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Mark6
18th November 2008, 02:02 PM
"Auction off virginity" thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129011) got me thinking:

On several threads people either condemn or defend prostitution -- and the latter seem to me in the majority, -- but nobody ever admits to it. So:

How many men on this forum had ever paid woman for sex?

To forestall being accused of hypocrisy -- I have. And to forestall "depends on the definition of the word is"-type answers -- I am not talking about paying for dinner/movie/taxi, and I am not talking about woman taking you to bed because she is grateful you helped her move the furniture. I am not even talking about sleeping with the boss for a promotion. I am talking about financial transaction where from the start woman expected to be paid, and man expected to pay her.

And if some woman here HAD paid for sex, please do not accuse me of sexism for making this a "men only" poll. I am trying to keep it simple! (But comments on the matter are welcome! :) )

Skeptic Guy
18th November 2008, 02:08 PM
Nope, not me.

And to explain further. I don't necessarily have a moral issue with prostitution.

When I was single, I never felt the need. I had relationships with women and considered the associated risks not worth it.

Now, I'm married and wouldn't do it to my wife. And from a purely basic level, it wouldn't be worth half of what I own.

paximperium
18th November 2008, 02:11 PM
I have no recollection of the events of that October 2008 weekend in Las Vegas nor do I have any comment of the legal age of that young lady.

lumos
18th November 2008, 02:11 PM
Nope. (although I have nothing against it.)

I Ratant
18th November 2008, 02:17 PM
Directly, yes.
The unofficial method, marriage for sex, not yet.

Ivor the Engineer
18th November 2008, 02:18 PM
I have no recollection of the events of that October 2008 weekend in Las Vegas nor do I have any comment of the legal age of that young lady.

That's because you were drunk and it was my mother you *******!

WildCat
18th November 2008, 02:20 PM
Not me. But once while at work 2 crack whores came by and said I could have them both for $3... trust me that was too much for those two.

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 02:26 PM
What? No public poll?

Wuss!

I voted "yes" by the way. A very long time ago at a friend's stag party*. Worst sex I ever had and the only time I've worn a condom in my life. People use those things? UUUUGGGGGHHHH.

*Yes, it was my idea to go to a brothel. Many beers do that to you.

Mark6
18th November 2008, 02:28 PM
Not me. But once while at work 2 crack whores came by and said I could have them both for $3... trust me that was too much for those two.
Dare I ask what your job is? :)

Ivor the Engineer
18th November 2008, 02:35 PM
<snip>

Worst sex I ever had

<snip>

See, that what puts me off the idea. I find nothing erotic about being wanked off by someone who's only doing it for money.

El Greco
18th November 2008, 02:45 PM
No, mainly because I'm too proud to pay. A few times it almost happened simply because I was with friends and it was going to be just for fun. But the girls they called didn't exactly turn me on. In theory I could pay for a special night that would include the whole package, ie great woman, dinner, club, faking she's got a crush on me etc.

paximperium
18th November 2008, 02:48 PM
That's because you were drunk and it was my mother you *******!
The person in the video is not me. I'm allergic to the nickel in handcuffs and am averse to whips. I have no recollection of the events claimed nor of the five goats and sheep involved...your honor.

Piscivore
18th November 2008, 02:54 PM
Not overtly.

Darth Rotor
18th November 2008, 02:55 PM
Poll for men only
Hmm, I thought the pole was for the women . . . oops, poll.

Never mind.

DR

Marquis de Carabas
18th November 2008, 03:39 PM
Does paying the goatherd count?

ravdin
18th November 2008, 03:47 PM
Haven't we all?

Poll for women: would you put out for a cheap bastard who won't ever take you out to dinner or buy you something nice?

Safe-Keeper
18th November 2008, 03:49 PM
But once while at work 2 crack whores came by and said I could have them both for $3... trust me that was too much for those two.I'm amazed by your maturity. My friends who are former "crackheads" and "whores" would've been appalled had they happened by and seen you spout something immature:).

gumboot
18th November 2008, 03:49 PM
Nope. Can't see it ever happening. There are certainly women I'd be willing to pay money to sleep with, but I would never be able to afford enough money to convince them it's a good idea.

Ivor the Engineer
18th November 2008, 03:55 PM
Looks like the 'yes' men are being squeezed in the poll. They're probably enjoying it.

Fiona
18th November 2008, 04:19 PM
Poll for women: would you put out for a cheap bastard who won't ever take you out to dinner or buy you something nice?
:dl:

Dragoonster
18th November 2008, 04:28 PM
Yes. I've neither looked for hookers or not looked for hookers (and the towns I've lived in having had any I was aware of). But one trip to Atlantic City I was ahead in cash and one soliticed on my way to the hotel so I did. I don't think it's immoral in any way so don't ponder this anymore than any other transaction.

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 05:09 PM
Does paying the goatherd count?

No, but if you gave the goat anything afterwards*, it will.





*not counting diseases.

WildCat
18th November 2008, 05:13 PM
Dare I ask what your job is? :)
I was repairing a back porch at the time, in a very shady part of town.

Kevin_Lowe
18th November 2008, 05:13 PM
I've got absolutely no moral issues with consenting adults exchanging sexual favours for money, as long as everyone plays safely, but I've never made such a transaction myself.

I have, on the other hand, slept with a woman without giving her any gifts, free meals or whatever first. We subsequently spent ten years together.

WildCat
18th November 2008, 05:19 PM
Worst sex I ever had and the only time I've worn a condom in my life. People use those things? UUUUGGGGGHHHH.

Future thread title by The Atheist: Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?


:p

ConspiRaider
18th November 2008, 05:25 PM
Well...

There was that time in Oklahoma.

Turnpike deal. When you take your ticket before getting on the I-44 turnpike, every 44th ticket is hourglass-shaped (38-23-36) with a big ole number on the back. For example, the number 5.

What that means is that at the end of the turnpike, you are supposed to go through the 5th toll gate. And then when you insert your fantastic-babe-shaped ticket through the reader, you don't have to pay (the highway toll, that is). Instead, your come-hither ticket activates the explosive bolts in the chair of the fetching ticket taker and she is catapulted into the passenger seat of your car. And off you drive into the dreamland that is eastern Oklahoma where y'all negotiate the terms.

Obviously you have to have a convertible / ragtop / cabriolet, right? Yep. And I do, a Pontiac G6 hardtop/convertible. But I sneaked a look at the lucky booth lady whilst inserting the ticket and my right arm did this goofy spaz deal and I errantly hit the button to retract the roof. My right foot had a similar affliction and I hammered down on the accelerator.

If you've ever had the experience of going 75 in the left shoulder of Interstate 44, on two wheels, with a spiked high heel in your left ear and a quarters-change-maker rammed into your throat while you barely detect a wind-whipped screeching litany of "Don't close the roof Roof ROOF you dumbass city boy tofu-eating surf BASTAAAAARRRRDDDDDDdddddddddd......." - you know exactly what I'm talking about.

But still, Oklahoma is OK.

Darth Rotor
18th November 2008, 06:18 PM
Obviously you have to have a convertible / ragtop / cabriolet, right? Yep. And I do, a Pontiac G6 hardtop/convertible. But I sneaked a look at the lucky booth lady whilst inserting the ticket and my right arm did this goofy spaz deal and I errantly hit the button to retract the roof. My right foot had a similar affliction and I hammered down on the accelerator.

If you've ever had the experience of going 75 in the left shoulder of Interstate 44, on two wheels, with a spiked high heel in your left ear and a quarters-change-maker rammed into your throat while you barely detect a wind-whipped screeching litany of "Don't close the roof Roof ROOF you dumbass city boy tofu-eating surf BASTAAAAARRRRDDDDDDdddddddddd......." - you know exactly what I'm talking about.

But still, Oklahoma is OK.
:D

Ah, our Conspi comes through in the clutch. (It was a standard transmission, wasn't it?)

DR

ConspiRaider
18th November 2008, 06:28 PM
:D

Ah, our Conspi comes through in the clutch. (It was a standard transmission, wasn't it?)

DR
:D

Always lookin' out for me, Darthster, much obliged.

Actually I have an automatic tranny (pun intended) and good thing too. When her sleek spiked high heel rammed into my left ear, instinct took over. I tried to scratch my left ear with my left leg to dislodge that pesky (yet still sexy) shoe spike. Somehow it got tangled with the seat belt and her halter top and so you see? Sometimes God watches out for ya. Couldn't have depressed no kind of clutch pedal in that rather pretzelian position...

Darth Rotor
18th November 2008, 06:32 PM
:D
Couldn't have depressed no kind of clutch pedal in that rather pretzelian position...
Pretzelian position. :D Conspi, I'm gonna save that for a time when it is handy, I love that term. Thank you for the gift, it will be passed along.

DR

Pardalis
18th November 2008, 06:32 PM
Is paying your girlfriend dinner considered paying for sex?

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 06:34 PM
Future thread title by The Atheist: Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?

Nah, I have a 100% guarantee of never getting an STD.

(and it ain't celibacy)

Sir Robin Goodfellow
18th November 2008, 06:40 PM
Whackin' it is cheaper and safer.

Toke
18th November 2008, 06:43 PM
In my trade you are kind of expected to have a girl in every port.
Even if it is not the same one every time.

Kevin_Lowe
18th November 2008, 07:37 PM
Nah, I have a 100% guarantee of never getting an STD.

(and it ain't celibacy)

Welded-on chastity belt and a strap-on?
Woman locked in the cellar?
Blow-up sheep?

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 07:39 PM
Welded-on chastity belt and a strap-on?
Woman locked in the cellar?
Blow-up sheep?

Nothing so complicated.

Just marriage.

XenonII
18th November 2008, 07:54 PM
Nope and those that do are moral terrorists. They are criminals, they should face custodial sentences and be placed on the sex offenders register. Prostitution is an enormous sin and enablers are just as bad. Use your hand if you are that desperate for an orgasm (still a sin but at least then you're not coercing another into an immoral, criminal and sinful act).

tyr_13
18th November 2008, 07:56 PM
I think I'm one of the few who have a moral objection to prostitution, but don't tie it to religion. Not that I think my morals should be placed on anyone else however.

No, I've never paid for it, with money.

Roadtoad
18th November 2008, 07:59 PM
Nope. Never paid for it.

Can't say I haven't been tempted to, though.

grunion
18th November 2008, 08:00 PM
Nah. But I suppose paying for the fantasy isn't that far off.

WaterBreather
18th November 2008, 08:04 PM
No, never.
I have studied the world, and I realize that social corruption begets social corruption.
The road to hell may be paved with good intentions, but it is travelled on by those with bad intentions.

If you do not object to corruption, then do not be surprised when you fall victim to it.

And I have had plenty of pretty girlfreinds who loved me even when I could not afford to
take them out to dinner. My poverty at the time had prevented marriage and children, yes,
but it had never prevented love and a good time.

gtc
18th November 2008, 08:14 PM
Just marriage.

That would have been my second guess. My first would have been that you're a wanker. But then I realised they're not mutually exclusive.

Kevin_Lowe
18th November 2008, 08:26 PM
Nothing so complicated.

Just marriage.

A lot of men and women have learned the hard way that is not 100% guaranteed. :)

quixotecoyote
18th November 2008, 08:30 PM
love and a good time.

How disgustingly corrupt.

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 08:36 PM
That would have been my second guess. My first would have been that you're a wanker. But then I realised they're not mutually exclusive.

:dl:

A lot of men and women have learned the hard way that is not 100% guaranteed. :)

I know; I used to crack open other blokes' wives just for the hell of it.

I was commenting on my marriage, not anyone else's.

MattusMaximus
18th November 2008, 09:03 PM
Nothing so complicated.

Just marriage.

This assumes that your spouse isn't screwing around on the side and bringing any special presents home with him/her to your love life.

Nothing is 100% guaranteed - especially in love & marriage. I've been happily married for 14+ years to my wife, but I never ever fool myself into thinking that there's no way either of us will ever cheat.

MattusMaximus
18th November 2008, 09:11 PM
Nope and those that do are moral terrorists. They are criminals, they should face custodial sentences and be placed on the sex offenders register. Prostitution is an enormous sin and enablers are just as bad. Use your hand if you are that desperate for an orgasm (still a sin but at least then you're not coercing another into an immoral, criminal and sinful act).

Uhm, help me out here...

I assume that because you get your moral knickers in a twist so badly about two consenting adults having sex (one for money, one to get their rocks off), then would I be correct in assuming that you have a similar or greater level of moral objection to - oh let's say - priests raping children and then being protected by a religious organization for decades afterward? Would that be right?

I agree with you then. Let's take down the religious organization that has defiled and abused thousands upon thousands of innocent children by allowing them to be raped by those priests they trusted most, and then further betrayed them by actively covering up said rape and protecting (sometimes promoting!) those same priests. Open that organization up - wide open - and air all that dank and dirty laundry, in the name of child welfare and public safety. Throw all of these moral terrorists in jail and let them rot for the rest of their lives - all of them, the rapists and anyone in the Church protecting them (which would likely be most of the senior levels of the Church, btw).

Then let's move on to the brothels where consenting adults make mature decisions about their own sex lives.

I, for one, would love for more religious people to pay attention to their own lives and moral backyards and keep their noses out of other people's business - but that's just me.

And, for the record, I've never paid for sex (though I seriously considered it once or twice, even while married). That is, unless you count my wife consenting to sex after a super-hot backrub ;)

ETA: Sorry for any derail folks.

Meadmaker
18th November 2008, 10:01 PM
As the old joke goes,

A teenage boy asked his father, "Dad, did you ever pay for it?"

The father replied, "Son, you always pay for it."




But no, I've never actually engaged the services of a prostitute. It would have been cheaper than marriage, probably even on a per act basis, but I think I got the better deal anyway.

The Atheist
18th November 2008, 10:01 PM
This assumes that your spouse isn't screwing around on the side and bringing any special presents home with him/her to your love life.

No assumption required, I know.

Nothing is 100% guaranteed - especially in love & marriage. I've been happily married for 14+ years to my wife, but I never ever fool myself into thinking that there's no way either of us will ever cheat.

Yes, I recall that from my first marriage. Hard luck for you if that's how you see it.

MattusMaximus
18th November 2008, 10:12 PM
No assumption required, I know.

Nice crystal ball you've got there :rolleyes:

Yes, I recall that from my first marriage. Hard luck for you if that's how you see it.

I'm a realist. That's all.

And I'll add that I'm still on my first marriage, thank you very much :p

Whiplash
18th November 2008, 10:21 PM
Not me. But once while at work 2 crack whores came by and said I could have them both for $3... trust me that was too much for those two.

http://www.thedailyweird.com/wp-content/uploads/you-cant-afford-me.jpg

DC
18th November 2008, 10:58 PM
yes
but never during a relationship.

Shadowdweller
19th November 2008, 01:41 AM
Nope.

The idea has always seemed a bit repellent to me. Not due to any moral considerations, but because half the enjoyment I derive from a sexual experience comes from the others' appreciation thereof. Call it a form of voyeurism if you will. While a prostitute or other might conceivably fake interest or orgasm, I find the idea of such insincerity to be nauseating and so have never sought it out. And any friend or significant other with whom I would normally otherwise have sex would be able to convince me to pay them without the sex.

Lothian
19th November 2008, 03:15 AM
Never have, never would.

Francesca R
19th November 2008, 03:24 AM
never would.There's a lot that can be done about that (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/erectiledysfunction/index.shtml) these days.

Lothian
19th November 2008, 03:48 AM
There's a lot that can be done about that (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/erectiledysfunction/index.shtml) these days.This is no laughing matter. You may joke but this is a serious issue for thousands of men and is something in today's culture they find hard to discuss. Still it must be nice for them to find something hard.

The Painter
19th November 2008, 04:19 AM
Just once. My girlfriend, at the time, said I was a great in bed. I was just trying to get a professional opinion.;)

malbui
19th November 2008, 06:33 AM
The idea has never even occurred to me.

Bikewer
19th November 2008, 08:27 AM
Having been in police work for so long, I'm perhaps jaded by the "kind of girls" one encounters on the street.
At the same time, we are aware of "high class call girls" or "escorts" who are also rather vastly expensive....
I would not "pay for sex". I might consider paying for a "scene" (if, theoretically speaking, I were involved in some sort of alternative turn-on....) and my wife was not.

In many of these things, there is little or no sex involved, at least in terms of intercourse.


Back when I was reading about sexuality from the standpoint of law enforcement, one of the more prominent researchers had some thoughts about prostitution.
His hypothesis dealt with the "sacred love-sinful lust" dichotomy that pervades society.
Essentially, the "sacred love" object (wife or committed girlfriend) would not be subject to the sorts of naughty "sinful lust" that the man wishes to perform.
So....Hire a professional. There may be something to this, but it seems to me that human sexuality is so convoluted that nothing is that simple.

ponderingturtle
19th November 2008, 08:34 AM
Nah, I have a 100% guarantee of never getting an STD.

(and it ain't celibacy)

Your only sex is with the woman you keep chained in the basement then.

Either that or pure masterbation.

ponderingturtle
19th November 2008, 08:35 AM
Nothing so complicated.

Just marriage.

Then it is not 100%.

ponderingturtle
19th November 2008, 08:44 AM
I have never been in a situation were I had the money and would feel safe enough to do so. But I have considered it for various reasons.

mrbaracuda
19th November 2008, 09:14 AM
Nein.

Cuddles
19th November 2008, 09:29 AM
Nope.

Now, I'm married and wouldn't do it to my wife.

Must... resist... urge...

Blue Bubble
19th November 2008, 09:36 AM
Nope for me too. Would never even consider it.

Wonder what happens on Planet X ?

mrbaracuda
19th November 2008, 09:47 AM
I wonder how the result would look like if the 95 had the money! :p :D

Lothian
19th November 2008, 09:47 AM
Nein.One more and you will be in double figures.

mrbaracuda
19th November 2008, 09:56 AM
One more and you will be in double figures.

Nice. ;)
For a man who gets pooped on by a duck anyway! :D

Francesca R
19th November 2008, 09:58 AM
Try to appreciate how traumatised I am that I thought of the same response to post 62 (but did not post it)

Lothian
19th November 2008, 10:03 AM
Try to appreciate how traumatised I am that I thought of the same response to post 62 (but did not post it)They say great minds think alike. I wonder how they will explain why you thought it as well.

paximperium
19th November 2008, 10:03 AM
Nice. ;)
For a man who gets pooped on by a duck anyway! :D
I believe you are actually talking to the duck. The man is just there for show.

KodeBlue
19th November 2008, 10:56 AM
not intentionally..i was robbed at knife point by a guy i picked once. didn't care to repeat that experience!:eye-poppi

mrbaracuda
19th November 2008, 11:03 AM
Try to appreciate how traumatised I am that I thought of the same response to post 62 (but did not post it)

Why would that traumatise you, poor Francesca? :(
Hookers also have to make a living.

I believe you are actually talking to the duck. The man is just there for show.

Now that you say it, the man looks quite .. dead to me. Or smeared with duck feces. We report, you decide! :D

Soapy Sam
19th November 2008, 11:11 AM
No.
Whether from moral fortitude, cowardice, or a low libido I don't know.

I've worked (still work) in countries where young women have no qualms about forming regular relationships with older foreign men with a clear understanding that sexual favours will be compensated financially and / or by employment or promotion in the man's company. No pimps are involved and the matter would not be seen as prostitution. These relationships often lead to marriage, and generally to expensive divorce.

Yes, it's flattering to a man of 53 when a pretty woman 30 years his junior makes a clear pass. And yes, the hydraulics still work, but I'm aware the bulge in my breeks she's interested in is in the pocket rather than elsewhere.
I also have a conscience, a regular partner at home and a mother who would despise me.
It was never worth the price.

Francesca R
19th November 2008, 11:12 AM
Why would that traumatise you, poor Francesca? :(Oh, the self-abnegation consequent upon the realisation that I had the same thought as duck-poop-head. Apologies for you were an innocent bystander. I need to go look for Jesus now. Not sure what his rates are.

666
19th November 2008, 02:07 PM
Another "yes" vote. A long, long time ago, far, far away before I met Mrs. 666. I was away on a business trip and happened into a bar where there were only three other customers, all very female and giving no illusions about their profession.

I was happy to chat with them and buy a few drinks to pass the evening, with no intention of taking things further. When it got late, and no other potential clients had turned up, the three ladies put their heads together and offered me a package deal that I couldn't refuse.

To cut a long story short, the four of us ended up in my room (Holiday Inn; 2 King-Size beds) and the rest is history. We made a grand entrance to the breakfast room the following morning with the ladies still dressed like they were going to a party. Priceless!

I've never had the opportunity, courage or cash to repeat the experience.

VulcanWay
19th November 2008, 02:51 PM
Wonder what happens on Planet X ?
What happens on Planet X STAYS on Planet X...

ConspiRaider
19th November 2008, 03:03 PM
Another "yes" vote. A long, long time ago, far, far away before I met Mrs. 666. I was away on a business trip and happened into a bar where there were only three other customers, all very female and giving no illusions about their profession.

I was happy to chat with them and buy a few drinks to pass the evening, with no intention of taking things further. When it got late, and no other potential clients had turned up, the three ladies put their heads together and offered me a package deal that I couldn't refuse.

To cut a long story short, the four of us ended up in my room (Holiday Inn; 2 King-Size beds) and the rest is history. We made a grand entrance to the breakfast room the following morning with the ladies still dressed like they were going to a party. Priceless!

I've never had the opportunity, courage or cash to repeat the experience.
I have the courage (NOT a 'fraidy Raidey) and the cash (after I sell my genuine hand-assembled futon) and I must now graciously DEMAND that you provide the opportunity.

Same deal, except one Holiday Inn bed is fine, a single bed (or cot) would be perfect. I likes that close contact bit.

sackett
19th November 2008, 03:31 PM
Wait a minute. You mean the GUY pays the WOMAN? Wierd.

trvlr2
19th November 2008, 03:35 PM
No.
Whether from moral fortitude, cowardice, or a low libido I don't know.

I've worked (still work) in countries where young women have no qualms about forming regular relationships with older foreign men with a clear understanding that sexual favours will be compensated financially and / or by employment or promotion in the man's company. No pimps are involved and the matter would not be seen as prostitution. These relationships often lead to marriage, and generally to expensive divorce.

Yes, it's flattering to a man of 53 when a pretty woman 30 years his junior makes a clear pass. And yes, the hydraulics still work, but I'm aware the bulge in my breeks she's interested in is in the pocket rather than elsewhere.
I also have a conscience, a regular partner at home and a mother who would despise me.
It was never worth the price.

Well, Sam, you're young yet....it can result in good things, should your situation change.
I will leave you the southern South American continent,as I am running out of time.
Viva la oil patch!

plumjam
19th November 2008, 03:54 PM
'Men Only'. Reminds me of me and my best mate hunting in roadside hedges when we were 10 years old.
Magic moments.

The Atheist
19th November 2008, 03:57 PM
Another "yes" vote. A long, long time ago, far, far away before I met Mrs. 666.

Great story - post of the month!

'Men Only'. Reminds me of me and my best mate hunting in roadside hedges when we were 10 years old.
Magic moments.

But did you pay him?

666
19th November 2008, 04:27 PM
I have the courage (NOT a 'fraidy Raidey)
Perhaps courage was the wrong word. Foolhardiness would describe it more accurately. This was in the days before the spread of AIDS, and condoms were for wimps. :(

gumboot
19th November 2008, 04:42 PM
Most of the prostitutes around where I live are large Samoan men, so no thanks.

My own opinion on the matter is much the same as Shadowdweller's. I find the notion repellent, because the main reason I enjoy sex is because of the pleasure it brings the other person. In fact I suspect, unless the prostitute was super hot, which they only ever are in movies, the mere knowledge that any pleasure they professed was probably fake would probably turn me off and render me incapable of having sex anyway.

So I'd never go there myself, but I have no real objection to others doing so. If it's consensual, who cares?

SimpleIrony
19th November 2008, 04:51 PM
Voted no.

The thought seems completely foreign, actually. Perhaps it's because I was raised Catholic. It just is one of those things that I wouldn't even contemplate doing. Like shooting drugs or square dancing.

The Atheist
19th November 2008, 04:57 PM
Most of the prostitutes around where I live are large Samoan men, so no thanks.

:dl:

The dear fa'afafine. Lovely people. Someone must pay them....

(and for god's sake don't ever call one a "man" to her face - it's a good way of collecting a broken jaw)

gumboot
19th November 2008, 05:00 PM
:dl:

The dear fa'afafine. Lovely people. Someone must pay them....

(and for god's sake don't ever call one a "man" to her face - it's a good way of collecting a broken jaw)



I've done quite a few late night film shoots on K Rd and you're right, they are quite nice ladies a lot of them. It's the hands though. No matter how well they pull off the whole tranny thing, you see a woman in a mini skirt with hands that could crush a basketball and it just ruins the effect.

luchog
19th November 2008, 06:29 PM
I would not "pay for sex". I might consider paying for a "scene" (if, theoretically speaking, I were involved in some sort of alternative turn-on....) and my wife was not.
I feel about the same way. Sex, in and of itself, is rather boring (or at least, no more entertaining than masturbation). It's everything else involved that makes it fun (or not). I've never really had the inclination or the finances to be able to do so. Not that I see anything inherently wrong with the concept; but my wife and I used to be fairly active in the local BDSM scene, and have had an open relationship about as long as we've been together, and it was never really that difficult to find almost any kind of consentual activity, as long as you were willing to spend time getting to know people in the scene.

Interestingly, quite a few of my friends are, or have been, professional Dommes, and a couple have been upper-class call-girls; and nearly all of them have worked as "erotic performers/models" at some point.

tyr_13
19th November 2008, 06:44 PM
Man, I gotta move somewhere there is a 'scene'. :p

The Atheist
19th November 2008, 06:48 PM
Sex, in and of itself, is rather boring (or at least, no more entertaining than masturbation).

Do you really believe that?

(I suspect if it's true, you're doin' it wrong)

Mark6
19th November 2008, 07:01 PM
Another "yes" vote. A long, long time ago, far, far away before I met Mrs. 666. I was away on a business trip and happened into a bar where there were only three other customers, all very female and giving no illusions about their profession.

I was happy to chat with them and buy a few drinks to pass the evening, with no intention of taking things further. When it got late, and no other potential clients had turned up, the three ladies put their heads together and offered me a package deal that I couldn't refuse.

To cut a long story short, the four of us ended up in my room (Holiday Inn; 2 King-Size beds) and the rest is history. We made a grand entrance to the breakfast room the following morning with the ladies still dressed like they were going to a party. Priceless!
Funny, but I had a similar story, also on a business trip (not in US). Except it was two women, not three, and I ended up sleeping with only one -- the other one just took the second bed. But I had a long and fascinating conversation with both of them.

quixotecoyote
19th November 2008, 07:02 PM
Do you really believe that?

(I suspect if it's true, you're doin' it wrong)

Friction is friction. It's the context that's erotic.

Mark6
19th November 2008, 07:05 PM
but my wife and I used to be fairly active in the local BDSM scene,
I am surprised (not by the BDSM part! :) ) From your posts, somehow I always thought you are female.

quixotecoyote
19th November 2008, 07:05 PM
I am surprised (not by the BDSM part! :) ) From your posts, somehow I always thought you are female.

I did too originally. I think it's the avatar. ;)

Then I remembered rule 1 (http://shii.org/knows/Rules_of_the_Internet#Rule_1)

Roadtoad
19th November 2008, 07:53 PM
No way in hell I'd even try it now. We've got the Lizards moving into the area around Watt Avenue and I-80. I'd hate like hell to have to explain to my missuz why she's getting cold sores in places where they don't belong.

Reminds me of a tale I told here once.

A driver I used to work with stopped at the TA in Ontario, CA. He flicked the lights and got a lizard for the night. He let her into the sleeper, and once she started undressing, that's when he learned that something new had been added.

Geez, you'd think he'd at least heard about The Crying Game.

mrbaracuda
20th November 2008, 01:46 AM
I am surprised (not by the BDSM part! :) ) From your posts, somehow I always thought you are female.

Isn't Luchog a tranny or something? :eek::D

Foolmewunz
20th November 2008, 02:17 AM
How many votes do I get to balance this thing out?

Yeah, when I'm single in Asia, I've often paid. Heck, I've paid when I was too drunk to consummate the act because I just wanted someone warm and cuddly to sleep next to.

It's different over here, though. There are only a couple of big-city cultures that have grown up and are into the whole western dating/courting concept. "Dating" in the Philippines, Viet Nam, Thailand, Indonesia and many parts of China (and Taiwan in the old days) is pretty much a commercial venture whether the girl blatantly asks you for XXXX (usually the local equivalent of about a hundred bucks US), or she's looking for, as Soapy mentioned, a "boyfriend" with a wallet.

Before I was an Asia hand, I thought as many have mentioned... "Naaah, nothing wrong with it, but not for me....." But, well.. it's different over here.

@XenonII: You're joking, right? No one is as sersiously whackoid conservative as you're making out to be. You're really Hammie's sock, back to tease us, right?

RPG Advocate
20th November 2008, 10:00 AM
I visit a prostitute about once every six months. Clean, non-addicted, non-trafficked prostitutes are really expensive, but it's easier and more straightforward than trying to make sense of the illogical and often contradictory social signals women give. If I can find a woman who has the integrity not to play games during the courting process, I'll give up prostitution in a second.

As far as morality goes, it's a non-issue. Many family members are aware that I do this. As an atheist, I don't recognize the religious arguments as valid. The social cost and public health arguments could largely be addressed by legalization.

The Atheist
20th November 2008, 11:06 AM
How many votes do I get to balance this thing out?

One for each hooker.

(And I've got your ip loaded up in my hack to see how many times you click! Or how fast, whichever you prefer.)

I visit a prostitute about once every six months.

Because of the fact that the number of women desperate enough to have sex with me for free is limited to one - my wife - I'm firmly of the opinion that if she croaked I'd go exclusively to brothels. The idea of going through any kind of "dating" process to find someone suitable would give me the *****.

JenseitsDavon
20th November 2008, 12:31 PM
Yup. Once. Amsterdam. Far and away, the most physically attractive woman I've ever had sex with. Would I do it again? Maybe. Depends on my status when(if) I ever get back to Amsterdam.

UnrepentantSinner
20th November 2008, 10:46 PM
No.

Redtail
21st November 2008, 02:54 AM
Nope. Not that I have a moral objection to prostitution, and not that I am amazingly cute (I'd have to be at least 3" taller for that:D) It's just that the "chase" is the biggest turn on for me.

gumboot
21st November 2008, 03:47 AM
It's just that the "chase" is the biggest turn on for me.


I'm sure that could be arranged. Most prostitutes would probably feel relieved if all you wanted to do to them was chase them...;)

biomorph
21st November 2008, 10:10 AM
C'mon guy's, .......you all pay eventually.............:p:p:p

It just might not be money..:duck:




:boxedin:

zooterkin
23rd November 2008, 03:48 AM
Just once. My girlfriend, at the time, said I was a great in bed. I was just trying to get a professional opinion.;)

And? Did you get the opinion you paid for?