David Ray Griffin Currently Writing a Book about WTC 7

[ref]

I heard this on another board from a truther source close to Griffin. That's right, DRG is writing yet another 9/11-related book. This time the topic is - surprise, surprise - WTC 7.

Expect a truther denial of the NIST WTC 7 report. One topic is reportedly going to be the "silencing of truth" on a CTBUH message board. They had deleted truther posts.

How many more books can he write about 9/11?

[UNLoVedRebel]

I heard this on another board from a truther source close to Griffin. That's right, DRG is writing yet another 9/11-related book. This time the topic is - surprise, surprise - WTC 7.

Expect a truther denial of the NIST WTC 7 report. One topic is reportedly going to be the "silencing of truth" on a CTBUH message board. They had deleted truther posts.

How many more books can he write about 9/11?

You can bet the debunking will be good.

[T.A.M.]

Ref I hate to say it, and as interesting as it is, this may not have deserved its own thread (remember, lets try to keep out the clutter).

Just a thought.

TAM:)

[ref]

Ref I hate to say it, and as interesting as it is, this may not have deserved its own thread (remember, lets try to keep out the clutter).

Just a thought.

TAM:)

I think things are getting a bit over-sensitive here. The number of new threads has decreased dramatically. Even on the front page of 9/11 sub-forum there are threads that have not had any new comments for several days. It was only a couple of months ago, when the front page had a maximum of 1-day-old comments in every one of the shown 30 threads.

So things are under a much better control over here. And people post less. Is 1 new thread in this situation enough to cause clutter? Should I have posted it under some random WTC 7 thread, or random DRG thread, or not at all?

Does it even matter? ;)

I found it interesting enough to post, so I posted it. If it interests nobody else, the thread will fade away. Let's not make this a place, where few people tell all the others what can be posted and what can not. Let's not make this a police state! I might call Alex Jones! :)

[boloboffin]

What a freaking idiot.

[Jonnyclueless]

I heard this on another board from a truther source close to Griffin. That's right, DRG is writing yet another 9/11-related book. This time the topic is - surprise, surprise - WTC 7.

Expect a truther denial of the NIST WTC 7 report. One topic is reportedly going to be the "silencing of truth" on a CTBUH message board. They had deleted truther posts.

How many more books can he write about 9/11?

I have yet to see a 9/11 cook book, or a 9/11 pop-up book.

[A W Smith]

Is it gonna be published in quilted or two ply?

[JamesB]

Yeah, he mentioned this on the radio the other day. I didn't think it bore mentioning, the fact that he will continue to milk the subject for every penny until the day he dies is pretty much assumed.

[ref]

Is it gonna be published in quilted or two ply?

Ok, somebody has to explain me non-native english speaker what this means? :o

[jhunter1163]

Quilted and two-ply = types of toilet paper

[ref]

Yeah, he mentioned this on the radio the other day. I didn't think it bore mentioning, the fact that he will continue to milk the subject for every penny until the day he dies is pretty much assumed.

Well, maybe you guys are correct. Consider this thread a news flash to the interested, if nothing else. It really is no surprise he keeps on writing.

[ref]

Quilted and two-ply = types of toilet paper

Ok, thanks for that important info :D

[CHF]

Griffin's just trying to squeeze a few last dollars out of him moronic fans before the market dries up even more.

[T.A.M.]

I think things are getting a bit over-sensitive here. The number of new threads has decreased dramatically. Even on the front page of 9/11 sub-forum there are threads that have not had any new comments for several days. It was only a couple of months ago, when the front page had a maximum of 1-day-old comments in every one of the shown 30 threads.

So things are under a much better control over here. And people post less. Is 1 new thread in this situation enough to cause clutter? Should I have posted it under some random WTC 7 thread, or random DRG thread, or not at all?

Does it even matter? ;)

I found it interesting enough to post, so I posted it. If it interests nobody else, the thread will fade away. Let's not make this a place, where few people tell all the others what can be posted and what can not. Let's not make this a police state! I might call Alex Jones! :)

I debated even mentioning it, for fear of hurting feelings. I made the same statement in a thread created by Ultima1, which I felt, and I am sure others did as well, did not deserve its own thread.

The rest of my post below this point was a rant, on how you guys can do what you like, and that I am done with it.

However, I think that was a gut response to your response...which seemed to be annoyed. I deleted it, like I do many of my initial posts...lol.

I apologize if I am pushing the issue too hard.

Carry on folks.

TAM:)

[Comsat Angel]

It's not the fact that he continues to churn out the same stuff re-arranged in a different order that bothers me, so much as how on earth he keeps getting the stuff accepted by a publisher!

I guess his faithful public will buy anything he writes and thus Mr Publisher makes a profit.

[ref]

I debated even mentioning it, for fear of hurting feelings. I made the same statement in a thread created by Ultima1, which I felt, and I am sure others did as well, did not deserve its own thread.

The rest of my post below this point was a rant, on how you guys can do what you like, and that I am done with it.

However, I think that was a gut response to your response...which seemed to be annoyed. I deleted it, like I do many of my initial posts...lol.

I apologize if I am pushing the issue too hard.

Carry on folks.

TAM:)

No problems, TAM. I like you very muchos! My response to you was probably annoyed, I had a bad day at work (the place where the sometimes annoying big bosses tell people what to do :p) . Anyway, I'm glad I didn't see your gut response :D

Let's call this case closed :)

[Homeland Insurgency]

How many more books can he write about 9/11?

As many as people keep buying.

I guess Barnes and Nobel haven't heard that the Truth movement is dead.

[Miragememories]

"However, I think that was a gut response to your response...which seemed to be annoyed. I deleted it, like I do many of my initial posts...lol."
Why am I not surprised to hear that?

MM

[Miragememories]

"Well, maybe you guys are correct. Consider this thread a news flash to the interested, if nothing else. It really is no surprise he keeps on writing."
Oh?

I thought it was just another attention-seeking "look at me" thread.

It worked.

MM

[dtugg]

As many as people keep buying.

I guess Barnes and Nobel haven't heard that the Truth movement is dead.

You are right, there is are plenty of morons who are willing to by trash written by frauds.

Last time I was at a book store, they had only one copy of one of the fraud's books (I forget which one he has written like seven), I hid it somewhere so it would be unlikely that somebody would find it and buy it. Hopefully, that will be less money that DRG will make by being a lying fraud.

[Homeland Insurgency]

You are right, there is are plenty of morons who are willing to by trash written by frauds.

You mean the truth movement is not dead?

Last time I was at a book store, they had only one copy of one of the fraud's books (I forget which one he has written like seven), I hid it somewhere so it would be unlikely that somebody would find it and buy it. Hopefully, that will be less money that DRG will make by being a lying fraud.

Just one copy left? Why is that? Did the rest sell out? I see his books there all the time. More then one. I've only purchased 9/11 contradictions and I'm what some would call a twoofer. I got it at Barnes and Nobel. I wasn't even looking for it like you. I must admit you are correct about one thing. There were many more copies of the popular mechanics book (and very dusty looking at that) and even the 9/11 commission report then there was of any DRG books.

[HannibalGroup]

Fiction out sells non-fiction.

[dtugg]

You mean the truth movement is not dead?

There will always be morons who believe that 9/11 and be willing to give money to frauds that write books about it. But as a political movement they are dead. They will never accomplish anything.


Just one copy left? Why is that? Did the rest sell out? I see his books there all the time. More then one. I've only purchased 9/11 contradictions and I'm what some would call a twoofer. I got it at Barnes and Nobel. I wasn't even looking for it like you. I must admit you are correct about one thing. There were many more copies of the popular mechanics book (and very dusty looking at that) and even the 9/11 commission report then there was of any DRG books.

I doubt this book store had ever had DRG books in any number, I've never seen them. I think this was the newest one, whatever it is called.

[Miragememories]

There will always be morons who believe that 9/11 and be willing to give money to frauds that write books about it. But as a political movement they are dead. They will never accomplish anything.



I doubt this book store had ever had DRG books in any number, I've never seen them. I think this was the newest one, whatever it is called.

Just keep telling yourself that all is good and you'll be safe.

Too funny.

MM

[Homeland Insurgency]

I really don't get these debunkers.

They're forever implying that the truth movement is raking it in exploiting 9/11 while at the same time asserting day in and day out for years now that the truth movement is dead.

Well which is it? Who is buying all this merchandise?

[dtugg]

Just keep telling yourself that all is good and you'll be safe.

Too funny.

MM

I don't have to tell myself that. I know it for a fact. I know exactly one person who believes the 9/11 truth garbage. He is a moron who also believes in the lizard man. Twoofers will never accomplish anything. It's been seven years and still no proof of an inside job.

[dtugg]

I really don't get these debunkers.

They're forever implying that the truth movement is raking it in exploiting 9/11 while at the same time asserting day in and day out for years now that the truth movement is dead.

Well which is it? Who is buying all this merchandise?

Like, I just said before, as a movement they are dead. They won't ever accomplish anything. There are still a very small minority of people that are stupid enough to believe in 9/11 twoof. Those are the ones buying all the garbage frauds like DRG produce. Consider this: the US is a nation of 300 million people. If say, only .1% care about da twoof enough to buy the garbage the twoof movement produces, that's still 300,000 people. Plenty enough people for DRG to sell his lies to and make a living doing so. But hardly a movement.

[Homeland Insurgency]

Like, I just said before, as a movement they are dead. They won't ever accomplish anything. There are still a very small minority of people that are stupid enough to believe in 9/11 twoof. Those are the ones buying all the garbage frauds like DRG produce. Consider this: the US is a nation of 300 million people. If say, only .1% care about da twoof enough to buy the garbage the twoof movement produces, that's still 300,000 people. Plenty enough people for DRG to sell his lies to and make a living doing so. But hardly a movement.

Yeah right. That's why you trek on down to the local Barnes and Nobel to hide books. Why don't you just burn them and save the ignorant masses once and for all?

lol

[dtugg]

Yeah right. That's why you trek on down to the local Barnes and Nobel to hide books. Why don't you just burn them and save the ignorant masses once and for all?

lol

I didn't go there just to hide a book. I was already there (buying The Looming Tower if you must know). I happened to see his book and decided to hide it because DRG is a lying piece of trash and doesn't deserve to make any money peddling his crap. Of course I can't really stop anyone from giving him money as there is always amazon.com, but I like to think I made a small difference countering that lying fraud.

[Homeland Insurgency]

I didn't go there just to hide a book. I was already there (buying The Looming Tower if you must know). I happened to see his book and decided to hide it because DRG is a lying piece of trash and doesn't deserve to make any money peddling his crap. Of course I can't really stop anyone from giving him money as there is always amazon.com, but I like to think I made a small difference countering that lying fraud.

So you're a book burner. Nice. Let me ask you something. If what DRG puts in his books is nothing but crap peddling lies for money then why do you need to hide it?

Won't everyone see it's crap if it's so obvious? Are you smarter then most people? And what kind of difference are you making to what you also claim is a dead movement? Beating a dead horse?

[dtugg]

So you're a book burner. Nice. Let me ask you something. If what DRG puts in his books is nothing but crap peddling lies for money then why do you need to hide it?

Won't everyone see it's crap if it's so obvious? Are you smarter then most people? And what kind of difference are you making to what you also claim is a dead movement? Beating a dead horse?

If I am a book burner so be it, I would "burn" all of DRGs books in every book store in the world if I could. He is a lying piece off crap profiteering of the deaths of 3,000 people. I hid it because there is the possibility that somebody who had never heard of DRG might stumble upon it and be stupid enough to believe him and give the lying piece of scum money. Not everybody is smart enough to see through DRGs crap and I am definitely smarter than anybody who buys his snake oil. I could have saved somebody from becoming a twoofer and prevented DRG from making some money, well worth the 30 seconds it took me to hide the book. I might not have made any difference, and I may have been beating a dead horse, but it's not like it took me any effort to beat the dead horse.

[boloboffin]

Book burner?

dtugg, you have been well and truly trolled.

Personally, I feel it does no good to hide books like that in a bookstore. I remember going to get Hillary Clinton's biography from one of the warehouse stores. They had a large skid right in the middle of the aisle, but I could see that someone had taken two copies of Ann Coulter's "Treason" and stood them up on top of the pile.

I made sure that my copy of Hillary's book was one of the ones that Coulter's book had been supported by.

All you're doing is helping the mindset of the people who would read a DRG book. Far better to let the bookstore do the burning later, when they rip off the paperback cover for credit and render the rest.

[jhunter1163]

Maybe, someday in the future, DRG's audience will awaken to the fact that he's taking them for a ride... and pigs will sprout wings and fly...

[T.A.M.]

To the average person, Snake Oil can seem quite inviting. That is why people have to be told about the BS Snake Oil that the King Charlatan Griffin sells, is in fact crap. He is the perfect example of the conman selling "magical elixir" on the side of the road.

As for us being delusional about the "truth movement" being dead, all I can do is laugh. Seven years and you get less people attending events now than you did 2 years ago.

Pay attention.... NO ONE GIVES A RAT'S ASS ANYMORE. MOST PEOPLE STICK AROUND HERE TO MOCK YOU.

TAM:)

[chillzero]

Stop bickering or the thread will be closed. Please post on topic and be civil to each other.

[CHF]

Well which is it? Who is buying all this merchandise?

The same handful of single young men who show up to TM protest rallies.

[Pardalis]

Funny how many books about engineering a theologian can write... :rolleyes:

[eeyore1954]

I really don't get these debunkers.

They're forever implying that the truth movement is raking it in exploiting 9/11 while at the same time asserting day in and day out for years now that the truth movement is dead.

Well which is it? Who is buying all this merchandise?

I would think Griffin is no longer making much money on his books. I think there are few buyers out there anymore.

[Homeland Insurgency]

I would think Griffin is no longer making much money on his books. I think there are few buyers out there anymore.

So who keeps publishing them in this thriving economy?

[T.A.M.]

DRG - The New Pearl Harbour:

Amazon.ca Sales Rank: #57,075 in Books
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #26,194 in Books

http://www.amazon.ca/New-Pearl-Harbour-David-Griffin/dp/1566565529/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056461&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/New-Pearl-Harbor-Disturbing-Administration/dp/1566565529/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056548&sr=8-1

DRGs Debunking 9/11 Debunking

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #25,946 in Books
Amazon.ca Sales Rank: #51,040 in Books

http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056690&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.ca/Debunking-9-11-David-Griffin/dp/156656686X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056635&sr=8-1

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

Obama - Audacity of Hope

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #11 in Books
http://www.amazon.com/Audacity-Hope-Thoughts-Reclaiming-American/dp/0307455874/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056770&sr=8-1

----

9/11 Commission Report

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #23,309 in Books
http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Report-Terrorist-Hardcover-Authorized/dp/0393060411/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056832&sr=8-1

Lawrence Wright - The Looming Tower

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #3,319 in Books
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Qaeda-Road-Vintage/dp/1400030846/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228056928&sr=8-1

TAM:)

[peteweaver]

I suppose even liars have to pay the bills.

[UNLoVedRebel]

The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7 (http://www.amazon.com/Mysterious-Collapse-World-Trade-Center/dp/1566567866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249507863&sr=1-1)

Whose turn is it to write a whitepaper?

ETA: This looks like a barnbuner. :rolleyes:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #230,487 in Books

The Lost Symbol - Dan Brown
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6

[Galileo]

I heard this on another board from a truther source close to Griffin. That's right, DRG is writing yet another 9/11-related book. This time the topic is - surprise, surprise - WTC 7.

Expect a truther denial of the NIST WTC 7 report. One topic is reportedly going to be the "silencing of truth" on a CTBUH message board. They had deleted truther posts.

How many more books can he write about 9/11?

If he has to rebut every idiotic argument, he will need to write at least 2 dozen more.

It really disgusts me that there are still people around who deny the mass murder of the innocents.

[DGM]

It really disgusts me that there are still people around who deny the mass murder of the innocents.


Who's doing that (unless your damning DRG for his lack of factual knowledge)? What does DRG have to do with what happened and truth?

[ref]

The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7 (http://www.amazon.com/Mysterious-Collapse-World-Trade-Center/dp/1566567866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249507863&sr=1-1)

Whose turn is it to write a whitepaper?

ETA: This looks like a barnbuner. :rolleyes:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #230,487 in Books

The Lost Symbol - Dan Brown
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6

Thanks for the info.

He can't produce a short title. "The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Official Final Report About 9/11 Is Unscientific and False" must be his longest to date. And speaking of unscientific and false, maybe the most ironic :cool:

He is also picking up tempo. This will be his third book release in the course of one year.

The New Pearl Harbor Revisited was was released in September of 2008, and his Bin Laden book in May 2009 only 3 months ago.

[FineWine]

If he has to rebut every idiotic argument, he will need to write at least 2 dozen more.

It really disgusts me that there are still people around who deny the mass murder of the innocents.


It disgusts all rational people that empty-headed, agenda-driven liars deny the existence of the Islamic terrorists who murdered those innocent civilians.

[jhunter1163]

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #288,744 in Books

How many books can he have sold? Two? Three at most?

[funk de fino]

It really disgusts me that there are still people around who deny the mass murder of the innocents.

Except there is not. So you lie.

[Pardalis]

Thanks for the info.

He can't produce a short title. "The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Official Final Report About 9/11 Is Unscientific and False" must be his longest to date. And speaking of unscientific and false, maybe the most ironic :cool:

He is also picking up tempo. This will be his third book release in the course of one year.

The New Pearl Harbor Revisited was was released in September of 2008, and his Bin Laden book in May 2009 only 3 months ago.

Talk about a one-trick poney.

That guy is obsessed.

[Justin39640]

Talk about a one-trick poney.

That guy is obsessed.

gotta pay the bills lol

[njslim]

Is it gonna be published in quilted or two ply?

Does it come with box of crayons or do you need to bringyour own?

[Luntoc]

Has Griffin ever debated a debunker? I've tried to see if I can find something with him debating a debunker but I couldn't find any. I think even he know he has nothing.

[nicepants]

Has Griffin ever debated a debunker? I've tried to see if I can find something with him debating a debunker but I couldn't find any. I think even he know he has nothing.

This one, in written form, is somewhat interesting:

http://www.alternet.org/story/100688/the_ultimate_9_11_'truth'_showdown:_david_ray_grif fin_vs._matt_taibbi/

I don't know that I've ever heard of him doing any live debates.

[UNLoVedRebel]

I don't know that I've ever heard of him doing any live debates.
Well, at least he challenged someone to a live debate. We all know how that ended.

[240-185]

Has Griffin ever debated a debunker? I've tried to see if I can find something with him debating a debunker but I couldn't find any. I think even he know he has nothing.

There is a thread where Griffin was in Japan in order to make a speech when two guys publicly showed him he was unashamely lying. One of them is a JREF poster but I forgot his nick :(