Barack Obama never attended Columbia University

[MaGZ]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

[dtugg]

I know that you hate that a black man is going to be President, but he did go to Columbia. How exactly did he get into Harvard Law? Or do you think that that is all lies too?

[MaGZ]

I know that you hate that a black man is going to be President, but he did go to Columbia. How exactly did he get into Harvard Law? Or do you think that that is all lies too?

There is no real evidence Obama attended Columbia. A transcript was prepared and placed in “his file”. Ayers and his comrades have been opening doors for Obama preparing him to become president.

There is evidence Obama was at Occidental and Harvard but not at Columbia.

[dtugg]

So all it takes to get into Harvard Law School is a fake transcript?

[MaGZ]

So all it takes to get into Harvard Law School is a fake transcript?

We really don’t know how he go into Harvard. Most likely Bill Ayers and his comrades pulled some strings to get him in after Obama was doing community work in Chicago. This would have been a necessary first step in order for Obama to run for a high office.

[Chaos]

We really don’t know how he go into Harvard. Most likely Bill Ayers and his comrades pulled some strings to get him in after Obama was doing community work in Chicago. This would have been a necessary first step in order for Obama to run for a high office.

Alternative interpretation: The so-called "evidence" you presented is pile of crap so crappy I can smell it from 5,000 miles upwind, which was pushed for the sole purpose of demonizing a black man who aspired to have a job more prestigious than garbage collector - something that hardcore racists cannot and will not tolerate, and therefore fight tooth and nail, no matter how ridiculous the lies they have to pull out of their ass to do so.

[MaGZ]

So all it takes to get into Harvard Law School is a fake transcript?

...apparently a bit more.
Obama’s Harvard Years: Questions Swirl

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_sutton_saudi/2008/09/03/127490.html

[MaGZ]

Alternative interpretation: The so-called "evidence" you presented is pile of crap so crappy I can smell it from 5,000 miles upwind, which was pushed for the sole purpose of demonizing a black man who aspired to have a job more prestigious than garbage collector - something that hardcore racists cannot and will not tolerate, and therefore fight tooth and nail, no matter how ridiculous the lies they have to pull out of their ass to do so.

Why don’t you look at the evidence or in this case lack of evidence that Obama attended Columbia?

[Thunder]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

proof?
evidence?

you just can't handle it that a ****** is gonna be President, can ya?

Do not circumvent the auto-censor by disguising swear words.

[MaGZ]

proof?
evidence?

you just can't handle it that a ****** is gonna be President, can ya?

I accept he will eventually become President. Likewise he eventually will be exposed as a fraud.

[Thunder]

I accept he will eventually become President. Likewise he eventually will be exposed as a fraud.


where is your proof Obama did not attend Columbia?

where is your evidence his transcript is a fake and was planted by Ayers?

[MaGZ]

where is your proof Obama did not attend Columbia?

where is your evidence his transcript is a fake and was planted by Ayers?

Read the first link. Any real skeptic would have questions.

[Thunder]

my dad went to Columbia in the 1960s. he was shy and withdrawn. nobody remembers him either.

my mom went to Columbia in the late 1970s. nobody remembers her.

yet, we have their Master's Degrees on the livingroom wall.

[dtugg]

So it has been planned since at least the early '80s that Obama was to be President and they faked him going to Columbia to facilitate it? Am I getting this right?

[Horatius]

Read the first link. Any real skeptic would have questions.




And any real skeptic would have found the original source for Wayne Allyn Root's comments, which seems to be an interview with reason magazine. (http://www.reason.com/news/show/128461.html)


Which contains an explanation for why Mr. Root doesn't "know a single person at Columbia that knows him":


Welch: That's peculiar! Do you have any theories?

Root: Don't have any theories. I don't know. Don't know why. Kept to himself.... The only thing I could even imagine is that he talks in his biographies about being, you know, his identity crisis, his "am I black or am I white?" He chose black. And he hung out with a couple of black kids and never went near anybody and his wife? That's the only thing I can think of. All my buddies are white, what can I tell you! They don't know him, nobody's ever seen him, I don't know what to tell you.

Other guy: That's the era.

Root: That's the era. I mean, when I went to Columbia, the black kids were all at like tables going "Black Power!" We used to walk by and go, "What the hell are they talking about." And they didn't associate with us and we didn't associate with them. So if you track down a couple of black students, they'll probably know him. But nobody white's ever heard of this guy. It's quite amazing. Nobody remembers him. They don't remember him sitting in class.


So, you have a couple of racist nitwits quotemining a guy who admits he never hung out with the Black students - and claiming this is somehow significant.

Not that that will surprise any of us real skeptics.

[Thunder]

i dont remember many of the black kids at my college. there were thousands of them.

[timhau]

We really don’t know how he go into Harvard.

Or maybe we do,
and you're just full of poo.

[CptColumbo]

There were buildings on my campus I never went into, so there are probably students that I never saw. When I hung out, it was usually at the Performing Arts Center, and I never attended sporting events. It's possible that I was there at the same time as a future President and wouldn't remember them.

[CurtC]

MaGZ, what next? We find out that Obama's a secret Jew?

A crypto-Jew who attends a Christian church for 20 years, just to make people think he's a Muslim, who has an cabal of NWO agents planting birth certificates in Hawaii to cover up the fact that he was born in Kenya, and planting college transcripts into Columbia's records. They're so good that they actually taught him law while doing this, enough that he could actually teach constitutional law at an elite law school. Those guys are good.

[TjW]

One has to ask "Why?"
So far as I know, Columbia and Harvard are not actually prerequisites for the presidency.
There must be thousands of people who have attended prestigious schools.
Personally, if I were going to pick someone to use as a puppet president for my nefarious schemes, being lazy, I'd pick one whose credentials I didn't have to fake.

[BigAl]

Read the first link. Any real skeptic would have questions.
I'd look at the YearBook for the year he graduated and, assuming I found his name and picture in it, ask how it got there if he never attended.

The material you linked to is clear as mud. I can't figure out the logic
that allows you to make your assertion.

[sleeplessdwarf]

Boy, I would have to say the winner in this story is Ayers. Protesting his country's acts as a domestic terrorist to grooming and placing a future President of that same country is one heck of a step up. Someone who blows up a bomb with the hope of stopping just one day's bombing campaign in a war, doesn't seem to be someone who would have the patience to do a plan like MagZ suggest. But that is just my opinion. I'm sure Ayers has to be feeling proud that he is being considered such an influential person these days. :D

[fuelair]

Alternative interpretation: The so-called "evidence" you presented is pile of crap so crappy I can smell it from 5,000 miles upwind, which was pushed for the sole purpose of demonizing a black man who aspired to have a job more prestigious than garbage collector - something that hardcore racists cannot and will not tolerate, and therefore fight tooth and nail, no matter how ridiculous the lies they have to pull out of their ass to do so.
But, they are/have big enough anuses to do that!!!:D

[Chaos]

Why don’t you look at the evidence or in this case lack of evidence that Obama attended Columbia?

Edited for civility

[Nyarlathotep]

Alternative interpretation: The so-called "evidence" you presented is pile of crap so crappy I can smell it from 5,000 miles upwind, which was pushed for the sole purpose of demonizing a black man who aspired to have a job more prestigious than garbage collector - something that hardcore racists cannot and will not tolerate, and therefore fight tooth and nail, no matter how ridiculous the lies they have to pull out of their ass to do so.


You got it in one.

[Mojo]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University.


Can't you even use Google?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22barack+obama%22+site%3Awww.college.columbia.e du&btnG=Search&meta=

[Thunder]

why can't white supremacists atleast attempt to attack Obama on his beliefs..and not lie about his background?

[sleeplessdwarf]

because for the white super idiots it is important that they show how he does not measure up. I have stumbled into a few of their forums lately and they can not accept that Obama is far more intelligent than all of them. It is very amusing to listen to them attack his smarts while using the most backwoods form of english you could imagine.

[moon1969]

Obama is the new FDR. FDR was a coward and a liar.

[fuelair]

Obama is the new FDR. FDR was a coward and a liar.
:dl: :dl: :dl:

[sleeplessdwarf]

moon, was your move to the darkside a gradual one or were you always a CTist in the closet? Either way it is a sad thing to witness. Care to post why you think Obama is the "new" FDR? Or do we just have to read infowars to understand why you make this statement.

[Thunder]

Obama is the new FDR. FDR was a coward and a liar.

why was he a coward? he stood up to fascism. is this a cowardly thing?

would you prefer we let Hitler rampage through eastern Europe, "liberating" the peoples of the east of Soviet Jewish rule? hmmmmm...

how was he a liar? what did he lie about?

[Uzzy]

What evidence is there that Obama even existed? None I tell ya, None!

Its clear he's a hologram, controlled by the RAND Corporation, in order to bring power to the Reverse Vampires, who themselves control the Bilderburg group. It's obvious! You sheeple just need to open your eyes, etc etc.

[mikehh]

is Root the source of this... are we serious??

[Dubbi]

MaGZ,

Columbia isn't like your high school. It's not the same amount of people, nor is everyone on a mission to know everyone. Like any big university, no one student knows an amount anywhere close to a majority.

[gdnp]

Obama is the new FDR. FDR was a coward and a liar.

Please pay attention. The topic of the thread is whether Obama attended Columbia or not. It has nothing to do with FDR.

[gdnp]

What evidence is there that Obama even existed? None I tell ya, None!

Its clear he's a hologram, controlled by the RAND Corporation, ....

That would explain the glass panels around his inauguration speech...:jaw-dropp

[sleeplessdwarf]

I think this mean Barb Walters is a hologram too. I mean the chick is 80 years old. Do we really believe she look like she does? :D

[gdnp]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

It is quite interesting that for those 2 years that you claim Obama was not at Columbia University no one remembers him either. Oh, I get it, he was hanging out with others in his cell getting indoctrinated, and all the people who know him are in on the conspiracy. Never mind.

By the way, are Volker, Sumners, Geithner, Romer, and Orszag all in on the conspiracy? Are they all secretly radical communists trying to overthrow the government, or are they just pawns and dupes?

[Horatius]

is Root the source of this... are we serious??



Serious, but apparently ignored.....And quotemined, let's not forget!

[Thunder]

you know, if we finally prove that obama went to columbia, then they will say that he didnt go to harvard.

then they will say he really isnt black. then they will say he is really a satan worshipper.

then they will say he is really a jew. then they will say...

[fullflavormenthol]

So wait a minute. If I get this right...most of the "evidence" he didn't attend Columbia University was that no one remembers him? I mean correct me if I am wrong here? So if in 10 years no one remembers me attending Missouri State University, than I didn't graduate? What if no one remembers me going for my Masters at the University of Denver? If I decide to go for a Ph.D. at the University of Washington and no one knows who I am would that invalidate my degree? Since when do most people remember everyone that attended. Heck the people I remember most were the stoner kids, and none of them ever graduated, and I can't remember their names. I suppose they never attended?

[LightinDarkness]

You know, by accusing the CTers of being racists it doesn't make you anything but a political demagoguge. Pulling the race card out in response to either legitimate or illegitimate critcisim (and this is the later) against Obama is distasteful. It could just be they don't like his politics and in the usual CT mode make up stuff about him, you know.

I also do not like Obama. I study government for a living - getting a PhD in Public Administration, the administration of the public sector itself. My academic opinion is that all evidence points to his policies being an utter disaster. Just because I think so does not mean I am a racist, especially when I was involved in the movement to get Colin Powell to run.

HOWEVER, moving on to the CT - this is absolute nonsense. ANYONE who went to a large college and focused on studying is going to be a unknown to their classmates and their professors. I went to a small college of about 15,000 students so my graduating major class was anywhere from 25 (religious studies) to 150 (political science), I got a few degrees so it varies. I tried very hard to get good grades so I'd guess none of the students would remember me because I didn't socialize (to many degrees in too few years).

As someone who now has to TA for large sections of undergraduates at a top research school (not ivy league, but very close), none of the professors know any of the undergraduates unless they do something stupid or do so well on the stuff I have to grade that I mention it to the professor. The only way this would be odd is if he had a graduate degree, since graduate school requires a close relationship at least to your thesis adviser and committee. This has changed as masters degrees have gotten easier and programs are dropping the thesis requirement, but it would have been true in his time. I also didnt socialize much for my masters degree and no student would remember me, but the faculty would because I had to work with them or for them. However, his graduate degree is professional and professional programs (JDs and MBAs) have so many people they are much like undergraduate in that you don't get as much close time with faculty. I considered going to Harvard's MBA program after they admitted me until I saw the cattle call that was the everyday experience when I went to visit.

What happened is that Obama faded into the unwashed undergraduate masses at Columbia like most undergraduates. Like most, his grades probably were not enough to floor anyone, so that is why he isn't releasing transcripts.

[Hokulele]

You know, by accusing the CTers of being racists it doesn't make you anything but a political demagoguge.


Read a few more of MaGZ's threads and the articles he quotes from Metapedia.

He is a racist and thinks being called such is a compliment.

However, the rest of your post was spot on.

[LightinDarkness]

Read a few more of MaGZ's threads and the articles he quotes from Metapedia.

He is a racist and thinks being called such is a compliment.

However, the rest of your post was spot on.

Ah, I see now. All right, I retract that then. The OP does seem to have a dislike for Obama based on racism, and not politics or philosophy. It was a bit of a instant reaction from me because I have seen so many people who don't support Obama called racists simply because they don't support him - even African Americans. This guys posting history suggests differently though!

[MIKILLINI]

you know, if we finally prove that obama went to columbia, then they will say that he didnt go to harvard.

then they will say he really isnt black. then they will say he is really a satan worshipper.

then they will say he is really a jew. then they will say...

More ambiguous accusations of course. :words:

Ayers and company opening the doors for him to become President??? Gee Magz, any real skeptic would be really, really, really skeptical of that assumption.

[MIKILLINI]

Obama is the new FDR. FDR was a coward and a liar.

Are you, like, in a different thread than you think you are?

[GreNME]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

http://image.grenme.com/thread/NTSA.jpg

[Zep]

C'mon, folks! MaGZ is only stirring everyone for the lulz. He counts his "success" by how many of you don't get that and post "seriously" in response.

[MaGZ]

Serious, but apparently ignored.....And quotemined, let's not forget!

Fox News contacted 400 students at Columbia University who attended when Obama was supposedly a student then, but could not find anyone who remembers him. It is more than just Root who does not remember Obama at Columbia.

Again there is evidence Obama attended Occidental and Harvard but not Columbia.

[MaGZ]

MaGZ,

Columbia isn't like your high school. It's not the same amount of people, nor is everyone on a mission to know everyone. Like any big university, no one student knows an amount anywhere close to a majority.

If he attended, some of the professors would have remembered him. Where are they; why haven’t they came forward and to tell us how brilliant Obama was?

[jhunter1163]

If he attended, some of the professors would have remembered him. Where are they; why haven’t they came forward and to tell us how brilliant Obama was?

As LightInDarkness said, maybe he wasn't an outstanding student. Maybe he was a solid B- or C+ student. That doesn't mean he didn't attend.

[MaGZ]

you know, if we finally prove that obama went to columbia, then they will say that he didnt go to harvard.

then they will say he really isnt black. then they will say he is really a satan worshipper.

then they will say he is really a jew. then they will say...

Just find someone who knew him as a student at Columbia. If he attended, you could find someone. It shouldn’t be that hard. This conspiracy theory could easily be dismissed if someone turned up who knew Obama at Columbia.

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.

[MaGZ]

As LightInDarkness said, maybe he wasn't an outstanding student. Maybe he was a solid B- or C+ student. That doesn't mean he didn't attend.

Don’t you find it a bit curious Obama lived in several slum apartments with a Pakistani drug addict instead of on campus at Columbia?

[timhau]

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.

Yeah, none, except for manufactured fake stuff like Columbia counting him as an alumnus (http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency). Which means they're also in on it, whatever the it du jour is.

It's just funny how incompetent these conspirators are; they forged the files at Columbia to show that Obama attended the university, yet they neglected to brainwash, bribe, or blackmail any real Columbia alumni to claim that they knew Obama back in the day.

[jhunter1163]

A quick investigoogle finds a statement FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY that Mr. Obama did in fact graduate in 1983, without honors. He is listed in the 1983 commencement program.

Columbia isn't like an online diploma mill; to get a degree, you have to show up and do some work. This looks to me like Obama squeaked through Columbia, got into Harvard Law with a little help, and applied himself once he got there as he did graduate with honors from Harvard. Doesn't that explain why he plays down his Columbia experience and plays up his Harvard time?

[jhunter1163]

Don’t you find it a bit curious Obama lived in several slum apartments with a Pakistani drug addict instead of on campus at Columbia?

No. As long as he pays his half of the rent I could care less what my roommate does.

[MaGZ]

You know, by accusing the CTers of being racists it doesn't make you anything but a political demagoguge. Pulling the race card out in response to either legitimate or illegitimate critcisim (and this is the later) against Obama is distasteful. It could just be they don't like his politics and in the usual CT mode make up stuff about him, you know.

I also do not like Obama. I study government for a living - getting a PhD in Public Administration, the administration of the public sector itself. My academic opinion is that all evidence points to his policies being an utter disaster. Just because I think so does not mean I am a racist, especially when I was involved in the movement to get Colin Powell to run.

HOWEVER, moving on to the CT - this is absolute nonsense. ANYONE who went to a large college and focused on studying is going to be a unknown to their classmates and their professors. I went to a small college of about 15,000 students so my graduating major class was anywhere from 25 (religious studies) to 150 (political science), I got a few degrees so it varies. I tried very hard to get good grades so I'd guess none of the students would remember me because I didn't socialize (to many degrees in too few years).

As someone who now has to TA for large sections of undergraduates at a top research school (not ivy league, but very close), none of the professors know any of the undergraduates unless they do something stupid or do so well on the stuff I have to grade that I mention it to the professor. The only way this would be odd is if he had a graduate degree, since graduate school requires a close relationship at least to your thesis adviser and committee. This has changed as masters degrees have gotten easier and programs are dropping the thesis requirement, but it would have been true in his time. I also didnt socialize much for my masters degree and no student would remember me, but the faculty would because I had to work with them or for them. However, his graduate degree is professional and professional programs (JDs and MBAs) have so many people they are much like undergraduate in that you don't get as much close time with faculty. I considered going to Harvard's MBA program after they admitted me until I saw the cattle call that was the everyday experience when I went to visit.

What happened is that Obama faded into the unwashed undergraduate masses at Columbia like most undergraduates. Like most, his grades probably were not enough to floor anyone, so that is why he isn't releasing transcripts.

Why would he be remembered at Occidental and not Columbia?


The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama's time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won't, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan's Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn — one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan's Upper East Side.



http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=F1C46FDE-3048-5C12-00ED1702A906DC5F

[timhau]

From here (http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency):

Obama, who was profiled in Columbia College Today in January 2005 when he burst upon the national political scene, transferred to Columbia from Occidental prior to his junior year.

I don't really know how college transfers work in the US, but doesn't that mean that he was in Columbia for two years, not the full four?

[funk de fino]

Just find someone who knew him as a student at Columbia. If he attended, you could find someone. It shouldn’t be that hard. This conspiracy theory could easily be dismissed if someone turned up who knew Obama at Columbia.

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.

If it so easy you could have done it and prevented another embarrassing thread like this one.

This will be another one the bigot slinks away from with foot in mouth.

[dtugg]

Why don't you just move out of the country, Nazi. I mean, a ******* is going to be President of the United States. I don't know how it could be worse then that. Well, at least he is not a Jooo, I guess. Or maybe he is?

[funk de fino]

Well, at least he is not a Jooo, I guess. Or maybe he is?

By MaGZ logic this just depends on wherever your parents decide to retire to as to whether you are actually a jew or not.

Not on your parents religion, or your name, or your ancestry, just whether there are a lot of jews near your parents.

[MaGZ]

Yeah, none, except for manufactured fake stuff like Columbia counting him as an alumnus (http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency). Which means they're also in on it, whatever the it du jour is.

It's just funny how incompetent these conspirators are; they forged the files at Columbia to show that Obama attended the university, yet they neglected to brainwash, bribe, or blackmail any real Columbia alumni to claim that they knew Obama back in the day.

I’m not arguing there is no transcript in his “file” at Columbia. That phony transcript was planted. Of course Columbia would claim him as a graduate if he appeared to have a transcript and record of graduation.

The current registrars would not necessarily be part of the conspiracy, just unaware a transcript had been planted.

[Agatha]

Just find someone who knew him as a student at Columbia. If he attended, you could find someone. It shouldn’t be that hard. This conspiracy theory could easily be dismissed if someone turned up who knew Obama at Columbia.

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.if you read the comments on the blog post to which you yourself linked you will see one from someone claiming to have been at Columbia and remembering Obama there at that time. The comment is at least as weighty a piece of evidence as the blog post. So there you go, by your own assessment we can now dismiss this conspiracy theory.

[MaGZ]

A quick investigoogle finds a statement FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY that Mr. Obama did in fact graduate in 1983, without honors. He is listed in the 1983 commencement program.

Columbia isn't like an online diploma mill; to get a degree, you have to show up and do some work. This looks to me like Obama squeaked through Columbia, got into Harvard Law with a little help, and applied himself once he got there as he did graduate with honors from Harvard. Doesn't that explain why he plays down his Columbia experience and plays up his Harvard time?

I think this blog explaines it better.

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

What we know is that a Columbia spokesman has confirmed that Obama attended Columbia. If we're lucky, this means precisely one thing: someone at Columbia went over to a file cabinet, opened it, and found a file that looked basically right. Which is more likely: that no one remembers one of the most articulate and talented black students on an Ivy League campus? Or that someone planted a file or two?

[MaGZ]

From here (http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency):



I don't really know how college transfers work in the US, but doesn't that mean that he was in Columbia for two years, not the full four?

Obama was two years at Occidental and then supposedly transferred to Columbia where it is alleged he attended classes. Your link merely repeats previously reported erroneous information that Obama was a student, but provides no real proof or evidence.

[MaGZ]

if you read the comments on the blog post to which you yourself linked you will see one from someone claiming to have been at Columbia and remembering Obama there at that time. The comment is at least as weighty a piece of evidence as the blog post. So there you go, by your own assessment we can now dismiss this conspiracy theory.

Ted Rall places Obama visiting the campus and working with the Black Student Organization, however this does not mean Obama attended classes as a student at Columbia.

With further research it appears Ted Rall is part of the conspiracy and therefore anything he claims is suspect.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1845

[MaGZ]

Is Obama hiding something from his college days?
Some link mystery years to Ayers, others believe affirmative action at play

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76504

[dtugg]

Stop trolling, you are not going to convince anybody of anything except for how much you hate the fact that a black guy is going to be the most powerful man in the world.

[MaGZ]

Stop trolling, you are not going to convince anybody of anything except for how much you hate the fact that a black guy is going to be the most powerful man in the world.

Why not try to debunk this conspiracy theory? Please provide some evidence Obama attended classes at Columbia.

[dtugg]

Why not try to debunk this conspiracy theory? Please provide some evidence Obama attended classes at Columbia.

I don't need to prove anything. The only reason that you are spreading this is because you are a racist. That is clear to everybody.

[jhunter1163]

MaGZ:

Why would Columbia lie about Obama going there? What's in it for them?

[MaGZ]

MaGZ:

Why would Columbia lie about Obama going there? What's in it for them?

The present and previous administrators at Columbia would not be lying for Obama. I am sure they are sincere in believing Obama attended classes and graduated. They simply are unaware a phony transcript is in Obama's record.

[timhau]

I want MaGZ to provide evidence that he's not Sammy Davis Jr.

I've never seen anyone claim that they've actually met MaGZ and that he's not Sammy Davis Jr. It should be easy to debunk this conspiracy theory, yet nobody has done so. Why?

[Mojo]

The present and previous administrators at Columbia would not be lying for Obama. I am sure they are sincere in believing Obama attended classes and graduated. They simply are unaware a phony transcript is in Obama's record.


Why would anyone else lie about Obama going to Columbia? Even if going to Columbia was necessary in order to become President (and it doesn't seem likely as previous incumbents don't appear to have gone there), why recruit a candidate that needs all these conspiracies and forgeries, with the associated risks of discovery? Why not just recruit a candidate who actually had been to Columbia? This is a remarkably stupid conspiracy theory.

[Dubbi]

"“Mostly, my years at Columbia were an intense period of study,” he says. “When I transferred, I decided to buckle down and get serious. I spent a lot of time in the library. I didn’t socialize that much. I was like a monk.”"

source: http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php

[Dubbi]

"One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”"

source:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=print

MaGZ,

Will you now lick my balls?

[dtugg]

LOL. Obviously Baron and Wolf are lying and part of the conspiracy. Or at least that is the only way our Nazi friend can keep up his charade.

[Horatius]

...Zbigniew Brzezinski...


MaGZ,

Will you now lick my balls?


I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that he won't be doing any ball-licking.


Gotta keep those goal posts moving!

[Wowbagger]

I want MaGZ to provide evidence that he's not Sammy Davis Jr.

I've never seen anyone claim that they've actually met MaGZ and that he's not Sammy Davis Jr. It should be easy to debunk this conspiracy theory, yet nobody has done so. Why? Funny, you never see MaGZ and Sammy Davis, Jr. in the same room, together. Why is that?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

Damn, you figured it out! You must have a giant brain.

[Horatius]

Fox News contacted 400 students at Columbia University who attended when Obama was supposedly a student then, but could not find anyone who remembers him. It is more than just Root who does not remember Obama at Columbia.

Again there is evidence Obama attended Occidental and Harvard but not Columbia.



You know, I was all geared up to debunk the Fox News thing, when a funny thing happened.





I couldn't find the original source for this alleged survey. Perhaps MaGZ could link us to it, since he thinks it exists?

I mean, it being one of the two pieces of "evidence" that this theory is based on, and the other piece of evidence having been shown to be misrepresented, this survey must be absolutely devastating, to make up for that, right? Right? I mean, racist nitwits with an agenda who have been shown to have misrepresented one bit of evidence wouldn't just make up some other bits of evidence, right? Right?


So, how about it MaGZ, can you link me to this Fox News piece?

[abenja1]

We really don’t know how he go into Harvard. Most likely Bill Ayers and his comrades pulled some strings to get him in after Obama was doing community work in Chicago. This would have been a necessary first step in order for Obama to run for a high office.

Tell Jimmy Carter that.

[abenja1]

Just find someone who knew him as a student at Columbia. If he attended, you could find someone. It shouldn’t be that hard. This conspiracy theory could easily be dismissed if someone turned up who knew Obama at Columbia.

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.

If someone was found, you would probably say there were planted.

[twinstead]

Wow. Just wow. MaGZ you pretty much believe anything you read on the internet don't you (as long as it supports your world view of course).

And you think WE are the sheep?? LOL

[8den]

Wow. Just wow. MaGZ you pretty much believe anything you read on the internet don't you (as long as it supports your world view of course).

And you think WE are the sheep?? LOL

How exactly do you get to the editor of the Harvard Law Review, without a law degree?

[Biscuit]

Just find someone who knew him as a student at Columbia. If he attended, you could find someone. It shouldn’t be that hard. This conspiracy theory could easily be dismissed if someone turned up who knew Obama at Columbia.

As I said earlier, there is no real evidence Obama ever attended Columbia.

How about William Araiza?

People who knew him around that time describe a reserved, monkish man, uninterested in the extracurriculars of New York student life: bars, socializing, gossiping. William Araiza was in a political-science seminar with Obama their senior year, and what he remembers most is Obama's detachment. "I don't want to imply he was intentionally aloof, he just seemed like he wasn't part of the college gang," Araiza says. "He was the kind of guy who didn't live in the dorms, didn't hang out on campus."

From http://news.uk.msn.com/newsweek.aspx?cp-documentid=8876786


You may now lick my balls as well.

[gdnp]

So whaddaya think, MaGZ, we now have several posts from people who remember Obama from Columbia. Are these people part of the conspiracy, or are you convinced?

Oh, and have you found a reference to that Fox News survey of Columbia undergrads yet?

[MIKILLINI]

"One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”"

source:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=print



Hey Magz, are Wolf and Baron lying about Obama? I'm sure you have checked to see if either one of them attended Columbia, haven't you?

[firecoins]

Obama went to Columbia. There is no doubt.

[EventHorizon]

This is a remarkably stupid conspiracy theory.

MaGZ and "remarkably stupid" go hand in hand.

[Zep]

What, is this yet ANOTHER thread where some people actually took notice of MaGZ's provocative ramblings?

[MIKILLINI]

Perhaps I'm to optimistic in thinking maybe this time Magz will admit he's been debunked and proven wrong.
It seems that his lack of response lately is as close to admission of being wrong as he'll ever get.

Is that it Magz? You just ignore the thread (Created by you) after your conspiracy has been shot full of holes?

[Foolmewunz]

Good one, MaGZ!

If you get these articles just after they've been plopped, warm and steamy, in the meadow it takes us all of 1.5 pages to totally thrash you. When you stick with older historical topics, that's generally only about four posts.

Others.... don't be betting on MaGZ' return to this thread. The general modus operandi is to post something outrageous, accuse everyone of being fake debunkers for as many posts as possible... until the person with the correct info comes along, then disappear to fight again another day. Sort of our own little Francis Marion. (Francis? That sounds like a Jewish name.... Hmmmm? Swamp Lox, Swamp Lox, tail on his hat.....)

[Horatius]

What, is this yet ANOTHER thread where some people actually took notice of MaGZ's provocative ramblings?




The problem is, it isn't just "MaGZ's provocative ramblings". He gets this crap from other websites, and there is more that one place repeating this crap.

In fact, MaGZ has, albeit inadvertently, done us a service, by bringing to light yet another piece of Internet BS for us to debunk. Without his obsessive need to find (and publicize) excuses reasons to hate Obama, we normal people might never have heard about it, and as such, would never have blown it out of the water so easily.

[Bobert]

So it has been planned since at least the early '80s that Obama was to be President and they faked him going to Columbia to facilitate it? Am I getting this right?
Well of course they "put him" in Harverd.
Wow then he became the first Black man to head the Harvard law review?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2008/09/barack-obama-ha.html
That must have been rigged as well.
Then they rigged the election so Obama would win.
Suuuuuuuuuuuure buuuuuuuuddy

[applecorped]

Alternative interpretation: The so-called "evidence" you presented is pile of crap so crappy I can smell it from 5,000 miles upwind,


That would be New Jersey.:rolleyes:

[Dr Adequate]

This thread may well be the most Epic Nazi Fail since Hitler shot himself in the head.

[Horatius]

This thread may well be the most Epic Nazi Fail since Hitler shot himself in the head.



I'd categorize that one as a success, myself, but then, I'm no fan of Hitler.


;)

[Arus808]

exactly how big is Columbia? How many students attend at various levels of study?

My high school for my junior and senior year, was over 600 students in the class. i only attended for two years and made only about 80 friends ( i was attending another high school but transferred to my graduating high school for my last two years). I went to my 10th reunion and RECOGNIZED only 3 of the 100 that attended. I didn't know anyone else there.


thats only a class size of 600...


considering a university, we are talking about thousands of students; classes that can be as big as 80 - 100 students....

[dudalb]

Good one, MaGZ!

If you get these articles just after they've been plopped, warm and steamy, in the meadow it takes us all of 1.5 pages to totally thrash you. When you stick with older historical topics, that's generally only about four posts.

Others.... don't be betting on MaGZ' return to this thread. The general modus operandi is to post something outrageous, accuse everyone of being fake debunkers for as many posts as possible... until the person with the correct info comes along, then disappear to fight again another day. Sort of our own little Francis Marion. (Francis? That sounds like a Jewish name.... Hmmmm? Swamp Lox, Swamp Lox, tail on his hat.....)


If only the Nazis in the 1940's had been as easy to beat the crap out of as MaGZ.....

[Bobert]

It is pretty scarey the lengths that MaGZ will go to in order to justiy his hatred of Obama and probably also the rest of the blacks on the planet.
I am sure that the government is going step up its monitoring of hate groups now that Obama is president.

[Travis]

So, any files saying Obama went to Columbia are planted and people who say they remember him there are lying?

Has someone been running the auto-conspiracy-generator at Stormfront again?

[Bobert]

If someone was found, you would probably say there were planted.
Bingo!
Because lack of evidence is of course PROOF and evidence that is presented is planted and you CANNOT trust the evidence anyway if it came directly from CU!

[funk de fino]

MaGz??

[Skeptic]

There is no real evidence Obama attended Columbia.

Well, apart from Columbia University's official statements, and other people like that. But what the hell do THEY know. I am by no means an Obama fan, and I find his hero-worshipping absurd, but MaGZ's nonsense is just silly.

[fullflavormenthol]

Look I go to a small University in the middle of nowhere with only around 10,000 students. It is completely possible that ten years from now someone could "survey" 500 of them and find not one person that remembers me. Hell, if you called me and asked about a specific student I probably wouldn't know, even if I had a class with them every day. I don't know names very well.

I work as a student manager at the television station here, and chances are that years from now I won't remember students that I have personally instructed in video editing. College is stressful, and as you get more into it your drinking and partying days stop, and you eventually don't know anyone.

[Skeptic]

Don’t you find it a bit curious Obama lived in several slum apartments with a Pakistani drug addict instead of on campus at Columbia?

Oh my God!

A college student LIVES OFF CAMPUS in a CHEAP APARTMENT with a POTHEAD ROOMIE!

That never happened before!

What more proof do you need he's a fake?

[skepticalcriticalguy]

I am by no means an Obama fan, and I find his hero-worshipping absurd,

I find it absurd that people think there is mass hero-worshipping going on with him. Besides a few fanatical freaks out there, most people I know voted for him, because they didn't want to reward the Republicans for the past 8 years. That's it. Not sheeple, not ignorant, not blind.

[Skeptic]

I didn't *say* "sheeple" or "Ignorant" or "Blind". But I know quite a few people going nuts (figuratively) over his election.

The reason is that his election shows that, yes, a black man and son of an immigrant *CAN* become president in the USA. That is certainly a reason for, if not pride exactly, for satisfaction. Apart from that I can see why Black people in the USA, and the world for that matter, are happy that "one of them" was elected -- Jews or Italians or whomever would feel the same.

The problem is that, so far, Obama's positive qualities are largely symbolic. His record, certainly honorable for a private individual, is in my view not enough for the POTUS. It is not, after all, the "first black president" who must deal with Iran, say, but the president, period.

[Redtail]

I didn't *say* "sheeple" or "Ignorant" or "Blind". But I know quite a few people going nuts (figuratively) over his election.

The reason is that his election shows that, yes, a black man and son of an immigrant *CAN* become president in the USA. That is certainly a reason for, if not pride exactly, for satisfaction. Apart from that I can see why Black people in the USA, and the world for that matter, are happy that "one of them" was elected -- Jews or Italians or whomever would feel the same.

The problem is that, so far, Obama's positive qualities are largely symbolic. His record, certainly honorable for a private individual, is in my view not enough for the POTUS. It is not, after all, the "first black president" who must deal with Iran, say, but the president, period.

Which "Black President" had to deal with Iran before him?

[Darkhole]

I want MaGZ to provide evidence that he's not Sammy Davis Jr.

I've never seen anyone claim that they've actually met MaGZ and that he's not Sammy Davis Jr. It should be easy to debunk this conspiracy theory, yet nobody has done so. Why?
And his 3000+ posts are planted.

[skepticalcriticalguy]

It is not, after all, the "first black president" who must deal with Iran, say, but the president, period.

Right, very true. And people voted for his approach over the "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran (chuckle chortle)" guy.

Calculated votes from educated people, not hysterical zombies. (I know, you didn't say those words either).

[beachnut]

Barack Obama never attended Columbia University. He moved to New York City on advice of Frank Marshall Davis and meet Bill Ayers who became Obama’s new political mentor, molding him into a modern day Manchurian candidate.

Obama never lived on campus or attended classes at Columbia. Nobody at Columbia remembers him. Ayers with his contacts at Columbia had a phony transcript prepared and placed in the registrar’s office. Later on, Ayers would ghost-write Obama’ first book.

Did Barack Obama go to Columbia?
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-barack-obama-go-to-columbia.html

You white supremacy guys need better research. You know it makes you look bad posting stupid junk.

[CORed]

Actually, the "evidence" for the claim is that one person says that nobody remembers Obama. Devastating.