Crimes by air marshals raise questions about hiring

[Galileo]

Crimes by air marshals raise questions about hiring

By Michael Grabell, ProPublica

Shawn Nguyen bragged that he could sneak anything past airport security using his top-secret clearance as a federal air marshal.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-11-12-air-marshals_N.htm

This is the front page, lead story of the USA Today, today.

If anyone is wondering how guns or special commando agents or patsies or poisonous gas or people dressed up like Arabs, or whatever happened on the planes on 9/11, now you know.

If it is an inside job, its easy.

Just ask Shawn Nguyen.

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[Galileo]

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[Nyarlathotep]

(Insert Snarky Comment About Claus Here)

[Nyarlathotep]

Crimes by air marshals raise questions about hiring

By Michael Grabell, ProPublica

Shawn Nguyen bragged that he could sneak anything past airport security using his top-secret clearance as a federal air marshal.

READ THE REST:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-11-12-air-marshals_N.htm

This is the front page, lead story of the USA Today, today.

If anyone is wondering how guns or special commando agents or patsies or poisonous gas or people dressed up like Arabs, or whatever happened on the planes on 9/11, now you know.

If it is an inside job, its easy.

Just ask Shawn Nguyen.

Yeah, because the fact that someone abused his security clearance TOTALLY proves 9/11 was an inside job.:rolleyes:

[dudalb]

God, this is dumb, even for a twoofer.

[Galileo]

Yeah, because the fact that someone abused his security clearance TOTALLY proves 9/11 was an inside job.:rolleyes:

your logic doesn't follow.

[Galileo]

God, this is dumb, even for a twoofer.

pretty dumb to think that criminals with security clearances could pull off a hijacking. Yep!

[Nyarlathotep]

pretty dumb to think that criminals with security clearances could pull off a hijacking. Yep!

Presumes that criminals with a security clearance pulled off a hijacking.

[Nyarlathotep]

your logic doesn't follow.


Golly, you think so? Imagine responding with sarcasm to a post that is a roughly 50/50 mixof non-sequitur and question begging and the logic not following. What ever are the odds?

[Galileo]

Presumes that criminals with a security clearance pulled off a hijacking.

Exactly. You would need security clearance to brings guns onto an airplane. You would need guns to pull off a clean, quick hijacking, especially when the pilots received an advance warning on three flights.

[Galileo]

Golly, you think so? Imagine responding with sarcasm to a post that is a roughly 50/50 mixof non-sequitur and question begging and the logic not following. What ever are the odds?

In your other post, your logic did not follow. In this post, it has fallen into a deep abyss.

[Nyarlathotep]

Look up the phrase 'begging the question' then get back to me and tell me if you can spot the logical fallacy in your implications.

[1337m4n]

In close, cramped quarters, I don't see how a gun is any more effective than a knife.

[quixotecoyote]

There's only one possible solution to seeing an armed man on the plane, marshal or not.

[Lonewulf]

There's only one possible solution to seeing an armed man on the plane, marshal or not.Duck?

[SezMe]

Duck?
Pidgeon?

[KoihimeNakamura]

No, Eagle.

[WildCat]

If anyone is wondering how guns or special commando agents or patsies or poisonous gas or people dressed up like Arabs, or whatever happened on the planes on 9/11, now you know.
Did any of that happen on 9/11 Galileo?

And what's with the "people dressed up like Arabs" bit?

[Ysidro]

Did any of that happen on 9/11 Galileo?

And what's with the "people dressed up like Arabs" bit?

Duh, don't you know the TROOTH!? Those weren't Arab hijackers, those were J00S!!!!!! Oh excuse me, "Israelis".

Or so say some CT types. I'm sure their theories also involve air marshals, guns, and drug use. Maybe also planning by Disney. Not sure.

[Galileo]

Look up the phrase 'begging the question' then get back to me and tell me if you can spot the logical fallacy in your implications.

What implication are you talking about? This isn't a game.

[Galileo]

In close, cramped quarters, I don't see how a gun is any more effective than a knife.

If that's true, bring a knife to your next gunfight.

[Ausmerican]

If that's true, bring a knife to your next gunfight.

If the gunfight is in a phonebooth I'd be happy to. Or in any other cramped small space.

[Nyarlathotep]

What implication are you talking about? This isn't a game.

The implication that it was government agents (or some other sorts with security clearances) that pulled off the 9/11 hijackings.

You are starting from a conclusion, that people with a security clearance pulled of 9/11, then fishing about for evidence to support your conclusion. This is completely Bass Ackwards from the proper way to prove a point, since you don't have any evidence to support the very conclusion that you started with.

As I said, look up the phrase "begging the question", you are doing it from post #1.

[Nyarlathotep]

If that's true, bring a knife to your next gunfight.


Luckily fot the knife weilding hijackers (and unluckily for everyone else involved) hijacking an airplane is not a gunfight.

[dudalb]

You are starting from a conclusion, that people with a security clearance pulled of 9/11, then fishing about for evidence to support your conclusion. This is completely Bass Ackwards from the proper way to prove a point, since you don't have any evidence to support the very conclusion that you started with.

Oh, standard operating procedure for a 9/11 Truther. Start with the premise that 9/11 was an inside job, then reject all evidence that conflicts with that, and make up evidence that does.

[joobie]

If that's true, bring a knife to your next gunfight.

i'll just pull a james coburn on them.*







*see the magnificent seven

[Nyarlathotep]

Oh, standard operating procedure for a 9/11 Truther. Start with the premise that 9/11 was an inside job, then reject all evidence that conflicts with that, and make up evidence that does.

True, sometimes I forget the degree of mental gymnastics Twoofers and other whakos will go to to justiffy thier delusions.