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Mr Manifesto
3rd November 2003, 10:31 AM
What is this lunatic (http://www.timecube.com/) ranting about?

I'm sorry. This gets bandied around a lot. But I want answers. I can't understand a damn thing this nutball is on about. I'd like to think that when people get fundamental physics wrong, I can at least see how they made the mistake... But this is simply insane. I can't take it any more...

Nyarlathotep
3rd November 2003, 10:40 AM
It's Gene Ray, the Time Cube guy! Gene Ray makes your average run of the mill kook seem rational. He is the uber-kook.

No one knows what he's on about, not even himself I suspect. Of course I may just be brainwashed by the non-cubic evil educational system.

He is a prime example of what happens when someone with schizophrenia figures out how to design a web page.

Ratman_tf
3rd November 2003, 11:16 AM
YOU WERE ALL EDUCATED STUPID!

Dancing David
3rd November 2003, 11:51 AM
Seems to be your average ' magical thinking', he says that since the prime meridian is a great circle it divides the world in two and it is logical to have another meridian half way, therefore there are four conrners to the round earth and four days in a rotation, but then he denies any further subdivision.

Pretty standard stuff for psychosis and drug use.

Zep
3rd November 2003, 12:22 PM
It all makes sense to ME...

:wink8: :wink8: :wink8:

Checkmite
3rd November 2003, 12:50 PM
Hey stupid - are you too
dumb to know there are
4 different simultaneous
24 hour days within a
single rotation of Earth?

http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/otn/realhappy/xxrotflmao.gif

sackett
3rd November 2003, 01:24 PM
Gene Ray: his orbit is NOT near-earth. I once tried to correspond with him, having found his site through Quintessence of the Loon. Ray is a poor lost soul, strayed from the laughing academy and trying to find his way back.

Corey
3rd November 2003, 02:01 PM
I think he sums it up for us right here, right at the top of the page...


My wisdom so antiquates known knowledge, that
a psychiatrist examining my behavior, eccentric
by his academic single corner knowledge, knows
no course other than to judge me schizoprenic.


Been lurking for a long time, but I couldn't resist this.

Goshawk
3rd November 2003, 02:30 PM
Ah ha! So now we know--what does it take to drag Corey out of the safe darkness of lurkerdom and into the light of registration? Nothing less than The Time Cube Guy.

You are one tough nut, Corey. But we finally cracked you. Welcome to JREF. :D





Crank dot net not only has The Time Cube Guy ("Illucid"), it also has parodies, and the infamous MIT Lecture.

http://www.crank.net/timecube.html

Corey
3rd November 2003, 02:49 PM
There have been more than a few threads that I thought about posting in...but this was just too much to resist. I'm sure I'll probably post a lot more in the future now that I've crossed the line, heh. Thanks for the welcome.

jj
3rd November 2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
What is this lunatic (http://www.timecube.com/) ranting about?

I'm sorry. This gets bandied around a lot. But I want answers. I can't understand a damn thing this nutball is on about. I'd like to think that when people get fundamental physics wrong, I can at least see how they made the mistake... But this is simply insane. I can't take it any more...

As I said the last time I pointed him out, I have no idea.

It's, well, unusual. Very unusual, in fact.

Checkmite
3rd November 2003, 07:51 PM
You know, if you digest all this garbage in smaller bytes, it becomes nearly coherent.


Time Cube has the answer for nuclear waste problem. Scientists are stupid asses, and ignore the Time Cube.

:o It's all so clear now...


Integration is a racial slop, destroying all of the races. What is more racist than NAACP? Can there be a NAAWP, NAAAP and a NAAIP for the white, the asian and indian people? Why not integrate NAACP? What is racist and unracist? Linear Time is an 'evil lie'.

Note how the concluding sentence is carefully supported by the premise...


Religious education is mindless declaration
of ignorance, still maintained from its
ancient origin by dumb and evil humans.

...

Adults who believe in a fictitious Santa god have the
mentality level of a child who believes in Santa Claus,
brainwashed and indoctrinated from birth to death.

...

Wise people call me a genius. Stupid and evil people call me crazy. My character is really determined by the mentality of the viewer. I would be more inclined to think that a jackass would kick me than to understand the wisdom of the Time Cube. Same with educated.

...

Truth about Santa Claus debunks
Santa God. God evolves from Santa.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Educated people are stupid cowards.
Not a single university has accepted my challenge
for a public debate of Nature's Time Cube. They
are actually brainwashed stupid and decline any
public debate for fear of public embarrassment.


Only a few minor adjustments, and Lord Kenneth could've written this stuff.


Your father was a fish. You evolved
from an egg laid in water, fertilized by
a sperm fish swimming upstream -
just as salmon swim up stream to
fertilize female egg laid in the water.
Maybe, you should worship a fish god.

Done! O Dagon, hear our prayers...

There is nothing so dumb, stupid and
evil as a cubeless educator, except for
their evil dumb stupid ass students.
Evil educators teach dumb students
how to profit from plunder of Earth
and to create deadly nuclear waste
that will poison the children's water
and destroy humanity.

He works for Greenpeace?


Interracial marriage is stupid and evil
for it creates a child not of either race,
betraying the child and both the races.

:D

YOU are the lowest form.
YOU can't procreate alone.
YOU destroyed the village.
YOU destroyed the family.
YOU destroyed childhood.
YOU destroyed naturalism.
YOU don't know the Truth.
YOU pitiful mindless fools,
YOU are educated stupid.
YOU worship cubeless word.
YOU are your own poison.
YOU create your own hell.
YOU must seek Time Cube.

JOIN TODAY! See the world!

WildCat
3rd November 2003, 09:08 PM
God created only a single 24 hour day
rotation of Earth, while I have created
4 simultaneous 24 hour days within a
single rotation of Earth - therefore, I
am wiser than the word god, and all
word worshipers. All words are fictitious.
Now that's a real brain teaser, if all words are fictitious then that's not true, so it is not fictitious but then it is since all words are fictitious...

This forum needs an exploding head smiley...

Zep
3rd November 2003, 09:38 PM
Yup...

Undodog
4th November 2003, 02:52 AM
All words are fictitious... apart from 'fictitious'.

Checkmite
4th November 2003, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by WildCat


This forum needs an exploding head smiley...

http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/cwm/cwm/killtard.gif

Stainless_Steel_Rat
4th November 2003, 10:06 AM
I've seen some of his garbage before, but I never spent this much time with it before. Now there is a fellow with some serious mental issues. Not the least bit his ability to disprove the laws of physics but rantings that he HAS disproven them. There's like 1 page in that 100 page diatribe that even tries to explain his theory... and it's just a little crap diagram about how my daytime is different that Austrailias... Wow, I'm convinced.

Schicophrenic nassisitic personality, at least... :)

SSR
Of course in College I was evil in allowing the school to suppress discussion of the time cube.

Blondin
4th November 2003, 10:34 AM
He sure is hung up on the number 4. Should somebody tell him that a cube has 6 sides?

On second thought let's not go there.

Corey
4th November 2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Blondin
He sure is hung up on the number 4. Should somebody tell him that a cube has 6 sides?

On second thought let's not go there.



So you think...according to your evil, false education, hehe.

Blondin
4th November 2003, 11:51 AM
Hmmm. Actually a cube does only have 4 sides (and a top and a bottom). Not only that but we only have 4 fingers on each hand (and a thumb)! Maybe he's right!

If I tell a human that his 4-corner
head (nose, 2 ears and back corner)
has only a 1-corner face, the dumb-
ass will say to me - "prove it". He
knows not that his face is a corner.

...hence the term "fourhead".

Thrice is he armed who hath his quarrel just.

And four times he who gets his fist in fust.

CFLarsen
4th November 2003, 12:02 PM
This has to be the worst "designed" website on the Internet....

I have no idea what he is rattling on about. If he cannot explain what he means, then he doesn't understand it either...

Mr Manifesto
4th November 2003, 02:21 PM
What freak allowed him to speak at MIT? Or can anyone speak there if someone pays the fee?

Zep
4th November 2003, 02:48 PM
I suspect the MIT thing was another student prank - invite a known nutter to a prestigious public forum, wind him up and let him go. I can just see the blank and puzzled faces of the august assembled body of the university...

If so, a very nice effort, chaps!

Aussie Thinker
4th November 2003, 08:02 PM
Zep,

I think back about my Uni days.. why didn’t we think of that… I am laughing myself sick at the thought.

ADD Boy
4th November 2003, 09:33 PM
:what:

Hey, I emailed him with a proof arguing against his time cube. Do you think he'll send me $10000? Here it is:

Okay. A day is used to measure the amount of time it takes the Earth to make one complete revolution about its axis. Therefore, saying there is 4 days in one rotation is completely inaccurate. If your definition of “day” was 96 hours, then yes, you’d be right. But a day is commonly understood as a 24-hour period. So therefore, using our standards of time, you cannot have 96 hours in one revolution. I will kindly accept my $10000 from you.

Undodog
5th November 2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by CFLarsen
This has to be the worst "designed" website on the Internet....
---
From an interview on Satanosphere.com:

Satanosphere: Have you thought about hiring a professional web designer to better get the Timecube message across?

(Gene Ray)WisestOne: No I will not chage the web. There is no problem with the web - except erroneous academia blocks the brainwashed and indoctrinated from comprehending it. A book is coming.
---

I thought there might be, somehow. I hope its the same format as the site but with watercolour illustrations.
'See cube spin. Spin, cube, spin.'

Dragon
5th November 2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Blondin
He sure is hung up on the number 4. Should somebody tell him that a cube has 6 sides?

On second thought let's not go there.
Oh, let's - according to this image, shouldn't it be the Time Octahedron?
:D :D http://www.timecube.com/graphic2.gif

Schizobunny
8th November 2003, 08:57 PM
He is a lunitic. Do you really want to understand him?

DickK
9th November 2003, 04:42 AM
Not so long ago, I and some friends went to dinner with an elderly Romanian couple who lived in the East End, London. The old gent had an interesting history. During WW2 he'd been in the Romanian merchant navy and had managed to get his way on to a neutral ship. He then jumped ship at Liverpool and handed himself into the authorities ("those policemen were very nice, they gave me breakfast and were very chatty"). Subsequently, after about 18 months of incarceration, he'd been allowed to stay in Britain in recognition of the personal danger his return to Romania might incur. His description of life in Romania during WW2, having aligned itself with Nazi Germany and with the imminent threat of a Soviet triumph, was chilling and compelling in equal degrees (forgive pun).

After the great meal, when we were sitting down, guzzling too much home-made suica and listening to one of their Romanian neighbours perform some beautiful accapella folk-singing in the living room (these guys have a whole different social dynamic from us Brits), he drew me aside and asked if I'd like to have a look at his "book". I'd already shown considerable enthusiasm for his stories so I naturally imagined I'd be seeing photographs, newspaper clippings, letters from home, that sort of stuff. Not so. It was a blank-leaved 2" thick legal-sized journal, very nearly full with the neatest English handwriting, an index sellotaped into the front, and with lots of exquisitely produced diagrams (he had obtained an engineering degree in his youth and held the rank of Chief Engineer on board ship). It proved, he sadly confided, that God was inherently unjust. Some years past, his first wife had been horribly killed in a car accident about a mile from the flat. Reading the book I gathered the impression that this had caused him to become deeply obssessive concerning the discovery of any physical evidence regarding the injustice of God. I read a few pages and, quite part from the forced assumption that God exists, it was, well, gibberish, although it was quite evident that he was highly educated, well read and about as eclectic (which seems to be a hallmark of much of this stuff) as you can be. I spent about an hour and a half reading a selection of pages, which contained references to classical history, Judaism, the discovery of radiation, the speed of light, the number of stars in the universe (300,000 was his tally, I remember it, because this number featured as some sort of "numeral of power" right through the book) , numerology and a theory of time-travel. You think I'm making this up. Well, I may be, except that it's true. I've never seen anything like that, before or since, except on the web.

Attempting to rationally comment on the justice of God does not necessarily burn the words "non-sequitur" or even "I am a cubic cappucino maker" across someone's forehead, but his writing and layout displayed the same "I have it all in my head but have lost acquaintance with that faculty that focuses and orders its exegesis into a usable thesis, even if it made sense in the first place, which, right now, I'm not in a fit state to pronounce upon" exposition, akin but not exactly like that immortality bracelet nutter's site and the site, er, cited in this thread. It's worth pointing out that the web sites are chaotic shadows of the old man's result. At least the need to write the stuff and draw the diagrams had given him pause for thought, long enough at least, to render his arguments with enough generosity to propose a theory, cite some evidence and draw some conclusions. He'd spent about 10 years filling the book up when I read some of it.

He freely admitted that the book was the result of his first wife's demise but countered this with, "What else could I do, go mad in the street?". Even taking the book into account, there was no evidence that this interesting, kind old man, with a lot of personal history in his cupboard, was doing other than managing his dignity, something the web does not permit when these sites so readily expose their author's collapse, and the waste products thereof, without mediation.

The old man has passed away now, and if I was cruel I might imagine the interview he had with St. Peter at the Pearly Gates.

"One moment, I've got a note here from head office, something about a book?".
"Yes, I wrote a book, a very long and angry book, it proved the injustice of God, is there a problem?"
"Ever publish on the web?"
"What? I was mad with grief, what the f*ck did this have to do with a global communications infrastructure?"
"Have a good day, sir, changing rooms on the left, ambrosia and virgins on the right..."

He was a nice old guy and a mean brag player too.


edited for spelling