't be that difficult to find if it exists.

[Roadtoad]

MaGZ doesn't need proof. He has THE TRUTH!

Never mind he has no EVIDENCE of anything, never mind that this is another attempt by him to spread his racism and hate. Frankly, I see no evidence that Jews (or anyone else) would benefit by decimating the American economy. Quite the opposite, in fact. If anything, I would think Jews, (and everyone else), would be pressing to see the economy improve, unless you're that truly scary Jew, George W. Bush.

Oh, wait. He's not Jewish, is he?

[LibraryLady]

MaGZ doesn't need proof. He has THE TRUTH!

Never mind he has no EVIDENCE of anything, never mind that this is another attempt by him to spread his racism and hate. Frankly, I see no evidence that Jews (or anyone else) would benefit by decimating the American economy. Quite the opposite, in fact. If anything, I would think Jews, (and everyone else), would be pressing to see the economy improve, unless you're that truly scary Jew, George W. Bush.

Oh, wait. He's not Jewish, is he?

I sincerely hope not.

[calebprime]

That's funny.

[Wolfman]

I sincerely hope not.
Little known fact...

...George's ancestors were originally named "Buschenheimer"; it was changed to Bush as part of the Evil Zionist Conspiracy.

[JihadJane]

We had a budget surplus after Clinton....remember?

Maybe a bubble surplus would be a more accurate term.

Often, seemingly iron-clad logic can lead to subtle errors when the premises are flawed.

IMO:

1) The economy has been better, but it's not ruined.
...

The US is bankrupt with more debt than can ever be payed back. So far, the answer has been to create yet more debt. Perhaps the delusion that we can live off interest to be paid back by infinite growth has reached its logical conclusion and the pyramid scheme is collapsing. Time will tell. Things look very bad!

I don't think this has anything to do with Jewishness, btw, though there are unsavoury historical reasons why Jews engaged "in the one business where Christian laws actually discriminated in their favour, and became identified with the hated trade of moneylending." *[12]

In countries where other professions were open to them, such as Muslim Spain and the Ottoman empire, one finds more Jewish blacksmiths than Jewish money lenders. The high tide of Jewish usury was before the fifteenth century; as cities grew in power and affluence, the Jews were squeezed out from money lending with the development of banking." *[13]

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Maybe a bubble surplus would be a more accurate term.



The US is bankrupt with more debt than can ever be payed back. So far, the answer has been to create yet more debt.

It's not an answer it's a necessity. If the creation of money is done by debt which means interest is added to the creation of money then you've created a situation where there is always more money to be paid back than there is in existence.

You can either make up this shortfall with foreign sales or investments ( from a foreign source ) or you have to create more money. which means ore debt and more interest.

This requires an infinitely expanding economy and if the economy can't keep up then there's inflation.




I don't think this has anything to do with Jewishness, btw,

no it's not... all being discussed in the Fractional Reserve thread anyway. :)


though there are unsavoury historical reasons why Jews engaged "in the one business where Christian laws actually discriminated in their favour, and became identified with the hated trade of moneylending." *[12]

In countries where other professions were open to them, such as Muslim Spain and the Ottoman empire, one finds more Jewish blacksmiths than Jewish money lenders. The high tide of Jewish usury was before the fifteenth century; as cities grew in power and affluence, the Jews were squeezed out from money lending with the development of banking." *[13]

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury


Nothing wrong with money lending. Nothing wrong with charging interest for it either. What's wrong is lending out money you don't have by creating it out of nothing and adding interest on it. Which is how the current system works and why it is so bad.

[LibraryLady]

Has MaGZ replied to any of these comments? :confused:

[Wolfman]

Has MaGZ replied to any of these comments? :confused:
They are reasonable, logical, and more than adequately demonstrate the complete lack of legitimacy of the claim made in the OP.

So I'm guessing we shouldn't expect much of a reply.

[LibraryLady]

How very odd.

[Wolfman]

I'm actually a little afraid about my "Buschenheimer" comment above. I can just see what's gonna' happen. The good ol' Google-bots are gonna' index this thread. When people are looking for information on The Evil Zionist Conspiracy, this thread will pop up among the results. Some intellectually-challenged and overly-gullible individual (which describes an awful lot of people who will be doing that particular search) will read my post, and accept it as being true.

Next thing ya' know, there's gonna' be places all over the net stating authoritatively that Bush's real name is Buschenheimer.

[LibraryLady]

I'm actually a little afraid about my "Buschenheimer" comment above. I can just see what's gonna' happen. The good ol' Google-bots are gonna' index this thread. When people are looking for information on The Evil Zionist Conspiracy, this thread will pop up among the results. Some intellectually-challenged and overly-gullible individual (which describes an awful lot of people who will be doing that particular search) will read my post, and accept it as being true.

Next thing ya' know, there's gonna' be places all over the net stating authoritatively that Bush's real name is Buschenheimer.

Well, it's on the Internet, so it must be true!

[Alareth]

Bush is a secret Jew just like Obama is a secret Muslim.

[1337m4n]

Grrr! Magz ANGRY! Magz no like Jews! Magz SMASH!

[sackett]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

Because we are Jews and we are strong, strong, STRONG! and it amuses us to toy with gentile dogs!

Soon we may turn our attention to the goyim called neo-nazis. Too long have they enjoyed the "right" to impugn the Chosen People. How deliciously they will jibber and howl, running in circles colliding with each other, as they finally learn who controls their miserable fate!

Shema Yisroel! Know your doom, pig-eaters!

[Thunder]

Grrr! Magz ANGRY! Magz no like Jews! Magz SMASH!

Mongo jealous of Jewz!! Jewz make Mongo feel insecure!!

Mongo needs therapy and Zoloft. =(

[Thunder]

Bush is a secret Jew just like Obama is a secret Muslim.

No...Obama is the dude playing the Jude pretending to be a non-Jude!!!

=)

[MaGZ]

Any evidence of this "ruining"?

The current economic meltdown we have now.

This thread should be moved back to politics. It is a fact Jews have recently been the head of the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department and now Obama is on the verge of appointing another Jew to Treasury.

[Fiona]

I heard it was Americans doing all these jobs. I heard they were all men. I heard they were all over 40. I heard they were all able-bodied

[MaGZ]

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve
Ben Shalom Bernanke (February 1, 2006 - present)
Alan Greenspan (August 11, 1987 – January 31, 2006)
Paul Adolph Volker (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987)
George William Miller (March 8, 1978 - August 6, 1979)
Arthur Frank Burns (1970- 1978)

Secretaries of the Treasury
Henry Merritt "Hank" Paulson Jr. (July 3, 2006 - present)
John William Snow (February 3, 2003- June 28, 2006)
Paul Henry O'Neill (January 20, 2001 – December 31, 2002)
Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers ( July 2, 1999 - January 20, 2001)
Robert Edward Rubin (January 11, 1995 - July 2, 1999)

With the exceptions of Snow and O’Neill, all of the above are Jews.

[Hokulele]

Er, I had always heard that Paulson was a Christian Scientist.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/01/12/357911/index.htm

[MaGZ]

Er, I had always heard that Paulson was a Christian Scientist.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/01/12/357911/index.htm

I bet you dollars to bagels if you dig deep enough you will discover his family is Jewish.

[Hokulele]

I bet you dollars to bagels if you dig deep enough you will discover his family is Jewish.


Heck, I will bet you dollars to knish that if you dig deep enough, you will discover that your family is Jewish.

[MaGZ]

Heck, I will bet you dollars to knish that if you dig deep enough, you will discover that your family is Jewish.

Noah and his family being Jewish?
I see your point.

[Hokulele]

Noah and his family being Jewish?
I see your point.


Well yeah, that is my point. Kevin Bacon proved that you can find connections to pretty much anyone if you are willing to work at it.

[LibraryLady]

MaGZ, you're not really adding to the argument here. Can you cite specific examples of how and why Jewish people have set out to ruin the American economy? Not generalizations, mind you. I want names, facts, figures, and dates.

Thank you.

[maxfrost]

Noah wasn't Jewish. Abraham was the first Jew. Noah precedes Abraham.

[1337m4n]

The current economic meltdown we have now.


Prove that it is the fault of Jews and Jews alone.

This thread should be moved back to politics. It is a fact Jews have recently been the head of the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department and now Obama is on the verge of appointing another Jew to Treasury.

And what does their Jewishness have to do with "ruining" the American economy?

The president during the current economic meltdown was white. Does that mean white people are bad for the economy?

[1337m4n]

i bet you dollars to bagels if you dig deep enough you will discover his family is jewish.

Why

does

that

make

a

difference?

[gdnp]

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve
Ben Shalom Bernanke (February 1, 2006 - present)
Alan Greenspan (August 11, 1987 – January 31, 2006)
Paul Adolph Volker (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987)
George William Miller (March 8, 1978 - August 6, 1979)
Arthur Frank Burns (1970- 1978)

Secretaries of the Treasury
Henry Merritt "Hank" Paulson Jr. (July 3, 2006 - present)
John William Snow (February 3, 2003- June 28, 2006)
Paul Henry O'Neill (January 20, 2001 – December 31, 2002)
Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers ( July 2, 1999 - January 20, 2001)
Robert Edward Rubin (January 11, 1995 - July 2, 1999)

With the exceptions of Snow and O’Neill, all of the above are Jews.

Well, MaGZ, you seem to have a point. Even counting Paulson as a Christian Scientist, 7 of the last 10 treasury secretaries and Fed chairmen have been Jews. Certainly a much higher percentage than their percentage of the population as a whole. Why do you think that is?

Is it perhaps because Jews are heavily represented among the heads of wall street financial firms, from which the Fed chairmen and Treasury secretaries are recruited? And why might that be? You tell us.

As to destroying the economy, as I and others have pointed out, the American economy, although in trouble now, seems to have outperformed much of the rest of the world during the time when Jews were at the helm. Do they get credit for that?

Finally, the Fed is relatively independent, but is appointed by the president. The Treasury secretary answers directly to the president. We have yet to elect our first Jewish president. So it would seem that directly or indirectly the Jews in question have all answered to protestant males. Should we not therefore place the blame on Protestants?

[gdnp]

I do find it interesting that the thread has now gone to 75 posts and no one has addressed the premise of the OP, which seems to be indisputable (if overstated): The last 5 Fed chairmen, dating back 38 years, have been Jewish, as have 2 of the last 5 Treasury secretaries. That's 7 of 10 from a group that makes up between 1.4 and 2.1 percent of the US population, if you believe the numbers in Wikipedia. Clearly, this is not a random statistical anomaly. Jews make up a larger percentage of bankers and business school graduates, but not 70%.

All part of some worldwide Jewish conspiracy? I don't think so. If so, they forgot to tell Dubya. None of his 3 Treasury secretaries was Jewish. Perhaps this is the reason that the economy is failing...

[SimonD]

I do find it interesting that the thread has now gone to 75 posts and no one has addressed the premise of the OP, which seems to be indisputable (if overstated): The last 5 Fed chairmen, dating back 38 years, have been Jewish, as have 2 of the last 5 Treasury secretaries. That's 7 of 10 from a group that makes up between 1.4 and 2.1 percent of the US population, if you believe the numbers in Wikipedia. Clearly, this is not a random statistical anomaly. Jews make up a larger percentage of bankers and business school graduates, but not 70%.

What is the total since the States came into being? If I flip a coin 200 times and say. 38 of the last 40 coin tosses have been heads, so heads is the most popular throw without taking into account the last 160 it doesn't mean much

[gdnp]

What is the total since the States came into being? If I flip a coin 200 times and say. 38 of the last 40 coin tosses have been heads, so heads is the most popular throw without taking into account the last 160 it doesn't mean much

Assuming that Jews make up 2% of the population, the chance that 5 consecutive Fed chairmen will be Jews, by chance alone, is 312,500,000 to 1. I do not know how many Fed chairmen there have been, or what religion the rest were. But there have not been 300 million, that is for sure.

Again, assuming that Jews make up 2% of the population, the chance that one or more of the last 5 Treasury secretaries would be Jewish is only 10%. I can't recall how to calculate the random chance of 2 of 5, but it's probably 1% or less.

As I said, this isn't random.

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Assuming that Jews make up 2% of the population, the chance that 5 consecutive Fed chairmen will be Jews, by chance alone, is 312,500,000 to 1. I do not know how many Fed chairmen there have been, or what religion the rest were. But there have not been 300 million, that is for sure.

Again, assuming that Jews make up 2% of the population, the chance that one or more of the last 5 Treasury secretaries would be Jewish is only 10%. I can't recall how to calculate the random chance of 2 of 5, but it's probably 1% or less.

As I said, this isn't random.

There's a much higher percentage of Jewish people in Hollywood as well. Much higher than the 2%

There's a much higher percentage of Jewish people in the Media.

And I'm sure I saw some figures on the percentage of Jewish university students as being much higher than 2%

Of course it's not by default a bad thing by any means, but the reason for it is intriguing and certainly worthy of study.

[timhau]

Well, MaGZ, you seem to have a point. Even counting Paulson as a Christian Scientist, 7 of the last 10 treasury secretaries and Fed chairmen have been Jews. Certainly a much higher percentage than their percentage of the population as a whole. Why do you think that is?

Is it perhaps because Jews are heavily represented among the heads of wall street financial firms, from which the Fed chairmen and Treasury secretaries are recruited?

... and because he, for some reason, chose to list Fed chairmen from 1970 but used 1995 as a cut-off point for US Treasury Secretaries, so that Bentsen, Brady, Baker, Regan, Miller, Simon, Schulz, connally, Kennedy, and Barr don't unduly inflate the percentage of non-Jews in that list? (Yeah, there was a guy called Blumenthal serving under Carter, but he's the only Jewish Secretary of Treasury from 1970 to 1995.)

[Darat]

Many Rule 11 and Rule 12 breaches moved to AAH. Quite a few Members involved in those breaches are lucky to have avoided not only infractions but also suspensions. If you cannot post on topic and if you cannot post without breaching your Membership Agreement do not post.

[Darat]

I do find it interesting that the thread has now gone to 75 posts and no one has addressed the premise of the OP, which seems to be indisputable (if overstated):

...snip...

Well I did however there are two premises in the opening post's ludicrous anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and neither of them are that the US Treasury Secretaries and Fed Chairmen are Jewish. I suppose that was just tagged on as a red herring. Presumably in the hope that people will latch on to that rather than look at the silliness of the conspiracy theory itself.

This is one conspiracy theory that can be quite easily be dismissed just by looking at the CT itself:

The first premises is:

"... we always have Jews running ........ the American economy...."

The second:

"... we always have Jews ........ ruining the American economy...."

We could tackle this (as I did early on) and show that when the USA economy is viewed over a reasonable timescale can not be described as being "ruined" especially when compared to countries that I think we can safely conclude are not "run by Jews".

Or we can just point out that the anti-semitic conspiracy theory contains a logical contradiction, in other words its premises contradict each other therefore it is just nonsense.

[JoeyDonuts]

Hey MaGZ...

Did you know that Rahm Emmanuel's father was a member of the Irgun? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun)

Here's the thing though.

I can't provide evidence that this has anything at all to do with Mr. Emmanuel's agenda or career path.

No more than you can provide evidence that the economic crisis or any other major tragedy in recorded history was caused by some secret pan-national Jewish cabal. Your pointing out of the fact that high-level bankers are statistically more likely to be Jewish doesn't really prove that they are involved in a conspiracy amongst themselves to manipulate and exploit all of us.

And if a Jewish guy can do a great job of managing my portfolio and assets, then call me a meshugginah and pass the Manischewitz, brother.

[peteweaver]

Its not Jews you want to worry about Magz, its incompetents.
And the bigger the machine, the more there is to go wrong with it. Economic machines have lots and lots of ways of going wrong, and incompetent people will always make mistakes that cause things to go wrong.

Relax and have a pretzel.

[PixyMisa]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?
Tradition!

[timhau]

Its not Jews you want to worry about Magz, its incompetents.
And the bigger the machine, the more there is to go wrong with it. Economic machines have lots and lots of ways of going wrong, and incompetent people will always make mistakes that cause things to go wrong.


Nuu-uh!!! Jews are supremely über-competent. They're kind of funny Untermenschen that way.

[gdnp]

There's a much higher percentage of Jewish people in Hollywood as well. Much higher than the 2%

There's a much higher percentage of Jewish people in the Media.

And I'm sure I saw some figures on the percentage of Jewish university students as being much higher than 2%

Of course it's not by default a bad thing by any means, but the reason for it is intriguing and certainly worthy of study.

This is part of the point I was getting at. This "worldwide Jewish conspiracy" meme did not arise out of nothing. If is certainly BS, but is in part based on the fact that Jews are much more highly represented in places of power and influence (politics, finance, the media, etc) than their numbers would predict.

... and because he, for some reason, chose to list Fed chairmen from 1970 but used 1995 as a cut-off point for US Treasury Secretaries, so that Bentsen, Brady, Baker, Regan, Miller, Simon, Schulz, connally, Kennedy, and Barr don't unduly inflate the percentage of non-Jews in that list? (Yeah, there was a guy called Blumenthal serving under Carter, but he's the only Jewish Secretary of Treasury from 1970 to 1995.)
I thought this was probably the case but was too lazy to research it after midnight. So clearly MaGZ has been cherrypicking his data. Not a big surprise. He has also left out other positions that may have even more influence than the secretary of the treasury, like the council of economic advisors. Or the president, for that matter.

Well I did however there are two premises in the opening post's ludicrous anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and neither of them are that the US Treasury Secretaries and Fed Chairmen are Jewish. I suppose that was just tagged on as a red herring. Presumably in the hope that people will latch on to that rather than look at the silliness of the conspiracy theory itself.

This is one conspiracy theory that can be quite easily be dismissed just by looking at the CT itself:

The first premises is:

"... we always have Jews running ........ the American economy...."

The second:

"... we always have Jews ........ ruining the American economy...."

We could tackle this (as I did early on) and show that when the USA economy is viewed over a reasonable timescale can not be described as being "ruined" especially when compared to countries that I think we can safely conclude are not "run by Jews".

Or we can just point out that the anti-semitic conspiracy theory contains a logical contradiction, in other words its premises contradict each other therefore it is just nonsense.

The logic of the OP is clearly lacking. My first impulse, like most of the other people here, was to dismiss it out of hand. I think it is more useful, however, to pick it apart piece by piece. We have now established that by reasonable criteria over an extended period of time the economy has not been ruined, and that data has been cherry picked and thus overstates the overrepresentation of Jews in positions of power. But they are still overrepresented (in a statistical sense, not in any sort of moral sense). I assume that this is because Jews are also statistically overrepresented in banking and finance, especially at the upper levels. If true, why is this? Again, MaGZ would like to blame it on a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. I think aptitude and interest are more likely; The Jewish kids study while their classmates play football because this is what their parents encourage, and thus they get the spots in the top colleges, they get the spots in the business schools, they get the jobs at the good firms, and they rise to the top because they perform better than their peers. It would be naive to suggest that there is not an element of "old boy network" favoritism, but I think history clearly shows that Jews have been discriminated against in their history far more than they have been favored, and any firm that makes its decisions based on religion rather than merit when their pool of favored applicants only constitutes 2% of the population will not get very far.

[fagin]

Following on from gdnp's argument, growing up in South Africa (so may not be relevant elsewhere) a high proportion of Jewish people were either self employed or owned their own businesses, often in professions - law, medicine, accountancy. Perhaps something to do with persecution, and that this was, in the past, a way to ensure survival.
And they worked bloody hard, which often aids success.

[timhau]

Following on from gdnp's argument, growing up in South Africa (so may not be relevant elsewhere) a high proportion of Jewish people were either self employed or owned their own businesses, often in professions - law, medicine, accountancy. Perhaps something to do with persecution, and that this was, in the past, a way to ensure survival.

Yeah. If you're not allowed to real estate, you'll have to figure out a way to make a living without land to farm.

[Minadin]

I think Theif (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=081108) said it best this week -

"Hey, I'd be as dumb as the rest of you if I didn't take advantage of the rest of you being so dumb".

[Henry Crun]

MaGZ,
I am totally shocked!

In the middle-ages those jews poisened the water, invented the black death and ate our innocent children in their bloody rituals (even children aren´t kosher at all).

Nowadays only fools believe this, of course.
But does that make the whole idea foolish or just small details like HOW they did serve their evil needs against the goyim - which are undoubtable in itself? Of course they have SOME develish plans: They killed christ! They don´t get baptized (and if they get they keep beeing jewish sleeper-agents and are even a bigger menace for society)! They own things! They do things!

The world growed together, putting poison in the village´s water-well wouldn´t be effective anymore to control those nasty goyim (or to kill them or to put them into slavery or whatever these jews have in mind).
So they put poison in our economic system, in our political system and (via
media, press, Yale and Hollywood) in our minds.

Now they use their power to bring the world slowly down. They could do it faster, they controll every gouvernment, the Vatican, they controlled in the cold war both sides completely but they let all this chances for total world domination pass. Maybe they prefer to play with their prey before diner. Yes, that makes sense. They are devils! Don´t forget that because this is the key to understand them!

However, what to DO now?

It is obviously clear that a jew must not
- be any part of the financial system
- be a politician, not even an adviser or party member
- vote
- buy, sell or carry arms
- marry or have any kind of sexual relationship with a goi
- work in the media, spreading filthy lies, preaching foul values
- be a lawyer or take any part in the legal system
- teach at universities
- publish or write books, essays, leaflets intended to be read by goyim, including fictional and non-fictional
- work in a medical profession
- work with children, grown-ups and elderly people
- work in any buisness involving any responsibilty for anything, e.g. construction worker, police-officer, soldier, pilot, clerk, cook, cab driver, dog catcher, housewife...

The list goes on, they can do harm in any position. Don´t forget - they raise their children to hate the non-jew since centuries. Without any exeption. Proofed by the fact that NO ONE of them EVER testemonied against his race and told the whole truth about their plans! They all stick together, they all want the same, they all think in the same way since thousands of years - look how evil they are!

Throwing them out of social life can only be the first step. Imagine the mass of former lawyers, medics, cab drivers. Reduced to workless jews on the streets, begging for loose change (finally!), maybe they even start to smell and are getting a health threat.

You see, the danger is not gone. They haven´t any influence anymore (or so it seems...) but that does not make them harmless at all. They still can steal, kill, rape innocent people and do whatever I can imagine.

The best way to handle this is to put them all together. Maybe we could find an empty city. If we don´t we just could build some camps to concentrate these "people". It would be a start.

After some time maybe we would notice that our problems did not just disappear by that. There is still some evil out there, people are dying and killing, starving and splurging, buying things I don´t think they need, thinking thoughts I would never think, having opinions I could never share.

Why is that?

Two possibilities:
a) Other countries, controlled by jews, are working against us. The poison now comes from abroad.
b) the concentrated jews are still in power, working from their barracks to bring down the nation/the world.

We still underestimated them!
Luckily there is a solution to every problem, and for this problem I think we need a really fine, a final solution, ending this problem once and for all:

We could
a) force the jewish conrolled countries to stop beeing jewish controlled. If they don´t give in we get in and clean the mess by ourselfes.

b) The problem of the concentrated jews, possibly still damaging society, could be solved by simply killing them. Sooner or later they die anyway, why not speed it up a little - saving the world in the end. It would be our duty to free the world from that virus called "jew". It would be bloody and hard, we cannot let one child alive which would still carry the virus, hiding, seeking for revenge.

But we have to put mild feelings aside. It is not a question of will, it is one of need. It wouldn´t be killing exactly, just getting rid of a disease in a way. Decontaminate the planet.
The future will be grateful. Who doubts this world would be a perfect place if the Nazis would have really committed a holocaust and getting it finished worldwide?
It is such a simple idea, I will never understand why Hitler, Himmer and Heydrich never got it...

I know this sound harsh a bit. But it is just a logical thing. Think it through for yourself. Don´t let emotions come into your way - if they weaken you, they may be jewish too.
There is no other way.
IF they are responsible they have to leave. Far, far away. Afterlife would do it.

MaGZ, what do YOU think we should do to stop this danger?
Can we really risk the future of our children by keeping the jews in our society? Keeping these mass-murders, war-mongerers, liers alive?
You know what they did better than most of the poeple here.

WHY tolerate them at all?

Why showing them more mercy than they show to us?
They are responsible for wars, financial crisis, unrest in any part of the world - you know that!
They don´t repect our lifes, why should we have any respect for theirs?

There is no way to tame them or integrate them - one NEVER can trust these people!

MaGZ, help me out!
Can we seperate the evil jews from the harmless ones (if there are any)?
Can we ever trust?
Informing the public about the danger is one thing, and it is such a fine work you do. It is a start.
But a start for what?

Have you any idea what to do next?
How to make sure, really sure, this threat will finally end?

[LibraryLady]

MaGZ, you're not really adding to the argument here. Can you cite specific examples of how and why Jewish people have set out to ruin the American economy? Not generalizations, mind you. I want names, facts, figures, and dates.

Thank you.

Hmmm.... MaGZ never addressed my questions did he. I find this very odd.

[G-K-4]

I'm actually a little afraid about my "Buschenheimer" comment above. I can just see what's gonna' happen.
Consider the fact that this discussion will be one of those links. Your explanation that you invented this idea will be in the mix, and can be pointed out to anyone who wants to make the claim.

And looking up that word in Google today turns up only one mention. It's some kind of German-language discussion of a rock-music festival, but I don't read that language and don't know what it really says.

Maybe this is the beginning of an experiment. We'll come back in a year and see if your new word has gotten any more attention.

[240-185]

<Jews are 3v1l!!!111!!!!!!>
I hope that all your post was ironic.
If not... GTFO?

[1337m4n]

Henry Crun makes a good point.

MaGZ, what is your solution to this alleged "problem"? Because if you don't have a solution to propose, all you're doing is ranting on a soapbox to an audience that doesn't even like you.

Should we amend that part of the Constitution that forbids tests of religion as a requirement for office? Should we run background checks on appointees to see if any of their family have "Zionist" connections? Should Jews have to register on a blacklist? Should we require that any executive who appoints a Jew to any position write a twenty-page essay justifying his decision?

What do you want people to do? The 14th Amendment forbids any "solution" I can think of. What have you got?

[LibraryLady]

He doesn't seem to be replying to specific questions right now. I'm assuming he's off doing research and will get back to us.

[Soapy Sam]

Perhaps there is a shortage of Scots?

[cwalner]

And by the way, have you looked at this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4136712#post4136712)?

See Library Lady

See Library Lady pimp for TLA votes

Pimp, Library Lady, pimp.

[LibraryLady]

See Library Lady

See Library Lady pimp for TLA votes

Pimp, Library Lady, pimp.

Any pimping I'm doing now would be pretty useless, since the award has already gone, justifiably, to Chillzero. However, when people make what I consider to be anti-Semitic posts, I just want to remind them that I, like all Jews, are multidimensional people. :)

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

The current economic meltdown we have now.

I'd hardly consider this recession, no matter how bad it is, a "meltdown". Nor would I imply that Jews have anything to do with it. If you want to blame someone how about the numerous white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who frequently spend $800 billion more than they collectively make in a year? Or maybe the people who got second loans and mortages to refinance their homes expecting that the housing bubble would never burst? Or maybe the investors who lack confidence in the stocks? *GASP* It's a WASP Capitalist conspiracy!

This thread should be moved back to politics. It is a fact Jews have recently been the head of the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department and now Obama is on the verge of appointing another Jew to Treasury.

No it shouldn't; the fact may be that Jews are at the top of the Fed and Treasury Department but you're asserting, in CT fashion, that they are deliberately doing this. Well, actually you would if you would begin debating logically instead of like a gossip.

I bet you dollars to bagels if you dig deep enough you will discover his family is Jewish.

My ex's-former Rabbi never considered me Jewish because my mother wasn't Jewish...am I still in on the conspiracy?

Hmmm.... MaGZ never addressed my questions did he. I find this very odd.

He never answers anything really; even when he does make an attempt at answering questions it's only just long enough to point out who he believes is a Jew and who isn't. I guess he wants us provide reports of ancestry and wear some sort of visible marker denoting that we're Jewish...perhaps on the chest where it's visible, and maybe a star of David with the word "Jew" written on it so no-one gets confused...

[cwalner]

Any pimping I'm doing now would be pretty useless, since the award has already gone, justifiably, to Chillzero. However, when people make what I consider to be anti-Semitic posts, I just want to remind them that I, like all Jews, are multidimensional people. :)

Nonsense!! I, myself, have to fight every day to avoid the urges to eat christian children, make movies that sell the myth of the holocaust, steal palestinian land, simultaneously run the world's capitalist markets while promoting communisn, and vote democrat. Being a Jew, these activities are very hard for me to avoid.

The world is so much easier to cope with when reduced to one, sometimes two, dimensions.

[Furcifer]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?


Reparations?

[LibraryLady]

Hmmm....still no reply from MaGZ. I'm getting concerned.

[MaGZ]

MaGZ,
I am totally shocked!

In the middle-ages those jews poisened the water, invented the black death and ate our innocent children in their bloody rituals (even children aren´t kosher at all).

Nowadays only fools believe this, of course.
But does that make the whole idea foolish or just small details like HOW they did serve their evil needs against the goyim - which are undoubtable in itself? Of course they have SOME develish plans: They killed christ! They don´t get baptized (and if they get they keep beeing jewish sleeper-agents and are even a bigger menace for society)! They own things! They do things!

The world growed together, putting poison in the village´s water-well wouldn´t be effective anymore to control those nasty goyim (or to kill them or to put them into slavery or whatever these jews have in mind).
So they put poison in our economic system, in our political system and (via
media, press, Yale and Hollywood) in our minds.

Now they use their power to bring the world slowly down. They could do it faster, they controll every gouvernment, the Vatican, they controlled in the cold war both sides completely but they let all this chances for total world domination pass. Maybe they prefer to play with their prey before diner. Yes, that makes sense. They are devils! Don´t forget that because this is the key to understand them!

However, what to DO now?

It is obviously clear that a jew must not
- be any part of the financial system
- be a politician, not even an adviser or party member
- vote
- buy, sell or carry arms
- marry or have any kind of sexual relationship with a goi
- work in the media, spreading filthy lies, preaching foul values
- be a lawyer or take any part in the legal system
- teach at universities
- publish or write books, essays, leaflets intended to be read by goyim, including fictional and non-fictional
- work in a medical profession
- work with children, grown-ups and elderly people
- work in any buisness involving any responsibilty for anything, e.g. construction worker, police-officer, soldier, pilot, clerk, cook, cab driver, dog catcher, housewife...

The list goes on, they can do harm in any position. Don´t forget - they raise their children to hate the non-jew since centuries. Without any exeption. Proofed by the fact that NO ONE of them EVER testemonied against his race and told the whole truth about their plans! They all stick together, they all want the same, they all think in the same way since thousands of years - look how evil they are!

Throwing them out of social life can only be the first step. Imagine the mass of former lawyers, medics, cab drivers. Reduced to workless jews on the streets, begging for loose change (finally!), maybe they even start to smell and are getting a health threat.

You see, the danger is not gone. They haven´t any influence anymore (or so it seems...) but that does not make them harmless at all. They still can steal, kill, rape innocent people and do whatever I can imagine.

The best way to handle this is to put them all together. Maybe we could find an empty city. If we don´t we just could build some camps to concentrate these "people". It would be a start.

After some time maybe we would notice that our problems did not just disappear by that. There is still some evil out there, people are dying and killing, starving and splurging, buying things I don´t think they need, thinking thoughts I would never think, having opinions I could never share.

Why is that?

Two possibilities:
a) Other countries, controlled by jews, are working against us. The poison now comes from abroad.
b) the concentrated jews are still in power, working from their barracks to bring down the nation/the world.

We still underestimated them!
Luckily there is a solution to every problem, and for this problem I think we need a really fine, a final solution, ending this problem once and for all:

We could
a) force the jewish conrolled countries to stop beeing jewish controlled. If they don´t give in we get in and clean the mess by ourselfes.

b) The problem of the concentrated jews, possibly still damaging society, could be solved by simply killing them. Sooner or later they die anyway, why not speed it up a little - saving the world in the end. It would be our duty to free the world from that virus called "jew". It would be bloody and hard, we cannot let one child alive which would still carry the virus, hiding, seeking for revenge.

But we have to put mild feelings aside. It is not a question of will, it is one of need. It wouldn´t be killing exactly, just getting rid of a disease in a way. Decontaminate the planet.
The future will be grateful. Who doubts this world would be a perfect place if the Nazis would have really committed a holocaust and getting it finished worldwide?
It is such a simple idea, I will never understand why Hitler, Himmer and Heydrich never got it...

I know this sound harsh a bit. But it is just a logical thing. Think it through for yourself. Don´t let emotions come into your way - if they weaken you, they may be jewish too.
There is no other way.
IF they are responsible they have to leave. Far, far away. Afterlife would do it.

MaGZ, what do YOU think we should do to stop this danger?
Can we really risk the future of our children by keeping the jews in our society? Keeping these mass-murders, war-mongerers, liers alive?
You know what they did better than most of the poeple here.

WHY tolerate them at all?

Why showing them more mercy than they show to us?
They are responsible for wars, financial crisis, unrest in any part of the world - you know that!
They don´t repect our lifes, why should we have any respect for theirs?

There is no way to tame them or integrate them - one NEVER can trust these people!

MaGZ, help me out!
Can we seperate the evil jews from the harmless ones (if there are any)?
Can we ever trust?
Informing the public about the danger is one thing, and it is such a fine work you do. It is a start.
But a start for what?

Have you any idea what to do next?
How to make sure, really sure, this threat will finally end?

Your post reminded me of this.
http://www.heretical.com/pubs/fabledh.html

[twinstead]

I was SO waiting to hear your solution to the Jewish 'problem' MaGZ. Too bad.

[LibraryLady]

I was SO waiting to hear your solution to the Jewish 'problem' MaGZ. Too bad.

He's doing his research before he replies to us. I can respect that.

[Pardalis]

He's doing his research before he replies to us. I can respect that.

It's taking a while, I suggest he takes laxatives to speed up the process.

[Skeptic]

In the middle-ages those jews poisened the water, invented the black death and ate our innocent children in their bloody rituals (even children aren´t kosher at all).

Now we're reduced to messing up the economy. How the mighty have fallen.

Trust me on this one: clicking the "Yes" button when our Jewish computers bring up the "Destroy American Economy? [Yes] [No]" screen is fun, but nowhere NEAR as fun as poinsoning wells and eating babies used to be.

Yum Yum.

P.S.

MaGZ's favorite online fountain of knowledge -- "Metapedia, the Alternative Encyclopedia" -- has an entry for "Jewish ritual murder", so I suppose that he does, indeed, believe it's real.

[maxfrost]

Now we're reduced to messing up the economy. How the mighty have fallen.

Trust me on this one: clicking the "Yes" button when our Jewish computers bring up the "Destroy American Economy? [Yes] [No]" screen is fun, but nowhere NEAR as fun as poinsoning wells and eating babies used to be.


Damn, I wish I was Jewish. You guys have all the fun...

[Henry Crun]

Thank you MaGZ!

Once again you enlightened me.
But let´s put the fun-stuff besides for a moment, your problem is not fun at all. I really hope you clearly see this. It is a serious problem.
Think it through.
To the end.

Maybe I have to remind you once more (it is very important to see this problem in its whole):

There are jews in good jobs, wealthy people, with a lot of power.
That wouldn´t be a problem at all IF these jews would be just normal people doing their job to their best knowledge like everyone of us (well, most of us...).

BUT

these jews (every jew in good position) don´t just do their jobs -
the problem is they work secretly to fulfill a hidden agenda, damaging the whole world for the benefit of the jews and the jews only.

OR DON`T THEY? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Whatever they have in mind - I don´t know.
But I imagine it will be really bad for us.
Come on, why should they hide their plans in the first place?

So, IF they have a secret plan everything is possible.
Everything I can imagine.
IF they have a secret plan one cannot trust them, under no circumstances.
Not even Finkelstein or Hersh are ready to talk about the hidden jewish agenda and I imagine they know quite well. Look how far it goes. How clever they disguise. Most people don´t realize it at all.

Luckily you do.

But what to DO to end this?

It is obviously clear that jews cannot be allowed to get power and influence. You can´t trust a jew, not any jew, IF there is a hidden jewish agenda. You will never know who is part of it and who not. No jew ever talked openly about the disguisting plans of his fellows. Keep that in mind! See how strong they keep together.

So you have to get rid off the mighty jews, you have to force them into simple jobs where they can´t do any harm. Any.

Not that this idea is a new one - for centuries this was just the normal way of life.
But there were wars, famine, epedemics even when the jews were reduced to life in their ghettos. So they found a way to work on, secretly, harming us. Poison water-wells, eating children, spreading the plague, forcing countries into wars which made them rich - remember, in former time people knew that jews are cowards, never fight for themselfs but let others fight for them (I wonder why this knowledge is gone) and jewish men kept menstruating (also a truth about the jews, well-known in medieval time, today nearly forgotten).
But the most important thing, that they want to control the world, was never forgotten. We did anything to break them, nothing worked in the end.

Just keeping them out of power and concentrate them in ghettos didn´t do the job - everyone can clearly see that!

1290 Edward I. tried to solve the problem in England expelling all jews.
1492 the jews were expelled from Spain.

But this didn´t change anything, did it?
Jews were hiding, Jews were doing their work from abroad - maybe even more in rage than before. Jews got baptized but kept beeing jewish in their dark heart, the "maranen".

Now they have Israel, nuclear arms and secret agents all over the world.
Never in history they got more power in their hands.

We couldn´t solve the problem even when they were weak - so how do we handle this situation now?


Don´t let you fool you by your emotions.
Think it through, step by step.
Look how they constantly improved their position in a world of enemies.
NOTHING has stopped them.
I know, it is difficult to accept this, but it is very logical IF the assumptions are correct. And they are, or aren´t they.

They just have to vanish completly, we tried everything else in history but nothing worked. They are still here, meaning they are still working on their secret plans against us.
One can never trust them. You can never be sure.

The only problem with the jews is - they still exist.

Don´t you see this?
Maybe you are weakend by jewish propaganda, the mind-tricks they are playing, the "humanism"-thing, empathy and all this rubbish.
But you have to see the consequences. If they try to destroy us (or don´t they? What do you really think?) we have to destroy them first. We tried anything else in. They are still here. They are even more powerfull than before.

HOW TO STOP THIS?

There is only one way to make sure. If you are not ready to accept this I am sure other people will do the job for you. Take your own thoughts seriously, face the consequence that we are on war with the most devious enemy you can imagine.
Isn´t this the world you live in - or are you just playing with matches?

WHAT TO DO?

Sorry to insist on this, but this is the most important question after one has realized the situation.

[Liszt]

Is that supposed to be satire? If so, it is also supposed to be at least slightly amusing.

[twinstead]

He's doing his research before he replies to us. I can respect that.

He is already of a strong opinion on the matter, so I assumed that was because his research was already done. Isn't that usually how it works?

[twinstead]

Damn, I wish I was Jewish. You guys have all the fun...

Dude, you must not have read your NWO membership packet; once we join, we are all honorary Jews. We even get a cool yarmulke to wear after 10 years service!

[twinstead]

Is that supposed to be satire? If so, it is also supposed to be at least slightly amusing.

Not all satire is amusing. This satire wasn't meant to be amusing.

[Liszt]

Not all satire is amusing. This satire wasn't meant to be amusing.

satire
One entry found.


Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: \ˈsa-ˌtī(-ə)r\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin satura, satira, perhaps from (lanx) satura dish of mixed ingredients, from feminine of satur well-fed; akin to Latin satis enough — more at sad
Date: 1501
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

yes, you seem to be right. It was still a painful, boring read though. Less 1s and more 2s please.

[Roadtoad]

satire
One entry found.


Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: \ˈsa-ˌtī(-ə)r\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin satura, satira, perhaps from (lanx) satura dish of mixed ingredients, from feminine of satur well-fed; akin to Latin satis enough — more at sad
Date: 1501
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

yes, you seem to be right. It was still a painful, boring read though. Less 1s and more 2s please.

I'm sure the desire for more 2s is there. It would help, though, if MaGZ were a bit more cooperative. You know, if he'd only say, "I was wrong."

[CptColumbo]

Well, MaGZ, you seem to have a point. Even counting Paulson as a Christian Scientist, 7 of the last 10 treasury secretaries and Fed chairmen have been Jews. Certainly a much higher percentage than their percentage of the population as a whole. Why do you think that is?
I'd like to add that 43 of the last 43 Presidents of the United States (44 hasn't started yet) have been white christian males. That's 100%! The same is true of the 46 Vice-Presidents. While I don't have the exact figures in front of me "[c]ertainly a much higher percentage than their percentage of the population as a whole. Why do you think that is?"


I fail to see MaGZ's point.

Personally, I blame men. Anyway, that's what the wife tells me.

[dudalb]

Not all satire is amusing. This satire wasn't meant to be amusing.

The satire in question was not very good, period. I agree 100% with the point about where MaGZ and his beliefs lead to, but it was poorly executed.

[Liszt]

this may be off topic...but seeing as the Internet being cut of is, right now, the least of my concerns...

MaGZ rings true about some aspects of the Hollocaust. For example, I, along with millions of others educated in the UK, saw photos of the "gas chambers" - small rooms with wooden doors - and were told that 4 million people were gassed in them during a period of about 3 years.

No way. I was told off for saying this - but History came right after Maths (not "Math"), and I tried to work out how it could have happened (aged 14).

Roll forward about 10 years (1991?), and now it is 1.1m gassed. Who decided this? Was his maths worse than mine?

I have seen evidence about mass killings by Nazis with their mobile killing squads, and the terrible experiments that were carried out in Auschwitz. Detailed - nasty - disgusting things. But the gas chamber education - even when I was 14 - was rubbish.

[MaGZ]

this may be off topic...but seeing as the Internet being cut of is, right now, the least of my concerns...

MaGZ rings true about some aspects of the Hollocaust. For example, I, along with millions of others educated in the UK, saw photos of the "gas chambers" - small rooms with wooden doors - and were told that 4 million people were gassed in them during a period of about 3 years.

No way. I was told off for saying this - but History came right after Maths (not "Math"), and I tried to work out how it could have happened (aged 14).

Roll forward about 10 years (1991?), and now it is 1.1m gassed. Who decided this? Was his maths worse than mine?

I have seen evidence about mass killings by Nazis with their mobile killing squads, and the terrible experiments that were carried out in Auschwitz. Detailed - nasty - disgusting things. But the gas chamber education - even when I was 14 - was rubbish.

Once you start down that path of questioning the “Holocaust” there is no going back.

[applecorped]

Once you start down that path of questioning the “Holocaust” there is no going back.

...to sanity.

[Bobert]

MaGZ,
How do you know those arround you are even Jewish with all those pillowcases over their heads?

[Henry Crun]

Once you start down that path of questioning the “Holocaust” there is no going back. Great you are still here, MaGZ!

Can you just tell me how we should handle the jewish question?
What shall we do if we understood the danger of jewish influence?
How to break it?
How to be sure?

You startet many threads, illuminating us, explain to us the complexity of their influence - this wasn´t really something new to me because most of these arguments are going around for centuries.

Barabas: Then, after that, was I an usurer,
And with extorting, cozening, forfeiting,
And tricks belonging unto brokery,
I fill'd the gaols with bankrupts in a year,
And with young orphans planted hospitals;
And every moon made some or other mad,
And now and then one hang himself for grief,
Pinning upon his breast a long great scroll
How I with interest tormented him.


That was the picture C. Marlowe drew 400 years ago, it was a quite popular view - although there weren´t even any jews in england at that time.
It is not that different from your OP, is it.

What to do with Barabas?

Don´t you really ever think about the solution of the problem?
Do you just read and believe - or do you really think about it?

[gdnp]

Don´t you really ever think about the solution of the problem?
Do you just read and believe - or do you really think about it?

To cut MaGZ some slack, one does not necessarily have to think about a solution to the problem. Most of his ilk do not. In fact, a solution would be counterproductive. The Jews are useful as a scapegoat. If his life sucks, he has someone to blame. It is the Jews who are screwing everything up. It's not his fault or his friend's fault. If the Jewish problem were solved, he'd have to find someone else to blame his failures on. The blacks, the liberals, the socialists, the Democrats. Anything to avoid personal responsibility for his own failure to rise to his rightful position in the world.

[Skeptic]

MaGZ rings true about some aspects of the Hollocaust. For example, I, along with millions of others educated in the UK, saw photos of the "gas chambers" - small rooms with wooden doors - and were told that 4 million people were gassed in them during a period of about 3 years.

Oh Christ, not THIS nonsense again.

The "four million were gassed in Auschwitz" was NEVER accepted by any serious holocaut historian. It was part of post-war Soviet Propaganda.

The number of the Jews gassed -- in all the death camps and the gas lorries, NOT Just Auschwitz -- is about 2 million, to which one adds about 1.5 million shot dead by the 'special forces' units in the east, and another 2 to 3 million who were starved, beaten, worked, frozen, and medically experimented on to death throughout the hell that was Nazi-occupied Europe. Hence the "six million" figure.

My figures may be off a bit, since I'm quoting from memory, but this is the rough calculation all the evidence supports and all reputable historians accept. All accept the number of Jewish victims of the holocaust is -- depending on the exact sources, methods, and definitions they rely on -- somewhere between 5,100,000 and 6,700,000 -- due to such calculations.

In short, the "six million" figure held up remarkably well based on the evidence, and that evidence DOES NOT, and NEVER DID, rely on the Soviet "four million gassed at Auschwitz" figure.

(The "six million" figure was never, incidentally, intended as a holy number nobody can go below. It was a number used to give a name or a figure to the horror which was the holocaust, a rough estimate. Nobody ever claimed those historians who estimated the number of victims was 5,100,000 or 5,500,000 are "holocaust deniers". At most it can be said that they are probably wrong, since newly-found documents seems to show they have underestimated the number somewhat.)

In sum, Mr. Liszt, let this be a lesson to you not to rely on MaGZ for anything, lest you make a fool of yourself. If MaGZ says something is the case, then it's 99.99% likely it's total nonsense. The only thing MaGZ "rings true" about is his unerring ability to always quote nothing but White-Power propaganda.

[moon1969]

At least they are not jews like Lazar Kaganovich. It is still a fact that many jews were communists

[Doctor Evil]

At least they are not jews like Lazar Kaganovich. It is still a fact that many jews were communists

I fail to see your point.

Being a Jew was horrible in the early 20 century. Some have seen communism as a way out, with the promise of equality to all. Some have wanted self determination. Most just suffered.

Only a small minority of Jews were active communists. As far as I know, very few of them stayed in leading positions in the USSR. You seem to be holding all of them for the wrongs that Stalin did several decades later.

[tomwaits]

Oh Christ

teehee

[moon1969]

Jewish oligarchs also ruined the economy of Russia when Boris Yeltsin was president.

[gdnp]

Jewish oligarchs also ruined the economy of Russia when Boris Yeltsin was president.

Evidence?

[Brainster]

Jews have to be running and ruining the American economy because otherwise we wouldn't have a small group of people whom we could blame.

[JoeyDonuts]

The only thing MaGZ "rings true" about is his unerring ability to always quote nothing but White-Power propaganda.

At least he's got a few days to get caught up on the Stormfront forums while listening to Skrewdriver.

[timhau]

Jewish oligarchs also ruined the economy of Russia when Boris Yeltsin was president.

Yeah. That's why the current post-Yeltsin Russian state has absolutely no money.

[gdnp]

MaGZ, could you tell us why Jews are running the American economy? Is it some sort of conspiracy where Jews appoint other Jews to positions of power? Is it that only Jews get business school degrees or degrees in Economics--I have never seen the admissions figures? Who are the members of the conspiracy that I assume you believe exists: all Jews, only Jews of a certain denomination (orthodox, hassidic, conservative, reform), or a certain class of well-connected Jews. I have a fair number of Jewish friends, most of whom are doing quite well economically, and they have never mentioned any attendance at any sort of meeting where world domination was discussed.

[240-185]

MaGZ: Suspended

[timhau]

MaGZ: Suspended

Mossad finally got him.

[JoeyDonuts]

They're going to force him to go to a huge Jewish wedding.

Where hopefully he will get stinking drunk on the Manischewitz and have a rocking good time.

And hopefully realize that saying Jews are nefarious world-controlling puppet masters makes about as much sense as saying the Irish do nothing but eat potatoes, drink whiskey, and headbutt people. (Although that is a pretty typical weekend for this Mick, now that I think about it.)

[timhau]

They're going to force him to go to a huge Jewish wedding.

Where hopefully he will get stinking drunk on the Manischewitz and have a rocking good time.

And hopefully realize that saying Jews are nefarious world-controlling puppet masters makes about as much sense as saying the Irish do nothing but eat potatoes, drink whiskey, and headbutt people.

... and that's when Mossad gets him.

[NobbyNobbs]

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve
Ben Shalom Bernanke (February 1, 2006 - present)
Alan Greenspan (August 11, 1987 – January 31, 2006)
Paul Adolph Volker (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987)
George William Miller (March 8, 1978 - August 6, 1979)
Arthur Frank Burns (1970- 1978)

Secretaries of the Treasury
Henry Merritt "Hank" Paulson Jr. (July 3, 2006 - present)
John William Snow (February 3, 2003- June 28, 2006)
Paul Henry O'Neill (January 20, 2001 – December 31, 2002)
Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers ( July 2, 1999 - January 20, 2001)
Robert Edward Rubin (January 11, 1995 - July 2, 1999)

With the exceptions of Snow and O’Neill, all of the above are Jews.

With no exceptions, they are all men. Men are running and ruining the economy.

No, wait...

With no exceptions, they all have Anglo names. People with Anglo names are running and ruining the economy.

No, wait...

They were all born between 1920 and 1965. People born between those years are running and ruining the economy.

יכול אלף רוק גמלים חולים בעין שלך

[LibraryLady]

I'm still waiting for MaGZ to respond to my questions earlier in the thread. This is way long to do the research.

[Liszt]

Once you start down that path of questioning the “Holocaust” there is no going back.

Yes there is. I have questioned lots of aspects of the Holocaust, and have heard first hand experience from people who fought in the war. I think that the gas chamber deaths have been exaggerated, but the reports other mass killings are accurate. However, the gas chambers have almost become “war porn” thanks to people like Spielberg.

I was once called a “Holocaust denier” for saying that the film Schindler’s List was a work of fiction – even though the book it was based on, Schindler’s Ark, won the Booker Prize for fiction in 1982.

My post was really about how badly I was educated about this at school. And correcting ones perceptions seems to be a never ending task (not a bad one though).

[Liszt]

Oh Christ, not THIS nonsense again.

The "four million were gassed in Auschwitz" was NEVER accepted by any serious holocaut historian. It was part of post-war Soviet Propaganda.

...(good stuff was cut here, but it just needed to go. I should have edited "The Phantom Menace")...

In sum, Mr. Liszt, let this be a lesson to you not to rely on MaGZ for anything, lest you make a fool of yourself. If MaGZ says something is the case, then it's 99.99% likely it's total nonsense. The only thing MaGZ "rings true" about is his unerring ability to always quote nothing but White-Power propaganda.


There is no need to be quite so rude.

My point – perhaps put badly – was that education about the Holocaust was poor (“rubbish”).

And it is. For example, my father, who is well educated and in his 70s, until very recently believed the lampshades/soap stories.

There is a clip on youtube from an old Donahue show with David Cole and Michael Schirmer with a woman who calls in saying that she had seen proof of the lampshades and the soap at Auschwitz. I think she also said she was born there. It should still be on youtube, I saw it ages ago. That show was just chaos.

So my point, again, is that the education about the Holocaust is at best inconsistent.

Thanks for your info though – it wasn’t relevant or even necessary, but interesting nevertheless.

[PitPat]

It's pretty simple, really. It's not so much that Jews are overrepresented in the finance industry, it's that they're horribly underrepresented in the NBA. Since pro hoops are keeping them down, they have to go somewhere, right? Hmm, the commissioner of the NBA, David Stern, has a suspicious sounding ethnic name too. Think about it. Anyway the distance of these inferential leaps are about on par with the topic, I believe.

[Liszt]

...the distance of these inferential leaps are about on par with the topic, I believe.


it was worth it just for your quote.

Just like when John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction says "it was worth him doing it (scratching his car) just so that I can (do whatever it is he wants to do)”

[Chaos]

I'm still waiting for MaGZ to respond to my questions earlier in the thread. This is way long to do the research.

This thread has become infested with critical questions and unwelcome facts. I don´t think MaGZ could stand returning here long enough to answer questions - any more than a vampire could stand returning to a place hung with garlic cloves and sprinkled with holy water.

[LibraryLady]

This thread has become infested with critical questions and unwelcome facts. I don´t think MaGZ could stand returning here long enough to answer questions - any more than a vampire could stand returning to a place hung with garlic cloves and sprinkled with holy water.

Well, that's a pity, isn't it.

[gdnp]

I'm still waiting for MaGZ to respond to my questions earlier in the thread. This is way long to do the research.

Darat may have something to do with the delay. Something about a 3 day suspension (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=128900)

[moon1969]

Same reason why Boris Yeltsin had those jewish oligarchs who ruined Russia. People like Boris Berezovsky. Funny thing is that a jew George Soros called Boris Berezovsky an "evil genius". So why would George Soros hate Boris Berezovsky if there were together in somekind of a conspiracy?

[Fiona]

What makes you think "evil genius" expresses hatred?

[LibraryLady]

Darat may have something to do with the delay. Something about a 3 day suspension (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=128900)

Except I asked my questions more than a week ago. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4189506#post4189506) He had time before his suspension.

Oh, well. Maybe he's using his time off wisely.

[dudalb]

.

Oh, well. Maybe he's using his time off wisely.

Don't bet on it.

[Chaos]

Well, that's a pity, isn't it.

An entirely predictable one, too, which is even more of a pity.

Well, as they say where I live, no answer at all is also an answer.

[Thunder]

Same reason why Boris Yeltsin had those jewish oligarchs who ruined Russia. People like Boris Berezovsky. Funny thing is that a jew George Soros called Boris Berezovsky an "evil genius". So why would George Soros hate Boris Berezovsky if there were together in somekind of a conspiracy?

what do you think about your gentile President, Vladimir Putin? This man killed hundreds of innocent Russian citizens in Europe's worst false-flag attack of the 20th century. But I bet you love him.

[LibraryLady]

Well, he's back, started a new thread, and is still ignoring my questions.

I'm truly puzzled.

[timhau]

Paul Volcker. Not Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker#Personal_life), even tough MaGZ listed him as such earlier in this thread. What's wrong, are the Jews slipping?

[gdnp]

Paul Volcker. Not Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker#Personal_life), even tough MaGZ listed him as such earlier in this thread. What's wrong, are the Jews slipping?

He grew up in Teaneck, NJ, which has a large Jewish population, and thus he should be considered Jewish even though one parent went to a Lutheran church and the other was Episcopal. I hope this clarifies everything.

[timhau]

He grew up in Teaneck, NJ, which has a large Jewish population, and thus he should be considered Jewish even though one parent went to a Lutheran church and the other was Episcopal. I hope this clarifies everything.

Ah. One of those stealthy if-you-dig-deep-enough-into-his-family-history types.

[Chaos]

Ah. One of those stealthy if-you-dig-deep-enough-into-his-family-history types.

I think if you dig deep enough into his family history, you´ll discover that MaGZ´s ancestry is 100% australopithecines. That much for the master race...

[Horatius]

I think if you dig deep enough into his family history, you´ll discover that MaGZ´s ancestry is 100% australopithecines. That much for the master race...



The difference is, in their time, australopithecines were a step forward.

[Thunder]

Paul Volcker. Not Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker#Personal_life), even tough MaGZ listed him as such earlier in this thread. What's wrong, are the Jews slipping?

Volcker sounds sooo German. Which in the NY area means...soooo Jewish.

=)

[Jono]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

There are two issues raised here, one is a note from the general observation that people of jewish identity, wether ethno-religious or ethno-cultural or whatever term you wish, are oft disproportionately found in matters pertaining to western finance (and media and/or academia).
The second issue is that this or these groups clustered together share a similar disproportionate responsibility for the ailments of American Economy.

The former issue is less controversial as a simple observation (still prone to toxic musings of course, from either take or side), the latter one is the kind where conflicts and controversy enter when interpretation and assertions are made of what this (the former issue) means, what consequences it has had etc etc.

Since I am not particulary knowledgable of american economy, I couldn't really comment on this claim at all, except that I believe it to be a rather widespread responsibility in general.

[Roadtoad]

WL, give it up. It's MaGZ that's posting. He's a troll.

Instead, have a beer and a smoke.

[Jono]

WL, give it up. It's MaGZ that's posting. He's a troll.

Instead, have a beer and a smoke.

Yeah I do have beers at home, I do not smoke however. We swedes we oft do the tobacco component "snus":
http://www.swedishsnus.com/

[MostlyHarmless]

Snus has kept me off cigarettes for two years now. I have it shipped direct from Sweden to New York. Love the stuff. Sorry, O/T.

[Jono]

Snus has kept me off cigarettes for two years now. I have it shipped direct from Sweden to New York. Love the stuff. Sorry, O/T.

Ah, interestinc curiosa. While I do not know about the cancerous effect from snus in comparison to cigarettes, you are less likely to contract lung cancer though.

[MostlyHarmless]

From what I remember reading before switching, Swedish style snus increases the risk of cancer overall by about 1/10th the increase from cigs. The largest risk increase was in pancreatic cancer, still only about 1/2 of cigs. What surprised me was no increase in mouth cancers was shown.

Other non smoking oral tobacco products (chewing, skoal, snuff, etc) were shown not to be as safe.

[Jono]

From what I remember reading before switching, Swedish style snus increases the risk of cancer overall by about 1/10th the increase from cigs. The largest risk increase was in pancreatic cancer, still only about 1/2 of cigs. What surprised me was no increase in mouth cancers was shown.

Other non smoking oral tobacco products (chewing, skoal, snuff, etc) were shown not to be as safe.

Well, I think "loose" snus might be the one you are referring too. The "snus" that is packaged in thin parcels, not emitting any fluid that goes to the stomache etc, is different I believe.
Still, I haven't really kept up with the research on it.

[rachelslight]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.

[timhau]

Yes! Things were so much better in the 1300s when proper Christians were in charge.

[commandlinegamer]

Oops, I seem to have wandered onto the David Icke forums. Alt-B to go back, I think.

[Chaos]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.

Not quite. Jews have only ever controlled one nation in the last 2000 years, and it seems to be going strong right now.

[Horatius]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.



Your very first post used to bump, and approve of, a zombie antisemitic MaGZ Thread. Oh, you're going to be all sorts of fun.

[Hokulele]

Apparently it only take a single Jew to control an entire nation. Damned efficient, they are.

[MaGZ]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.

Welcome to the forum.

[Pardalis]

Out goes TinFoil Timothy and in enters another one. :(

Kind of like genital herpes, it never really goes away.

[MaGZ]

Not quite. Jews have only ever controlled one nation in the last 2000 years, and it seems to be going strong right now.

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.

[Eyeron]

No Jews, know peace.
Know Jews, no peace.

[AJM8125]

No Jews, know peace.
Know Jews, no peace.

Thanks for playing, Adolph.

[Eyeron]

You're quite welcome Ash.

[Arus808]

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.


only in your fantasy land

[Drudgewire]

When will the sheeple wake up and realize Jews are only a smokescreen keeping us blinded to the Eskimo menace? :eek:

[AJM8125]

When will the sheeple wake up and realize Jews are only a smokescreen keeping us blinded to the Eskimo menace? :eek:

Obviously you've never heard of a Jewskimo.:rolleyes:

[Drudgewire]

Obviously you've never heard of a Jewskimo.:rolleyes:

:scarper:

[quarky]

If Jews didn't run and ruin everything, it would be homosexuals. Jews make a good hated minority because there aren't very many of them. Gay Jews will eventually take over and ruin and run everything. There's no point in fighting it. If straight christian caucasions ran and ruined everything, it would dilute the fun of hate to a meaningless point.

And what's up with all the Jewish comedians?
Its not funny.

[1337m4n]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.

Is there, like, a factory that manufactures these people?

[timhau]

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.

So they lifted the US out of the Great Depression and built the most prosperous nation on Earth? Damn subhumans!

[Paradox74]

i think you're missing the point here.

If they're good with money, they must be jews. Ipso facto.

if the economy is doing well, it is because the jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to amass greater personal power and influence. if the economy is doing poorly, it is because the jews are in power, and using their financial acuity to destroy any/all opposition.

Your whole "white, anglo-saxon protestant" thing is an obvious red herring.

beep! Beep! Beep!
Warning! Bull@^#&! Detected!

[cwalner]

If Jews didn't run and ruin everything, it would be homosexuals. Jews make a good hated minority because there aren't very many of them. Gay Jews will eventually take over and ruin and run everything. There's no point in fighting it. If straight christian caucasions ran and ruined everything, it would dilute the fun of hate to a meaningless point.

And what's up with all the Jewish comedians?
Its not funny.

Unfortunately, I would violate several sections of the MA going into detail what I would make you all do once we take over

[Skeptic]

Gay Jews will eventually take over and ruin and run everything.

I keep telling that to my gorgeous friend Moshe Cohen as we choose out our spandex uniform, but for some reason he isn't concerned.

[Eyeron]

Wow that's one of the wierdest things about Jews I've heard in a while. Whichever nation Jews control brings the end of the nation? How can that be so since they've been running every single nation on earth for the past several thousand years since they control the banks and the banks control the world?

[Roadtoad]

Wow. Just... Wow.

More toxic sludge from the loonies. Good thing I wear boots, and have been trained to handle HazMat.

[Humanzee]

Not only that there is any evidence for jews contro...oh for pete's sake, nevermind. All the rational people get it....besides the gay jewish eskimos conversation is far more interesting.

[Eyeron]

It's called sarcasm.

[Chaos]

Wow. Just... Wow.

More toxic sludge from the loonies. Good thing I wear boots, and have been trained to handle HazMat.

Speaking of which... what is the proper procedure for disposing of this stuff? I suppose simply flushing it down the toilet won´t do.

[Roadtoad]

First, it must be contained. I prefer to use heavily absorbent material, as well as absorbent padding. This should all be spread evenly in order to maximize the collection effort.

Once collected, it should be placed in tightly sealed containers, and the containers placed into encapsulating units. The waste, depending on its nature, can either be incinerated, or it can be buried in an appropriate landfill. Considering the high degree of rot that has already taken place to create the spill we're presently dealing with, I would suggest incineration.

May I request of the mods that this thread be moved to AAH, and left open so we can flame the offenders?

[rachelslight]

Jews are strangling America's economy on two fronts. (1) Each year America sends billions of dollars of FREE MONEY to israel. (2) The media and government in America is controlled by the jew. These are indeed the reasons America's economy is having problems.

[carlitos]

Well, this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=rachelslight) is sort of creepy.

1 definition by rachelslight

1. jew 54 up, 137 down
The "real" jews, descendants of the Hebrews, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, from the Old Testament, were annihilated for the most part during the first century A.D.

99% of "white" jews we see today are actually descendants of Khazars, a pagan race that used to live in Khazaria (name changed to Russia today). These Khazars converted to judaism around 740 A.D. The white jews are NOT the blood descendants of Abraham, Jacob or Moses, from the Old Testament. For more info please do some research and read a book called "The Thirteenth Tribe" written by Arthur Koestler, himself a Khazar.

It is sad that the Khazars (who call themselves jews today) are so ashamed of their real ancestors. Shame.

"White jews are descendants of Khazars, a pagan race that used to live in Khazaria (named Russia later)."
get this def on a mug
jew khazar talmud racist converts
by rachelslight Feb 12, 2007 share this

[LibraryLady]

Well, this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=rachelslight) is sort of creepy.

Sort of?

[Horatius]

(2) The media and government in America is controlled by the jew.



You mean there's just the one of them?

I'm sure you could suggest some sort of solution that would finally rid us of this one pesky jew, couldn't you?

[marksman]

You mean there's just the one of them?

It's probably the Wandering Jew. He's just impossible to get rid of!

[Horatius]

It's probably the Wandering Jew. He's just impossible to get rid of!



Well, let's hope he wanders somewhere else, then!

[timhau]

But what if the Bear Jew comes and takes his place? He'll control the media and government and smash your head in with a baseball bat.

[Thunder]

as the Jewish population grew significantly, so did this nation's wealth and prosperity.

one could argue that if you want a nation to prosper economically and socially, bring in a few thousand jews.

[cwalner]

You mean there's just the one of them?


And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those pesky kids.

[cwalner]

The "real" jews, descendants of the Hebrews, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, from the Old Testament, were annihilated for the most part during the first century A.D.

99% of "white" jews we see today are actually descendants of Khazars, a pagan race that used to live in Khazaria (name changed to Russia today). These Khazars converted to judaism around 740 A.D.

<obnoxious little kid in class mode>
Um, Ms Rachelslight, if the Jews were annihilated in the 1st century, who converted the Khazars to Judaism in the 8th century?
</obnoxious little kid in class mode>

[carlitos]

I was thinking the same thing when I first read that.

[Skeptic]

You mean there's just the one of them?


I'd like to have his phone number. Sounds like a useful guy to know.

[Thunder]

<obnoxious little kid in class mode>
Um, Ms Rachelslight, if the Jews were annihilated in the 1st century, who converted the Khazars to Judaism in the 8th century?
</obnoxious little kid in class mode>

extensive genetic testing of European Jews (Ashkenazi and Sephardic) shows that many Jews do indeed still maintain their original Middle Eastern genetic roots.

A good deal of intermarriage and conversion did occur, but Y chromosomes for Levi and Cohane Jews does show remarkable similarity and a long line of common descent.

funny thing is though, the oldest genetic ancestry of the Jews, which is of course of Middle Eastern origin, is NOT most like that of the Arabs of Palestine, but of the Kurds.

Which, works quite well, as Abraham and the Hebrews most likely followed the Fertile Crescent route (which goes right through Kurdistan), from Babylonia to Canaan.

[KoihimeNakamura]

54 up (javascript:void(0)), 140 down (javascript:void(0)) (javascript:void(0))

[Lothian]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.Too right, who could forget what Levi Cohen did to Atlantis.

[LibraryLady]

54 up (javascript:void(0)), 140 down (javascript:void(0)) (javascript:void(0))

It's the 54 up that worries me. :(

[Paulhoff]

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.
So then, the Great Depression was not started by them. Explain yourself Magz you hateful person.

Paul

:) :) :)

[Darat]

So then, the Great Depression was not started by them. Explain yourself Magz you hateful person.

Paul

:) :) :)

Typical, you're trying to say all Jews are the same! Everyone knows that the Great Depression was caused by those other Jews!

[Paulhoff]

Typical, you're trying to say all Jews are the same! Everyone knows that the Great Depression was caused by those other Jews!
Why is Magz still on the forum?

Paul

:) :) :)

[marksman]

Because Magz is a secret Jew. An ultra-secret Jew we've sent to infiltrate Stormfront and other racist sites. He's so secret, even he doesn't know he's Jewish. See, a few rabbis from the Trilateral Commission snuck into his hovel, induced a medical coma, circumcised him pursuant to the sacred rites (thus making him irrevocably Jewish), then carefully Krazy Glued the foreskin back on so he wouldn't know. Even Magz doesn't realize that in every post he is sending subconciously induced reports to his handlers in the Mossad, Haddassah and the Jewish wing of the Catholic Church letting us know exactly how close the imminent racial awakening of the goyim is, so we can prepare out false flag efforts and our collapses of the banking system. Oh, sure, some sacrifices had to be made. We had to send Madoff to jail, and people now know Ahmadinejad is Jewish. But as long as Magz keeps on posting, the Jewstm will always be prepared to counteract anything the white protestant folk cook up. (Except Miley Cyrus -- damn, we tried everything to stop that chick, but to no avail. Damn you, Walt Disney!)

[cwalner]

<snip> the Jewish wing of the Catholic Church <snip>
My family is Jewish, but my sister-in-law is Catholic. Would that make my brother part of that wing or my sister-in-law?

[brodski]

When will the sheeple wake up and realize Jews are only a smokescreen keeping us blinded to the Eskimo menace? :eek:

Did you know they have more than 50 different words for "evil plot to secretly oppress the masses"?

[marksman]

My family is Jewish, but my sister-in-law is Catholic. Would that make my brother part of that wing or my sister-in-law?

You don't have sufficient clearance for that information. :)

[cwalner]

You don't have sufficient clearance for that information. :)
Maaaannn!!! I never get to join the fun conspiricies for world domination!!

[timhau]

Maaaannn!!! I never get to join the fun conspiricies for world domination!!

It's foreskin or world domination, your choice. You can't have both.

[Hokulele]

I don't have a foreskin.

Woo hoo! World domination ahoy!

;)

[Paulhoff]

I don't have a foreskin.

Woo hoo! World domination ahoy!

;)
That is two of us, and I'm not Jewish too, but I"m all ready if I want too.

Paul

:) :) :)

[cwalner]

It's foreskin or world domination, your choice. You can't have both.
Think you missed something. What part of my stating my family is Jewish did you think I excluded myself from that.

The gripe was that I am Jewish and still don't get to join the fun conspiricies. And in the finest of stereotypical Jewish traditions, I hereby offer one foreskin to anybody who will let me in on thier world domination conspiracy.

[Roadtoad]

Well, I'm not Jewish, but I object to this crap.

At no point has there ever been any evidence of a conspiracy, nor has there ever been any sign that a conspiracy could have been instituted.

Garbage in, garbage out.

[ArmillarySphere]

Since women don't have foreskin, does that mean they're all Jewish?
And thus, part of the secrit organization?


This would explain so much.

[Ladewig]

Did you know they have more than 50 different words for "evil plot to secretly oppress the masses"?

Thanks, I needed that.

[Chaos]

Well, I'm not Jewish, but I object to this crap.

At no point has there ever been any evidence of a conspiracy, nor has there ever been any sign that a conspiracy could have been instituted.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Well, if there was any evidence for a secret conspiracy, it wouldn´t be a secret conspiracy any more. Therefore the lack of evidence for a conspiracy proves that there is a conspiracy.

However, in the interest of equal opportunity hatemongering, I suggest that MaGZ and the rest of the usual crowd only defame Anasazi, Shintoists and Ed Wood fans for the next six months.

[LostAngeles]

Whichever nation a jew controls, it is the end of that nation.

I see. So Israel isn't over 50 years old, it really self destructed the instant that a Jew controlled it, giving it probably the shortest lifespan of any nation. For the past 50 years, Israel is really a complex hologram being kept up by the U.S. military and Islam so that the U.S. can provide the Middle East with the weapons to prevent the reawakening of Tiamat.

Jews are strangling America's economy on two fronts. (1) Each year America sends billions of dollars of FREE MONEY to israel. (2) The media and government in America is controlled by the jew. These are indeed the reasons America's economy is having problems.

Aha! So it wasn't greed and short-sightedness and selfishness that sent us spiraling into this recession it was having to provide the funds to keep up the illusion of Israel!

Jews have been in control of the US since FDR.

And hey, our economy was rocking during the 50s and the 90s wasn't it! Or were those really Khazars?

as the Jewish population grew significantly, so did this nation's wealth and prosperity.

one could argue that if you want a nation to prosper economically and socially, bring in a few thousand jews.

Apparently Japan tried that during WWII. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_settlement_in_Imperial_Japan)

[cwalner]

However, in the interest of equal opportunity hatemongering, I suggest that MaGZ and the rest of the usual crowd only defame Anasazi, Shintoists and Ed Wood fans for the next six months.
Man, I can never catch a break.

[rachelslight]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

[jaydeehess]

Why do we always have Jews running and ruining the American economy?

It seems like in recent years we have always had Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve Bank and Secretary of Treasury. Even now with Obama, he is considering which Jew to appoint to Treasury.

The question is why?

Well MaGZ, you are welcome to apply for the job. I can say with confidence that I believe you'd be good at it, at least with the later part.

[cwalner]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

Hmm, That only sounds like a temporary solution. Are you certain that you did not want to suggest something more Final?

[twinstead]

Hmm, That only sounds like a temporary solution. Are you certain that you did not want to suggest something more Final?

Oh no he di'int!

[LibraryLady]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

Okay, first of all, I am a Jew (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4136734#post4136734).

Why exactly do you hate me?

[fromdownunder]

Okay, first of all, I am a Jew (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4136734#post4136734).

Why exactly do you hate me?

Perhaps Rachel despises the fact that she has a given name of Jewish origin, and actually hates her parents for doing this evil thing to her. After all, Rachel does mean "ewe, female sheep".

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rachel

On the other hand, and judging by her brief and pathetic posting history here, she may be just a troll.

Norm

[LostAngeles]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

Yeah, but I thought they were still able to control the economy from there. I mean, it was tried and now THE JEWS run everything, don't they?

You're going to need a better plan.

Or maybe...

Maybe they don't run everything and are another victimized group?

[dudalb]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

Any bets that rachel is dating 9/11 investigator?

[LibraryLady]

All I want is a plain, logical explanation of why she hates Jews. Preferably in 25 words or less.

[Doctor Evil]

All I want is a plain, logical explanation of why she hates Jews. Preferably in 25 words or less.

I think we may have a problem here

[LibraryLady]

No. She seems to be a woman with strong convictions and the willingness to express them. I am giving her an open opportunity to do so.

[Thunder]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

what would u say if you suddenly found out you had a Jewish grandparent?

[LostAngeles]

what would u say if you suddenly found out you had a Jewish grandparent?

I bet she'd dye her hair black, comb it over her eyes after putting way too much eyeliner on them, get some skinny jeans from Hot Topic and then write in her LiveJournal and make Deviant Art posts about how much the world sucks.

I mean, her 13th birthday is probably coming up, right?

[Hokulele]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.


And put those wimminfolk back in the kitchen, barefoot, illitrate, and pregnant, the way they are supposed to be, dag nab it!

[Brainster]

Jews brought forth Superman and Batman. I say put them back to work on comic books and America will be the better for it. Enough running the economy; let them run Spiderman!

[timhau]

Hmm... Moshe Spiderberg, superhero. I like the sound of that.

[LibraryLady]

Apparently Rachelslight is taking time to compose a thoughtful and well written response. I appreciate that.

[JimBenArm]

And put those wimminfolk back in the kitchen, barefoot, illitrate, and pregnant, the way they are supposed to be, dag nab it!
Who let them out? When did they start trying to learn to write? Isn't that like trying to teach algebra to a squirrel?

(please don't hurt me)

[LibraryLady]

I am not rising to any one else's bait. I am waiting for a reply.

[calebprime]

What's a nice gal like you, LL, doing in a place like this?

[LibraryLady]

Waiting for an answer.

[Bobert]

Do I get a big bag of money if I become a Jew?

[carlitos]

I'm Lutheran, but I ate Nova Lox and Latke for breakfast today. Did I help ruin the world's economy somehow?

[Thunder]

a Jew invented the vaccine for polio. and yet, anti-Semites still take the vaccine. how odd.

two Jews invented the birth-control pill.

a Jew invented the gasoline combustion engine. yet anti-Semites still drive around in cars.

two Jews invented blue jeans. anti-Semites feel most comfortable in jeans.

the list goes on and on.

[JLJudik]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

Oh, gosh. I think you must have gotten lost on the way to the Stormfront forum?

:jaw-dropp

[Thunder]

Oh, gosh. I think you must have gotten lost on the way to the Stormfront forum?

:jaw-dropp

i think its more that rational people simply avoid Stormfront. so they really have no one to debate with.

:(

[Klimax]

Waiting for an answer.

I am afraid you won't get one.

[JLJudik]

i think its more that rational people simply avoid Stormfront. so they really have no one to debate with.

:(

"Rational" people? You mean like "Rachaelslight."? <scratches head>.

[Mr. Skinny]

And put those wimminfolk back in the kitchen, barefoot, illitrate, and pregnant, the way they are supposed to be, dag nab it!
Ja! Kinder, Küche, Kirche.

[JAStewart]

Don't consumers run the economy...

[PhantomWolf]

While I have been away I discovered the Awful Truth of it all. The world's banking institutions aren't being taken over by the Jews, they are being taken over by the.....






































Australians!

Honest, they own all but two of our banks, and even my Bank in the USA is owned by them. Beware, beware least you too lose your bank to the Ozzies!!

[Eyeron]

Jews just renamed themselves Australians to fool you.

[Thunder]

The Canadians bought Commerce Bank, and the Brits just took over all the gas companies in the Northeast. We are now under the control of National Grid.

are the Canadians and Brits all Jews?

[Eyeron]

Yep. Only Jews can run the world banks. They're just good at disguise and subterfuge to fool you.

[Thunder]

Jews. can't live with em'. can't live without em'.

:)

[Skeptic]

--"Moyshe, why don't the Americans elected a Jewish president, to get them out of this mess? Aren't we Jews supposed to be smart?"

--"Chaim, in Israel we have had a Jewish president for the last 60 years, and let me tell you, it doesn't help."

[Skeptic]

We need to go back to the good old days. Put the jews back in ghettos and thus save the population from being strangled financially.

You're just jealous the Jew down the street is making a lot more money than you...

[zaphod2016]

You're just jealous the Jew down the street is making a lot more money than you...

Hey, if it makes him feel better, this Jew right here is forced to work weekends to cover XMAS spending.

I want my Jew gold, dammit.

Parky, are you holding out on me?

[dudalb]

Jews brought forth Superman and Batman. I say put them back to work on comic books and America will be the better for it. Enough running the economy; let them run Spiderman!


Hell,not just Supes and Batsy. Joe Simon, Jack Kirby, and Stan Lee (real name Stanley Liberman) ,the major forces who created Marvel Comics (including, of course, the Ultimate Patriotic Hero, Captain America) were all Members Of The Tribe. In fact, the comic industry in America was a Jewish Creation, much like the Film Industry.

[rachelslight]

The talmud is the reason for the jewish problem. The talmud is the most EVIL, RACIST book written by jewish men. The talmud reviles all non-jews. The talmud is considered the holiest book to jews. Every non-jew should be concerned and look into this problem. Research the word "talmud" and you will see...