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The Silver Shadow
17th November 2008, 09:13 AM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

Is this another evolution for making tuition money? What I mean is that I know some girls at my university who are strippers and make a good chunk of money to pay their tuition in one night through tips and other things, is this going to be another take-off of that?

madurobob
17th November 2008, 09:46 AM
I just don't understand people's obsession with virginity. Meh - I much prefer someone experienced. Still, if someone wants to auction theirs off - fine. Caveat emptor.

And strippers earning money for tuition? Um, yeah, that's what they all say. "I'm not one of them, I'm just slumming here to pay for medical school." I have to believe that since so many strippers say this it must be because it earns them higher tips when they do.

Meadmaker
17th November 2008, 10:12 AM
She says she is willing to take a medical exam to prove her status so, for the sake of argument, let's say she is what she claims.

I can think of a few different scenarios why an attractive, 21 year, women's studies major would remain a virgin until that relatively advanceid age, but then be willing to end her abstinence in a night of prostitution, but the most likely of those scenarios, to me, is that she is a lesbian.

Whatever the reason for her decision to sell, more power to her for realizing that she has a marketable "asset" which is of no value to her, but great value to someone else. At least, I hope that's the scenario here. I would hate to think that she remained abstinent for all this time for some highly significant personal reason, but is now willing to give that up just because she sees no alternative method of making money.

Jaggy Bunnet
17th November 2008, 10:24 AM
The skeptic in me says "publicity stunt" for the brothel involved.

Mince
17th November 2008, 10:26 AM
Massive "roll-eyes". Where does she get the idea that her virginity is worth much? She's not that great looking, her virginity is not guaranteed and, doubtlessly, you'll have to tolerate her bimbo-speak.

Edges
17th November 2008, 11:02 AM
Where does she get the idea that her virginity is worth much?

That's what I thought. According to this site (http://www.medindia.com/news/lifestyleandwellness/Auction-Your-Virginity-and-Make-a-Fortune-42484-1.htm), she's holding out for a million. I think someone who could afford that pricetag would be able to get a virgin for less than that considering that rich men attract women like garbage attracts flies.

It does sound a lot like a publicity stunt, although the link I provided gives examples of two other examples of girl's auctioning their virginity (one backed out, the other is a devout catholic who has apparently decided to bank on her reality tv fame).

WildCat
17th November 2008, 12:02 PM
Whatever the reason for her decision to sell, more power to her for realizing that she has a marketable "asset" which is of no value to her, but great value to someone else.
You have 2 extraneous letters on the word in quotes.



;)

Safe-Keeper
17th November 2008, 12:05 PM
She's a prostitute who's too classy to stand there freezing on street corners, so she decides to make one of those ingenious "who'd have thought of that" snatches on E-Bay instead. Soon she'll be $50 000 richer and her call girl friends will be blue with envy. And cold.

:p

King of the Americas
17th November 2008, 12:23 PM
I did a virgin, back in high school, and it didn't cost me a dime.

In retrospect, I'd have paid if she demanded cash.

That said, the encounter is one I remember MUCH more vividly than any of the others I had. To be someone's 'first', and know it...is like giving an important speech, that people are bound to remember and talk about.

It wasn't about how tight she was, or that I was looking to gratify myself through someone else's pain. It was about permenatly implanting yourself onto someone's memory.

EVERYONE remembers their 'first' time. And I remember feeling this pressure to 'do good', by her. I even went so far, as to quary a couple of other girls, as to what their first time was lacking, and how their partner could have made it 'better', or even perfect.

In the end, I did a good job, and the girl in question still looks at me with dreamy eyes, every time I see her.

I definetely recommend it, if you haven't tried it, yet.

To auction it off, seems like a smart thing to do, which this girl ISN'T doing. She isn't just looking for the highest bidder. She is instead interviewing potential John's who are or would be willing to pay top dollar.

I think that would be better than getting de-flowered, in the back of a Buick, drunk on wine coolers, to a sweaty fumbling boy who might also be a virgin.

2 virgins...that shouldn't happen to anyone!

plumjam
17th November 2008, 12:40 PM
I did a virgin, back in high school, and it didn't cost me a dime.



Sounds like a Johnny Cash lyric.

madurobob
17th November 2008, 02:44 PM
It wasn't about how tight she was, or that I was looking to gratify myself through someone else's pain. It was about permenatly implanting yourself onto someone's memory.

Exactly. why would anyone want to do that - to pay money for the opportunity? Its bizarre.

King of the Americas
17th November 2008, 02:53 PM
Exactly. why would anyone want to do that - to pay money for the opportunity? Its bizarre.

Well, when you are 'good' at something, don't you want people to remember it?

To have someone witness your talent, and be able to recall it, for the rest of their lives...

Who doesn't want that?

If a tree falls in a forrest, and there is no one around to hear it, did it make a sound?

casebro
17th November 2008, 03:32 PM
Sounds like a Johnny Cash lyric.

and it didn't cost me a dime.
She's now 48,49,50,51....

The bigger parts in a motor home...

Yup, lots of Johnny in those lifetime memories.

casebro
17th November 2008, 03:36 PM
But just across the border, in Tijuana, virgins are only $50.

At least that's what her cousin Julio tells me.

casebro
17th November 2008, 03:46 PM
I'm wondering of the OP is really doing research for some kind of paper? She seems to be interviewing more than she is putting out.

But while on the subject of hymens, I've heard that not all virgins have them. Do hymens dissolve as the girls mature, or as they entertain themselves, or are they optional equipment? The virgin I had, was intact. And I'm sure it was as memorable for her as it still is for me.

King of the Americas
17th November 2008, 03:59 PM
I'm wondering of the OP is really doing research for some kind of paper? She seems to be interviewing more than she is putting out.

But while on the subject of hymens, I've heard that not all virgins have them. Do hymens dissolve as the girls mature, or as they entertain themselves, or are they optional equipment? The virgin I had, was intact. And I'm sure it was as memorable for her as it still is for me.

Hymens can be ill-formed, absent, or damaged by masturbation, tampons, or even riding the wrong shaped bicycle seat (so I've heard).

Not all virgins have intact hymens.

However, most non-virigns no longer visibly intact hymens.

(*I am not an gyno doc, just someone who walks tenderly, where none have tread.)

bignickel
17th November 2008, 05:34 PM
If she says 'no' right before they're about to do it...

is it Breach of Contract?

For Lack of Breach?

EeneyMinnieMoe
17th November 2008, 06:06 PM
EVERYONE remembers their 'first' time. And I remember feeling this pressure to 'do good', by her. I even went so far, as to quary a couple of other girls, as to what their first time was lacking, and how their partner could have made it 'better', or even perfect.

In the end, I did a good job, and the girl in question still looks at me with dreamy eyes, every time I see her.

I definetely recommend it, if you haven't tried it, yet.

...

I think that would be better than getting de-flowered, in the back of a Buick, drunk on wine coolers, to a sweaty fumbling boy who might also be a virgin.

2 virgins...that shouldn't happen to anyone!

The first time I did it, it was to someone older and much more experienced than I was and, in retrospect (allthough it's hard to say with these things), I wish it was with someone who had the same previous track record as I did. I felt more than a little used by the person.

As for the quality, alot of women report that their first time was unforgettable, yes, but very bad. There's hardly a way it wouldn't be clumsy and awkward, when you've just begun to learn.

It sounds very cynical to say but I agree. This way, at least she gets something out of it- giving it away for free is much cheaper and crummier.

quixotecoyote
17th November 2008, 06:16 PM
Hymens can be ill-formed, absent, or damaged by masturbation, tampons, or even riding the wrong shaped bicycle seat (so I've heard).

Not all virgins have intact hymens.

However, most non-virigns no longer visibly intact hymens.

(*I am not an gyno doc, just someone who walks tenderly, where none have tread.)

Some women also have the unfortunate experience of not having their hymen completely gone/broken even after multiple experiences, making sex a mysteriously unpleasant circumstance until they figure it out.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080707174620AATeO3o

madurobob
17th November 2008, 06:20 PM
Well, when you are 'good' at something, don't you want people to remember it?

To have someone witness your talent, and be able to recall it, for the rest of their lives...

Who doesn't want that?

If a tree falls in a forrest, and there is no one around to hear it, did it make a sound?

Actually - no. When I'm good at something I don't care if anyone notices. Its when I'm not sure if I'm good or not that I really need outside assurance.

Leaving a lasting impression on a virgin? That's as easy as waking up in the morning. leaving a lasting impression on a experienced broad who knows what she's doing? That's a skill.

"Broad".. how rarely it is one gets to use that word!

The Central Scrutinizer
17th November 2008, 09:41 PM
It sounds like this scheme was snatched out of thin air.

Puppycow
17th November 2008, 10:17 PM
Caveat emptor.

Yep. Men can be very, very dumb when they think with their little head.

ImaginalDisc
17th November 2008, 10:17 PM
She says she is willing to take a medical exam to prove her status so, for the sake of argument, let's say she is what she claims.

There's no medical exam that can establish a woman is a virgin.

tyr_13
17th November 2008, 10:22 PM
I'm one of those, "one should only pay for sex with love," types personally. But I don't doubt that there are many morons out there who will use this to say something about the 'sad decline' of society or some crap like that.

To me it's just one more woman who I don't want to sleep with because of a personal difference.

marting
17th November 2008, 10:42 PM
Hmm, I wonder if she might get a "Women's Studies" thesis out of it if her "interviews" are done appropriately.

NobbyNobbs
17th November 2008, 10:50 PM
If she says 'no' right before they're about to do it...

is it Breach of Contract?

For Lack of Breach?

For Lack of Contact.

DC
18th November 2008, 03:22 AM
LOL? 1 Million?

for 600.- you can get 2 better looking and far more experianced professional prostitutes.¨

Or is she paying 1 mill so someone will end her virginity?

i am confused.

Zep
18th November 2008, 04:21 AM
Paypal for a playpal pupil makes you perpetually popular.

Expecting the reserve to not be met. :rolleyes:

learner
18th November 2008, 04:22 AM
There's no medical exam that can establish a woman is a virgin.

There is. I know, I used to be a gynaecologist. I still like to keep my hand in occasionally.

ImaginalDisc
18th November 2008, 08:02 AM
There is. I know, I used to be a gynaecologist. I still like to keep my hand in occasionally.

Pun unintentional?

Cuddles
18th November 2008, 09:15 AM
And this is news? Prostitution is often refered to as the oldest profession for a reason. Whether that's actually true or not, it's certainly pretty damn old. The fact that she's an expensive prostitute and advertises on the internet is hardly original either. Was this next to the "Dog bites man" article, or are some people actually trying to pretend this is something unusual?

King of the Americas
18th November 2008, 09:50 AM
Paypal for a playpal pupil makes you perpetually popular.

Expecting the reserve to not be met. :rolleyes:

Perfectly premeditated plural pun performance...

learner
18th November 2008, 09:51 AM
Pun unintentional?

:)

King of the Americas
18th November 2008, 10:00 AM
The first time I did it, it was to someone older and much more experienced than I was and, in retrospect (allthough it's hard to say with these things), I wish it was with someone who had the same previous track record as I did. I felt more than a little used by the person.

As for the quality, alot of women report that their first time was unforgettable, yes, but very bad. There's hardly a way it wouldn't be clumsy and awkward, when you've just begun to learn.

It sounds very cynical to say but I agree. This way, at least she gets something out of it- giving it away for free is much cheaper and crummier.

I was by no means, "an over-experienced slut" when I was invited to partake in this girl's first time. That said, I DID very much want to go into the experience fully informed.

The end result was successful, 'twice'. :)

And 'that' I understand is very rare, for a first time.

I think it is interesting how a woman's virginity is something to be cherished, sought, and evne 'paid' for, while a young man's virginity is hardly ever even mentioned...

No beautiful older woman chased after 'me' trying to open my champaign, for the first time. I'd have gladly open myself up for bidding...

Ivor the Engineer
18th November 2008, 10:27 AM
<snip>

I think it is interesting how a woman's virginity is something to be cherished, sought, and evne 'paid' for, while a young man's virginity is hardly ever even mentioned...

I mention it every chance I get.

No beautiful older woman chased after 'me' trying to open my champaign, for the first time. I'd have gladly open myself up for bidding...

I tried, but EBay doesn't support negative bids.

King of the Americas
18th November 2008, 10:52 AM
Actually - no. When I'm good at something I don't care if anyone notices. Its when I'm not sure if I'm good or not that I really need outside assurance.

Leaving a lasting impression on a virgin? That's as easy as waking up in the morning. leaving a lasting impression on a experienced broad who knows what she's doing? That's a skill.

"Broad".. how rarely it is one gets to use that word!

And Micheal Jordan wouldn't want anyone to show up to the NBA finals series...

Leaving a 'good' lasting impression on ALL of my lovers, is always the goal, sure.

madurobob
18th November 2008, 01:07 PM
And Micheal Jordan wouldn't want anyone to show up to the NBA finals series...

Of course he would - because he's competing with the best in the world. Michael would not, however, show up for a one-on-one match with me. The outcome is a foregone conclusion and the challenge nonexistent.

Mark6
18th November 2008, 01:27 PM
There is one thing about this whole nonsense I am absolutely certain, and several I find very likely.

Certain:

Nobody will actually pay her $1 million to screw her

Likely:

She will appear on Oprah
She will have a book deal
Bunny Ranch will get a lot of publicity, and probably more business

Less likely:

She is doing this as a part of her thesis on "feminist studies"[1]
She will STAY on Bunny Ranch

[1]Quotations because any academic discipline with word "studies" in it I consider a fraud

ConspiRaider
18th November 2008, 01:53 PM
There's no medical exam that can establish a woman is a virgin.
Really? I'd like to take a crack at it, then, via Variable Voluminous Virginal Vetting. Do they have schools for that? I know they have 4-H schools, what about 4-V? Can I get an honorary degree and practice until they grade my paper?

Skeptic Ginger
18th November 2008, 02:23 PM
Not that I care but isn't prostitution illegal in CA? Can you advertise for NV prostitutes from CA?

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 02:32 PM
Not even original

This Pommy chick (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/3554121.stm) scored 8400 pounds sterling for her hymen.

Ivan.....

I see an engineer paid up to do the deed.

Next time, I want to see a bloke auctioning his virginity and see if women really are as dumb as men.

Ivor the Engineer
18th November 2008, 02:51 PM
Not even original

This Pommy chick (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/3554121.stm) scored 8400 pounds sterling for her hymen.

Ivan.....

I see an engineer paid up to do the deed.

Next time, I want to see a bloke auctioning his virginity and see if women really are as dumb as men.

I remember seeing her on Richard and Judy (a lightweight chat show). Silly cow.

Just to inform everyone, a "BT engineer" is an engineer in title only. A more accurate title would be "BT technician".

rjh01
18th November 2008, 03:59 PM
You can have surgery to "repair" a broken hymen. I can just imagine it.
1. A woman sells her virginity
2. Has this surgery to "repair" the broken hymen.
3. Goes to step 1.

OK females, anyone want to do it?

Maus
18th November 2008, 04:15 PM
Why would someone pay for something that all women have, or have had in their life?

Why would someone think this is a rare thing to pay a lot of money for?

-Maus

Beerina
19th November 2008, 08:16 AM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

It's her body and her reproductive organs. Sell away!

casebro
19th November 2008, 09:16 AM
It's her body and her reproductive organs. Sell away!

Hmmm, according to the logic used to legalize abortion - a woman's right to privacy- then how can prostitution be illegal? And, obviously, men have that same right, so 'purchasing privacy' ought to be ok too.

And, shouldn't a fathers right to privacy include "legal male abortion" too? Birth records ARE public. So are child support court orders. Hmmm....

Skeptic Ginger
20th November 2008, 07:20 PM
It dawned on me this woman may just be looking for that sugar daddy to pay her college way to protect this innocent desperate woman from giving up her chastity. Men like to rescue damsels in distress. Could be a very clever ploy. Smart but rather conniving woman.

PhantomWolf
21st November 2008, 12:18 AM
If I was a really evil bugger with a lot of money I'd buy it and not collect just to teach her a lesson... mwhahahahaha.

autumn1971
21st November 2008, 12:33 AM
If I was a really evil bugger with a lot of money I'd buy it and not collect just to teach her a lesson... mwhahahahaha.
If you were a bugger, you wouldn't technically be doing the deed you paid for, would you?

JoeyDonuts
21st November 2008, 12:40 AM
I think the transaction would say a hell of a lot more about the buyer than the seller. If I was to place an eBay listing for a "full-force punch in the trachea (running start optional)" and start the bidding at $500,000 the guy who bought it would be the moron, not me. Of course comparing deflowering a virgin to a throat shot is a little fallacious. Unless of course your first time was like mine. No lights, totally confused, and a whole lot of "OW! OWWWW!!! WTF ARE YOU DOING!"

Fortunately, that's why we have things like experience and pornography. You'd almost never know I was a confused fumbling teen at one point. Thank you to Vivid Pictures and the relatively small list of conquests I've had to hone my skills, so to speak.

PhantomWolf
21st November 2008, 02:54 AM
If you were a bugger, you wouldn't technically be doing the deed you paid for, would you?

I think you'll find that, that is a buggerer. ;)

For those outside the area known as downunder, and bugger is slang for a bit of a shifty, untrustable person, unless they're a good bugger, in which case they're a top-notch bloke. Confused?

bigred
21st November 2008, 07:18 AM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

Is this another evolution for making tuition money? What I mean is that I know some girls at my university who are strippers and make a good chunk of money to pay their tuition in one night through tips and other things, is this going to be another take-off of that?

I'm so shocked this happened in California.

Just another swirl as we continue our societal flush down the toilet - yawn

Cainkane1
21st November 2008, 07:28 AM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

Is this another evolution for making tuition money? What I mean is that I know some girls at my university who are strippers and make a good chunk of money to pay their tuition in one night through tips and other things, is this going to be another take-off of that?
The young lady is being very foolish. This will have an extremely negative effect on her career when she graduates and the story will follow her to her grave.

Beerina
21st November 2008, 08:48 AM
Hmmm, according to the logic used to legalize abortion - a woman's right to privacy- then how can prostitution be illegal?

Because people pick and choose their philosophies based on the goal they want, arrived at for reasons that have nothing to do with any logic.

If said philosophies conflict, ah well. The goal is power, and the political narratives (memes) that support it don't care. They "reproduce" by achieving election.

Beerina
21st November 2008, 09:02 AM
Let's see now.

8400 pounds = $12,409.70, more or less, as of today.


Pretty Baby (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078111/)'s virginity was bought for something like $400 in 1917.

The CPI for 1917 was 11.7. For October 2008, it was 216.573 (actually down 2 from July!) This is an inflation multiplier of 216.573 / 11.7 = 18.5.


So $400 in 1917 New Orleans = $7,404 in today's dollars.

So the price has gone down by about $5k, although deflowering a 12 year (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078111/plotsummary) vs. an 18 year old presumably carries an additional premium to the bidding.

The Atheist
21st November 2008, 10:45 AM
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think this is a great idea.

First off, the girls need to be educated on the value of a hymen early on.

Smart young women wanting to set themselves up with cash for university will fly to Alaska, or a country with a lower consent age to maximise the profits.

What do you reckon a 16-year old hottie would get? I bet Dakota Fanning would generate millions. Why sit on a valuable asset like that only to [usually] throw it away on some teenage punk for free?

One way around the housing bust, go long on virgins.

El Greco
21st November 2008, 10:52 AM
From the article:

Dylan earned her bachelor's degree in women's studies from Sacramento State and plans to get her master's at the school beginning in January.

Are we sure this isn't her thesis or something ? :D

On a related note, how much should I ask for MY virginity ?

Mark6
21st November 2008, 12:29 PM
Are we sure this isn't her thesis or something ? :D

That was one of my guesses

On a related note, how much should I ask for MY virginity ?

You are a young male in Greece? Hmm, there are some potential assets here...

Bobert
21st November 2008, 02:15 PM
Something seems very very fishy about this story.

Meadmaker
21st November 2008, 08:02 PM
The young lady is being very foolish. This will have an extremely negative effect on her career when she graduates and the story will follow her to her grave.

She's a Women's Studies major. She won't have a career.

Bob Blaylock
22nd November 2008, 01:50 AM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

Is this another evolution for making tuition money? What I mean is that I know some girls at my university who are strippers and make a good chunk of money to pay their tuition in one night through tips and other things, is this going to be another take-off of that?


Somewhere else, it was mentioned that she's majoring in marriage and family counseling. I have to think that this is a poor choice. I know that if I was having problems in my marriage, such that I was to seek counseling, the very last person I would take seriously as a credible source for understanding and solving such issues would be a prostitute. A healthy marriage is based on moral and ethical values that one would have to be completely lacking in order to be a prostitute.

quixotecoyote
22nd November 2008, 09:34 AM
Somewhere else, it was mentioned that she's majoring in marriage and family counseling. I have to think that this is a poor choice. I know that if I was having problems in my marriage, such that I was to seek counseling, the very last person I would take seriously as a credible source for understanding and solving such issues would be a prostitute. A healthy marriage is based on moral and ethical values that one would have to be completely lacking in order to be a prostitute.

If your marriage was in trouble, my money would guess that the reason was this high-horse self-righteousness that precludes looking at people as people.

But that's just one person's take.

WildCat
22nd November 2008, 01:33 PM
Something seems very very fishy about this story.
I don't see anything about it on the web site for the Bunny Ranch.

Morrigan
24th November 2008, 02:59 PM
Funny thing about marriage counselors. If they've never been married, they don't know anything about it and can hardly give sound advice. If they've been married just once, their marriage experience is limited - what works for them may not work for others. But if they got married several times, obviously they don't know about having a successful marriage! :D

The Atheist
24th November 2008, 03:12 PM
If they've never been married, they don't know anything about it and can hardly give sound advice.

That's why Catholic priests do so well at marriage counselling. Just one more thing they know nothing about.

gumboot
24th November 2008, 03:31 PM
There's hardly a way it wouldn't be clumsy and awkward, when you've just begun to learn.

If the guy is experienced, what would it matter? I mean, girls just lie there during sex, don't they? :confused:





:boxedin:

The Atheist
24th November 2008, 10:45 PM
If the guy is experienced, what would it matter? I mean, girls just lie there during sex, don't they? :confused:

Is she English?

Mark6
25th November 2008, 07:28 AM
Funny thing about marriage counselors. If they've never been married, they don't know anything about it and can hardly give sound advice. If they've been married just once, their marriage experience is limited - what works for them may not work for others. But if they got married several times, obviously they don't know about having a successful marriage! :D

Evidently, the way to be a good marriage counselor is to have a successful marriage, then quit it -- strictly for career purposes. Do it three or four times, and presto -- you are a GREAT marriage counselor! And no one can question your dedication to your job!

Ivan The Song Boy
25th November 2008, 11:08 AM
I just don't understand people's obsession with virginity. Meh - I much prefer someone experienced. Still, if someone wants to auction theirs off - fine. Caveat emptor.

And strippers earning money for tuition? Um, yeah, that's what they all say. "I'm not one of them, I'm just slumming here to pay for medical school." I have to believe that since so many strippers say this it must be because it earns them higher tips when they do.

For what it's worth, I knew a place in Lansing Michigan and at least half the young women there were paying their way through school. Some of the prettiest women I've ever seen, very smart, some making 70 or 80 grand per year taking their cloths off.

This can end badly though. I've seen a few go into bad drug use, and even prostitution.. So, all due caution.

Smiledriver
25th November 2008, 06:36 PM
I remember some girl attempting this once on ebay before and one guy I knew started an auction for a 25 year old Phillipino male who will take your virginity. Bids got up to like 22 bucks. Good times.

Almo
26th November 2008, 07:36 AM
[1]Quotations because any academic discipline with word "studies" in it I consider a fraud

So my wife's bachelor's in American Studies is a fraud? It was a combination history and literature degree. Hardly seemed like a fraud to me.

Ausmerican
26th November 2008, 09:10 AM
I don't see the big deal. It doesn't matter if you lose your viginity, as long as you keep the box it came in. But really for what this girl could end up getting for it I hope the buyer realises he could've got several experienced girls that were just as attractive. Several at the same time even.

Mark6
26th November 2008, 09:57 AM
So my wife's bachelor's in American Studies is a fraud? It was a combination history and literature degree. Hardly seemed like a fraud to me.

Perhaps not, but why isn't it called American History and Literature?

Mind you, I never heard of American Studies degree and therefore can not judge, but every other "studies" department I had seen was basically a mutual adoration and self-victimization society.

Puppycow
15th January 2009, 12:46 AM
Latest offer: $3.7 million (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/natalie-dylan-auctions-of_n_157329.html)

:faint:

WTF?

A fool and his money. . .

(This auction sure is lasting a long time. I have to give her credit for cleverness. She's getting lots of press coverage, too, which must be a big help.)

slingblade
15th January 2009, 01:20 AM
I don't see anything about it on the web site for the Bunny Ranch.

I've a close friend who used to work at the Bunny Ranch.

From what I've heard from her about Dennis Hof, his involvement in this...well, let's just say "publicity stunt" isn't beyond thought.

Blah blah, anecdotal, blah. :p

Number Six
17th January 2009, 10:26 AM
I'll be curious to see if someone really pays $3.7 M for that. Are they obligated to pay it if they win the auction.

Think about it for a minute...if you were a guy with $3.7 M who wanted sex wouldn't it make more sense to just flaunt your wealth and then take your pick of the many women such flaunting would attract? Not only would it enlarge your field to choose from but also it would be less like prostitution than just spending $3.7 M to buy someone.

Kthulhut Fhtagn
17th January 2009, 01:40 PM
I just don't understand people's obsession with virginity.


Me neither...if I was gonna pay top dollar to have sex with a woman I'd rather have a "looser" woman who knows what she's doin'. My advice to men paying for virgins it to take that money and spend it on a few cheaper women who've been around the block.

These women are the ultimate capitalists.

Kthulhut Fhtagn
17th January 2009, 01:51 PM
I'll be curious to see if someone really pays $3.7 M for that. Are they obligated to pay it if they win the auction.

Jesus Christ! 3.7 million?! I'm in the wrong profession, clearly...and gender.

I assume that if s/he renigs on the payment the next highest bid takes it...or she could continue the auction and see how much more she gets. If she actually gets this much she's set for life, nevermind college.

I think this is a pretty clear sign of how badly people want sex. I actually am now curious as to how much people will pay for porn if they auctioned copies off rather than used set prices. Maybe that's what the prostitution industry needs to do if someone ever mans-up and legalizes it.

I can honestly say I can't imagine paying this much for sex, she's a very attractive woman but 3.7m? She needs to get a job in marketing...

gdnp
17th January 2009, 08:26 PM
Me neither...if I was gonna pay top dollar to have sex with a woman I'd rather have a "looser" woman who knows what she's doin'. My advice to men paying for virgins it to take that money and spend it on a few cheaper women who've been around the block.

I've often felt the same way about those terrorists expecting their 30 virgins in heaven. If I'm going to be there for eternity, can I at least have a few women who can teach me a few things?

Would it be racist to speculate whether the 3.7 million offer is coming from the middle east.

Sounds like a good opportunity for some church to put their money where their mouth is. Buy this poor wayward girl's virginity for a pledge that she wait until marriage.

BTW, how will she prove that she's a virgin?

billydkid
18th January 2009, 02:16 PM
All I feel is envy over the fact that I have nothing anyone would pay me anything for, let alone millions. Apparently, any young, attractive, virginal female is sitting on a gold mine and could be set for life if they chose to be. If I had such an option available to me I wouldn't think twice.

shuttlt
18th January 2009, 02:36 PM
If it's up to anything like 3.7 million then it's turned into a farce. If she manages to collect it then she should get the Randi's Million as well because it can only have been through paranormal means.

Puppycow
18th January 2009, 03:40 PM
Apparently, any young, attractive, virginal female is sitting on a gold mine and could be set for life if they chose to be.

Be skeptical. First, we aren't even sure that it's a legit offer. Second, the only way she could do this is with the help of the global media, which hyped the story. When copycats try to replicate it, it will rapidly lose its news value.

Slimething
18th January 2009, 04:30 PM
Could be a very clever ploy. Smart but rather conniving woman.

She's not a nice girl, at least according to Benny Hill. Benny Hill's definition of a nice girl is "one who won't take money for it". Badum-dum.

CORed
18th January 2009, 05:46 PM
All I feel is envy over the fact that I have nothing anyone would pay me anything for, let alone millions. Apparently, any young, attractive, virginal female is sitting on a gold mine and could be set for life if they chose to be. If I had such an option available to me I wouldn't think twice.

If this sort of thing becomes commonplace, most likely the price will come down. Supply and demand, you know.

ponderingturtle
19th January 2009, 08:35 AM
All I feel is envy over the fact that I have nothing anyone would pay me anything for, let alone millions. Apparently, any young, attractive, virginal female is sitting on a gold mine and could be set for life if they chose to be. If I had such an option available to me I wouldn't think twice.

Not really. In this thread there were previous women who did this and got about $10,000.

It is media and supply and demand. IF there are many women selling their virginity the price would go down, as there can not be a high demand for million dollar hymens.

I Ratant
19th January 2009, 09:54 AM
"The sadder but wiser girl for me"
Professor Howard Hill.

Patsy
19th January 2009, 11:50 AM
It's her body and her reproductive organs. Sell away!

It seems a bit of an improvement over the old way of her papa giving it away to the best match for the family interests, anyway.

JFrankA
19th January 2009, 12:46 PM
What's the big deal?

Seems to me that what she is doing is no different than the women who "save themselves" until marriage.

....hey, the price tag for the guy is about the same..... :D

Puppycow
2nd February 2009, 01:50 AM
Why I'm Selling My Virginity

by Natalie Dylan (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-23/why-im-selling-my-virginity/)

They say you should value having sex for the first time. That’s why I’m auctioning my virginity online—and the bidding is up to $3.8 million.

When I put my virginity up for auction in September, it was in part a sociological experiment—I wanted to study the public's response. Now it seems that the tables have turned, and the public is studying me.

I’m a 22-year-old woman who recently earned her Bachelor’s Degree in Women’s Studies, and soon I’ll be entering a Masters Degree program in Marriage and Family Therapy. During the time in between, in addition to my regular 9-to-5, I’ve been exploring my upcoming thesis project: the value of virginity. To be more specific, I’ve put my own virginity up for auction on the Moonlight Bunny Ranch website, and I recently received my highest bid so far: a cool $3.8 million.

Isn't that neat! She's doing it all for science. It's "a sociological experiment."
:D

Well, apparantly this thing is still going on, and someone topped the last bidder.

JFrankA
2nd February 2009, 03:13 AM
Why I'm Selling My Virginity

by Natalie Dylan (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-23/why-im-selling-my-virginity/)



Isn't that neat! She's doing it all for science. It's "a sociological experiment."
:D

Well, apparantly this thing is still going on, and someone topped the last bidder.

Hey, some people lose their virginity for less admirable reasons......

Puppycow
20th May 2009, 07:27 AM
I'm thinking this is taking too long to be real. I mean, if there was really a $3.8 million offer in February, she would have been crazy not to take it while the offer was still on the table. I mean, what happens if the guy comes to his senses?

And there's no time limit. The auction seems to be going on indefinitely. So I no longer believe they are even being honest about this. I predict she won't even get anywhere near $1 million in the end.

Beerina
20th May 2009, 09:30 AM
I'm thinking this is taking too long to be real. I mean, if there was really a $3.8 million offer in February, she would have been crazy not to take it while the offer was still on the table. I mean, what happens if the guy comes to his senses?

And there's no time limit. The auction seems to be going on indefinitely. So I no longer believe they are even being honest about this. I predict she won't even get anywhere near $1 million in the end.


Interesting choice of words.

Ashles
20th May 2009, 02:59 PM
I'm thinking this is taking too long to be real.
I hope she didn't get drunk one night and give it away for a lot less than £3.8 million.

Talk about regretting it the next morning...

Dorian Gray
20th May 2009, 08:25 PM
I've had sex with two virgins (different times). Not very good. Lots of "owwww, that hurts", not so much "Oh, oh OHHHHHH!". Very annoying. I couldn't enjoy myself, they couldn't enjoy themselves, it just wasn't that great.

I guess what I'm saying is I'd rather have a reasonably experienced woman than a virgin or a huge whore. Somewhere in the middle. That's the sweet spot, so to speak.

Typicallucas
20th May 2009, 08:41 PM
There is a difference between never having had sex and being virginal. I would not consider this little prostitute a virgin, I would say she hasn't had sex yet.

The distinction of being the first of many to have sex with this girl is a dubious honor and hardly worth purchasing.

slingblade
21st May 2009, 05:15 AM
There is a difference between never having had sex and being virginal. I would not consider this little prostitute a virgin, I would say she hasn't had sex yet.

The distinction of being the first of many to have sex with this girl is a dubious honor and hardly worth purchasing.


So how much was your bid? You can tell us. :p

Typicallucas
21st May 2009, 02:27 PM
1,000 Liberian Dollars :o

The Don
21st May 2009, 02:46 PM
In Europe the price is apparently 10,000 Euro

According to the Daily Mail (not the most reliable of sources)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173164/Pictured-The-teenager-auctioning-virginity-9-000-fund-education.html

Scootch
21st May 2009, 03:06 PM
I wonder if you could get a certificate of authenticity with it.

Erigena
21st May 2009, 03:22 PM
According to a report on CBS, a graduate student is selling her virginity to pay for her tuition.

Link (http://cbs5.com/education/virginity.auction.tuition.2.814410.html)

What do you guys think of this?

Is this another evolution for making tuition money? What I mean is that I know some girls at my university who are strippers and make a good chunk of money to pay their tuition in one night through tips and other things, is this going to be another take-off of that?
I don't see much difference in this and women who sleep with guys for the material stuff they get in return. Either way they're pimping themselves out. As far as whether or not it's right, consenting adults should have the right to make their own decisions.

The only problem I have with it is it sends a negative message to young girls. They shouldn't view their body as though they have a price tag attached to it, but that has more to do with parenting.

JFrankA
21st May 2009, 04:18 PM
I don't see much difference in this and women who sleep with guys for the material stuff they get in return. Either way they're pimping themselves out. As far as whether or not it's right, consenting adults should have the right to make their own decisions.

The only problem I have with it is it sends a negative message to young girls. They shouldn't view their body as though they have a price tag attached to it, but that has more to do with parenting.

I completely agree with you here. In fact, I'll go further and say that whole "no sex until married" stance is prostitution at it's worst.

To me, to make a commitment that supposed to last a lifetime, in which all moneys and properties are shared, without first knowing that they are sexually compatable or even knowing their own individual sexuality is an extermely gigantic price.

Puppycow
11th May 2010, 12:29 AM
Update: the $3.8 million guy "pulled out" (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_k55XGltT62orPA7aGBRCdJ;jsessionid=7A75E5079E9 1A53D71A50B177B1B54E9) in late May last year. (His wife didn't like the idea for some reason).

According to her wiki page, she claimed to be on the verge of selling it for $1 million "in the next few days" last October. No confirmation that this actually happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Dylan

If the auction is still going, it's totally jumped the shark.
Anyone know if this farce ever ended?

UNLoVedRebel
11th May 2010, 04:04 AM
In other news.......http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/may/11/experts-australians-plan-nevada-virgin-auction-cou/

casebro
11th May 2010, 07:00 PM
I've read the link in post 103.

Any body hear of the Man act being enforced lately? What with the feminism rage, and the legality of taking the job in Nevada, would it be enforced in these circumstance?

BenBurch
11th May 2010, 09:25 PM
Brothels have been marketing virgins for centuries...

Not news.

Dorian Gray
12th May 2010, 06:13 PM
The Wiki article says Hof, owner of the Bunny Ranch, would get half of whatever she made. Who would make that deal? It also said her sister used to work at the Bunny Ranch, which is where the connection was made. But again, I'm not selling anything I own only to give someone else half of it. (Getting married isn't selling.)

UNLoVedRebel
12th May 2010, 07:02 PM
I've read the link in post 103.

Any body hear of the Man act being enforced lately? What with the feminism rage, and the legality of taking the job in Nevada, would it be enforced in these circumstance?

Are you talking about male prostitutes working in Nevada? If so, the latest attempt by the Shady Lady was a(nother) failure. The male prostitutes split due to lack of business; they might have one left, but he'll be leaving shortly. Even though she branded her male prostitues as different from the rest, Heidi Fleiss's brainchild was just one more failed attempt at making a business of selling male prostitutes. Female brains don't work like male brains.

NoZed Avenger
13th May 2010, 08:24 AM
I would like to announce that I, too, will be selling off my virginity on eBay.

As part of the deal, I will even travel to you. But it can't be on the first, third, or fifth weekend of the month, because those are the ones I have my kids.

ponderingturtle
13th May 2010, 09:58 AM
The Wiki article says Hof, owner of the Bunny Ranch, would get half of whatever she made. Who would make that deal

Most people. I know we figure a rate of $100 a hour for someone making say $14 an hour for what we bill people. There is a lot of overhead in any business.

Cainkane1
13th May 2010, 10:09 AM
if you own something people will pay big bucks for why not put it up for sale? I'm not sure this woman is doing the right thing but its a free country.

rjh01
15th May 2010, 01:27 AM
So why do not more women sell their virginity? It used to be sold for a ring and a marriage.

Ausmerican
16th May 2010, 05:53 PM
What if you bought her virginity and then never took it? Would she then not have to keep it until such time as you did, if ever?

Just something for the rich and evil to ponder.

dafydd
17th May 2010, 02:58 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/3429769.stm

Tsukasa Buddha
17th May 2010, 06:39 AM
These people are seriously overcharging.

So dumb.

NoZed Avenger
17th May 2010, 08:17 AM
I would like to announce that I, too, will be selling off my virginity on eBay.




UPDATE:

Someone, for the love of all that is just and right, SOMEONE please come and outbid Scrut!!

Donal
17th May 2010, 10:07 AM
I'm just trying to imagine the kind of creep that would pay so much for it.

billw
17th May 2010, 10:54 AM
Most people. I know we figure a rate of $100 a hour for someone making say $14 an hour for what we bill people. There is a lot of overhead in any business.

Q. Why did the cost accountant move out of the Bunny Ranch basement?

A. Too much *********** overhead

jwalker1960
17th May 2010, 12:04 PM
If there is no harm to either party, then I think it's fine. Of course, I supposed that she could be charged with prostitution since she is soliciting sex for money. But, I'm against the illegality of prostitution anyway so I don't hold that against her. It's merely a warning to her.

And to ensure that there is no harm to either party, either condoms should be used or both parties should be tested for STD's before hand, but condoms seems the easier, cheaper and safer route.

As for her selling her virginity, I hope she gets a very good, large price. By the laws of supply and demand, virginity is very hard to come by in a college aged girls these day, so I'd say it was worth a lot. I just hope whoever she finds to lose it to is decent and caring enough to treat her as a woman who deservers a real lover and not some guy who is looking at it as a conquest.

casebro
17th May 2010, 12:23 PM
I don't see much conquest in a 'canned hunt'.

I still suspect her to be doing this as some kind of research. About something to do with "now high will bidding go?" or "What value to we place on virginity?" or interpretation of male vs female sexuality, or the poor treatment that women get, or about the whackos that bid, or....

Rolfe
17th May 2010, 03:33 PM
Maybe she shouldn't wait too long....

Bright nymphs of Britain with graces attended,
Let not your days without pleasure expire.
Honour's but empty, and when youth is ended,
All men will praise you but none will desire.
Let not youth fly away without contenting;
Age will come time enough for your repenting.


Rolfe.