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paperskater
18th November 2008, 08:54 PM
"Auction off virginity" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129011) thread and the "Poll for men only" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129103) got me thinking...
How many women on this forum have or would consider being paid for sex?
And this is like the other poll, nothing like "Do dates count?" or anything like that. Somebody is paying you to sleep with them, nothing else.
I joke about this a lot more than I expect. I say stuff like, "If I'm really broke and desperate, I'll always have this option of making money." Honestly, I think that if I really needed the money, I would really consider it. I'd try to make it as safe as possible for me, of course.
So, what are your thoughts, girls?
Francesca R
19th November 2008, 02:42 AM
Erm, there aren't any women on the internet :)
DC
19th November 2008, 02:58 AM
why not ask, Have you ever paid for sex?
there are also woman that buy sex. and men that sells it.
Ikarus
19th November 2008, 03:03 AM
Oops, sorry, the poll was on the forum's intro page. It didn't say that this was a poll for women only there. :o
No, and I would never consider it. -1
Sorrys!
Lothian
19th November 2008, 03:05 AM
For some reason I can't see who has voted for which option. Could someone please fix this. Also could those going for the first or third option suggest a price.
Beerina
19th November 2008, 08:48 AM
Erm, there aren't any women on the internet :)
Not possible, or else the poll would be 100% "Yes, and I would do it again!!!!!1!11one!1!!"
Terry
19th November 2008, 09:00 AM
I'm interested in why this is restricted to women. It isn't like male sex-workers are particularly uncommon...
casebro
19th November 2008, 09:08 AM
I guess I'd change the question to: Have you ever taken anything of value in exchange for sex: cash, jewelry, dinner,...
Blue Bubble
19th November 2008, 09:25 AM
And what about Planet X ?
EeneyMinnieMoe
19th November 2008, 09:29 AM
I had an extremely creepy experience once when I was 15 and a total stranger offered me 100 dollars to come to his place. I got away from him as fast as I could...this wasn't anything to "consider" as this was a guy that even most hookers would not sleep with for any price. I think he was homeless or mentally unbalanced.
I don't know if he mistook me for a hooker or just wanted to bribe me.
If it anyone ever offered me money for sex, I most likely would turn them down. Maybe if it was a handsome guy I'd be with for free anyway, I'd take the money. Maybe.
Hokulele
19th November 2008, 10:52 AM
"Auction off virginity" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129011) thread and the "Poll for men only" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=129103) got me thinking...
How many women on this forum have or would consider being paid for sex?
And this is like the other poll, nothing like "Do dates count?" or anything like that. Somebody is paying you to sleep with them, nothing else.
I joke about this a lot more than I expect. I say stuff like, "If I'm really broke and desperate, I'll always have this option of making money." Honestly, I think that if I really needed the money, I would really consider it. I'd try to make it as safe as possible for me, of course.
So, what are your thoughts, girls?
I have thought about this in a "what if" kind of way, but the part I can't get past is trying to figure out what I would do if:
1) The man offering the money is someone I would never, ever, want to sleep with. :eye-poppi
2) He asked for a refund. :(
Mark6
19th November 2008, 11:17 AM
I have thought about this in a "what if" kind of way, but the part I can't get past is trying to figure out what I would do if:
1) The man offering the money is someone I would never, ever, want to sleep with. :eye-poppi
Why can't you get past that? Most hookers have standards. Granted fairly low standards, but it is not hard to imagine a man that no sane woman would sleep with for any amount of money. You tell him to get lost.
2) He asked for a refund. :(
Not sure what this has to do with anything. Are you saying that this is some form of "you are not good enough" rejection? FWIW, last year a customer in Denmark sued a prostitute for "failure to deliver". The court ruled in her favor.
tyr_13
19th November 2008, 11:31 AM
If it anyone ever offered me money for sex, I most likely would turn them down. Maybe if it was a handsome guy I'd be with for free anyway, I'd take the money. Maybe.
One, I'm assuming that you have more standards than just a handsome guy for sleeping with someone, so I'll assume 'is a handsome, nice, fun guy that I would sleep with anyway.'
However, if there was ever a woman who I would have slept with for free who offered me money (or items, or drugs, etc) to sleep with her, I'd automatically question why. Does she have low self esteem and think that it is the only way? Does she have low self esteem and think that the only reason I'm talking to her is because I'm a ho and want money? Is she running some sort of scam or have violent intent and wants to ensure compliance?
In my view, people who could get it for free but feel the need to 'sweeten the deal' with alcohol, drugs, money, or nice cars have reasons for doing so, mostly being terrible people.
As a service to the women out there who find these handsome, charming guys and decide, 'why not', I present to rich Joran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLDI7wnX6g
ponderingturtle
19th November 2008, 01:57 PM
2) He asked for a refund. :(
As my understanding is that professional women tend to charge by the time the only legitimate cause he might have to ask for a refund is that either, you did not spend the whole time with him that he paid for, or that the services negotiated for were not performed.
If he does not have an orgasm after a the hour or what ever he paid for, that is his problem.
The main two reasons for prostitution seem to be
1. Getting a more attractive sex partner than you are likely to get socially and or
2. Having a sex partner who does not have emotional entanglements.
666
19th November 2008, 02:20 PM
For some reason I can't see who has voted for which option. Could someone please fix this. Also could those going for the first or third option suggest a price.
Purely for research purposes, of course, given your response (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4211788&postcount=53) to the "Poll for men only". :D
Gurdur
19th November 2008, 02:47 PM
.... 1) The man offering the money is someone I would never, ever, want to sleep with. :eye-poppi
2) He asked for a refund. :(
So keep it strictly Platonic with Tricky.
Lothian
19th November 2008, 02:56 PM
Purely for research purposes, of course, given your response (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4211788&postcount=53) to the "Poll for men only". :DDamn I thought I was the only one looking at both threads. Ok you can come in. Basically it is just a matching service with us taking a margin in the middle.
Ron_Tomkins
19th November 2008, 03:17 PM
And what about Planet X ?
On Planet X there are no women. Thus, the poll wouldn't make sense.
EeneyMinnieMoe
19th November 2008, 04:24 PM
One, I'm assuming that you have more standards than just a handsome guy for sleeping with someone, so I'll assume 'is a handsome, nice, fun guy that I would sleep with anyway.'
However, if there was ever a woman who I would have slept with for free who offered me money (or items, or drugs, etc) to sleep with her, I'd automatically question why. Does she have low self esteem and think that it is the only way? Does she have low self esteem and think that the only reason I'm talking to her is because I'm a ho and want money? Is she running some sort of scam or have violent intent and wants to ensure compliance?
In my view, people who could get it for free but feel the need to 'sweeten the deal' with alcohol, drugs, money, or nice cars have reasons for doing so, mostly being terrible people.
As a service to the women out there who find these handsome, charming guys and decide, 'why not', I present to rich Joran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLDI7wnX6g
You're absolutely right. I did mean to say "nice, smart, fun guy who seems like he has nothing to hide and has no very weird/ very bad intentions in offering money" and that you'd normally agree to date, not just have a one night stand with.
Well, I can think of several reasons someone who doesn't really need to frequent prostitutes would do so, besides being a terrible person. Maybe he or she is lonely or is having a lonely Thursday night. Maybe they are in the mood for a no-strings-attached night of fun. Maybe they are impatient with having to pick someone up or to do the whole chatting, drink and dinner thing. Maybe they have just broken up with their partner and need a "rebound".
I agree, though, you are running the risk of something very, very bad happening to you. There's a reason prostitutes are at a much greater risk of being assaulted, raped, robbed or killed- that's certainly something to consider when offered money or drugs in exchange for your body.
paperskater
19th November 2008, 05:21 PM
I'm interested in why this is restricted to women. It isn't like male sex-workers are particularly uncommon...
Well, I thought of this as well, but I wanted to mirror the "Poll for men only" thread. There probably are lots of women who have paid men for sex, but the other thread was only asking about paying women.
Maybe we should start two more polls for the paid men side! :)
tyr_13
19th November 2008, 05:45 PM
Well, I can think of several reasons someone who doesn't really need to frequent prostitutes would do so, besides being a terrible person. Maybe he or she is lonely or is having a lonely Thursday night. Maybe they are in the mood for a no-strings-attached night of fun. Maybe they are impatient with having to pick someone up or to do the whole chatting, drink and dinner thing. Maybe they have just broken up with their partner and need a "rebound".
Oh, I didn't mean that people frequent prostitutes did so because they are terrible people! I was talking about the people who do get a lot or fair amount of sex, but only after they are both drunk, high, wasted, 'gold digging', or emotionally unstable. Those people who offer those things because they either have to, or believe they have to. It is sicken how often people fall for it too.
You know, add people who use emotional blackmail too to 'pay' for sex.
Again, if the person doesn't really want me specifically (as opposed to just wanting sex, doing it for the money, etc.), I don't find it very sexy.
SDC
19th November 2008, 05:53 PM
Crikey. I am glad to be married and to limit my, uh, whoopee activities within that arena.
Hokulele
19th November 2008, 06:02 PM
Why can't you get past that? Most hookers have standards. Granted fairly low standards, but it is not hard to imagine a man that no sane woman would sleep with for any amount of money. You tell him to get lost.
Not sure what this has to do with anything. Are you saying that this is some form of "you are not good enough" rejection? FWIW, last year a customer in Denmark sued a prostitute for "failure to deliver". The court ruled in her favor.
As my understanding is that professional women tend to charge by the time the only legitimate cause he might have to ask for a refund is that either, you did not spend the whole time with him that he paid for, or that the services negotiated for were not performed.
If he does not have an orgasm after a the hour or what ever he paid for, that is his problem.
Both of you have good points, but my concern was not so much with industry standards and support, but what my options would be. If I turned someone down and they persisted, would I call the police (problematic, as prostitution is illegal where I live) or run like heck? If something went wrong, I would have no legal recourse.
Crikey. I am glad to be married and to limit my, uh, whoopee activities within that arena.
Well yeah, that too.
(I had assumed this is completely hypothetical. I do own a consulting business, just not that type of consulting. :boxedin:)
tyr_13
19th November 2008, 06:20 PM
Actually you should still call the police. You attempting to back out of an illegal contract would put the law on your side. His persisting is worse than you offering, and chances are good nothing major would be held against you.
It is kind of like with blackmail. Unless they are blackmailing you with something very bad, the act of blackmailing is worse than what they are holding over you.
So I would say that you would call the police while running like heck.
Luciana
19th November 2008, 09:52 PM
I voted for "no, but would consider it". I can't imagine many situations in which I'd consider it, but it would have to involve urgency, and hunger is what comes to my mind. However, I'd rather consider any job - clean toilets, flip burger, call center agent - rather than prostitution, as I'm sure such a situation would be temporary, after all I have education and a reasonable work experience. Most important, I have family and friends I could resort to to get shelter and some start-up money before I got a job, any job, to get me out of a difficult situation. So the likelihood of ever charging for sex is extremely low, nearly unthinkable. I don't rule it out completely simply because I know we live in a complex world where the weirdest things happen frequently.
Skeptic Ginger
19th November 2008, 10:57 PM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example? A couple hundred, not enough, a few thousand, depends on whose paying, but a million, unless you have HIV or something, that would be a deal maker.
Not saying anyone would pay me that much mind you. But if they would then why not?
No reason to pay for sex however. I can't think of any circumstances where that would occur.
DC
20th November 2008, 12:01 AM
Polls about paying for sex are propably the polls that contain most lies.
there are not much men that would pay for sex, but when you look at the numbers of prostitutes, it is clear those numbers add up :D
Miss_Kitt
20th November 2008, 12:51 AM
Paperskater -- Thanks for starting this, it is actually an interesting question.
I took a while to pick an answer. My emotion response was, "No, never!" but then I thought about my child. If the world suddenly went pear-shaped in a bad way; if I ended up in one of those horror-film post war situations, where my intelligence and diligence were worth nothing, I had no home or belongings or money...would I let my kid go hungry rather than hook? In all honesty, the answer is, NO. I'd do pretty much anything, if it really came down to that or her going hungry. (Me going hungry -- meh, I could stand to lose 30 pounds anyway.)
It would take something bigger than a Depression to put me into that desperate a spot (and my husband would have to be dead or disabled, too). But, as Luciana so aptly pointed out, the world's a crazy place.
On the fantasy side, if I got the "Indecent Proposition" for $1 million, I'd have to talk it over with Himself. I just can't imagine why anyone would be willing to offer me anything approaching the amount that would move into the, "This is life-changing money for one night" category. I don't see anything intrinsically evil in prostitution, I just think it's sad that there are people who need to do it.
It is demonstrably true that men crave sex more often, and generally want more variety in partners, than women do. (Individual decisions notwithstanding, the number of males paying for sex--with men or women--vastly outnumber the number of gigolo clients.) Presumably, they can't or won't find someone to have affectionate sex with, so they buy the fantasy...nothing wrong with that. And if a woman enjoys being that fantasy object; if both parties are consenting adults, I don't find it troubling.
I think the sex industry should be legalized and managed as a health-issues-likely field -- somewhat the way restaurants have to be licensed--for the protection of all parties involved. I don't understand the typical American "it must be illegal!" response. In a legal and licensed field, most of the ills of prostitution (forced labor, abusive pimps, hookers being controlled by addiction, etc.) would vanish. Thousands of hours of police, prosecution, and court official time could be saved or diverted to crimes that are actually harming innocent people. Prison space could be used for dangerous criminals instead of lonely johns and working women. In addition to the savings from not prosecuting these (former) crimes, the State would have a steady income stream from taxes and license fees. This is just a head-scratcher for me, and has been for decades. One can argue that drug use is inherently dangerous to the user's health and the public's safety (impaired drivers, workers, etc.) but with proper hygiene--which is more likely in a legal brothel--I don't see any public risk whatsoever from the sex trade.
The above notwithstanding, if I found out my husband had ever paid for sex, I'd think less of him. He values himself too much to have intimate physical contact with someone he knows less well than the grocer checker, and if that changed--or had not been true in the past--then he's not the man I think him.
Some people don't place sex in the category of intimacy, and all I can say is, "Sorry you don't know what I know." My life experience has included sexual intimacy as the symbol and accompaniment of the highest level of emotional intimacy, something that is part play and part worship service. I would hate for anyone I love to accept less than that. But I recognize that some people do not have the same value for the activity as I do, and I don't think it is my right or anyone's right to tell them they can't decide to regard it as athletics or on a par with a good massage.
Realizing I've gone on way too long, MK
DC
20th November 2008, 01:48 AM
I think the sex industry should be legalized and managed as a health-issues-likely field
very good point.
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 03:09 AM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example? A couple hundred, not enough, a few thousand, depends on whose paying, but a million, unless you have HIV or something, that would be a deal maker.
Not saying anyone would pay me that much mind you. But if they would then why not?
No reason to pay for sex however. I can't think of any circumstances where that would occur.
<Ivor empties his money box and counts the coins>
I'll start the bidding at £3,000. I have no STDs (and I've had a flu shot). I'll pay my own airfare.
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 03:14 AM
<snip>
In a legal and licensed field, most of the ills of prostitution (forced labor, abusive pimps, hookers being controlled by addiction, etc.) would vanish.
<snip>
This is demonstrably false.
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 03:19 AM
To those women who would only consider prostitution if they were helpless: Why would men pay you for something they can take for free?
H3LL
20th November 2008, 03:20 AM
This reminds me of an old joke. Man at Bar: (Chatting to a young beauty) Would you sleep with me for $10,000?
Beauty: Cheeky! I'd have to know the money was really there.
Man at Bar: How about you sleep with me for $1 instead?
Beauty: What! You creep! What do you think I am? Some cheap whore!!!?
Man at Bar: I thought we had already established that to be so and were just negotiating price?
:D
.
Damien Evans
20th November 2008, 04:16 AM
This is demonstrably false.
Go on then.
DC
20th November 2008, 05:02 AM
To those women who would only consider prostitution if they were helpless: Why would men pay you for something they can take for free?
devine TAKE for free pls.there are alot romantic and some not so romantic ways to GET it for free. but i was not aware of a way to TAKE it for free, only one way, but that isnt an option.
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 05:25 AM
devine TAKE for free pls.there are alot romantic and some not so romantic ways to GET it for free. but i was not aware of a way to TAKE it for free, only one way, but that isnt an option.
My comment was with respect to Miss Kitt's statement:
I took a while to pick an answer. My emotion response was, "No, never!" but then I thought about my child. If the world suddenly went pear-shaped in a bad way; if I ended up in one of those horror-film post war situations, where my intelligence and diligence were worth nothing, I had no home or belongings or money...would I let my kid go hungry rather than hook? In all honesty, the answer is, NO.
Tell that to helpless women in war zones today, who if they are lucky will get some reward for the use of their genitals.
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 05:28 AM
Go on then.
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/netherl.htm
Trafficking
In Amsterdam, Netherlands, 80% of prostitutes are foreigners, and 70% have no immigration papers, suggesting that they were trafficked. (Marie-Victoire Louis, "Legalizing Pimping, Dutch Style," Le Monde Diplomatique, 8 March 1997)
In the Netherlands, 33% of the prostitutes come from countries outside of the European Union, this increases to 50% in the larger cities (Altink, 1995) ("Trafficking of Women to the European Union: Characteristic, Trends and Policy Issues," European Conference on Trafficking in Women, (June 1996), IOM, 7 May 1996)
Since 1990 in the Netherlands, the number of trafficked women from Central and Eastern European Countries has tripled. ("Trafficking of Women to the European Union: Characterisitics, Trends and Policy Issues," European Conference on Trafficking in Women, (June 1996), IOM, 7 May 1996)
...
ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands#Prostitute_populat ion
Prostitute population
A study by the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 2000 estimated that there are a total of between 20,000 and 25,000 prostitutes in the Netherlands on a yearly basis. Approximately 32% are Dutch, 22% are Latin American, 19% are Eastern European, 13% are African (south of the Sahara), 6% come from other countries from the European Union (aside from the Netherlands), 5% come from Northern Africa and 3% are Asian. Approximately 5% of the prostitutes are male, and another 5% are transsexual. However with new legislation from 2001 that prohibits migrants from outside the European Union to work legally, demographics most likely have shifted. An encyclopedia article published in 1997 claimed about 1,300 men working in homosexual prostitution, and almost none in heterosexual prostitution.[2]
A recent study found that overall about 7 percent of Dutch prostitutes have HIV/AIDS, with most of the cases among the drug-addicted and transsexual prostitutes. [3][4] Drug-addicted prostitutes are common in street prostitution.[2]
An article in Le Monde in 1997 found that 80% of prostitutes in the Netherlands were foreigners and 70% had no immigration papers, suggesting that at least some were victims of sex trafficking, forced prostitution. [5][6]
Human trafficking
The Netherlands is a primary country of destination for victims of human trafficking. Many of these are led to believe by organized criminals that they are being offered work in hotels or restaurants or in child care and are forced into prostitution with the threat or actual use of violence. Estimates of the number of victims vary from 1000 to 7000 on a yearly basis.Most police investigations on human trafficking concern legal sex businesses. All sectors of prostitution are well represented in these investigations, but particularly the window brothels are overrepresented.[7][8]
Over the years there has been a significant increase of registered Dutch victims of human trafficking. In 2005 23% of the persons registered at the Dutch Foundation Against Trafficking in Women were Dutch citizens.
In an effort to crack down on forced prostitution, a campaignldmisdaadanoniem.districts encouraging clients to report signs of coercion. The poster has an eyecatching silhouette of a spike-heeled prostitute with long hair leaning back, but on closer inspection another picture reveals a gun being held to the female's head. The caption reads "Have you seen the signals? Fear, bruises, no 'pleasure' in the job." It then goes on to offer a phone number which clients can call anonymously.
Mark6
20th November 2008, 06:56 AM
Whether legalization is a positive or negative thing has already been rehashed to death on Why is prostitution illegal (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=117410&highlight=prostitution). I doubt anyone is going to change their minds at this point... and can we please keep it a separate topic?
Ivor the Engineer
20th November 2008, 07:31 AM
Whether legalization is a positive or negative thing has already been rehashed to death on Why is prostitution illegal (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=117410&highlight=prostitution). I doubt anyone is going to change their minds at this point... and can we please keep it a separate topic?
Yes. I was responding to Miss_Kitt's false statement of fact.
ponderingturtle
20th November 2008, 10:17 AM
This reminds me of an old joke. Man at Bar: (Chatting to a young beauty) Would you sleep with me for $10,000?
Beauty: Cheeky! I'd have to know the money was really there.
Man at Bar: How about you sleep with me for $1 instead?
Beauty: What! You creep! What do you think I am? Some cheap whore!!!?
Man at Bar: I thought we had already established that to be so and were just negotiating price?
:D
.
It doesn't work, he established that she was willing to prostitute herself, not that she was CHEAP whore.
Lothian
20th November 2008, 10:29 AM
It doesn't work, he established that she was willing to prostitute herself, not that she was CHEAP whore.The version I heard ended
Beauty: What! You creep! What kind of lady do you think I am??
Man at Bar: I thought we had already established that and were just negotiating over the price?
ponderingturtle
20th November 2008, 10:33 AM
I voted for "no, but would consider it". I can't imagine many situations in which I'd consider it, but it would have to involve urgency, and hunger is what comes to my mind. However, I'd rather consider any job - clean toilets, flip burger, call center agent - rather than prostitution, as I'm sure such a situation would be temporary, after all I have education and a reasonable work experience. Most important, I have family and friends I could resort to to get shelter and some start-up money before I got a job, any job, to get me out of a difficult situation. So the likelihood of ever charging for sex is extremely low, nearly unthinkable. I don't rule it out completely simply because I know we live in a complex world where the weirdest things happen frequently.
Reading this I saw how much of it was based on the opportunities that you have based on your life.
With out as much of a support network and the education, would that change your views?
I just wonder how many women are forced by circumstance vs choose because at least when they start it is fast easy money.
Luciana
20th November 2008, 10:47 PM
Reading this I saw how much of it was based on the opportunities that you have based on your life.
With out as much of a support network and the education, would that change your views?
I just wonder how many women are forced by circumstance vs choose because at least when they start it is fast easy money.
When you push examples to the extreme, you get extreme answers from which you can't derive much meaning.
For example, let's say I'd kill a person only under two circumstances: to protect my life or to protect the life of someone I loved. I might not even hesitate if the self-defense situation was clear enough. Does that make a killer? Or a wanna-be killer? Not at all. A potential killer? Yeah, maybe, but then, who isn't? But sometimes in life we're pushed to those extremes because anything is better than the alternative.
It could be that some women choose it. It probably pays more than an entry-level job. I do not think, however, that's it's worth it, and not even because of morality. If you're a prostitute, in a short amount of time you will have been humiliated, beaten, mocked, forced to do weird stuff, got laid with guys with bad breath, popped navesl and stinky genitals. Even forced to do it without a condom. And that's true even if you're a high class whore. So, to me, it's not a viable option, I'd much prefer, as I did, to work like mad and get promoted asap.
I don't doubt that in some refugee camps or war-torn zones the only way for a pretty girl to get food is through sex. Is it prostitution if it's not optional?? What if the girl pretends she's liking it only to get the protection of one particular guy? To avoid being beaten? Or if a mother offers herself only to spare her daughter? So, answering to you, ponderingturtle, to me this is survival, not prostitution.
There is a movie called Malena, with Monica Belluci, that tells of such a story. This is a small conservative Italian town, and Malena is waiting for her husband who's fighting at war. All of a sudden she stops hearing from him, and no money arrives. She sells what she has, but it isn't much. She tries getting a job, but no woman in town wants the stunning Malena around their husbands. She's completely alone in her home, very hungry, and then takes the only job a wealthy man offers her - a night in his bed. After that, she's ostracized in the whole town.
Anyway, it's a far-fetched scenario, but this is all very common in war zones, and that's why I never say never.
Luciana
20th November 2008, 10:50 PM
To those women who would only consider prostitution if they were helpless: Why would men pay you for something they can take for free?
There's always rape, of course, however prostitution never went out of fashion, what lends credibility to the notion that some men would rather pay for it than force a woman to do it. Paying for it leaves her with a choice, rape on the other hand is forceful and violent, and it goes against the nature of some (most, I hope!) men.
EeneyMinnieMoe
20th November 2008, 11:06 PM
There's always rape, of course, however prostitution never went out of fashion, what lends credibility to the notion that some men would rather pay for it than force a woman to do it. Paying for it leaves her with a choice, rape on the other hand is forceful and violent, and it goes against the nature of some (most, I hope!) men.
Plenty of prostitutes are raped. By their pimps to punish them or exert control over them, sure, but also by their clients.
Why would you force a woman to do something she is perfectly willing to do? That you actually might have already paid her to do?
Makes no sense.
ponderingturtle
21st November 2008, 04:35 AM
It could be that some women choose it. It probably pays more than an entry-level job. I do not think, however, that's it's worth it, and not even because of morality. If you're a prostitute, in a short amount of time you will have been humiliated, beaten, mocked, forced to do weird stuff, got laid with guys with bad breath, popped navesl and stinky genitals. Even forced to do it without a condom. And that's true even if you're a high class whore. So, to me, it's not a viable option, I'd much prefer, as I did, to work like mad and get promoted asap.
It would be interesting to see the statistics on prostitutes who have had such things happen in well organized legal prostitution.
biomorph
21st November 2008, 10:22 AM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example?
That works out at about 200k per minute............:p
Cainkane1
21st November 2008, 10:32 AM
I had an extremely creepy experience once when I was 15 and a total stranger offered me 100 dollars to come to his place. I got away from him as fast as I could...this wasn't anything to "consider" as this was a guy that even most hookers would not sleep with for any price. I think he was homeless or mentally unbalanced.
I don't know if he mistook me for a hooker or just wanted to bribe me.
If it anyone ever offered me money for sex, I most likely would turn them down. Maybe if it was a handsome guy I'd be with for free anyway, I'd take the money. Maybe.
I'm glad you escaped that pervert.
applecorped
21st November 2008, 10:35 AM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example?
I wouldn't. I'd glad let someone pay me a million dollars to have sex with me.
ConspiRaider
21st November 2008, 11:28 AM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example? A couple hundred, not enough, a few thousand, depends on whose paying, but a million, unless you have HIV or something, that would be a deal maker.
A million doesn't buy what it used to though. I think we have to aim higher.
Me, for example. If an American automaker CEO offered me $25 billion to have sex with him? Well, I hope at least one in his fleet of private jets has shock absorbers in good working condition, cuz I'm like so THERE.
Ivor the Engineer
21st November 2008, 04:38 PM
There's a price for everything. Who would turn down a million for sex for example? A couple hundred, not enough, a few thousand, depends on whose paying, but a million, unless you have HIV or something, that would be a deal maker.
Not saying anyone would pay me that much mind you. But if they would then why not?
No reason to pay for sex however. I can't think of any circumstances where that would occur.
<Ivor empties his money box and counts the coins>
I'll start the bidding at £3,000. I have no STDs (and I've had a flu shot). I'll pay my own airfare.
Is no one going to rival my bid?
Ron_Tomkins
21st November 2008, 05:19 PM
It doesn't work, he established that she was willing to prostitute herself, not that she was CHEAP whore.
Wow. Oddly enough, as I read it, I was like wondering "why doesn't it work?" and then I read your post.
Lothian
22nd November 2008, 01:09 AM
Is no one going to rival my bid?Actually I am wondering if I would put on a dress and do it for £2999.
biomorph
22nd November 2008, 04:44 AM
Actually I am wondering if I would put on a dress and do it for £2999.
Actually I am wondering if you would put on a dress and do it for £2999.......:p
Mark6
22nd November 2008, 06:57 PM
Far fewer women responded to "Poll for women only" then men to "Poll for men only" (29 vs 178 as I type), but I find it curious and surprising that proportion of women who accepted money for sex at some point in the past is almost same as proportion of men who paid for sex at some point in the past (17% and 16%, respectively).
I am inclined to think it is a coincidence, as the sample number is too small for meaningful statistics, but it is still curious.
Mark6
22nd November 2008, 07:02 PM
Both of you have good points, but my concern was not so much with industry standards and support, but what my options would be. If I turned someone down and they persisted, would I call the police (problematic, as prostitution is illegal where I live) or run like heck? If something went wrong, I would have no legal recourse.
IOW, your concerns are not with sex for money per se, but with the fact that it is an illegal activity. Maybe OP should have said "Would you consider it if it were legal?" OTOH, in almost all of Western world it IS legal -- at least to some extent.
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