9/11 Conspiracy Planning Sessions

[dtugg]

This thread is for the various planning sessions that must have happened if various twoofer fantasies are true. I know people have done made similar posts but I don't think that there is a thread for them.

Pentagon Flyover

POTUS: So, thus far we have decided fly an airliner into each of the WTC towers, after which we will have them collapse using an incendiary which has never been used in demolitions before. Is there anything else we need to do?

VPOTUS: Yes, we need to strike something else otherwise the sheeple will never believe that it was a terrorist strike.

NSA: Why they hell not? After the second plane hits, everyone will think that it was a terrorist attack. Why make the plan even more complicated?

VPOTUS: Shut up, Condi, this is man talk. We know what we are doing.

SECDEF: I've got one! Why don't we fly a plane into the Pentagon? It is one of the most important and recognizable structures in the world. Plus, it is the headquarters of the military. I even work there myself. Nobody would believe that we actually did that.

POTUS: That sounds great, Rummy! That is why my dad made me appoint you SECDEF.

VPOTUS: It is pretty good. I've got an ever better one. Why don't we just pretend that a plane hit the Pentagon? We can fly a plane painted to look like a commercial airliner straight towards the Pentagon and pull up and over it at the last second. We will then have bombs explode at exactly the right moment causing a bunch of damage. The fireball will also disguise the flyover.

NSA. Dick, that doesn't makes any sense. Why don't we just fly a plane into the Pentagon like we're doing at the WTC? That way we can ensure that eyewitnesses report that a plane flew into the Pentagon. We also don't have to worry about planting evidence.

SECDEF: Condi, you're just a woman, you don't understand how things work in the real world. The flyover idea is a great one, I wish I came up with it myself. It will be very easy to convince eyewitnesses into believing a plane hit the Pentagon using some sort of magic trick. And you forget, we are all powerful, it will be easy to plant physical evidence that fits the story of a plane hitting the Pentagon. We even have a deep cover cab driver that we can use.

NSA: I am sorry, I still don't understand why it wouldn't be easier just crash the airplane into the Pentagon.

VPOTUS: Come on, don't you know the first rule of covert conspiracies? The more complicated and convoluted, the better. Plus, we don't have the budget to destroy another plane after crashing the two into the WTC, plus buying all that thermite.

NSA: Come on, that is crazy. What do you think, Mr. President?

POTUS: Well Condi, I don't know. You make some good points. But so do Dick and Rummy. I just can't make up my mind. Maybe I should call my Dad and ask him.

POTUS' Father: Hello?

POTUS: Daddy, it is Junior. I have a question for you.

POTUS' Father: Yes, what is it?

POTUS: Well, you know that false flag terror operation that we are running in September?

POTUS' Father: Yes, what about it?

POTUS: Well, after we fly the planes into the WTC, we want to hit the Pentagon also to make the whole thing look more believable.

POTUS' Father: That that sounds like a good idea, Junior.

POTUS. Well, Dick and Rummy think that it is a good idea to fake the whole thing. They want to have a plane fly towards the Pentagon and then fly up and over it at the last second. The plan is to fool all the eyewitnesses using a magic trick and then fake all the physical evidence. Condi think that it would be a better idea to just fly a plane into the Pentagon.

Former POTUS: Junior, what did I tell you after I got you appointed to this office? Listen to whatever Dick and Rummy tell you to do. They know what they are doing. Who cares what Condi says, she is just a woman.

POTUS: OK, thank you Daddy.

POTUS: Alright folks, you all heard what my daddy said. We are going to fake the Pentagon plane crash. Condi, I don't want to ever again hear about how this is a bad idea. As a reward, you can have Colin's position after we make him resign. Understood, everyone?

NSA: Yes, Mr. President.

VPOTUS: Yes, Mr President.

SECDEF: Yes, Mr President.

POTUS: Alright, lets get to work, we have to figure out how we are going to pull off this magic trick and plant all the physical evidence.

[Magenta]

How about the one where Larry Silverstein was brought into the NWO fold with a special project involving WTC7 and where he misunderstood the part about NOT REVEALING the plan on national TV?

[firecoins]

How about the one where Larry Silverstein was brought into the NWO fold with a special project involving WTC7 and where he misunderstood the part about NOT REVEALING the plan on national TV?
what?! Your not suppossed to reveal a secret conspiracy on National TV? Those Jews probably did it to throws us off. How sneaky!

[Bobert]

I have said many times that the CIT claimes would make for a great black comedy.
But alas Craig and Aldo share 1 brain cell so they will never realize just how cool this would be if they got a director like Quentin Tarantino to make a blockbuster out of their fantasy.
:D

[Aitch]

I have said many times that the CIT claimes would make for a great black comedy.
But alas Craig and Aldo share 1 brain cell so they will never realize just how cool this would be if they got a director like Quentin Tarantino to make a blockbuster out of their fantasy.
:D

Doesn't Ollie Stone have first dibs on all conspiracy-based film scripts? ;)

[Brainster]

VPOTUS: Now, we've also got to handle the fact that inevitable a small group of people will arise who know the Truth about 9-11--lets call them the understanders--

POTUS: Misunderstanders you mean?

VPOTUS: Let's just call them Truthers for now. We have to subvert them somehow. I know; lets make sure that all the initial Truthers are anti-semitic nutbars. Then the second wave will be apparently credible but if you Google their claims you'll find out that they're easily disproven.

POTUS: And the fourth wave?

VPOTUS: Third, Mr President. Our current program is to make them all teenage boys with acne and black shirts--easily demonized.

POTUS: So when do I get to declare mission really accomplished?

VPOTUS: When the final Truther is in custody and we can begin putting the FEMA death camps into operation. (aside) I love the smell of guillotine presses in the morning!

[UNLoVedRebel]

Larry Silverstein: So when are we going to pull it?

Demo expert: WTF does "pull it" mean?

[Undesired Walrus]

POTUS: Don't forget those files in WTC7!

POWELL: Ah, don't worry, I'll transfer them over to our systems.

POTUS: No, what will be better is if we rely on the chance that the WTC collapse will cause enough damage to WTC7 that the all the firefighters around will believe it is coming down. We might even get some fires!

POWELL: That's it, I'm supporting Obama.

[bje]

Matt Taibbi covered the planning session for Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11818067/the_low_post_the_hopeless_stupidity_of_911_conspir acies/2

[Dr Adequate]

The White House Tapes (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=78356)

Well, Mr President, I think I've come up with the causus belli you wanted. Let's trick the public into thinking that terrorists have flown planes into the Twin Towers.

Great! That'll get the public on our side!

No it won't.

It won't?

No, we did a poll. Apparently the public won't be willing to go to war unless the towers ... 'scuse me, I have this in my notes ... ah yes ... unless the towers "collapse symmetrically into their footprint at near free-fall speeds".

What does that even mean?

We don't know for sure, but we've got the guys at NIST working round the clock to find out.

Okay, so let me get this straight. We hijack the planes, we crash them into the Twin Towers ...

No we don't.

We don't?

We want the public to think that planes have hit the towers. I don't see how planes actually hitting the towers would give them that impression. No, we'll use holograms or missiles disguised as planes or something.

OK, I'm getting the picture now. So, we hijack the planes, we hide them somewhere, we project holograms of planes hitting the towers, we do this "symmetrical collapse" thingy --- how do we do that, by the way?

There are several options. Some people say that we should use some sort of death-ray, but me, I want to use good old-fashioned explosives.

What's wrong with the death-ray?

It doesn't exist. So, I suggest that we inconspicuously wire the buildings with high explosives ...

Inconspicuously?

Yeah. It's OK, I asked Silverstein's permission.

You ... you asked his permission?

I thought it was only polite. Actually, he was very enthusiastic. He says can he personally give the order to blow up WTC 7, he thinks it's ugly.

Sure, why not? Heck, he can have the architect whacked too for all I care.

And he wants to brag about his role in the conspiracy on television.

No problem ... oh, hang on, remind me. The planes are meant to hit WTC 1 and 2, yeah? Why are we blowing up WTC 7?

We did a survey asking people whether the total destruction of two world-famous skyscrapers 110 storeys tall would impress them any, and 57% replied "Not unless a 47-storey building I've never heard of collapses at about the same time".

Fine, democracy is about giving the people what they want. So, to recap: we plant explosives in the Twin Towers, WTC 7, and any other structure that Larry Silverstein has a grudge against, we hijack some planes, we hide them, we project a hologram of the planes hitting the towers, Larry blows up the towers, he might need some firemen to help him, make a note of it ... and then we pin the blame on the Iraqis. Yes?

No, we blame a bunch of Saudis.

Geopolitics always gets me confused. Why do we blame the Saudis?

Well you see ...

[At this point, the tape becomes completely inaudible for about thirty seconds.]

Oh I see! Well, if that don't beat all for cunning. So, we plant the explosives, we hijack the planes, we hide them, we make with the holograms, Larry Silverstein blows up the towers, we pin the blame on some Saudis ... and then we invade Iraq?

No, then we invade Afghanistan. The reason is complex, so I wrote it down on this bit of paper.

Now where are my glasses? ... OK, let's have a look.

[Sound of pages turning.]

Mmm ... mmm-hmm ... my word, I never knew that about camels, good grief, you live and learn ... yes, you've hit the nail on the head there. Afghanistan it is, then. And you're sure no-one will ever find out about this?

With respect, Mr President, I'm sure that lots of people are going to find out about this.

And what are we going to do about that?

We're going to close our eyes and wish real hard that by some wild coincidence no-one who suspects the truth will have the expertise necessary to prove it.

[JamesB]

George: OK, I am following you on this whole wiring the three buildings for explosives, err... termites...

Anonymous aid: Thermite, sir.

George: Err, thermite. What is this third building again?

Dick: That is World Trade Center 7 George.

George: But why? Oh, nevermind. Anyway, so we are shooting a cruise missile into the Pentagon too. Well I understand how we can pay people off to say they saw a plane, oh a hundred or so. Government employees will do anything for money and a good yearly evaluation, but how are we going to prevent witnesses from seeing the missile that we can't control. I used to be in the Texas Air National Guard, and I am pretty sure that missiles don't look anything like commercial airliners.

Don: We got that covered, sir.

George: You do.


Don: Yes, we have deep cover COINTELPRO operatives in place already. We call it Operation SLC. We are going to pay people to post comments in blogs and YouTube videos...

George: What is YouTube?

Don: It is something Al Gore is working on. Anyway, quit interrupting... This will be making fun of people who think a missile hit the Pentagon and who find out other parts of the operation.

George: You are going to make fun of them? Couldn't we kill them, send them to Alaska or something?

Don: No, we think making fun of them will be enough. It is pretty much what Stalin did to his political enemies.

George: Uhh, OK.

Dick: Tell him about the other part...

Don: Oh yeah, and we also figure out that people will figure out that the towers collapsed just like those buildings you see being demolished in Las Vegas. So we are going to discredit them by infiltrating their ranks and spreading goofy theories.

George: Goofy theories.

Don: Yeah, it is called Operation Wood...

George: Operation Wood, I think I saw that on Pay-per-view at this hotel in Houston once...

Don: Well it is named after this college professor we recruited... Well, nevermind... Anyway we will try and make them think that we blew up the towers with a Star Wars Death Ray.

George: Death Ray?

Don: Yeah, I saw it on the Discovery Channel once. So what we do is...

[TexasJack]

Dick: Don't make the same mistake as Nixon, you know what you have to do.

George: What's that?

Dick: Burn the tapes, or better still, put them in Building 7.

[Trojan]

George: Ok, so when it comes time to invade Iraq, we go with the WMD thing right?

Dick: Yes, we just make the accusation.

George: Why not plant some mustard gas shells, or better yet, fire some off at our troops?

Rummy: Don't make this complicated, the accusation will do just fine.

George: But if we are going to go to all this trouble, why not just complete our story?

Dick: Didn't you learn anything from your father, never finish the story, leave it open ended. That way the world can vilify us after a few years.

George: :boggled:

[Homeland Insurgency]

HA HA HA! sigh...

Well we have some very very funny people here. You guys shouldn't be wasting your talents here where not many people are ever going to be able to appreciate it. You should be in Hollywood writing the next Scary Movie or some other wacky comedy.

I mean you're that good sincerely! barf

I want you all to do me a favor. Pleeeease?

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission. Pitch it to me like I'm a young talented ambitious guy who can be making a boat load of money just being a commercial pilot and convince me that 72 black-eyed virgins is really where it's at. Just as long as I'm dead right?

Come on, come on, let's hear it. I'm laughing already! You're so talented!

Oh yeah set it in a Florida strip-joint where I might be getting cold feet the night before the mission and I'm really really drunk because I'm so committed to Allah! It'll be great!

Oh and don't forget the 99 cent plastic weapons! It'll be such a hoot!

[JamesB]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission. Pitch it to me like I'm a young talented ambitious guy who can be making a boat load of money just being a commercial pilot and convince me that 72 black-eyed virgins is really where it's at. Just as long as I'm dead right?


Why would we do that? None of the hijackers were commercial pilots making boat loads of money. If you would like to know what is used to motivate Islamic terrorists and suicide bombers, there are plenty of books and other materials available on the subject.

[CHF]

I want you all to do me a favor. Pleeeease?

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission.

And then I suppose you'll want another few paragraph on how hundreds of people decided to carry out suicide missions in Iraq and Afghanistan these past seven years.

And how Chechens, Tamils and Palestinians have been doing the same.

And maybe a few lines on the Japanese Kamikaze as well.

Because apparently you find it completely incomprehensible that someone would kill themselves for a cause. It's totally beyond your understanding of the world, politics, war and human psychology.

HI....since you're someone who actually believes this 9/11 nonsense maybe you could give us an idea of how you think the planning stages unfolded.

[Tweeter]

I have said many times that the CIT claimes would make for a great black comedy.
But alas Craig and Aldo share 1 brain cell so they will never realize just how cool this would be if they got a director like Quentin Tarantino to make a blockbuster out of their fantasy.
:D

Or you could always make a comedy out of the OS.
Vt_tv7t79WY

[1337m4n]

And maybe a few lines on the Japanese Kamikaze as well.

Ironically, I am doing a short essay on that for my World Civilization class. Perhaps I should post it for HI when I am done?

[1337m4n]

Ooh! Ooh! Someone do one on crashing 93 and/or a missile and/or a drone into a completely empty field in the middle of nowhere!

[funk de fino]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission. Pitch it to me like I'm a young talented ambitious guy who can be making a boat load of money just being a commercial pilot and convince me that 72 black-eyed virgins is really where it's at. Just as long as I'm dead right?


As posted in another thread, very easy to find suicide bombers.

The numbers in Iraq alone are breathtaking: About 400 suicide bombings have shaken Iraq since the U.S. invasion in 2003, and suicide now plays a role in two out of every three insurgent bombings. In May, an estimated 90 suicide bombings were carried out in the war-torn country -- nearly as many as the Israeli government has documented in the conflict with Palestinians since 1993

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/16/AR2005071601363.html

[twinstead]

Did I read that right? Is Homeland Insurgency doubting anybody can be 'talked into' being a suicide bomber? Please tell me I just need to get my glasses cleaned.

[Dr Adequate]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission. Pitch it to me like I'm a young talented ambitious guy who can be making a boat load of money just being a commercial pilot and convince me that 72 black-eyed virgins is really where it's at. Just as long as I'm dead right?

Come on, come on, let's hear it. Even if I could convert you to a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam in two paragraphs, I wouldn't. You're quite crazy enough.

Oh yeah set it in a Florida strip-joint where I might be getting cold feet the night before the mission and I'm really really drunk because I'm so committed to Allah! It'll be great!

Oh and don't forget the 99 cent plastic weapons! It'll be such a hoot! What are you raving about? Are you feeling quite well?

[funk de fino]

Oh yeah set it in a Florida strip-joint where I might be getting cold feet the night before the mission and I'm really really drunk because I'm so committed to Allah! It'll be great!


Except none of the hijackers were in a strip ar the night before the attacks and none were drunk the night before. You just keep throwing out falsehoods hoping no-one will notice eh?

[Trojan]

Cheney: Oh, we almost forgot about the American heroism angle.

Bush: What?

Rummy: Yeah, we need some sort of American hero story to emerge from this.

Bush: Can’t we just glorify all the emergency workers that will get caught in the towers when we blow them up:

Cheney: George, the code word for that operations is “Pull it” - get used to it, we even made Larry memorize it, and that was not easy.

Rummy: So anyway, we need the heroism angle … I got it, we add a forth plane, the last one of the day to go down.

Cheney: Yeah, we have the passengers storm the cabin after they hear about the hijacking, the Towers and the Pentagon. The plane goes down into some back-water town, in an open field. We don’t even need a plane, just have an A-10 drop a bomb and blow a big hole in the ground.

George: But how will the passengers know if the hijackers take over the plane?

Rummy: That’s easy, cell phones - we have them calling their loved ones, getting the news, real emotional stuff.

George: But how do we fake that? Do cell phones even work from planes these days?

Cheney: Doesn’t matter, again George, all we need is the story, fact and reality to not have to play into any of this.

Rummy: Actually I think they do work, but that’s besides the point. You see, the NSA has this huge data base of every call ever made, we just cherry pick some conversations a few passengers had from that and let HAL do the rest.

George: Hail?

Rummy: No HAL - our special artificial intelligence voice synthesizer. It can duplicate anyone’s voice who every made a phone call and carry on an intelligent conversation just like it’s the real person.

Cheney: And we need some catch phrase, like remember Pearl Harbor, but something appropriate to the event.

George: I know, “pull it”!!

Rummy: Are you sure you’re not adopted?

Cheney: No, something one of the passengers will say - I’ll getting working on it.

George: Ok, this sounds good, gotta roll guys, talk to you soon.

Cheney: Roll, hmm …

[GodisEnergy]

heres one meeting for you


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[GodisEnergy]

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[GodisEnergy]

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[beachnut]

HA HA HA! sigh...

Well we have some very very funny people here. You guys shouldn't be wasting your talents here where not many people are ever going to be able to appreciate it. You should be in Hollywood writing the next Scary Movie or some other wacky comedy.

I mean you're that good sincerely! barf

I want you all to do me a favor. Pleeeease?

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission. Pitch it to me like I'm a young talented ambitious guy who can be making a boat load of money just being a commercial pilot and convince me that 72 black-eyed virgins is really where it's at. Just as long as I'm dead right?

Come on, come on, let's hear it. I'm laughing already! You're so talented!

Oh yeah set it in a Florida strip-joint where I might be getting cold feet the night before the mission and I'm really really drunk because I'm so committed to Allah! It'll be great!

Oh and don't forget the 99 cent plastic weapons! It'll be such a hoot!
Box cutters are not plastic; and you are laughing at the dead now. Good job expert 9/11 truth guy.

Only 4 guys need to know the mission of impacting buildings. Why are you unable to apply that truther logic to the real world and mess this up more?

Jimmy Swaggart, is all I have to say about religious people not doing their best at religion. What a bunch of junk ideas. Using Islam as a reason the terrorist may not go to strip bars is weak; do you have limited experience in this world?
Is your goal to prove you have no evidence to support your ideas on 9/11. You have exceeded your goal.

At least you have zero clue on anything 9/11, and you prove it constantly by presenting pure junk ideas.

The guys were years away from being Commercial pilots, they lacked the skill to fly in the weather, or land large jets, the flying into buildings is as easy as being a truther. But only truthers can't fly into buildings as proven by p4t idiot pilots who in the safety of a simulator failed to hit buildings and tell everyone how they are not as good pilots as terrorist who they apologize for. Why do you apologize for terrorists?

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/subedei11/Ex_sim2-1.jpg
You show a low speed accident and try to make up false ideas about 9/11. If you understood physics you would not make poor posts that don’t make sense. An exercise for aircraft accidents at the Pentagon which is right next to an airport are logical, 9/11 truth is illogical and anti-intellectual. Is this why you were unable to back you junk photos of a Pentagon exercise with text?

[alex04]

Cheney: George, the code word for that operations is “Pull it” - get used to it, we even made Larry memorize it, and that was not easy.


rofl
:D:D:D:D

[parky76]

what would life be like without 9-11 truth?

I'd just be going to more parties and eating out more.

=)

[matt.tansy]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission.
Not all suicide bombers get their motivation from olives.
Copy and paste ttnet.netfast.org/photos/black_tigers.html

[matt.tansy]

Cheney: And when you get the word the operation has started, just sit there like a moron with a confused look on your face.

[Dr Adequate]

Cheney: And when you get the word the operation has started, just sit there like a moron with a confused look on your face. But ... but shouldn't my actions seem decisive, inspiring ... even heroic?

No, the master plan involves you looking like an idiot, sorry. And then you should run away and hide.

From a threat I know doesn't exist?

Yes. Yes, we've been through this, remember?

But ... if I went straight to New York instead of cowering in a bunker against a threat we both know is imaginary, wouldn't that look way more Presidential?

No, we've got Giuliani to do that.

Who?

The guy who's going to fade early in the 2008 Republican primaries, setting up John McCain to lose to our puppet.

Oh yeah. Have we got the Obama 2008 bumper stickers printed yet?

We're still trying to coordinate the bumper sticker messages with his Inaugural Address.

[jhunter1163]

Bush: Hello, Osama? This is George.

Osama: Salaam, George. Death to America! Not you personally, though.

Bush: Ummm, okay. Anyway, Osama, I need a favor. You know, we're doing that whole PNAC thing, and we need a bogeyman. I was wondering if you'd be willing to help us out with that.

Osama: What would I have to do?

Bush: Not much, really. We're thinking along the lines of crashing airliners into the World Trade Center. Have you got anyone who can fly an airliner?

Osama: Well, I guess we could get someone trained.

Bush: While you're at it, could you crash one into the Pentagon too? Rumsfeld wants deniability and what better way to provide it than to crash an airliner into it while he's there?

Osama: Hmmmmm... well, I guess so. Anything else?

Bush: Well, I want to play up the heroism angle. Can you get a fourth crew and have them crash it in a field somewhere? We'll think of something snappy and heroic like "let's go" or something.

Osama: You know, this isn't going to be cheap, George.

Bush: How does $100,000 sound?

Osama: You have got to be kidding.

Bush: Well, we can work on that. Anyway, after you do this for me, I'll plunge the US into two unwinnable wars and declare war on terror. You'll be famous, Osama.

Osama: But everyone in the world is going to want to kill me.

Bush: It'll be great for recruiting, though, won't it?

Osama: I'll never be able to sleep in a bed again. Living in caves gives me hives. *sigh* Let me think about it and get back to you.

Bush: OK. Thanks, Osama.

Osama: 'Bye, George. Death to America! And I do mean you personally.

[GodisEnergy]

Box cutters are not plastic; and you are laughing at the dead now. Good job expert 9/11 truth guy.

Only 4 guys need to know the mission of impacting buildings. Why are you unable to apply that truther logic to the real world and mess this up more?

Jimmy Swaggart, is all I have to say about religious people not doing their best at religion. What a bunch of junk ideas. Using Islam as a reason the terrorist may not go to strip bars is weak; do you have limited experience in this world?
Is your goal to prove you have no evidence to support your ideas on 9/11. You have exceeded your goal.

At least you have zero clue on anything 9/11, and you prove it constantly by presenting pure junk ideas.

The guys were years away from being Commercial pilots, they lacked the skill to fly in the weather, or land large jets, the flying into buildings is as easy as being a truther. But only truthers can't fly into buildings as proven by p4t idiot pilots who in the safety of a simulator failed to hit buildings and tell everyone how they are not as good pilots as terrorist who they apologize for. Why do you apologize for terrorists?


You show a low speed accident and try to make up false ideas about 9/11. If you understood physics you would not make poor posts that don’t make sense. An exercise for aircraft accidents at the Pentagon which is right next to an airport are logical, 9/11 truth is illogical and anti-intellectual. Is this why you were unable to back you junk photos of a Pentagon exercise with text?

heres some typical debunking, the test was because the reagan airport was so close to it they were preparing for an accident..:covereyes

Mascal was amock terrorist contingency exercise not an accidental crash

[dtugg]

So Bill Clinton's Administration actually planned the attack at the Pentagon?

[JamesB]

heres some typical debunking, the test was because the reagan airport was so close to it they were preparing for an accident..:covereyes

Mascal was amock terrorist contingency exercise not an accidental crash

Hey genius, do you even know what MASCAL stands for?

Hint, it is an acronym.

[A W Smith]

heres some typical debunking, the test was because the reagan airport was so close to it they were preparing for an accident..:covereyes

Mascal was amock terrorist contingency exercise not an accidental crash

you lie

The plane crash scenario was never labeled a terrorist attack. the only scenario involving a terrorist incident involved the metro stop. Not a hijacker suicide plane attack.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060502083020/http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html

On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents.

[Trojan]

George: Ok, Larry, all is set for September 11th, did you get double down on the accidental death and dismemberment insurance for the towers?

Larry: Yep, got it all covered, even insured all the surrounding buildings and all. Pulled out the papers this morning to give it the once over one more time, just to make sure. Don't want to pull a dumb move and mess this up.

George: Great, so when this thing is over, don't forget to talk to the press afterward, something thoughtful about the several hundred NYFD guys we are setting up for death. Rudi checked the radios to make sure they would not work, I think Marvin helped him with that.

Larry: No problem, I can pull out some phone numbers and get ready to place the calls to some old friends, maybe even get on some documentary or something. What's the code words again?

George: Hmm :boggled: Oh yeah, let's roll.

Larry: Ok, so after we pull this off you have to stop over for dinner. You coming by car?

George: Yeah, I'll make an appearance at ground zero then meet you for dinner.

Larry: Ok, when you come by with the car, just pull it over to the side and I'll come out.

George: Yep, I'll pull it over and wait for you, see you soon then.

Larry: Man, I am due to make a **** load if we pull it off.

George: Don't worry, Rummy and Dick have it all worked out.

Larry: Ok, gotta roll.

---

George: Pull, roll, :jaw-dropp Oh, **** ... Dick, you there?

[Jonnyclueless]

The plans look great. Send them off to the department of redundancy department.

[gumboot]

Mascal was amock terrorist contingency exercise not an accidental crash


No it wasn't. MASCAL was (surprise surprise) a MASS CASUALTY exercise. They're designed to test command and control response to any sort of event that would produce a large number of casualties. While a terrorist attack might be such an example, the Pentagon MASCAL one used the scenario of an airliner accidentally crashing into the Pentagon. It was considered a realistic scenario on account of the Pentagon's close proximity to a busy international airport.

The thing to remember about a MASCAL is the actual scenario is irrelevant. It's about dealing with lots of casualties, not dealing with terrorists or a chemical spill or a plane crash.

[lee5]

Dick: Ok W, the next phase of the plan is this.... Take one of our remote controlled planes and shoot a missile at it over a rural area, then, we will say it crashed.

W: Why would we shoot down our own "hijacked" plane? Why not just hit the white house? Wouldn't that be more effective in creating "terror"? Why would we lie about it? Wouldn't that make us look good for stopping them?

Dick: Listen, I am running the show here, don't ask so many questions.

W: I know but how will we make it look like it crashed?

Dick: Well, right after we shoot the plane, we will shoot a missile into the ground for the "impact point". Then, our team will rush over to plant plane parts in the hole.

W: :boggled:

Dick: We also got this fancy voice editing software that can mimmick anyone's voice. We will use this to fake cell phone calls from "supposed" passengers to their families and loved ones.

W: Why?

Dick: Because it will make for a good movie.

W: :boxedin:

W: How many people will we kill from the missile?

Dick: Oh, I forgot to tell you, we will unload the passengers in secret and execute them in a secret location.

W: Why not just let them die on the plane?

Dick: Then we would have no use for the faked phone calls. Try to keep up George. geesh

W::boggled:

[PhantomWolf]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission.

They didn't need to be, they had already decided that it was their duty as devout Muslims that they should give their lives in the pursuit of Jihad against Islam's enemies before heading to Afghanistan to train for that. They had thought they would be heading to Chechnya to fight and die against the Russians, instead they were selected to attack the US.

They were simply following in the footsteps of thousands of young muslims who had travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan to fight and die in the name of Islam against the Soviets and Russians since 1979.

[orphia nay]

Great thread, people! :clap: :clap: :clap:


[snip]
Don: No, we think making fun of them will be enough. It is pretty much what Stalin did to his political enemies.

George: Uhh, OK.

[snip]

:big:

[gumboot]

INT. BUNKER - NIGHT

A stone-walled bunker is dimly lit by a single overhead light. Several shadowy figures sit hunched around a long table, each reading through a bound manuscript. After several moments they finish. One of the figures looks up.

VOICE: Alright everyone, you’ve read it right through?

There is a murmur of ascent.

VOICE: Good. Let’s just summarise everything so we know we’re all on the same page. Our objective here, ladies and gentlemen, is to control the world. Now, I’ll admit, that may be a little ambitious, but I think we’ve got a road map here that we can move ahead with. The Company have been very patient with us for the last couple of centuries, but they really want to start seeing some results now. It’s up to us to deliver on their investment. I appreciate that some of you may feel disappointment at your role in this plan. I just want to reiterate that every step is essential. Some of you will be sacrificing your reputations for our goals. I want to assure you that the Company recognizes that sacrifice. Okay, let’s get started, Ronald, you’re up.

An old stern-looking man with dark hair rises to his feet.

RONALD: Yes sir. I’ll be laying the ground work for what a lot of you are going to do later. My primary objective is to secure us peace with the Soviet Union which will open the way for a lot of the changes that are going to follow…


INT. CORRIDOR – SAME

A young figure hurries down a long poorly lit corridor. The figure carries a bundle of documents under one arm.


INT. BUNKER – SAME

RONALD (Cont’d): …and that should pretty much end the Communist Threat which is going to give us the opportunity to refocus the population in another area.

He turns to another suited man at his right.

RONALD (Cont'd):George?

GEORGE: Thanks Ron. I’ll admit I’ve got a pretty easy task in all of this, but it’s going to be a spectacular few years for me.

RICHARD: You’ve only gone one term haven’t you?

GEORGE: That’s right Dick, but it’s a busy one. We’ve got to make it clear the US is top dog with the Communist Threat eliminated, so I’ve come up with a preliminary outline which I think you’ll all like.

RONALD: It’s clever, but I’m not sold on the name. I mean, Desert Mirage? Isn’t that a bit… well, obvious?

GEORGE: People are stupid Ron, you know that. What we really need here is to focus the American People. You’ll see Bill’s got a whole bunch of follow on actions that reiterate the “Desert” theme. We need people to be fixated on that part of the world. People hear “Desert”, we want them to think Arabs and Oil, and American Imperialism. Basic word association.

RONALD: No, I get that. But “Mirage”? I mean, won’t people suspect it’s fake?

GEORGE: Well that’s the idea. I mean, how are we going to foster anti-war and anti-imperialist sentiment if people think we actually have a justified reason for being there?

RICHARD: True, but I think Ron might have a point George. The government should think it’s real, shouldn’t they? I mean, heck, if we call it Operation Desert Mirage our own soldiers are going to start wondering. How about something more warlike?

GEORGE: Alright, I’ll think on it and get back to you. Now, where was I?

RICHARD: Ah, I think Somalia was next?

GEORGE: Right! Okay, so we’ll put guys on the ground a couple of years before to start working on stirring up a famine and some sectarian violence…


EXT. ELEVATOR – SAME

The figure is a young man. He dashes into an elevator and punches a floor number. He taps impatiently on the button to close the door.

YOUNG MAN: C’mon, c’mon!


INT. BUNKER – SAME

GEORGE: …and at that point I’ll end my term and Bill will take over.

WILLIAM: Right-

DONALD: Just a moment Bill, can we go back for a moment? This Somalia thing is pretty ambitious. Are you sure we can pull it off? I mean, won’t people think we’re just there to help people?

GEORGE: Don’t worry, we’ve got it covered. I intend on going in with excessive force. If we can get a couple of good air strikes or something covered in the media we should be able to sell it. Rupert?

A figure stirs across the table.

RUPERT: Just, bomb an entire building complex to take out one scumbag or something, we’ll do the rest. You know, screaming widows, children with missing limbs, exclusive interviews with people made homeless, all that kind of stuff. People lap that up.

VOICE: Time’s running out gentlemen, let’s press on. Bill?

WILLIAM: Thank you. I’ll tie off Somalia so we can trigger this new policy. I was thinking perhaps a big gun battle, some Americans getting killed, the locals venting their hatred, perhaps we could get some coverage of their bodies being dragged around?

RUPERT: Yeah, that would work great! Easy to do and it works wonders.

GEORGE: And it would shatter that whole “Invincible USA” image that we’ve built up.

WILLIAM: Excellent point George. Good, so we’ll pull out of there and get a bit of cold feet about foreign relations and what have you.

RONALD: I’m a bit confused, I thought the plan was to increase our imperialism?

WILLIAM: All in stages, Ron. If you go all out you get a back lash too soon. George will give us a taste, the people will reject it, so I’ll pull them back too far the other way, have folks wringing their hands about some horrible atrocity somewhere which we didn’t stop.

RICHARD: Oh, yeah, we’re still looking for somewhere for that by the way. We’re thinking a country in Africa – somewhere no one has ever heard of so it doesn’t get any press until after the genocide.

WILLIAM: Sounds good. Anyway, so then people are upset about us not doing enough so we trigger this Pearl Harbor-type event and then we’ve gone the combined moral currency of the horror of this attack plus a good decade of guilt about not getting involved. That way we can go much more imperialist the second time and people will think it’s a good thing.

RONALD: Okay, that makes sense.

WILLIAM: Okay, so I’m going to be covering the Company for a lot of the costs of George’s “Desert Mirage” thing – we’re talking extreme slashing of military budgets and that sort of thing. We’ll try degrade our defenses and generally weaken things. The big thing’s going to be trying to convince these new enemies that we’re an easy target.

RONALD: That’s the Arabs?

GEORGE: That’s right. After my war we’re anticipating a lot of anti-American sentiment in the Middle East but that’s wasted capital if they think we’re too strong to be harmed.

WILLIAM: We’re bound to get a few attacks, but if my response to them is sufficiently ineffective it’s going to encourage more, and that’s really what we’re after.

William looks troubled.

WILLIAM: Sir, I'm just a bit worried, won't those weak attacks make me look a bit, well, bad?

VOICE: Don't sweat it. We'll leak a story about an intern giving you a blow job or something and the whole thing will be ignored. Men all over the country will think you're great.

WILLIAM: Oh. That sounds alright. So tell me more about this intern... will I actually get to-

VOICE (interrupting): Let's focus Bill. We can hammer out the details later. Alright, let’s get to the meat of the operation, Junior?

The eyes at the table collectively turn to the one empty chair.

RONALD: Where is he?

GEORGE: Dammit, I told him to be here at 6. I even got him out of bed any everything!

WILLIAM: Are you sure your son’s up to this?

Abruptly the door to the bunker bursts open and the young man stumbles into the room. He slips and spills his collection of documents all over the floor.

JUNIOR: Sorry!

He bends down and quickly pulls them together, hurrying to the front of the room.

JUNIOR: Sorry I’m late, I was still working on a few finishing touches to…

GEORGE: Son, just calm down and show us what you have.

Junior moves around the table distributing a document.

JUNIOR: Alright this is what I’ve been working on. It’s a bit rough, but I think it’s coming together.

Richard opens the document and whistles.

RICHARD: You’re asking for a lot of money here Junior. I mean, I understand this is the key stage of the operation, but… does this amount of money even exist?

VOICE: Oh yeah, it exists.

JUNIOR: Okay, now as you know my job is to…

He picks up a pieces of paper and reads hesitantly.

JUNIOR (Cont’d): Facilitate a substantial terror attack that galvanizes public support, and then init… initiate an imperialistic campaign of aggression.
(pause)
That means let the Terrorisers attack us then I go attack the Terrorisers. Then folks will like me so much they’ll make me president for life.

VOICE: And we’ll control the world.

GEORGE: Okay son, let’s see what you’ve got for this attack.

Junior pulls out an enormous sheet of paper and pins it to the wall. It is covered in a disjointed, confused array of diagrams and arrows, like a schizophrenic flow chart.

RONALD: What the hell is that?

JUNIOR (proudly): I call this the Big Wedding!

RICHARD: Jesus! You better explain it boy.

JUNIOR: Alright. My plan is going to begin by selecting three civil American airliners at random and swapping them in mid-flight with holographic cruise missiles…


INT. BUNKER – HOURS LATER

Junior is continuing with his convoluted plan while the others watch on. Some of them have glazed expressions, others are asleep.

JUNIOR (Cont’d): And then once the cruise missile hologram has passed north of this little petrol station here it will shoot up and over the Pentagon at the exact same time as a huge explosion.

There is a long silence.

Richard flicks back through Junior’s document.

RICHARD: I’m not sure about this Junior, I mean, have you really thought this through? Can you even use this thermite stuff to blow up a building?

JUNIOR: I know it has a few holes in it, but it’ll work, I just know it. And then once it’s all done I’ll invade Europe!

RONALD: Er… what?

George stands up quickly.

GEORGE: That’s great son, you’ve got a good plan worked out, now we need to discuss a few things so why don’t you head on out and get some lunch, I’ll see you back at home.

JUNIOR: Yes dad.

Junior dejectedly packs up his wall chart and slumps out of the room.

For long moments the figures around the table just look at each other.

GEORGE: I’m sorry. I thought he was ready.

DONALD: This is insane. I mean, did you hear what he was talking about? Voice morphing? Holograms? Remote controlled airliners? I mean, sure, we’re talking 20 years from now, but still… I mean my guys are only just starting to get their head around stealth technology.

RONALD: This is a disaster. We’re going to have to start again from scratch. I’m sorry George, but your son isn’t up to this.

VOICE: Let’s not be so hasty. His idea isn’t entirely without merit.

RUPERT: Sir? With all due respect, the most wackjob writers I’ve got working in Hollywood couldn’t come up with a plot so ridiculous.

VOICE: The concept is sound. Four simultaneous airliner hijackers, enormous skyscrapers destroyed, the effect would be… substantial. Add a stirring story of passengers on a fourth aircraft vainly rising up against the attackers and you've got an open cheque book for invading whoever you want to pin it on. But it needs simplification. Terrorists. A suicide attack. No explosives, no planted witnesses. We just need to find some people crazy enough to do it, with a little push in the right direction… Dick?

RICHARD?: Yes sir, I might have a solution. We’re been working with some Islamic Radicals in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Now these guys are totally insane for their God, Abba, or something, they call him. Oh, and they're big on martyrdom.

WILLIAM: That would compliment the whole Desert-Arabs-Oil theme we're going to have going in the 1990s.

GEORGE: Sir this doesn’t really address the main problem. I love my son, but he’s no Alexander the Great. The world isn’t going to rally around him.

VOICE: You’re right George. But after an attack of that magnitude we could probably pick up enough moral currency to run roughshod over the entire planet for two terms before the tide turned. I want Junior to conduct the most bumbling, incompetent, overbearing and heavy-handed administration this country has ever seen.

WILLIAM: Domestic spying?

VOICE: Exactly.

RICHARD: Mangled speeches and incoherent babbling in public?

RONALD: Torture?

DONALD: A couple of messy, costly, and unpopular imperialistic wars with no end in sight?

VOICE: Precisely!

RUPERT: Perhaps a natural disaster or two?

VOICE: I like your thinking! And to finish it all off, a financial crisis to rival the depression.

George rises to his feet.

GEORGE: But sir, my son will be the most hated President in history!

VOICE: I’m sorry George. You know we all have to make sacrifices. It’s for the greater good. He’ll be compensated.

George lowers himself back into his chair, weary and defeated.

GEORGE: Yes sir. I’ll try to make him understand.

WILLIAM: Okay, so where does that leave us? It’s...
(counts quietly for a moment)
...2008, the entire planet hates America, the constitution is in tatters, and the economy on the brink of ruin. Then what?

The figure at the head of the table laughs softly to himself and stands. He is still draped in shadows.

VOICE: And then, my friends, a new, fresh face emerges to run for the Presidency. Someone decisive and new, with only a short political career. Someone… different. There needs to be something about them that marks a new era for the United States. A hero. A shining light for the entire world to rally around and cheer. After eight years of abuse and disaster, they’ll be welcomed with open arms.

GEORGE: Where are we going to find someone like that?

The figure leans forward into the light. He is a young African-American man, in his late teens. He grins, showing perfect white teeth. He is Barack.

BARACK: I know just the man for the job.


EXT. VACANT BUILDING LOT – LATER

The members of the meeting walk together out of the hollow shell of a half built building and divide apart, making for cars parked haphazardly in the yard.

Richard walks alongside Barack.

RICHARD: I still have reservations sir, this plan of Junior’s, it’s… a liability.

BARACK: That’s why I’m putting you alongside him, Dick. You’ll be his running mate.

RICHARD: Me sir? I’m honoured.

BARACK: Keep him in line, you understand.

RICHARD: Yes sir, I won’t let you down.

BARACK: I know you won’t. We won’t even have to conquer the world, with this new plan they’ll hand it to us on a platter. They’ll be cheering my name right up until the moment the fleet arrives in orbit.

Richard nods to Barack and heads off for his car. Barack stands motionless a moment, lost in thought. A noisy fly buzzes past his head. Suddenly the young man turns his head and a long lizard-like tongue darts out of his mouth, catching the insect in midair. He hungrily swallows the fly and walks away.

FADE OUT

[GStan]

:yahoo :clap: :yahoo :clap: :yahoo

Well done sir, very well done.

[gumboot]

Bump because I liked it...

[dtugg]

Bump because I liked it...

Actually, that was great. Apparently, I missed it somehow.

Nominated.

[PhantomWolf]

I might have added a little about Junior's plan being useful for something and getting in contact with a few university professors that he knows......

[Corsair 115]

Write a couple paragraphs on how these 19 young men were talked into a suicide mission.You are aware that the Japanese were able to convince thousands of young men to become kamikaze pilots, yes?

[gumboot]

I might have added a little about Junior's plan being useful for something and getting in contact with a few university professors that he knows......

:D

[jhunter1163]

Bravo, Gumboot.

[portlandatheist]

I laughed...I cried!

[PhantomWolf]

:D

Okay so my ending would be a little more like this.....

EXT. VACANT BUILDING LOT – LATER

The members of the meeting walk together out of the hollow shell of a half built building and divide apart, making for cars parked haphazardly in the yard.

Richard walks alongside Barack.

RICHARD: I still have reservations sir, this plan of Junior’s, it’s… a liability. You know he's not the brightest bulb in the shed, people might be suspicious if he does something, or says something wrong.

BARACK: You have a point...

They stop walking and Barak pulls out the original plan Junior provided and quickly thumbs through it.

BARACK: You know, this stuff could really come in handy after the attack. If we get those that realise it was too convenient for us to start looking in the wrong places....

RICHARD: Oh, come on sir, I mean I know you are brilliant, but not even the stupidest people on Earth are going to fall for that stuff. Thermite? Lasers form Space? The top section of buildings bouncing off the bottom one? I know we have degraded the education system to the point of nothing, but do you really think anyone would believe this stuff?

BARACK: Your faith in humanity is misplaced, trust me, I think I even know exactly the right University Professors to use for this.

RICHARD: Very well sir, you have my total confidence. Now we just have to make sure that Junior doesn't slip up too badly.

BARACK: That’s why I’m putting you alongside him, Dick. You’ll be his running mate.

RICHARD: Me sir? I’m honoured.

BARACK: Keep him in line, you understand.

RICHARD: Yes sir, I won’t let you down.

BARACK: I know you won’t. We won’t even have to conquer the world, with this new plan they’ll hand it to us on a platter. They’ll be cheering my name right up until the moment the fleet arrives in orbit.

[Spektator]

That needs to be made into a sitcom so it can later be remade as a hit movie! And then Mel Brooks could turn it into a Broadway musical!

[realitybites]

Gumboot, let me know when you start casting for that.