Alex Jones contributing to the atmosphere of hate against Obama

[Thunder]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama%e2%80%99s-intelligence-agenda-more-of-the-same-from-the-%e2%80%9cchange-administration%e2%80%9d.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-civil-defense-program-resembles-domestic-draft.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-first-appointment-is-son-of-zionist-terrorist.html

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM

You know, for someone who seems to be against political assasinations and false-flag attacks, he sure is contributing to the atmosphere of hate surrounding Obama

What will Jones do if Obama is taken out? Yell and scream that it was a false-flag attack? Meanwhile, his accusations of Obama being a Communist and a fascist dictator to-be are just the kind of fear mongering and McCarthyite witch-hunting hatred that just might send some nutcase kid over the line.

Everyone has the right to critisize our leaders (and soon to be leaders), but when you accuse him of being the devil in disguise, dont be shocked when someone takes your words to heart.

Jones and others really need to tone it down.

:mad:

[mrbaracuda]

Uh, as for the last one: This video is not available in your country. D:

[gtc]

He has been saying this about Bush and Co for years (and for all I know about Clinton before that). What makes you think this time is different?

[Thunder]

well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before, and people need to be extra careful about what they say, IMHO.

with white supremacists, islamic-extremists, anarchists, and anti-NWO conspiracy theorists all calling him the devil, the Secret Service definately has their hands full....more then ever before.

by the way, the video does work for me and Im in the USA.

[mrbaracuda]

by the way, the video does work for me and Im in the USA.

Well my country sucks. :(
At least when it comes to that.

[gtc]

well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before...

Evidence?

[Thunder]

http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/11/16/news/doc491e8b78dd26d231021464.txt?redirect=y

there ya go. evidence.

[dudalb]

I am surprised anybody thought that Jones would do ANYTHING responsible. The guy has been making his living off Conspriacy Theories since the Clinton Adminstration. His hatred of Obama should surprise anybody.

[Drudgewire]

He would've been saying the same crap about McCain. Guy's a broken record (a fat broken record).

[yodaluver28]

Jones would be going after whoever won the presidency, but it has been acknowledged by the Secret Service that Obama and his family have received far more death threats than is usually seen in a president elect and everyone knows the biggest reason why. So even though Jones does do this all the time with almost all politicians(especially presidents), there is a far greater chance in this case that his hate mongering crap could help push unstable people who are already furious and paranoid about the election over the edge and into doing something violent with potentially disastrous consequences. That wouldn't make him completely culpable of course, but I do think that under the circumstances, he's being far more irresponsible than usual.

[Thunder]

So even though Jones does do this all the time with almost all politicians(especially presidents), there is a far greater chance in this case that his hate mongering crap could help push unstable people who are already furious and paranoid about the election over the edge and into doing something violent with potentially disastrous consequences. That wouldn't make him completely culpable of course, but I do think that under the circumstances, he's being far more irresponsible than usual.

thats the point im trying to get across.

[Drudgewire]

Oh well, I'm sure if someone explained to Jones how irresponsible he was being he'd stop right away. :rolleyes:

[Alareth]

I *STILL* can't get over the fact that he's younger than me ...

[WildCat]

Uh, as for the last one: This video is not available in your country. D:
It doesn't even have anything to do with Alex Jones. I don't know why parky threw that one in there.

[Thunder]

the video wasnt supposed to be about jones. it was a video posted on prisonplanet.

[Whiplash]

well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before, and people need to be extra careful about what they say, IMHO.


Very idealistic and wonderful, but you realize that this is never going to happen, right?

[mrbaracuda]

It doesn't even have anything to do with Alex Jones. I don't know why parky threw that one in there.
the video wasnt supposed to be about jones. it was a video posted on prisonplanet.

So, any idea what's so bad about the content we Germans need to be protected from it? :rolleyes:

And heey, Whiplash! :D

[Without Rights]

http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/11/16/news/doc491e8b78dd26d231021464.txt?redirect=y

there ya go. evidence.

Actually that says he received more threats than any other President elect, not president.

[dudalb]

Actually that says he received more threats than any other President elect, not president.


I would bet that Old Abe received more, but that was before records were kept.

[DC]

So, any idea what's so bad about the content we Germans need to be protected from it? :rolleyes:

And heey, Whiplash! :D

Wahrscheinlich weil alte Nazi Propaganda drin ist.

[Ohnoes]

Everyone has the right to critisize our leaders (and soon to be leaders), but when you accuse him of being the devil in disguise, dont be shocked when someone takes your words to heart.

I have run across this situation myself recently. I have a friend who about a year ago got really into AJ and started buying up his videos and watching stuff online and really getting into the "TRUTHER" mode. I gave the stuff a peek and honestly I just assumed he was fear mongering to sell videos and didn't give it much more thought (Guess that is the fluoride telling me to ignore "The Truth"). I figured it would pass as he goes through these phases, but right after the election he referred to Obama as "The Devil". I then proceeded to ask why he would say that? I was then pointed to Infowars and gave a it a quick look and while the "reports" there are amusing at best the comments sections really blew me away.

I won't go into detail as I imagine a couple of you have probably seen the site, but it really goes back to what you are saying about people taking this stuff to heart. I just never thought someone I knew would really go that far and it's kinda scary.

BTW I'm new here so sorry to fill up the room with my noob stench :boxedin:

[Thunder]

Wahrscheinlich weil alte Nazi Propaganda drin ist.

auf Englische, bitte.

[gtc]

'Probably because [of] the old Nazi propaganda in it.'

Is my interpretation of what google says it means.

[moon1969]

Alex Jones is just paranoid. Alex Jones is just like Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Vladimir Zhirinovsky even said that Obama is the american version of Mikhail Gorbachev.

[Brainster]

Jones would be going after whoever won the presidency, but it has been acknowledged by the Secret Service that Obama and his family have received far more death threats than is usually seen in a president elect and everyone knows the biggest reason why. So even though Jones does do this all the time with almost all politicians(especially presidents), there is a far greater chance in this case that his hate mongering crap could help push unstable people who are already furious and paranoid about the election over the edge and into doing something violent with potentially disastrous consequences. That wouldn't make him completely culpable of course, but I do think that under the circumstances, he's being far more irresponsible than usual.

It has not been acknowledged by the Secret Service. The article linked by Parky specifically states:

The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president’s security is so sensitive.

[Horatius]

I have run across this situation myself recently. I have a friend who about a year ago got really into AJ and started buying up his videos and watching stuff online and really getting into the "TRUTHER" mode. :



Buying videos is bad enough. You want to see what I found out an old friend of mine is doing these days?


http://www.conspiracycards.com/


I feel a bit sick every time I think about it. I just hope he's only in it for the money.....

[fullflavormenthol]

Oh lets be honest here. If by some weird twisting of reality had Ron Paul became president Alex Jones would be calling him a would be dictator and a facist, etc. Alex needs to be able to point to someone and declare them a boogy man in order to get the sales he needs to support himself.

[sleeplessdwarf]

Look at it this way Horatius, at least the graphics are eye catching. :D

[MaGZ]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama%e2%80%99s-intelligence-agenda-more-of-the-same-from-the-%e2%80%9cchange-administration%e2%80%9d.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-civil-defense-program-resembles-domestic-draft.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-first-appointment-is-son-of-zionist-terrorist.html

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM

You know, for someone who seems to be against political assasinations and false-flag attacks, he sure is contributing to the atmosphere of hate surrounding Obama

What will Jones do if Obama is taken out? Yell and scream that it was a false-flag attack? Meanwhile, his accusations of Obama being a Communist and a fascist dictator to-be are just the kind of fear mongering and McCarthyite witch-hunting hatred that just might send some nutcase kid over the line.

Everyone has the right to critisize our leaders (and soon to be leaders), but when you accuse him of being the devil in disguise, dont be shocked when someone takes your words to heart.

Jones and others really need to tone it down.

:mad:

The people need to know the truth about Obama. The media failed to do their job so it is up to others like AJ to pick up the slack.

[Thunder]

The people need to know the truth about Alex Jones.

[Arus808]

the people need to learn to ignore people like alex jones

[Skeptic]

[Quote]well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before, and people need to be extra careful about what they say, IMHO.[/Qoute]

No, they don't.

Just because Obama is hated by some nutcases hardly means people's freedom of speech should be curtailed.

It doesn't matter if people "need to be extra careful" about what they say about Obama because otherwise they'll be arrested, or because otherwise they'll be sued for libel, or because otherwise they'll "bear the moral guilt" for a possible assassination. In all cases the result is the same: thou shall not criticize Dear Leader.

To clarify: there certainly isn't any evidence Obama himself thinks "people need to be extra careful" about what they say about him, lest his precious personal safety be jeapordized. But, in the unlikely case he does think this, his assassination would be no great loss--who needs a cowardly wannabe dictator as president?

[Horatius]

Look at it this way Horatius, at least the graphics are eye catching. :D



Oh, yes, I've never had any complaints about his artistic abilities. He's at least the second best professional artist I know personally.

I just have to wonder what the hell happened to him after he moved the the US.

[Thunder]

[quote]well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before, and people need to be extra careful about what they say, IMHO.[/Qoute]

No, they don't.

Just because Obama is hated by some nutcases hardly means people's freedom of speech should be curtailed.

It doesn't matter if people "need to be extra careful" about what they say about Obama because otherwise they'll be arrested, or because otherwise they'll be sued for libel, or because otherwise they'll "bear the moral guilt" for a possible assassination. In all cases the result is the same: thou shall not criticize Dear Leader.

To clarify: there certainly isn't any evidence Obama himself thinks "people need to be extra careful" about what they say about him, lest his precious personal safety be jeapordized. But, in the unlikely case he does think this, his assassination would be no great loss--who needs a cowardly wannabe dictator as president?

i don't believe that freedom of speech should be cracked down on, because of Obama. but I do think people should think about what they say, before they LIE about Obama.

[Ivan The Song Boy]

The people need to know the truth about Obama. The media failed to do their job so it is up to others like AJ to pick up the slack.

I'm new here as well.. And I wont apologize for one moment for looking to see what THIS person believes he's saying. I can't wait, in fact. I see we have an Alex Jones "Fan" in the house..

Well, smart one.. Do tell. Please take the time to enlighten the class. What is this great knowledge that Mr. Jones harbors? Please be specific, I didn't sign up here to read the same old crap. If you are going to support such a man, I would suggest you come armed to the teeth with page after page of his "good Deed's"..

Where WOULD we be without Alex Jones? Oh My!!

" well, the muffler bearing's on both jets were tampered with by little orange space people who have been kidnapped by the government.. "

Right? Right.

[Chaos]

[quote]well, the major difference is, is that obama has more threats against him then any President before, and people need to be extra careful about what they say, IMHO.[/Qoute]

No, they don't.

Just because Obama is hated by some nutcases hardly means people's freedom of speech should be curtailed.

It doesn't matter if people "need to be extra careful" about what they say about Obama because otherwise they'll be arrested, or because otherwise they'll be sued for libel, or because otherwise they'll "bear the moral guilt" for a possible assassination. In all cases the result is the same: thou shall not criticize Dear Leader.

To clarify: there certainly isn't any evidence Obama himself thinks "people need to be extra careful" about what they say about him, lest his precious personal safety be jeapordized. But, in the unlikely case he does think this, his assassination would be no great loss--who needs a cowardly wannabe dictator as president?

If you honestly think that what Obama is facing right now is criticism, you will NEVER understand what´s wrong with it.

[Brainster]

If you honestly think that what Obama is facing right now is criticism, you will NEVER understand what´s wrong with it.

Did you read the linked articles in the OP? They are kooky, but they are criticism.

I don't buy the notion that people have to tone down their criticism of Obama because hate groups are attacking him for his race. And I say that as somebody who has found very little to criticize about Obama thus far.

[Chaos]

Did you read the linked articles in the OP? They are kooky, but they are criticism.

I don't buy the notion that people have to tone down their criticism of Obama because hate groups are attacking him for his race. And I say that as somebody who has found very little to criticize about Obama thus far.

But do you also not buy that "Obama is a secret muslim who is out to destroy America" is not simple, honest criticism? Or "Obama is palling around with terrorists"?

[Travis]

Buying videos is bad enough. You want to see what I found out an old friend of mine is doing these days?


http://www.conspiracycards.com/


I feel a bit sick every time I think about it. I just hope he's only in it for the money.....

Amusing that Tesla is amongst the mosaic of evil.

[Drudgewire]

But do you also not buy that "Obama is a secret muslim who is out to destroy America" is not simple, honest criticism? Or "Obama is palling around with terrorists"?

Welcome to politics. :rolleyes:

[JihadJane]

with white supremacists, islamic-extremists, anarchists, and anti-NWO conspiracy theorists all calling him the devil, the Secret Service definately has their hands full....more then ever before.



Still searching for your killer twoofer, parky76? Keep going; by law of averages you should find one eventually. Then, after your little victory dance, you can start hunting down the twoofer militia! But watch out! They've got nookla bombs.

[Thunder]

Still searching for your killer twoofer, parky76? Keep going; by law of averages you should find one eventually. Then, after your little victory dance, you can start hunting down the twoofer militia! But watch out! They've got nookla bombs.

ok, great. hope that works out for ya!! take care now.

[Brainster]

But do you also not buy that "Obama is a secret muslim who is out to destroy America" is not simple, honest criticism? Or "Obama is palling around with terrorists"?

I did not say it was honest criticism; I pointed out that it was kooky. But criticize the dishonesty/kookiness, not the criticism.

[funk de fino]

Still searching for your killer twoofer, parky76? Keep going; by law of averages you should find one eventually. Then, after your little victory dance, you can start hunting down the twoofer militia! But watch out! They've got nookla bombs.

The hypocrisy, it burns.

[Thunder]

Still searching for your killer twoofer, parky76? Keep going; by law of averages you should find one eventually. Then, after your little victory dance, you can start hunting down the twoofer militia! But watch out! They've got nookla bombs.

you may be right. harrasing people over the internet and by ambushing them on the street may be all you folks can do.

:D

[Chaos]

I did not say it was honest criticism; I pointed out that it was kooky. But criticize the dishonesty/kookiness, not the criticism.

Dishonest criticism is dishonesty, not criticism, and thus is not legitimate the way honest criticism is. It is an abuse of free speech, much like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.