And Chick's hate goes on...

[Upchurch]

The Sky Lighter (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1011/1011_01.asp)

A timely entry in the volume of Jack's hate. I figured he was going for a back story on one of the 9/11 hijackers but it wasn't even that interesting. I guess the important part is that we remember that all muslims are religious extemist nutcases. :rolleyes:

[c4ts]

LMAO!! Suicide bombers represent Islam the way Jack Chick represents Christianity. It's a perfect match! Why blow yourself up for Allah when you could blow yourself up for Jeezus instead?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Upchurch
The Sky Lighter (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1011/1011_01.asp)

A timely entry in the volume of Jack's hate. I figured he was going for a back story on one of the 9/11 hijackers but it wasn't even that interesting. I guess the important part is that we remember that all muslims are religious extemist nutcases. :rolleyes:

Remember that not all Muslims are nutcases, leave out the bit about Yusuf preaching Jesus, and the last scene with the faceless one.

What's left isn't too far off.

[Starrman]

I want to know who blew off Jesus' face?

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Starrman
I want to know who blew off Jesus' face?

I'm guessing it was iconoclasts.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Starrman
I want to know who blew off Jesus' face?

Jesus wasn't available, so Chick used Doctor No-Face from the old Batman comic. :D

[MoeFaux]

Oh, that's so sad. It just breaks my heart.:(

[UnrepentantSinner]

What the hell is an Afghani (right panel) doing in Palestine?

http://www.chick.com/tractimages39275/1011/1011_20.gif

You have to admire the mastery with which he packs as many stereotypes into 22 pages as possible. I would comment about "just when you thought he couldn't go any lower, but I've come to expect JTC to go as low as possible.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner You have to admire the mastery with which he packs as many stereotypes into 22 pages as possible. I would comment about "just when you thought he couldn't go any lower, but I've come to expect JTC to go as low as possible.

Are you sure it's Palestine? The way the woman is dressed is not quite in synch with that either. A mere nitpick.

This is not nearly as low as his rants about how the Roman Catholic Church was responsible for both Communism and Nazism. Nor as crazy.

Did you notice that the Muslim kids look very like the Mexican kids in other Chick tracts? Maybe these are Mexican Muslims. :D

[UnrepentantSinner]

Yes.
http://www.chick.com/tractimages39275/1011/1011_04.gif

Did you notice that the Muslim kids look very like the Mexican kids in other Chick tracts? Maybe these are Mexican Muslims.

I think he has a generic non-black "darkie" look. And you just reminded me of an article I read in Dallas morning news regarding Hispanics embracing Islam here in the states. I'll probably start a new thread on it.

[CWL]

Gotta love Chick's check boxes:

http://www.chick.com/tractimages39275/Page23/enMuslimKJVboxes.gif

Where is the "Planet X" option?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
Yes.
(picture of Arafat on the wall)


Inconclusive. Arafat has admirers in lots of places.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by CWL
Gotta love Chick's check boxes:

Where is the "Planet X" option?

I'm convinced that Chick tracts never convinced anybody, but that Chick gets rich selling them to those who distribute them.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred
Inconclusive. Arafat has admirers in lots of places.

A lot of places other than Palestine where Imams are encouraging young boys to wear explosive belts, with Christians running around? I must not be aware of those places.

The Chador is straight out of Saudi or Iran and some of the head gear could be Egyptian or Iranian (a well as the guy wearing the Khyber hat being Afghani). I think in addition stereotypical behaviors, he's also using sterotypical appearances.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by CWL
Where is the "Planet X" option?

You must be linking to an older version.

[CWL]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


You must be linking to an older version.

Ah. That's better!

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


A lot of places other than Palestine where Imams are encouraging young boys to wear explosive belts, with Christians running around? I must not be aware of those places.

The Chador is straight out of Saudi or Iran and some of the head gear could be Egyptian or Iranian (a well as the guy wearing the Khyber hat being Afghani). I think in addition stereotypical behaviors, he's also using sterotypical appearances.

That pet dog in the foreground looks out of place, too.

I think this tract was obviously slapped together in a hurry. No thought out conspiracy theories or anything like that. Just current events given the usual nasty Chickish slant, with the Doctor No-Face impersonating Jehovah at the end.

It's a fine line between a stereotypical appearance and an attempted ethnic appearance drawn by a bad cartoonist. Should the Imam have a nasty little goatee, like the professor in the Chick classic Big Daddy? Who he resembles aside from the beard and clothing, by the way.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred
Should the Imam have a nasty little goatee, like the professor in the Chick classic Big Daddy? Who he resembles aside from the beard and clothing, by the way.

All the hook nosed stereotypes look the same to me.

Were you going to address the 1. Arafat, 2. kids with exploding belts, issues as well?

Have you ever lived in the Middle East (just asking btw curious due to your comments in this thread and Mad Arab persona)?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


All the hook nosed stereotypes look the same to me.

Were you going to address the 1. Arafat, 2. kids with exploding belts, issues as well?


OK, probably Palestine. However, there's some Chick tract that has South American revolutionaries "necklacing" someone.

So it could just be general Chickishness.


Have you ever lived in the Middle East (just asking btw curious due to your comments in this thread and Mad Arab persona)?

It's a Lovecraft reference. See my profile.

[Zep]

With any luck, Jack Chick will shuffle off this mortal coil soon enough...and be sorely disappointed when nothing further happens!

[Ratman_tf]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


That pet dog in the foreground looks out of place, too.


I call him 'Barkie'. He shows up in a lot of Chick Tracts.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred
It's a Lovecraft reference. See my profile.

That clarifies your profile (sorry, not a big Lovecraft reader), but let me try this again.

"Have you ever lived in the Middle East?"

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by c4ts
LMAO!! Suicide bombers represent Islam the way Jack Chick represents Christianity. It's a perfect match! Why blow yourself up for Allah when you could blow yourself up for Jeezus instead? Suicide bombers and Jack Chick represent their respective religions similarly only in a very broad way (i.e. "badly"). It doesn't strike me as a perfect match, though. As hateful as that Chick booklet (Chicklet?) is, writing it constitutes a considerable improvement over suicide bombing. And Chick - bless his twisted little heart - does seem to exhibit a strong preference for converting infidels rather than slaughtering them. I'll take homegrown American religious bigotry over the Middle Eastern variety any day.

[sophia8]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I think he has a generic non-black "darkie" look.
Actually, Chick doesn't do any of the art himself. He has a pet artist he always uses; apparently self-taught (I think there's an article about him somewhere on the Chick site), this guy obviously recycles the same stock figures that are easiest for him to draw. Correctly portraying cultural/racial details such as costumes and appearance is probably too difficult for him. A couple of the more detailed figures look posed and fit the background awkwardly, so he probably gets some magazine pictures of people who look vaguely Middle-Eastern and copies them.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
Suicide bombers and Jack Chick represent their respective religions similarly only in a very broad way (i.e. "badly"). It doesn't strike me as a perfect match, though. As hateful as that Chick booklet (Chicklet?) is, writing it constitutes a considerable improvement over suicide bombing. And Chick - bless his twisted little heart - does seem to exhibit a strong preference for converting infidels rather than slaughtering them. I'll take homegrown American religious bigotry over the Middle Eastern variety any day.

The same American religious bigotry that advocates blowing up abortion clinics, or nailing gay people to fences, or dragging them from the back of a truck?

[sophia8]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


The same American religious bigotry that advocates blowing up abortion clinics, or nailing gay people to fences, or dragging them from the back of a truck?
...or displaying bumber stickers reading" Nuke 'em all - let God sort 'em out"?

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto

The same American religious bigotry that advocates blowing up abortion clinics, or nailing gay people to fences, or dragging them from the back of a truck? Absolutely.

I'm not sure how many truck-draggings in the United States can be attributed to religious bigotry in its ordinary sense of "intolerance of religious beliefs differing from those of the subject", but let's consider abortion clinic violence as an example.

According to the National Abortion Federation (www.prochoice.org), in the past 27 years, in the United States and Canada combined, violence against abortion providers has resulted in a grand total of 7 murders. Seven in 27 years. Granted that each one was a tragedy, but to put things in perspective, 7 religiously-motivated murders corresponds to a slow day in the Middle East. I fear and detest religious bigotry in the United States, but given a hypothetical choice, I wouldn't swap it for some more exotic and violent foreign variety. Neither, I suspect, would you.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


That clarifies your profile (sorry, not a big Lovecraft reader), but let me try this again.

"Have you ever lived in the Middle East?"

Sorry I missed that. I've visited a lot, but never lived there.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


The same American religious bigotry that advocates blowing up abortion clinics, or nailing gay people to fences, or dragging them from the back of a truck?

Chick never advocated blowing up abortion clinics.

The perp in that case is now on trial for his life.

The other two were not religious bigotry.

And no amount of law will make it safe to pick up rough strangers in a bar. They got life in prison, by the way.

The draggers got the death penalty, though not yet executed.

I'd say the USA takes good care of such cases.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
Suicide bombers and Jack Chick represent their respective religions similarly only in a very broad way (i.e. "badly"). It doesn't strike me as a perfect match, though. As hateful as that Chick booklet (Chicklet?) is, writing it constitutes a considerable improvement over suicide bombing. And Chick - bless his twisted little heart - does seem to exhibit a strong preference for converting infidels rather than slaughtering them. I'll take homegrown American religious bigotry over the Middle Eastern variety any day.

I'm going to have to go with ceo_esq (the Chicklet is so clever, but too short to warrent a Language Award nomination) and our Mad Arab on this. The extreme perversions of Islam and Christianity, at this point in the game, definately are more on the side of Islam. I have friends who are Islamic, I lived in Iran for 3 years and I Pollyannishly stick to the concept that people are people but... The current Jihadiist Wahabbism that pervades Islam in the heart the Middle East, Afghanistan and to a lesser extent Indonesia and the Phillipenes is far more dangerous than the lone maniacal bomber blowing up abortion clinics.

I'm not excusing murder, but the last time I checked but the death toll for abortion clinic murders was 7-10 for people actively engaged in the issue. Last time I checked the death toll for Infidels who dared do things like get some pizza or go to work on a Tuesday was over 5000.

The biggest problem I have with Chick's anti-Islam tracts is that they make all Muslims into Wahabbiists. But then again, given his way, he'd make all Christians YEC anti-Catholics so we're back to who's actually damaging the public image of their religion more. I still have to go with those who actually kill than with those who spread intellectual poison.

[bozothedeathmachine]

Right panel, first 2 lines.

http://www.chick.com/tractimages39275/1011/1011_14.gif


Well, that just about sums up the whole "prophet" thing. It's kind of nice when Chick supports a rebuttal against himself.

Edit: There's supposed to be a pic there, but I guess we can't links Chick's site anymore.

[dissonance]

In the crowd scene, where the boy is about to blow himself up, there's a guy who bears a certain resemblance to Micheal Moore.

For some reason that strikes me as very amusing.

And is it just me, or do the women in this tract not look like women at all? They have such masculine faces!

[Jessica Blue]

I cant believe that comic strip. Are these cartoons meant for children? I felt so sorry for poor little Abdulla...after all Muhhamed LIED to him. It wasn't his fault! How could God be so cruel??!!

I almost cried.

Jack Chick is not really into the loving, merciful God thing is he?
He seems much more enamoured with the scary, veangeful, cant-wait-to-send-you-to-hell-you-miserable-sinner God. Either he's a brilliant satirist or he's one sick unit.


I love the way the old guy shakes excitably when he talks about he 70 virgins.
http://www.chick.com/tractimages56073/1011/1011_08.gif

[c4ts]

Originally posted by dissonance
In the crowd scene, where the boy is about to blow himself up, there's a guy who bears a certain resemblance to Micheal Moore.

For some reason that strikes me as very amusing.

And is it just me, or do the women in this tract not look like women at all? They have such masculine faces!

I think JTC is trying to make them look as unapealing as possible because they aren't Christian.

[Yahweh]

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[espritch]

What I find interesting about this is the kid in the tract has been raised from his birth to be a suicide bomber. So he talks with an old friend in a shed for a few minutes about Jesus and this makes him guilty in the eyes of God because he didn't repent and accept Jesus right then and there.

So I guess the lesson here is that every suicide bomber has had someone tell them about Jesus at least once so they all go to hell because they have no excuse. In fact, according to the tract, all Muslims go to hell, so I guess all Muslims have been preached to about Jesus at least once. Can't say God is unfair. :rolleyes:

[jimmygun]

Unrepentant Sinner...How many are dead from the Christian battles in Ireland? How many are dead from the Christians doing their 'Ethnic cleansing' in Bosnia? How many are dead from the Christian vs Muslims in Lebanon? Do these examples count or are they too old?

What you have to remember is that the Muslim terrorists have the backing of official governments in places like Iraq, Syria, etc. It is my firm belief that if a Christian fundy friendly government allowed them to do what they wished there would be plenty of bodies laying around to 'even up the score'. Case in point...the KKK and its political backers in the south during the first half of the 1900's. Don't give me the same old crap that the KKK didn't represent Christianity either. Who do you think would be remembered for their barbarism by their victims that saw their family members hanged from a tree in the glow of a giant burning cross?

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by dissonance
In the crowd scene, where the boy is about to blow himself up, there's a guy who bears a certain resemblance to Micheal Moore.

For some reason that strikes me as very amusing.

He's also wearing a baseball cap which, I believe is one of Moore's hallmarks.

[the_ignored]

Originally posted by c4ts


I think JTC is trying to make them look as unapealing as possible because they aren't Christian.

True. Look at the "Bob" series of tracts...
Look at the way "Janet" is drawn here,
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5002/5002_01.asp

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5008/5008_01.asp

Interesting aside here, in the second tract "Bob" asks "Shirley" a prostitute, if she knew how god treated "people like her"... he of course, only gives the cleaned up NT version. For some reason, he doesn't mention the way the OT god treated women "like her" or women period, for that matter!

[MoeFaux]

Originally posted by the_ignored


True. Look at the "Bob" series of tracts...
Look at the way "Janet" is drawn here,
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5002/5002_01.asp

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5008/5008_01.asp

Interesting aside here, in the second tract "Bob" asks "Shirley" a prostitute, if she knew how god treated "people like her"... he of course, only gives the cleaned up NT version. For some reason, he doesn't mention the way the OT god treated women "like her" or women period, for that matter!

****, that's appalling. That first link goes to a track that not only is filled with insanity, but it also slams intelligent women. It completely made the woman who was attending college look bad. Amazing. What a jerk.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

The hate goes on... The hate goes on.... La de da de de la de da de da

[c4ts]

I don't think the bible said there was a giant canopy of ice hovering over the earth since day 2. Wouldn't that block out the sun and freeze the oceans, making life on earth impossible? It makes no sense that it would increase the earth's temperature and give it perfect weather.

[Zep]

Chick, like Noah, doesn't have all his oars in the water...

[c4ts]

And another thing: I could have sworn there were more than 5,000 animal species on this planet, and that God gave Noah exact instructions regarding the size of the ark that would make it way too small to hold all those animals.

[triadboy]

Originally posted by c4ts
And another thing: I could have sworn there were more than 5,000 animal species on this planet, and that God gave Noah exact instructions regarding the size of the ark that would make it way too small to hold all those animals.

If I'm not mistaken, there was only one little window too. For a year!

[Mr Manifesto]

Never mind room to hold the animals, what was he going to feed the suckers? Beef jerky?

[c4ts]

I guess God surrounded the earth with a sphere of s**t which was conducive to a warm climate and kept the animals alive for 800 years.

[Flaherty]

I like the yes/no check boxes at the bottom after the question "Did you accept Jesus as your savior?" And the blank space for the date.

It's as if you're checking off chores on your to do list.

[Roadtoad]

You know, there used to be a time when a Chick tract was about how much Jesus loved you. Now, they've become Jack's pulpit for hate.

God don't love Muslims. God don't love Catholics. God don't love Gays. God don't love people who love Muslims, Catholics and Gays.

I guess God don't love me.:con2:

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Roadtoad
You know, there used to be a time when a Chick tract was about how much Jesus loved you. Now, they've become Jack's pulpit for hate.

God don't love Muslims. God don't love Catholics. God don't love Gays. God don't love people who love Muslims, Catholics and Gays.

I guess God don't love me.:con2:

God don't love nobody these days. My current suspicion is that Jack Chick himself became a vampire and so he's constantly looking for new blood. Either that or he's just grown more cantankerous and senile over the years.

[NightG1]

I know this is immature and childish but I had an hour to kill and needed the Quark Express pratice.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/nightg1/jack.jpg

[Roadtoad]

Is it just me, or does it really seem to be a reduction of Christianity to the level of witchcraft that you can only get into Heaven if you say just the right words!?!

[c4ts]

NO BCAUSE WICHCRAFT IS DEVIL WORSHIP DO YOU WORSHIP HE DEVIL SON???????