UFO spotted (pic)

[GreyWanderer]

This appeared in a local Norwegian newspaper:

http://www.sognavis.no/multimedia/archive/00332/fresvik_lys_332130g.jpg

http://www.sognavis.no/lokale_nyhende/article786668.ece

[Blondin]

Well it looks like the kind of picture you get when you try to use a flash to take a picture through a window.

[CFLarsen]

This is a reflection of a laser pointer in the car window.

We don't know the distance to the object, or the size of the object. Therefore, it is impossible to say anything about either. That they try to estimate its height (50 m high) is not evidence of anything.

However, if we venture a guess, the bright object would be somewhere out hovering over the water. Where is the reflection of the object in the water? There is none.

An object as bright as this does not illuminate the banks of the fjord?

Look at the reddish area just around the bright light. It is far more pixellated than the surrounding area. A laser pointer pointing directly at a glass car front window would diffract exactly like that (try it yourself, BUT WEAR VERY DARK SUNGLASSES!!).

There are also some very odd aspects of this. They "forget" that they took a picture? They "forget" that the film roll was in the drawer for two years? We don't hear from the other witnesses?

Big. Red. Flags.

[c0rbin]

C'mon, Claus, you mean it's not aliens!?!

I for one am shocked.

[patnray]

It also looks out of focus, like some cameras that focus on the glass when you try to shoot through a window..

[Diezel]

Just the fact that there are people in this world that could look at this picture and not see it as just bad photography scares the bejesus out of me!

I can understand some of the "better" pictures that may fool some people, but this is just bad.

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Diezel
Just the fact that there are people in this world that could look at this picture and not see it as just bad photography scares the bejesus out of me!

I can understand some of the "better" pictures that may fool some people, but this is just bad.

An incredibly slow ' news ' day...

Norway should try to get involved in a war somewhere.. It looks like they ( at least one paper, anyway ) are hurting for news-worthy photos...

[Diezel]

Originally posted by Diogenes


An incredibly slow ' news ' day...

Norway should try to get involved in a war somewhere.. It looks like they ( at least one paper, anyway ) are hurting for news-worthy photos...

Yea, I guess your right and need to remember this. Hell, even a couple flats tires claimed to be a miracle hit the papers in Texas today. :)

[LawnOven]

oh my god, aliens. None of the other pictures I've seen really convienced me, but this one really does it for me. That's aliens; it has to be.

Oh great alien heros, show us the way to world peace and free energy.

[tim]

Sigh. It's the same old story, isn't it? You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear. You want to see a saucer? That's what your gonna see. Sigh.

[Wyvern]

I see a bald wombat, and I really didn't want to :confused:

[Bikewer]

Note to HQ....Cloaking device malfunctioning again.

[NightG1]

I clicked on the link but I have no idea what "Fresvikjer blenda av lys fem kilometer unna" is supposed to mean.

[Ed]

Originally posted by NightG1
I clicked on the link but I have no idea what "Fresvikjer blenda av lys fem kilometer unna" is supposed to mean.

It means "The Mammoths are approaching to within a few kilometers". Kilometer is a distance measure used in some third world countries.


BTW, no Scandinavian will give you the real poop on this. It is like Arafat speaking Arabic to his buddies and English to outsiders.

What are they hiding with those umlouts and thornes and things, hmmmmmmmm?

[Tony]

Im convinced. ;)

[ADD Boy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
An object as bright as this does not illuminate the banks of the fjord?


Of course not! It uses a special form of light undiscovered by human beings! It emits light that it is only perceived by human eyes! No photons are emitted! Their technology is far superior! :D

[Ed]

Originally posted by ADD Boy


Of course not! It uses a special form of light undiscovered by human beings! It emits light that it is only perceived by human eyes! No photons are emitted! Their technology is far superior! :D

Right!! The fact that you can't see it just proves that it is extraterrestrial.

Claus...your email is bust!!

[Ove]

Forget the laser pointer, it is simply a mirror image of the sun rising behind him. If you look at some of the peaks in the background you can see that the sun is rising.What are they hiding with those umlouts and thornes and things, hmmmmmmmm?

Trust me you wouldn't want to know.;)

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Ove
Forget the laser pointer, it is simply a mirror image of the sun rising behind him. If you look at some of the peaks in the background you can see that the sun is rising.

Whatever it is, it looks to me like it's lying on the ground. Could be molten lava. Any volcanos in Norway?

If it's aliens, they could be from someplace nearby, such as Denmark. :p

[peptoabysmal]

Swamp Gas!

[tim]

Originally posted by Wyvern
I see a bald wombat, and I really didn't want to :confused:

Now see here Wyvern, it was a comment like this that started the dreadful Combat Wombat War of '03. It divided this forum and even to this day there is bitterness between factions. I'm sorry to say that Renata can't get past it and is still trying to get her devotees to shave wombats as some sort of initiation ceremony.
It is time to move on! ManfredvonRichthoffen is also stuck in the past - just look at the aircraft he flies!

And anyway, someone who hides behind the avatar of a cat when they look like the picture below has to be suspect....................

[Ove]

If you compare the profile at the two arrows i have placed you will see they are identical. It is painfully obvious that he has photographed the reflection of the sun behind him while taking a picture of the mountain the sun shines at.

[Ove]

This image:

[MRC_Hans]

Ove: Not that I doubt that your theory is right, but could you explain? What profiles?

It is obviously not a laser pointer, since laser pointers are red. Even if a film overload had occured making the main spot white, the scattered light at the edges would be red.

Hans

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Ove
If you compare the profile at the two arrows i have placed you will see they are identical. It is painfully obvious that he has photographed the reflection of the sun behind him while taking a picture of the mountain the sun shines at.

The question remains, what is doing the reflecting?

[MRC_Hans]

Car window. Or, perhaps more likely, bus window.


Hans

[Ove]

The shape of the shadow. The UFO is a mirror image (in a car window) of the sun peeking above a mountain and that mountain has the same shape as the shadow on the mountainside.

[GreyWanderer]

Ove, you're a genious. (:

[Ove]

Ove, you're a genious. (:

Come now......... anybody could have......... Thank you http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/rotwerd.gif :halo:

[a_unique_person]

They have a picture? Well I guess that settles it. Bring me my white sneakers and kool aid.

[Pakaran]

It looks to me like someone shot a roman candle sideways, or at a shallow angle, from out of the picture.

For that matter, you could get a similiar effect by carefully cracking the glass of a light bulb and turning it on, and photographing the burning filament.

[Pakaran]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
This is a reflection of a laser pointer in the car window.

We don't know the distance to the object, or the size of the object. Therefore, it is impossible to say anything about either. That they try to estimate its height (50 m high) is not evidence of anything.

However, if we venture a guess, the bright object would be somewhere out hovering over the water. Where is the reflection of the object in the water? There is none.

An object as bright as this does not illuminate the banks of the fjord?

Look at the reddish area just around the bright light. It is far more pixellated than the surrounding area. A laser pointer pointing directly at a glass car front window would diffract exactly like that (try it yourself, BUT WEAR VERY DARK SUNGLASSES!!).

There are also some very odd aspects of this. They "forget" that they took a picture? They "forget" that the film roll was in the drawer for two years? We don't hear from the other witnesses?

Big. Red. Flags.

It looks like it could be something as simple as a drop of developer left on for a length of time.

As for the sunglasses... most laser pointers are class III lasers, so you can probably safely look at them for SOME length of time.

There was a study of shining laser pointers at people whose eyes were to be removed for cancer anyhow, and no permanent damage resulted after up to like 15 minutes.

As for not illuminating the banks - obviously their cloaking device fell only slightly out of tune, and began blocking only indirect light. I'm sure some alien got a bad performance review for the maintence. :)

[iSani]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal
Swamp Gas!
No, that's clearly the planet Venus. Oh, that sneaky Venus, always showing up where people can't identify it... :)

[CERDIP]

Land Shark !

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Randi made the crab people do this!

:crazy:

[plindboe]

It looks like a sunset to me, the light itself I mean. Can't it be a reflection in the air, like a fatamorgana/mirage kind of event? I believe it has something to do with varying density of the air, that creates the reflection. Perhabs the real sunset is happening behind the hill to the right and is being reflected over the lake.

[showme2]

Why on earth are you all debating a stupid photo that could be of ANYTHING ???

I'm quite interested in UFOs, Roswell, and stuff like that.
But even I wouldn't give a second's credibility to a photo like THAT.

It doesn't even do us the courtesy of looking like a frisby-ed hubcap !

[plindboe]

Originally posted by showme2
Why on earth are you all debating a stupid photo that could be of ANYTHING ???


If they saw this over the lake as the witnesses claim, I think it's an interesting phenonemon, and personally I find it more interesting to try to figure out what caused it, than the average ufo picture out there.

But if you have a more interesting picture you would like to discuss with people, then feel free to start a thread about it.

[Ove]

If they saw this over the lake as the witnesses claim, I think it's an interesting phenonemon, and personally I find it more interesting to try to figure out what caused it, than the average ufo picture out there.

If they saw this over the lake it would be contributed to that age old norwegian tradition: "HJEMMEBRÆNDT" (home brewed alcohol). As somebody once said: "If all the yeast sold in Norway was used to bake bread you could end world hunger here and now". ;)

No my theory is that they saw the picture and said "Hey that could look like an UFO picture let's see if we can make some money on it". So far they've succeded. ;)

[clk]

Too bad Latin and Carlos aren't here. They could've made this thread really interesting. That's OK, though, I'll take their place:

"it is camera flash reflection" , that is just your assumption , as others members assumptions: missile, bug , blur of the camera ,lens dirty, etc, etc.
You all are wrong.
I understand that is difficult for some JREF members, administrators and moderators to admit their own faults. They "think" they are always right. They "think" they are intelligents and specials . They will never realize that are just humans in this little world.
You think I am stupid, but I have proof.

[Yeah_Right]

Irrefutible evidence as far as I am concerned, and I welcome our alien over-lords! lol

[Yeah_Right]

Irrefutable evidence as far as I am concerned, and I, for one, welcome our alien over-lords lol

[wipeout]

Originally posted by GreyWanderer
This appeared in a local Norwegian newspaper:

http://www.sognavis.no/multimedia/archive/00332/fresvik_lys_332130g.jpg

http://www.sognavis.no/lokale_nyhende/article786668.ece

It looks to me like a streetlight. :)

Notice the dark vertical lines just to the right of the light. It could be a slightly blurred single line if the camera moved or rotated horizontally. The light could be a line and blurred in the same way.

I mean a streetlight like this one below (but with left and right reversed):

http://www.fortworthgov.org/tpw/graphics/StLight.jpg

[jimmygun]

I am both convinced and confused. I mean it is obviously an alien space ship but nowhere in the article does it say where to send my money!:can:

[showme2]

Look .... I believe that (some) mediums can communicate with the (so-called) dead.

But even I cannot give any credibility at all to this photo of a light over a lake !

C'mon .... let's get real here ! It could be any one of a number of explanations, apart from aliens fancying a bit of fishing ??????

[jimmygun]

Showme2...What you are saying is that you are as gullible as they come and that even you don't think the pic is real?:can:

[volant]

Looks like they took a photo of a picture.

[showme2]

jimmygun

Yep ! ... If you like, I may be gullible ... but not THAT gullible !

[Iamme]

It's a UFO whose ion propulsion system is causing the craft to heat up and glow. It is flying at ultrasonic speeds. There is no reflection in the water because they have technology that allows for horizontal ion flux. Notice the curved vertical shock waves to the left of the craft. The aliens at the controls are frantically trying to save the ship by sucking water up to it from the lake. See? Look at photo carefully.

[Ove]

It looks to me like a streetlight.

I think you are spot on.:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Undodog]

I think you were right with your sunset answer, Ove.

Besides - aren't we acting like the believers when we say 'its clearly a laser pen', 'its clearly a streetlamp', 'its clearly this', 'its clearly that'?*

Its clearly NOT a UFO.
Lets leave it at that without making ourselves look like we're just stabbing in the dark with creative guesses like they do.


(*I'm paraphrasing and dont mean any disrespect)

[Ove]

I think you were right with your sunset answer, Ove.

Yep, the sunset would explain the light/shadow on the mountain in the background however your streetlamp gives a nice explanation on the light itself.;)

Its clearly NOT a UFO.
Lets leave it at that without making ourselves look like we're just stabbing in the dark with creative guesses like they do.


Quite, i get your point i just think a lot of sceptics automatically start the de-bunking trail when thay see anything "mystical" and it is ohh so easy to get carried away.:D

[jimmygun]

Showme2...I may be pregnant but not that pregnant.


:can:

[showme2]

No Jimmygun
There are degrees of gullibility.
There are no degrees of pregnancy (unless you are a cat!)