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Travis
1st December 2008, 02:44 AM
December is now upon us and I want some Stundie nominees that will match the spirit of whatever holiday you enjoy or wage war on (except those that celebrate the holiday Nihlisticus Melancholistus who I urge to communicate nothing that captures the spirit of their holiday) and so now the fundamentals:

1) Posts must be about Conspiracy Theories and not just nutty things in general.

2) Posts must exhibit ignorance, faulty logic or stupendous arrogance mixed with an ironic mistake.

3) No spelling errors, typos, grammar issues or math mix-ups unless they are deliciously ironic.

4) Posts must be humorous and not just something you disagree with.

5) All nominated posts must have some sort of link or screenshot to prove the reality of the post and it's source.

6) Keep the introductions short and sweet as Stundies should not need too much background.

7) Nominated posts should be cut down to the nominated part which should be concise and stand on its own.

8) This is not the place for ad hominems so a post should be funny independent of knowing who it is that said it.

9) Pictures are not allowed on their own but descriptions of pictures, provided they meet all other previously stated requirements, are allowed.

10) Videos are not allowed on their own but transcripts of videos, provided they meet all other previously stated requirements, are allowed even if you personally did the transcribing.



If you have issues with the Stundies existing please don't clutter up this thread with them and take them instead to Forum Management. (http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=19)

Dave Rogers
1st December 2008, 03:52 AM
Let's kick off the month with a beauty from finalmessenger, implying that all aluminium and iron oxide should be identifiable back to a specific batch.

Jones stated that thermite was a "clever" choice because its ingredients, aluminum and iron oxide do not require identifying tags by law, meaning they couldn't be traced back to their manufacturers.

When rust is outlawed, will only outlaws rust?

Dave

Travis
1st December 2008, 05:32 AM
Do they put any identifying tags in any explosive? I mean I'm trying to figure how that could even be done.

240-185
1st December 2008, 05:42 AM
C'est dans le plan de mayer qui date de 1773 ça. Et que le plan soit faux ou non il reste vrai la preuve aujourd'hui.

Translated in english:

It's in the Mayer plan which is from 1773. Whatever this plan doesn't exist or not, it does exist, we have the evidence today

JoeyDonuts
1st December 2008, 05:46 AM
This one comes from our dear friend Old Bob the local Stonecutters whistleblower:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4239863#post4239863

Oliver, too much to explain, can you study up on Masons, lots on the net. All the numbers have a name eg "The Great Architect" is at the 32 level (Obama is a 32 % Mason) while 30% is called "The Kadosch" Every Mason temple has mock pillars from Solomon's Temple, how Jewish is that. The logo you chose reeks of Mason symbol. As for the Sun God Worship bit have a look at the Aus. Army logo and the Catholic Church and what about the Jap. rising sun. As for 11 the twin towers come to mind at 11 0 story's high, then we have remembrance day held on the 11of 11 month at 11 o'clock. All the obelisks are multi 11 usually in feet. Then we can start on ley lines.

Great Googly Moogly...

Mr.Herbert
1st December 2008, 03:23 PM
Truthers Appeal To Mythbusters:

I know a simple test that could be done that would answer ALOT of questions, take 4 or 5 pieces of steel the the same thickness that was used for the interior columns then using several compressed air cannons (aimed at each of the steel columns) fire solid aluminum rods at 500mph and see if they do any damage to the steel.

Then after this experiment take one of the columns and load a real world amount of weight (what it would have supported in the tower) and subject it to 1000degree heat. see what happens.

These two experiments would cost very little and would prove much.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread329848/pg1#pid3944018

240-185
2nd December 2008, 01:05 AM
Hmmm, I think there's the centrifugal force, and... and... That's all. Gravity force? What's that?

La lune remonte immediatement sur son orbite habituelle. C'es t mon petit doigt qui me le dit et mon intuition. C'est plus sûr que les formules appliquées a tort et a travers.

Translated in english:

The moon immediately goes up on its habitual orbit. I think so, and this is my intuition. It is more secure than applying rightly or wrongly these formulas.

UNLoVedRebel
2nd December 2008, 01:32 AM
(1) The nutty "no planes" / "bombs in buildings" speculation has as much to do with 9/11 Truth as Adolf Hitler has to do with vegetarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler)!

Who woulda thought?

Dr Adequate
2nd December 2008, 01:57 AM
Alex Libman on 9/11, Bold text in the original.

Um, how many times do I need to say: there is no evidence! He forgot to click his heels together.

Dave Rogers
2nd December 2008, 09:48 AM
I know it's a rather simplified variation on one of the November nominations, but here's 9/11-investigator's attempt to riff on the theme that all objects are indistinguishable.

If you can bring a box cutter on board you can bring a bottle of poisonous gas on board.

Because anybody doing anything implies that anybody else can do something different, no doubt.

Dave

Travis
2nd December 2008, 08:11 PM
Who woulda thought?

Funnily enough he's kinda right but for the wrong reasons.

Alex Libman on 9/11, Bold text in the original.

He forgot to click his heels together.

I thought he swore off this forum? Oh well, his reappearance should prove entertaining.

I know it's a rather simplified variation on one of the November nominations, but here's 9/11-investigator's attempt to riff on the theme that all objects are indistinguishable.



Because anybody doing anything implies that anybody else can do something different, no doubt.

Dave

Sounds like the premise of a philosophy essay.

dudalb
2nd December 2008, 08:34 PM
I thought he swore off this forum? Oh well, his reappearance should prove entertaining.
For as long as he is here, which won't be long the way he is going.

Biscuit
2nd December 2008, 09:51 PM
This one is the posters summery of a very long and rambling post that starts with Arnold Schwarzenegger being the next president because Obama isn't a U.S. citizen and thus the laws passed to keep Obama president will allow Arnold, who is also the antichrist, become the first liberal socialist/facist Armageddon president to preside over the NAU. I love it when religious delusions and NWO/NAU conspiracies collide! I also love run on sentences!

Arnold Schwarzenegger: The Powerful Eagle (America) Who Harrows Black Fields... scorches the Earth, Created in WW2 by his Nazi Father with Funds from the Bush Family Fortune, Prescott Bush and other Elite in Collusion with European bankers. Will preside over the new NAU thanks to the Obama scandal and start the 3rd world war in Alliance with Europe Nato and devastate the world for 4 years as predicted in the Bible before the return of the True Messiah

Take a look at the helpful pictorial guide the OP provides.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread406439/pg1

Toke
2nd December 2008, 10:02 PM
Yes those pictures are real damming:D

240-185
3rd December 2008, 01:18 AM
We all live in a Big Brother world. ph34r!

Everyone is a good little sheep by default. Rebellion is a deliberate act of conscience that is highly discouraged and is contrary to all your tribal instincts. You just want to run with the tribe. But your mind tells you that you can't.

Travis
3rd December 2008, 02:10 AM
This one is the posters summery of a very long and rambling post that starts with Arnold Schwarzenegger being the next president because Obama isn't a U.S. citizen and thus the laws passed to keep Obama president will allow Arnold, who is also the antichrist, become the first liberal socialist/facist Armageddon president to preside over the NAU. I love it when religious delusions and NWO/NAU conspiracies collide! I also love run on sentences!



Take a look at the helpful pictorial guide the OP provides.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread406439/pg1

The idea that Arnold as Conan and Obama in front of Superman are foreshadowing demonstrates the tenuous grip on reality that article has. That's in addition to them getting the whole Prescott Bush and the Nazis thing wrong......again.

PhantomWolf
3rd December 2008, 02:26 AM
While the entire post is rather abusive, Prohoridzo proves the belief that ignorance and a potty mouth go hand in hand with the fillowing classic:

THE MOON NEVER SPINS OR ROTATES ON IT'S AXIS.

Or, I suppose you say the earth rotates 366 time around the sun each year, if you add the whole orbit of earth aroung the sun.

The moon's monthly orbit around earth, even though it can be considered a rotation, obviously, it does not rotate or spin on it's access creating morning, noon, and night.

Of course it is a comment on YouTube so what can one expect....

He follows up with:

your video is a reference to moon phases.
The shadows of the earth upon the moon does not constitute morning and evening.

:eusa_doh:

Travis
3rd December 2008, 03:09 AM
While the entire post is rather abusive, Prohoridzo proves the belief that ignorance and a potty mouth go hand in hand with the fillowing classic:



Of course it is a comment on YouTube so what can one expect....

He follows up with:



:eusa_doh:

Sounds like someone who takes the whole "dark side of the moon" thing literally.

Horatius
3rd December 2008, 06:51 AM
Sounds like someone who takes the whole "dark side of the moon" thing literally.



It sounds to me like Phil Plait needs to start his own version of teh Stundies*.






*And can someone explain why the only time I don't mistype "The" is when I meant to?

fullflavormenthol
3rd December 2008, 10:36 AM
I found this gem on prisonplanet.com's comment board. It is about a photo from Mars.

December 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 am

What’s that light in the background? Sort of looks like an oil rig lit up in operation,
This picture was taken in Arizona,or New Mexico,
Mars,what a bunch of ************,These morons have never landed anything on mars,or the moon for that fact,we CANNOT survive the radiation belts in space,everything on this planet is unsustainable in outer space,it would be vaporized the instant it leaves our stratosphere.
We have never been outside of our own oxygen bubble with or without the device being manned or monkeyed in the case of the ruskies,Common sense will tell you that.

Link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/picture-sparks-claims-of-wood-on-mars.html)

Horatius
3rd December 2008, 07:33 PM
(1) The nutty "no planes" / "bombs in buildings" speculation has as much to do with 9/11 Truth as Adolf Hitler has to do with vegetarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler)!

Who woulda thought?


I think we're going to have to have a Compilation Stundie, as Alex Libman attempts to distance himself from everything that any other Truther has ever said:


What does WTC 7 have to do with 9/11 Truth?

Dave Rogers
4th December 2008, 02:24 AM
I honestly didn't think Heiwa could get any madder. Looks like I misunderestimated him. Apparently, there is no such thing as NIST.

I have (incl. Sunder) + Comments, etc. They never reply! Confirms my suspicion that they do not exist. No real people can write such a rubbish report!

Impressive new heights of achievement from a Stundie life master.

Dave

Damien Evans
4th December 2008, 05:49 AM
Old Bob at his finest:

Yes, and you can see the changers in old English Dictionary's. You know it's true and wrong as it twists the legal implications in the Jew controlled courts. Dig a little deeper and you will find that the English language is copyright so you can only speak with permission in court. This is a hard subject to debate as all the Shabbos goyim (Wantabee Jews) and Jews will put a spin on this touchy talk and scream the usual "ANTI SEMITE jail the holocaust denigner"

Travis
4th December 2008, 06:54 AM
I found this gem on prisonplanet.com's comment board. It is about a photo from Mars.



Link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/picture-sparks-claims-of-wood-on-mars.html)

Someone should tell him the probes on Mars were robots and watch his head explode.

JamesB
4th December 2008, 12:51 PM
The "original woo" responds to my statement that crashing a plane into the largest building on the planet does not make you and ace pilot.

he flew across country, back and forth, with no problems locating his target (without a flight plan), entered one of the most secure airspaces on the planet Earth, and spiraled around in a descending turn, breaking every rule in the FCC book, and apparently WITHOUT worrying about any interruptions.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=690712129496217451

Now apparently Hani Hanjour has joined Janet Jackson and Howard Stern in raising the rath of the Federal Communications Commission.

HawksFan
4th December 2008, 03:12 PM
The "original woo" responds to my statement that crashing a plane into the largest building on the planet does not make you and ace pilot.



http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=690712129496217451

Now apparently Hani Hanjour has joined Janet Jackson and Howard Stern in raising the rath of the Federal Communications Commission.


Er.. well, he did broadcast over a regulated frequency without properly identifying himself. I suppose that could get him in trouble with the FCC. :)

JamesB
4th December 2008, 03:29 PM
I suppose I should have said "wrath", the "Wrath of Khan" being the best Star Trek movie of course. :o

defaultdotxbe
4th December 2008, 04:22 PM
Someone should tell him the probes on Mars were robots and watch his head explode.
its crazier than that, he appears to be claiming that ANY terrestrial material will vaporize if exposed to the radiation in space

Grizzly Bear
4th December 2008, 08:16 PM
While the entire post is rather abusive, Prohoridzo proves the belief that ignorance and a potty mouth go hand in hand with the fillowing classic:

THE MOON NEVER SPINS OR ROTATES ON IT'S AXIS.

Or, I suppose you say the earth rotates 366 time around the sun each year, if you add the whole orbit of earth aroung the sun.

The moon's monthly orbit around earth, even though it can be considered a rotation, obviously, it does not rotate or spin on it's access creating morning, noon, and night.




That stundie you found... it left me totally speechless...
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5339/ahhhhjt7.jpg

patchbunny
4th December 2008, 09:17 PM
Do they put any identifying tags in any explosive? I mean I'm trying to figure how that could even be done.

Yes. Taggants (http://www.ime.org/dynamic.php?page_id=66). They're small (microns in size) colored particles that are mixed with the explosives during manufacturing. They survive detonation and can be used to identify the source of the explosive, although they appear to be of dubious value.

Travis
5th December 2008, 12:38 AM
its crazier than that, he appears to be claiming that ANY terrestrial material will vaporize if exposed to the radiation in space

*Head explodes*

Yes. Taggants (http://www.ime.org/dynamic.php?page_id=66). They're small (microns in size) colored particles that are mixed with the explosives during manufacturing. They survive detonation and can be used to identify the source of the explosive, although they appear to be of dubious value.

How big is each tagged batch?

Dr Adequate
5th December 2008, 12:49 AM
Old Bob at his finest: It needs a link as per rule 5. Also then I could see what he's on abou ... oh, wait.

Well, maybe not that.

Damien Evans
5th December 2008, 03:43 AM
It needs a link as per rule 5. Also then I could see what he's on abou ... oh, wait.

Well, maybe not that.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4247822#post4247822

I believe that is the correct link. If not, I nominate that post as well.

Damien Evans
5th December 2008, 04:13 AM
It needs a link as per rule 5. Also then I could see what he's on abou ... oh, wait.

Well, maybe not that.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4247822#post4247822

I believe that is the correct link. If not, I nominate that post as well.

Travis
5th December 2008, 05:08 AM
You can probably just link to anything Old Bob has posted and it would be appropriate for this threads needs.

patchbunny
5th December 2008, 08:14 AM
How big is each tagged batch?

You mean how much is added per, say, lb of explosive? No idea. I know little beyond the link I sent, which is close to what I've always known before.

dtugg
5th December 2008, 03:51 PM
As proven using a pair of pants, 9/11 was done by the joooooooooos.


Provided that say 5 floors had collapsed and were resting on a underlying 6th floor, which after an hour or so finally collapsed; next six floors crash onto a 7th causing a domino effect. So far so good. But to use a comparison: if somebody drops his pants that does not mean that his legs crash against the floor as well.

dudalb
5th December 2008, 05:47 PM
its crazier than that, he appears to be claiming that ANY terrestrial material will vaporize if exposed to the radiation in space


That is silly. Reed Richards proved that if humans are exposed to radiation in outer space, they gain super powers.

dudalb
5th December 2008, 05:49 PM
You can probably just link to anything Old Bob has posted and it would be appropriate for this threads needs.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Dr Adequate
5th December 2008, 08:49 PM
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4247822#post4247822

I believe that is the correct link. If not, I nominate that post as well. Yeah, so do I:

Ok you asked, Israel is a word made up with the names of three pagan gods. Is Ra El In 1946 Israel was formed by League of Nations the fore runner of the UN to find a home for the Jews (Picked a good spot like the fox in the hen house)And while I'm at the insane bit Fox is a common Jewish name F--the 6th letter. letter O is the 15 th 1+5 =6 X= 24th letter 2+4=6 Which makes Fox = 666 Think I would change my name if it was Fox.

TjW
5th December 2008, 09:14 PM
Er.. well, he did broadcast over a regulated frequency without properly identifying himself. I suppose that could get him in trouble with the FCC. :)

Yeah, but he did it using the appropriate modulation for the band plan, so he didn't break every rule in the FCC book.

Dr Adequate
6th December 2008, 01:30 AM
Alex Libman:

I am suspecting that socialist governments are discouraging / suppressing some medical arguments against regular masturbation, as they are with risk associated with anal sex [...] Masturbation leads to lower birth rates and a calmer population.

Travis
6th December 2008, 09:38 AM
^Um since when does regular masturbation include anal sex? I ask here because I'm afraid to even go look at the source of such ideas.

1337m4n
6th December 2008, 06:57 PM
^^ Somewhere, a biologist is crying.

Corsair 115
6th December 2008, 07:46 PM
This one is the posters summery of a very long and rambling post that starts with Arnold Schwarzenegger being the next president because Obama isn't a U.S. citizen and thus the laws passed to keep Obama president will allow Arnold, who is also the antichrist, become the first liberal socialist/facist Armageddon president to preside over the NAU.My response to NAU conspiracy proponents is always the same: anyone who thinks the "North American Union" thing is real is someone who clearly, clearly, does not understand or know anything about Canadian politics.

JohnG
6th December 2008, 08:21 PM
Ok you asked, Israel is a word made up with the names of three pagan gods. Is Ra El In 1946 Israel was formed by League of Nations the fore runner of the UN to find a home for the Jews (Picked a good spot like the fox in the hen house)And while I'm at the insane bit Fox is a common Jewish name F--the 6th letter. letter O is the 15 th 1+5 =6 X= 24th letter 2+4=6 Which makes Fox = 666 Think I would change my name if it was Fox.

Well, that explains Fox News.

Biscuit
6th December 2008, 09:28 PM
If an astronaut were to jump vertically in one-sixth gravity with the same effort expended on Earth, the initial velocity would be greater than on Earth. Therefore, the astronaut would reach more than six times higher. Here we see astronauts jump just about one foot, whereas they should have attained a height of at least six feet! There’s not even one pic that shows this!


Now I know what you are thinking, "oh great another 'we didn't go to the moon' conspiracy theory." You are wrong! This guy believes we went to the moon, although not the apollo mission, and that the government and all known scientific evidence is hiding the true force of gravity on the moon! He claims that the moon actually has 2/3's the gravity of earth. He doesn't say what the reason for all scientist in the world to lie about this is but I am certain its the joos.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread389780/pg1

240-185
7th December 2008, 02:04 AM
Holy sheet, there are too many people who contradicts me, I can't bear all these charges, what can I do? Add these people to my ignore list, so less people will contradict me, and I'll be right!

When I say ignore I mean ignore. There are too many of you to address anyway. I am not a Griffin who can dedicate all his time to this cause.

Travis
7th December 2008, 11:46 AM
Well, that explains Fox News.

Gotta love anti-semitism, numerology and Christian apocalyptic paranoia all in one post.

Now I know what you are thinking, "oh great another 'we didn't go to the moon' conspiracy theory." You are wrong! This guy believes we went to the moon, although not the apollo mission, and that the government and all known scientific evidence is hiding the true force of gravity on the moon! He claims that the moon actually has 2/3's the gravity of earth. He doesn't say what the reason for all scientist in the world to lie about this is but I am certain its the joos.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread389780/pg1

Well that's definitely worth covering up. I bet they're also covering up the true atomic mass of Carbon.

Alareth
7th December 2008, 05:26 PM
Holy sheet, there are too many people who contradicts me, I can't bear all these charges, what can I do? Add these people to my ignore list, so less people will contradict me, and I'll be right!

A link maybe?

dtugg
7th December 2008, 05:42 PM
A link maybe?

When I say ignore I mean ignore. There are too many of you to address anyway. I am not a Griffin who can dedicate all his time to this cause.

I am on ignore because I've been shown this know nothing, jooo hating fraud to be wrong, many times. And because I've been a little uncivil to the same person who says people (evil joooooos of course) are guilty of mass murder with zero evidence..

Horatius
7th December 2008, 05:50 PM
Well that's definitely worth covering up. I bet they're also covering up the true atomic mass of Carbon.




Well, yeah! Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 14, do I need to draw you a map? Connect the Dots, dude!!!!!!!1111!11!!1

Damien Evans
7th December 2008, 05:55 PM
You can probably just link to anything Old Bob has posted and it would be appropriate for this threads needs.

Yep. He's a goldmine of stupidity.

Horatius
7th December 2008, 06:35 PM
Here's one from Turbofan:

What does drywall dust have to do with the destruction of the top section before the bottom section?




And, just for balance, one from R.Mackey:


Very easy answers. I will not repeat them again. Even the simplest member of the Truth Movement should be able to appreciate these answers.


I mean, come on, how can any of us expect even the "simplest" member of the Twoof Movement to accept a reasonable explanation, at this point in the discussion?


;)

PhantomWolf
7th December 2008, 10:03 PM
Well, yeah! Sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 14, do I need to draw you a map? Connect the Dots, dude!!!!!!!1111!11!!1

Worst of all, on occasion it's even 13!

dtugg
8th December 2008, 03:28 PM
Because if it is in the wiki for a video game set 500 years in the future, it must really exist.

There is even thermite cord: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Thermite-Carbon_Cord

With cord you can make any shape you want: linear shapes, circle shapes, even star of david shapes!

JoeyDonuts
8th December 2008, 09:56 PM
Because if it is in the wiki for a video game set 500 years in the future, it must really exist.

Yep. That's why I am done with both that thread and 9-11investigator.

defaultdotxbe
8th December 2008, 11:18 PM
to 9-11 investigator's credit (or discredit, depending how you look at it) he didnt realize the site was about a video game and not real life

Dave Rogers
9th December 2008, 01:18 AM
I've always had faith that sooner or later, the redoubtable Turbofan would come up with a true killer Stundie. But I never quite expected anything like this.

Oops, the top section was not found intact at the base of the tower.
Bigger problem.

After hitting the ground at a couple of hundred miles an hour, the top section of the building should have remained intact. Right.

Dave

dtugg
9th December 2008, 01:30 AM
That is great, Dave! I thought I had nominated a couple good ones this month, but that one may take the cake. That's OK, I nominated the one which will probably win for November.

dudalb
9th December 2008, 01:29 PM
This deserves consideration because of the speed of response..posted only a few hours after the Governor of Illinois got busted,and the excellence as an example of failing to provide any evidence for a link between cause and effect:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread418146/pg1

Damn those sneaky bankers.....

240-185
11th December 2008, 04:40 AM
Bet on what will happen by tossing a coin? What a strange idea!

this is a big sign that a particular CTers is beyond hope, its the "heads i win, tails you lose" argument
Coins have more than two sides.

Smackety
11th December 2008, 04:42 AM
Bet on what will happen by tossing a coin? What a strange idea!

Coins have 3 sides....

240-185
11th December 2008, 04:45 AM
But I don't think a coin landed right on its edge while playing this game :p

Smackety
11th December 2008, 04:46 AM
But I don't think a coin landed right on its edge while playing this game :p

CT'ers are ALL about the longshot.

Trojan_Jockey
11th December 2008, 06:39 AM
Smeggy is back. In a desperate attempt to appear anti-totalitarian he starts praising a totalitarian state. Isn't it great when you can have 20 Islamic fundamentalists as candidates!

"In some ways Iran has it better as the people have more candidates to choose from"

http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8450

Dr Adequate
12th December 2008, 02:08 AM
Now if I wrote this, it would be withering sarcasm. But Homeland Insurgency actually means it.

So the so-called perps are Saudis, I think Syrian, and now Kuwaiti, and we attacked Iraq?

Hmmm the whole thing seems kind of convenient.

Homeland Insurgency
12th December 2008, 03:18 AM
Now if I wrote this, it would be withering sarcasm. But Homeland Insurgency actually means it.

If you wrote it?

You did write it.

Dr Adequate
12th December 2008, 04:03 AM
If you wrote it?

You did write it. That's a strange lie even for a Truther.

240-185
12th December 2008, 04:40 AM
Seth McFarlane was in on it!!!!!111!!!111!!!eleven (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4265033#post4265033)


You know what I think? I think our buddy Seth had an Odigo account. That must be it!
WIN OF THE YEAR

Mel Odious
12th December 2008, 09:30 PM
I don't think it'll be in the finals, but take a gander at this ...

OMG my computer just got the blue screen of death!!!


I think it was someone from that JREF site!!!


It might have been some sort of warning or maybe Im paranoid but I have NEVER had that screen before.


It looked like some crazy ****


I was talking about how I had something on quotes on money changers on my hard drive and all I go to the bathroom and come back and my computer has the blue screen of death.


Man I don't know about messing with these people no more

They mean business


- From page 2 of the JREF Opened It's Sinister Doors In August 2001 (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=196&st=15) thread at the 9/11 Truth Movement Forums.

(This comment was posted Dec 3 2007, 11:41 AM. The threads don't have post numbers - Mel)

Klimax
13th December 2008, 03:46 AM
I don't think it'll be in the finals, but take a gander at this ...




- From page 2 of the JREF Opened It's Sinister Doors In August 2001 (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=196&st=15) thread at the 9/11 Truth Movement Forums.

(This comment was posted Dec 3 2007, 11:41 AM. The threads don't have post numbers - Mel)

Finally my hacking skillz prevailed...

fromdownunder
13th December 2008, 04:59 PM
I note that Old Bob already has a couple of nominations, but I cannot resist adding this one. It takes wrong to a whole new level. (There really should be a lifetime achivement award for somebody like Bob who has never, ever got anything right):

Local Plumber who we used and drank with was a member, he built the whale shaped aquarium at Kemp beach. He had been briefed on scenario's of disaster and were told that suicide pills would be handed out for members to use in hopeless cases eg. nuke attacks ?? ("Rocky Horror Show"comes to mind) Yeppoon was at a interesting stage with the town polarized with for and against Iwasaki just before the bomb attack(know who done that) Jan.76 cyclone David hit Yeppoon most damage was at the harbour and the SES was quite busy, so was I fixing buildings, we had a house half built but it stood the storm. SES had a base in Yeppoon but as I thought they were a bunch of wankers I took no notice of them. Think they had a shed around Cooee Bay. As for the leg pulling bit he was a beliver that it was possible for these things to happen. Nuke costs $500m Rockhampton worth ? not much.

Norm

Klimax
14th December 2008, 02:26 AM
I note that Old Bob already has a couple of nominations, but I cannot resist adding this one. It takes wrong to a whole new level. (There really should be a lifetime achivement award for somebody like Bob who has never, ever got anything right):



Norm

You have forgotten link... here it is:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4267305&postcount=69

Mongrel
14th December 2008, 03:39 PM
I note that Old Bob already has a couple of nominations, but I cannot resist adding this one. It takes wrong to a whole new level. (There really should be a lifetime achivement award for somebody like Bob who has never, ever got anything right):



Norm

I think the "bionic carrots" beats it though, unless it's some weird Aussie slang
Zep Ok at this stage the bionic carrots drink beer and drag tarps on roofs and I know most of these people try to help. But what you and them don't know weather they like it or not in crises they are automatically deputized and under marshal law and will have take orders from above. And be arrested and treated the same as a disobeying soldier for non compliance, possibly shot. These laws or ex. orders are in place and this is what I was referring too. Didn't think I would have to spell it out. The same applies to all semi gov sections eg. Fire and any body funded by Gov. They will have little choice but to do the bidding of some higher law enforcement body.So don't scream stupid until you know the facts. Little traitor John H. set much of this up behind closed doors. The very letters (SES) should scare you if you know the code and the way you talk you don't.

TjW
14th December 2008, 06:26 PM
I think the "bionic carrots" beats it though, unless it's some weird Aussie slang

Apparently, the people in the volunteer organization he's going on about wear an orange uniform. So, yes, I think it's a snide reference to them.
OTOH, there was a question asked of him in a previous post as to whether he could be any more incomprehensible.
You have to admit it was one heck of a try.

ETA: It's not often you see "bionic carrots" and tarpaulins in the same post.

Smackety
14th December 2008, 07:34 PM
I think the "bionic carrots" beats it though, unless it's some weird Aussie slang

It looks like drunk posting to me.

Mongrel
15th December 2008, 04:10 AM
Apparently, the people in the volunteer organization he's going on about wear an orange uniform. So, yes, I think it's a snide reference to them.

Ah, that kinda makes sense if I beat myself around the head a few times. Thanks :)

dudalb
15th December 2008, 04:54 PM
When it comes to 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Craig Ranke don't need no stinking mathematics:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=15747&st=60


To require mathematical accuracy is nothing but an excuse to dismiss the evidence.

:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi

TellyKNeasuss
15th December 2008, 06:05 PM
From a "syndicated columnist" named Diana West, as printed in the Galesburg, IL, USA Register-Mail:

http://www.galesburg.com/opinions/x1009169911/Where-were-you-born-Obama

WE, the People have online access to an Obama document know as a Certification of Live Birth...Further dimming the online document's Holy Grail aspects, it has been altered -- the certificate's number has been redacted -- which, according to a statement printed on the document, actually invalidates it.OK, for it to be funny you would have to know that the certificate number was REDACTED ON THE SCANNED IMAGE, NOT ON THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

Dave Rogers
16th December 2008, 02:23 AM
Old Bob is on a roll here. I don't even know how to begin to comment on this post.

Alright I'll play along just to give you more ammo. SES means Serpent- Vision-soul- Serpent. FEMA means To fail or form -vision-soul - mystery origins and the A is alpha or first and moral to follow orders Now that is the letters but combo of letters some times can morph into new meanings of which I'm not privy too all. One eg. would be EL- Vision in law. and IC - resembles some thing. While RA- God- enlightenment and CE means conscious vision. You have to be a Yiddish Judge to know it all. This must be another pot smoking dream, as I'm sure you knockers won't believe me.

Does anybody have the faintest idea what language he's speaking?

Dave

rwguinn
16th December 2008, 06:50 AM
Old Bob is on a roll here. I don't even know how to begin to comment on this post.



Does anybody have the faintest idea what language he's speaking?

Dave

Do we neeeed to break out the corn dogs again?

Disbelief
16th December 2008, 06:57 AM
Ultima showing his usual understanding, this time concerning the terrorists belongings:

You make a very careful thought out plan for months on how not to be detected and then just leave all kinds of evidence behind?



http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4270514#post4270514

Horatius
16th December 2008, 11:49 AM
Jews do not like Germans very much. We don't? BTW, what does this have to do with the topic of how 9/11 was done?
If you do then you are the first Jew ever who said that he liked Germans (not that I believe you).



Yes, let's just ignore all those Jews who used to live in Germany. None of them ever liked a German, not once!

TellyKNeasuss
16th December 2008, 01:12 PM
From a birfer who uses the handle "fertiledirt" on The Denver Post website:

I'm sure that you have all enjoyed poking fun at me, treating me as if I were singularly looney.http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?f=176&t=11201168&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=220

(very lengthy post about halfway down the page)

TellyKNeasuss
16th December 2008, 01:33 PM
A couple more from fertiledirt (is there a rule against making 2 nominations from the same post?):

...it has been the blogging sphere that has proven their idiocies, been true to form and continues to be the only real voice unmotivated by oil money, political power and the ability to completely pull the wool over the eyes of dense saps that believe everything they are told.

and

The Universities of America have become breeding grounds for intolerance of anything but the onslaught of socialistic thinking, another blessing of the choices that have been made, and anytime any of you place the values of failed governmental logic over common sense ability to rightly divide the facts on the ground, it's all over. Dr. Frankenstein's got nothing on you guys, you have no concept of the monster you continue to create. Rushing blindly headlong into your own destruction.

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?p=603432#p603432

Dr Adequate
16th December 2008, 01:48 PM
From the main article:

Colorado's nine electors will officially cast their votes at the statehouse on Monday selecting Democrat Barack Obama for president — despite receiving dozens of letters asking them not to.

Dozens, eh? These people could grow to rival the Truth Movement.

240-185
17th December 2008, 04:19 AM
From 9/11-I-don't-know-why-I-am-blamed-they-say-I-don't-provide-evidence-for-my-claims-Investigator:


You're missing the point... nobody expects the passengers to converse with their relatives with an exalted voice; of course they would whisper. But what struck the relatives was the incredible calmness of the passenger on the phone, who were confronted with their own immanent death.

The real reason why the callers were calm was that they were having a good time somewhere on the ground leaning backwards with their feet on the table.

"The victims were in on it". How disgusting.

Cl1mh4224rd
17th December 2008, 04:52 PM
From 9/11-I-don't-know-why-I-am-blamed-they-say-I-don't-provide-evidence-for-my-claims-Investigator:




"The victims were in on it". How disgusting.


Needs a link. :p

Travis
17th December 2008, 11:39 PM
Whew. This is going to be a good month. Already have some true gems.

Smackety
18th December 2008, 12:01 AM
From the main article:

Colorado's nine electors will officially cast their votes at the statehouse on Monday selecting Democrat Barack Obama for president — despite receiving dozens of letters asking them not to.

Dozens, eh? These people could grow to rival the Truth Movement.

Dozens all mailed from the same zipcode?

240-185
18th December 2008, 04:32 AM
Needs a link. :p

Here it is ;) (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4277178#post4277178)

Bell
18th December 2008, 02:11 PM
From the Little Engineer that could:

Weight (kg) or load (kg) = mass (kg). Yes, I am an engineer. What are you?

grmcdorman
18th December 2008, 02:31 PM
Even more hilarious is this:
Yes, let's do that!

Otto von Gericke and Evangelista Torricelli would not be proud of you. I agree - under pressure due vacuum (absence of air) cannot be more than about 1 000 hPa and to maintain it for 2.25 seconds is a big job. But say we can apply 1 000 hPa on a structure!

Say my structure is 100 meters long and 50 meters wide = 5000 m² and I manage to apply 1000 hPa pressure on a floor. (Under or over pressure does not matter - right?) What is the force F in Newton applied to the floor? Right it is 5 000 (m²) * 100 000 (Pa) = 500 000 000 N!

Quite a big force - say 50 000 tons in more understandable units - but let's keep it in N(ewton).

And this force F is now pushing/sucking down the structure. Say the structure mass m is 100 000 tons or 100 000 000 kgs. What is the acceleration a produced by 500 000 000 N acting on 100 000 000 kgs? Right - it is 5 m/s² or 0.5 g.

You thought it was 0.003 g, so we differ only 166.7 times. Nice try, liar!

Actually, vacuum is pretty strong. I have had the misfortune to see tank structures that had collapsed due to vacuum! The poor operators pumped the tanks empty and forgot to allow air into it and BLOUFF - they collapsed.
Next question - how to create vacuum at bottom of WTC7? You have removed all personnel and NYFD (not witnesses) evidently. What do you do next? Right - your remove the air! And BLOUFF - the WTC7 is pulled!

Quite basic, really.

(Bit long, but all of it is needed to see his basic premise).

Yes, he's saying that WTC7 was demolished by a hard vacuum in the lower stories. Really. Creating a hard vacuum inside an ordinary building is quite basic, you see. :jaw-dropp

Cl1mh4224rd
18th December 2008, 06:46 PM
Yes, he's saying that WTC7 was demolished by a hard vacuum in the lower stories. Really. Creating a hard vacuum inside an ordinary building is quite basic, you see. :jaw-dropp


Hah. We had a truther a while back claim that the reason imploded buildings collapse as fast as they do is because the explosions create a vacuum that sucks the building downward. He claimed this, plus WTC7's "rapid" collapse, to be proof that the buildings was blown up.

I think it might have been malcomkirkman, but I'm not sure...

Smackety
19th December 2008, 03:04 AM
now we know why WTC7 was hermetically sealed by the 20 story hole in the side!

Dave Rogers
19th December 2008, 03:18 AM
At the very least I deserve a dishonourable mention here for underestimating air pressure by a factor of 144.

Dave

grmcdorman
19th December 2008, 01:16 PM
Ah, what's two orders of magnitude among friends?:D

tomwaits
19th December 2008, 01:56 PM
I think Heiwa is likely an engineer of the custodial variety.

Mr.Herbert
19th December 2008, 03:58 PM
Another one of SPrestons threads @ ATS as usual, attracts some wonderful Studies. This was a response to a thread called:

"Faking The Pentagon Parking Lot Videos And The Fake White Smoke Trail"

The answer is simple.

The real tape, which is dated September 11th, 2001, was an embarassment to the administration, a body on the gurney, waiting for your fatal injection kind of embarassment. The perps had to fake a video somehow, but by the time they got around to it they forgot that 9/11 happened on 9/11. They thought it happened on 9/12, so they dated the fake video wrong and just made an ****** mess of everything else about it too.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=420711&page=1#pid5497646

gtc
20th December 2008, 06:40 PM
Silly statements by truthers are common but I think these are quite funny.

But with 911 there is no evidence that it was an inside job, and there's also no evidence that it wasn't. So bleating "It definitely wasn't an inside job" is just as deluded as bleating "It definitely was an inside job!"

No one is saying that there's evidence of 911 being an inside job.

But then there's no evidence of it not being an inside job either. All there is, is a confession coerced under torture and who is about to be tried in a kangeroo Military court.

Whether or whether it wasn't an inside job is down to BELIEF....
.

Both dewunkers AND twoofers are working on subjectivity. Those who believe 911 had no involvement by 'Western' groups are no different to those who firmly believe that 'Western' did have some invovlement

Tin Foil Timothy
20th December 2008, 09:50 PM
I fully stand by them, but by all means enter them into the competition. by doing so it just reinforces my points about both you and the similarities between dewunkers and twoofers

Drudgewire
20th December 2008, 09:54 PM
I fully stand by them, but by all means enter them into the competition. by doing so it just reinforces my points about both you and the similarities between dewunkers and twoofers


Keep reaching for that rainbow. :rolleyes:

gtc
20th December 2008, 09:56 PM
I fully stand by them, but by all means enter them into the competition. by doing so it just reinforces my points about both you and the similarities between dewunkers and twoofers

You are not allowed to nominate yourself.

However, maybe the rules should be changed as it would save time.

Cl1mh4224rd
20th December 2008, 11:57 PM
You are not allowed to nominate yourself.

However, maybe the rules should be changed as it would save time.


Bad idea. A lack of self-awareness on the part of the nominee is a big part of what makes the Stundies so damn funny. :)

TriskettheKid
21st December 2008, 10:10 AM
Found one on GFAQs.

This comes from WebEffect:

Just like that reputable Chief of Emergency Services of New York City (can't remember his exact title) who was inside Building 7 on 9/11 and said he saw and heard premature bombs going off in several columns in the bilding when descending the staircases, a few hours before anything happened that morning.

Never had a heart condition in his life, 50 years old. He dies of a heart attack 3 days before the NIST report whitewashing the collapse of Building 7 comes out earlier this fall. (It of course denies everything the guy said he saw and blames an unprecedantant "architectural miracle" on the collapse.)

How convenient that he's dead just in time to not sue and be a reputable witness, isn't it?

Gotta admire the sense of justice in those posts.

7 years since 9/11....and they want to SUE.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=47225179

Bell
22nd December 2008, 05:10 AM
Linked to in this post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4287717#post4287717).

Original post here (http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7ktfw/15_911_questions/).

Its obvious by the first paragraph that the person who wrote this article is out to discredit the 9/11 truth movement, rather than to debate key points of the 9/11 truthers argument. He uses big words and vague refrences to try and sound credible. I wouldnt be suprised if he/she is on the governments payroll. And the website "counterknowledge.com" is higly suspect. Has anyone heard of it before? Why would we need a website to debunk "conspiracy theories" when our governments are so conspiratorial? Remember what president bush said about not tolerating "outrageous conspiracy theories"? Yeah, I usually just take whatever that guy says and do the opposite. To the author of this article: Good luck debunking 9/11 truthers. You are not the first to try.

Blender Head
22nd December 2008, 10:15 AM
From RKO's YouTube channel comment section (http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4)*:

This shill's videos are so weak and have been debunked multiple times over.

Don't watch this video account, it's fascist propaganda.

How's that for "open-mindedness"?

*Screengrab upon request.

Redtail
22nd December 2008, 12:25 PM
Gulf War anyone?
Some of these videos wills were taken after 911, obviously. Proof? A few of them say they are attacking because we are invading Muslim lands. I dont remember our forces invading till after 911, do you?

TriskettheKid
22nd December 2008, 01:08 PM
Ready for some more CT math?

This one's from Mega man Forever over on GFAQs:


I basically proved that we lost our right to privacy. That includes a lot of our rights.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=47244050

TriskettheKid
22nd December 2008, 01:24 PM
Just found another one from Mega man Forever.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here:

In public your conversations have privacy but what I'm saying is that aside from that there is no way of knowing of whether your conversations are private or not. Like for instance, what way would you have of knowing if your email was on the NSA's supercomputer or not?

:confused:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=47244050

Klimax
22nd December 2008, 02:38 PM
Just found another one from Mega man Forever.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here:



:confused:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=47244050

I think it parses like this:In public you know what privacy you have(none),while conversation on-line (ICQ,email,etc...)can be intercepted,so you cannot be sure if somebody is not reading it.Unless you use encryption... :cool: (Yes even AES can be theoretically cracked,but AFAIK it was not done)

Maybe I filled in missing things from quote...

Bell
22nd December 2008, 04:45 PM
Just found another one from Mega man Forever.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here:



:confused:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=47244050

In public your conversations are private?

Muwhahaha!! [/evil NWO laugh]

Slayhamlet
23rd December 2008, 04:06 PM
I agree, with the caveat that scientific consensus is sometimes wrong, and some people treat it as just another form of faith in authority.

Galileo looking though his telescope at the moons of Jupiter is the 17th century equivalent of people today watching videos of WTC 7.

There's just nothing I can say to this.

Travis
23rd December 2008, 07:05 PM
I suppose if Galileo had looked at those moons and then concluded they were giant honeybees the analogy might work.



By the way, there is no rule against self nomination. It's not as funny but whatever floats someones boat.

1337m4n
23rd December 2008, 09:13 PM
No, I think I will take TFT off Ignore. He is just too bloody entertaining.

By the way, there is no rule against self nomination. It's not as funny but whatever floats someones boat.

Technically, he didn't nominate himself. All he did was pull the "you're-only-proving-my-point" card, which is generally a sure sign that it got to his feelings. Maybe it wouldn't be so nice to nominate him after all...

Mel Odious
23rd December 2008, 09:27 PM
This is the first time I've seen a "twin towers had working nuclear reactors" hypothesis before. I've quoted the entire section for context; the part I'm nominating is in boldface.

Posted: Dec 12 2008, 11:27 PM

One author, though, (I forget now, but can dig it up if anyone wishes) claims that there is strong evidence of a China Syndrome at ground zero.

Now, a China Syndrome is not at all a nuke-in-the-basement-blows-the-Towers-to-smithereens theory.

Instead, a China Syndrome theory would indicate that there was a nuclear reactor of some sort at GZ. And, that the deconstruction of the Towers *caused* a melt-down of that reactor, i.e. a China Syndrome, or Chernobyl.

We know that nuclear reactors can be made small enough to fit inside long thin tubes called nuclear submarines.

We, also know, that most land-based nuclear reactors are usually wrapped in concrete.

We see a long, thin, vertical, concrete-like thing in the Zafar photo and in the wind-tunnel simulation.

Why would a nuclear reactor be placed at G.Z.? Same reason as why they are put into nuclear subs - autonomy. Off-the-grid energy. Energy consumption that cannot be tracked and registered.

Maybe "asbestos" was not the WTC's main problem. Maybe it was time to retire the reactor?

(Wow, sometimes I even impress myself with my ability to follow out-of-the-box reasoning and not shutting it down too early. I don't buy this theory, yet, but if the China Syndrome evidence is not B.S., we might need to consider this idea).



So the next time you need to "retire" a nuclear reactor, now you know what to do. Just collapse a huge *********** building on top of it.

Source. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5758) - The 9/11 Truth Movement Forums.

Drudgewire
23rd December 2008, 09:31 PM
So the next time you need to "retire" a nuclear reactor, now you know what to do. Just collapse a huge *********** building on top of it.


With airplanes.

:boggled:

JoeyDonuts
23rd December 2008, 09:54 PM
So the next time you need to "retire" a nuclear reactor, now you know what to do. Just collapse a huge *********** building on top of it.

Reminds me of the Robot Chicken Star Wars where Han Solo winds up talking to Darth Vader over the intercom who then suggests that they "might as well put one in."

Sword_Of_Truth
24th December 2008, 07:27 PM
"Helikaon" at the World of Warcraft Off-Topic forums (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908762866&sid=1&pageNo=4) dropped this steaming pile today:

You could have crashed 100 Planes into the top of the World Trade Centers and they wouldn't have fallen down the way the did on 9/11.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/HelikaonNomination.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/Hlikaonzoomed.jpg

Yes, I'm aware his entire post is a fountain of stupid, but it's obviously that the 100 planes is what will get him the monthly stundie booby-prize.

Alareth
24th December 2008, 07:35 PM
"Helikaon" at the World of Warcraft Off-Topic forums (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908762866&sid=1&pageNo=4) dropped this steaming pile today:



http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/HelikaonNomination.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/Hlikaonzoomed.jpg

Yes, I'm aware his entire post is a fountain of stupid, but it's obviously that the 100 planes is what will get him the monthly stundie booby-prize.


I would posit that the entire WoW forum is a single collective giant Stundie.

JoeyDonuts
24th December 2008, 08:29 PM
I would posit that the entire WoW forum is a single collective giant Stundie.

With a +5 Amulet of Social Awkwardness.

Sword_Of_Truth
24th December 2008, 08:34 PM
With a +5 Amulet of Social Awkwardness.

And one of these (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/tinfoilhat.xml). :D

On a slightly (very slightly) more serious note; the WoW forums (along with quite a few others) certainly have the quantity of stupid. But to me the Stundies have always been about the quality of stupid.

It literally takes a special kind of moron to take this prize.

JoeyDonuts
25th December 2008, 08:48 PM
And one of these (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/tinfoilhat.xml). :D

I notice the user takes a big ol' -10 hit to Intelligence. That's a little generous if you ask me.

cyclonic
25th December 2008, 11:16 PM
We are honest AI programs.

deepwatertree:

"most of these "debunkers" arent human. they are in fact artificial intelligence programs, designed to comment & respond to comments on truth seekers videos to spread disinfo...one way to find out if one is an AI program is that most of the time their comments don't really have much to do with the content of the video, in addition, their replies to comments are also irrelevant to a degree, and they don't deny that they are indeed an AI program when confronted..."


http://youtube.com/watch?v=awy8cmcuBlk

danger,danger,it does not compute!

JoeyDonuts
26th December 2008, 12:17 AM
"most of these "debunkers" arent human. they are in fact artificial intelligence programs, designed to comment & respond to comments on truth seekers videos to spread disinfo...

Your *define.jsp="video subject" is incorrect. Read the *convtree.jsp="GravySites/JREF Forums/Looming Tower/Popular Mechanics" for the real story.

*END OF LINE*

Travis
26th December 2008, 01:46 AM
Actually if you did crash 100 planes into the WTC it would be very different from what we saw. It would have collapsed much earlier and killed way more people. In fact the buildings probably would have gone down with the majority of those 100 planes still in the air thus forcing the remaining planes to nose dive into the rubble pile as their act in the attack.

Of course what would I know? I'm just an AI program.

Horatius
26th December 2008, 07:38 AM
In fact the buildings probably would have gone down with the majority of those 100 planes still in the air thus forcing the remaining planes to nose dive into the rubble pile as their act in the attack.





...unless they hit simultaneously.



What? If we're going with "insanely complicated", why not go all the way?

Klimax
26th December 2008, 08:24 AM
...unless they hit simultaneously.



What? If we're going with "insanely complicated", why not go all the way?

Did towers even had large surface for those planes,so they would not affect other planes lower or above them?

That would be even worse than usual...

Horatius
26th December 2008, 11:43 AM
Did towers even had large surface for those planes,so they would not affect other planes lower or above them?

That would be even worse than usual...



Well, 110 stories, 4 sides.....Keep 4 vertical floors between each plane, and we'd have room to spare!


Admittedly, the pilots who have to hit floors 10-50 or so would have a bit of tricky flying, but that's what the Mossad is for!

Mr.Herbert
26th December 2008, 01:06 PM
Of Mice and Men

Small math, big truth
Twin Tower's weight: 500,000 ton = 500,000,000 kg
Boeing's weight: 200 ton = 200,000 kg
Man's weight: 70 kg
Boeing's velocity: 1000 km/h

500,000,000 : 200,000 = 70 : x

x = 0.028 kg = 28 g

500,000,000 : 1000 = 70 : y

y = 0.00014 km/h

Those Boeings that hit Twin Towers at the velocity of 1000 km/h are like two little mice that hit a man at the velocity of 0.00014 km/h

9/11 was an inside job absolutely. Also goats can understand this simple truth.

Calatrava http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1

Alareth
26th December 2008, 01:12 PM
Of Mice and Men

[B]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1


MdC keeps the goats towing the NWO line.

Toke
26th December 2008, 01:42 PM
Guess he did the second (y) part of the math after realising that a 28g projectile at 1000km/h will be quite noticable on a human body, and make a poor argument for no plane damage.

This is progress in the truther movement, doing a reality check on your math.

Next step will be to syncronice with everybody elses reality.

Travis
26th December 2008, 04:18 PM
Looks like someone else who thinks force scales directly proportional to weight.

Toke
26th December 2008, 04:46 PM
Looks like someone else who thinks force scales directly proportional to weight.
It does, mass times velocity squared.
It also happens to be completely irrelevant to his post.

Mel Odious
26th December 2008, 10:57 PM
Of Mice and Men

Small math, big truth
Twin Tower's weight: 500,000 ton = 500,000,000 kg
Boeing's weight: 200 ton = 200,000 kg
Man's weight: 70 kg
Boeing's velocity: 1000 km/h

500,000,000 : 200,000 = 70 : x

x = 0.028 kg = 28 g

500,000,000 : 1000 = 70 : y

y = 0.00014 km/h

Those Boeings that hit Twin Towers at the velocity of 1000 km/h are like two little mice that hit a man at the velocity of 0.00014 km/h

9/11 was an inside job absolutely. Also goats can understand this simple truth.

Calatrava


[/B]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1

I just pushed a matchbox car into a wall at a few inches per second with no visible damage occuring, which proves that Princess Diana's car shouldn't have been totalled in that crash.

I love CT physics. It's so easy compared to the real thing ...

Smackety
26th December 2008, 11:16 PM
Of Mice and Men

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1

I am not sure I understand the units in the second equation. kg/kph?

Travis
26th December 2008, 11:18 PM
It does, mass times velocity squared.
It also happens to be completely irrelevant to his post.

True, the real beauty of that post is the insane inclusion of the 500,000,000 : 1000 ratio which is meaningless.

patchbunny
26th December 2008, 11:25 PM
Of Mice and Men

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1

At last. Mathematical proof bullets aren't lethal.

stateofgrace
27th December 2008, 07:19 PM
I would like to nominate this, posted the day after Xmas by an admin at the loose change forum commenting on members of JREF. It is beyond stupid, it is beyond ridiculous, it speaks for itself.


Yeah, these are the type of losers that sit around lonely, with nobody to share the holidays with, planning to kill anybody they feels did them wrong, like that sick **** that shot up and set fire to a Christmas party in Los Angeles. Did anybody see this?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/C...santa.shooting/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/26/santa.shooting/index.html)

Manny, peterpiper, whoever the hell you are...are you planning to be the next Bruce Jeffrey Pardo in 2009?

See, it's crazy bastards like this guy, who couldn't handle the TRUTH that his marriage was over, that soon lose all touch with reality and wind up shooting 8 year old girls in the face point blank with a shotgun.

Get my drift?



http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1011670/1/

Yeah,I get your drift, you are insane.

Cl1mh4224rd
27th December 2008, 08:16 PM
See, it's crazy bastards like this guy, who couldn't handle the TRUTH that his marriage was over [...]


Or, perhaps, he couldn't handle the fact that his wife didn't see that they were meant for each other. Bruce Pardo could see it, but she couldn't see it. Why? Why couldn't she see The Truth™?!

Do we really need to remind Sir Gideon of Loose Change that it was one of his fellow truthers that murdered their own father? I don't think we do, because this is likely an attempt by him to distract from that fact...

Bell
28th December 2008, 05:24 AM
From a Dutch conspiracy site (http://wijwillenverandering.ning.com/forum/topics/wat-willen-wij-bereiken-en-hoe?page=1&commentId=2584846%3AComment%3A267&x=1#2584846Comment267) (Wij Willen Verandering is Dutch for We Want Change):

The conspiracy movement in a nutshell:

Daarom is het geen slecht idee om over bepaalde zaken zoals 9/11 vooral vragen te stellen en zeker niet met antwoorden komen want dat is en blijft gis werk.

Translation:

That is why it is not a bad idea to ask questions about certain events like 9/11 and certainly not come up with answers because that is and will be anyone's guess.

Then why the hell ask questions in the first place?

cow_cat
28th December 2008, 06:19 PM
9/11 was an inside job absolutely. Also goats can understand this simple truth.

I think we have a winner

Mel Odious
28th December 2008, 10:13 PM
Good things come to those who wait. Here's my David Icke Forums (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47171) Stundie nominee of the month:

Looking at the US Flag there are 13 stripes which would equal the 13 blood lines of the illuminati (Babylonian Brotherhood). 7 Red and 6 White lines. As everyone today knows that human blood consists of red blood cells and white blood cells. Now, why stars on a blue background? Perhaps because these 13 blood lines feel that they came from the stars and did not originate on earth.

Travis
28th December 2008, 10:34 PM
Ahh, the Icke forums. Proof that madness and typing ability are not mutually exclusive.

Grizzly Bear
28th December 2008, 11:32 PM
Of Mice and Men

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422310/pg1

More kool-aid for the missus? My IQ just lost 30 hit points reading that :rolleyes:

9/11 was an inside job absolutely. Also goats can understand this simple truth.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2384/4e40981ac427ad1c5bd0433br5.jpg

Mel Odious
29th December 2008, 10:10 PM
More evidence from Hollywood that 9/11 was an inside job: (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47335)

ok you guys will of probably picked up on the Nine eleven "hint" in the Will Smith Film "enemy of the state" but if you havent its there.

when Will Smith and Gene Hackman are downloading the video and they look for the name of the charicter played by John Voight they get his details up on screen, his Date of Birth is *9 - 11* - 40 - he is a corrupt politician and within minutes the high rise building that smith and Hackman is in blows up. will smith asks "what happened" hackman says "i blew up the building"

so we have

Corrupt politician
9-11
what happened
I blew up the building

There is also mentioned in the film "brave new world" i.e New world order.

(apologies if everyone's seen this - it was new to me)

patchbunny
30th December 2008, 12:03 AM
More evidence from Hollywood that 9/11 was an inside job: (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47335)


(apologies if everyone's seen this - it was new to me)

Gene Hackman blew up the WTC?

And he seemed like such a nice man...

Dr Adequate
30th December 2008, 03:37 PM
9/11-investigator confronts us with reality.

As you can see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPx_y8fsek) it is actually very simple to remote control a Boeing. Even a child can do it. ... Your question offered a nice opportunity to confront the forum readers with the reality of remote controlled airplanes

Damien Evans
30th December 2008, 07:08 PM
I nominate Galileo for the following post:
The 5 Steps of JREF Sheeple and Archie Debunking

Step 1

Watch TV.

Step 2

Continue to watch TV and wait for claims to be repeated.

Step 3

Accept as true anything repeated frequently on TV.

Step 4

Call anything that contradicts what you've learned from TV a conspiracy theory.

Step 5

Seek out psuedo-intellectuals who give you emotional support. Repeat Step 1 above.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4306123&postcount=1

Bell
30th December 2008, 07:14 PM
I nominate Galileo for the following post:


http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4306123&postcount=1

What what??

Alareth
30th December 2008, 08:49 PM
Does anyone else miss the simpler days where we could just sit back and be entertained by small things like Christophera getting caried away with replies and arguing with himself in the process?

Now we have to go looking for this stuff (Although not very hard)

Travis
30th December 2008, 10:00 PM
Does anyone else miss the simpler days where we could just sit back and be entertained by small things like Christophera getting caried away with replies and arguing with himself in the process?

Now we have to go looking for this stuff (Although not very hard)

Thankfully we have, as of late, become a forum with "crazy emigration" as opposed to "crazy immigration."

Smackety
30th December 2008, 11:02 PM
Thankfully we have, as of late, become a forum with "crazy emigration" as opposed to "crazy immigration."

This is a good thing? Really? Maybe we need more boobies?

JoeyDonuts
30th December 2008, 11:23 PM
Seconded.

Bell
31st December 2008, 03:23 AM
What what??

*smack*

I just noticed this is the stundies thread. I thought that post by Galileo was nominated for TLA. Duh...

Mel Odious
31st December 2008, 10:52 PM
I just don't know what to say to this ... (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47580)
Hypnotic UN brainwashing in Sydney Fireworks

Everyone try to find a good video of the Sydney 2008 New years eve fireworks. The circular symbol in the bridge was flashing repeatedly the whole time the UN symbol, intermixed with the freemasonry symbols of the two angles, which formed a reptilian eye in the center, and at the end, they had the "rays of light" coming out from behind the eye, which continued to show the UN symbol.

It showed many symbols but there were some particularly shown (etc.)

JoeyDonuts
1st January 2009, 09:46 AM
I just don't know what to say to this ... (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47580)

Ooooh man. Imagine what would happen if they played a round of Boom Boom Rocket....

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/779/779986/boom-boom-rocket--20070412075344081.jpg

WAAAH! Mind Control!!!

Bell
1st January 2009, 03:25 PM
I don't want to sound impatient but...
When is the poll coming up? When? When?

Okay, I DO want to sound impatient.