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Travis
2nd December 2008, 06:46 AM
Well the Tryptophan is wearing off and my kidneys are removing the arsenic from my system (don't tell me my family is the only one to use it in their stuffing) so here we go with the finals for the 28th Annual Stundie Awards for November, 2008.

1) Who needs depleted uranium armor and Haz Mat suits when we have Jesuits around?

Jesuits have survived an atomic blast at ground zero. They have been poisoned, shot, stabbed and still have survived....Popes who gave them the cup of Borgia found to their amazement and horror that they would not die.
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2) Several hundred tons of explosives and knives....what's the difference?

Why would it be impossible that someone managed to get explosives in there? If it's completely impossible to plant something in a discrete way where it's not supposed to be, how do you explain the knives that the hijackers managed to get onboard the planes?
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3) Some might say that someone who disbelieves anything they didn't see is cynical.....my theory is they're just insane.....and hard of heart.

Call me hard-hearted, but unless I am witness to the autopsy why should I trust news reports? Who ARE the news? What news?
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4) It seems a lot of people die in this world....and I find that mighty suspicious since we, apparently, can just will ourselves to live.

...generally, doesn't it seem to you that very ill moms and grandmas often will themselves to stay alive through a big event, like a child's or a grandchild's graduation or wedding . . . .and then they die?

If she had been suffering for some time, than why didn't she die earlier?
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5) Forgetting to not add zeros always throws me off too.


barack hussein obama 11/04/2008, dont add the zeros, 23, will be in office for 4 years, 2012 Mayans believed to be the end of the world, so maybe he will be the end of us!!!!
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6) It seems that physics is in on the conspiracy too.

Thermal expansion has no proof ,it has no precedent.
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7) Why it's almost as if there were some force that attracts mass to mass.

To me it looks almost as if cables are pulling on it! Although it's almost impossible to tell if it's a cable of floor assembly tugging it inwards. But when you also think about the unnatural direction of the top of the south tower when it begins to tip, yet seems to stop tipping and follow a path downwards, as if cables were stopping it from completely going over, keeping all the largest elements in the footprint?
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8) What makes you look ignorant; talking about a book written by a philosophy professor in Scotland or thinking that the Scottish professor somehow owned slaves to work the moors?

Were you trying to make yourself look more ignorant by talking about a book written 250 years ago by a powerful, rich white man who owned many slaves with a extremely dated value system.
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9) If you work in a branch of government that no one knows exists can you ever really know that your job actually exists?

Remember the movie Independence day, the president knew nothing of the secret underground base, I know its just a movie but I thought that seemed like a accurate portrayal. The secret facilities are probably maintained by another division of the government that no one knows about, just like theres a second space program besides NASA.
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10) I've never checked this but I consider it a slam dunk that one way to check if your car is a Toyota is to run across the street and ask the neighbor if their car is a Pontiac.

BTW, I've never checked this, but I consider it a slam dunk that one way to identify a left gatekeeper organization is to see if they've covered the topic of left gatekeeping, itself, seriously.
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11) That which-is-not-spoken-of is assured to exist which is why I never talk about a Caribbean tryst with Summer Glau..........damnit!

Hey guy's Try this out Search for any southern country (ie australia or malaysia) and nibiru within the last 24 hours. look at the descriptions of what it contains. Recent pics or whatever. I bet you cant find anything worthwhile.
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12) You'd think the top of the human hierarchy would get more than 1% of the federal budget.

NASA know exactly what is on or is not on mars since they are near the top of the human hierarchy. To view the very top of this pyramid would mean direct communications with the vatican who authorise all space generated images prior to their publication. This is merely a game with them giving us up to date failures of communication with mars. They imply contact is halted as a result of some failure or whatever to keep us interested and accepting of their fabricated story.
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13) Cognition, meet Dissonance. Dissonance, this is Cognition.

Keep in mind that this is the P/C board. Area 51 alien theories are commonly shared here enough that it's usually just assumed to be true, whether or not that's what really happened.
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14) If 99% of the people think Karl Popper never lived then he never lived.....apparently.

Truth in science is based on consensus. If 99% of the scientists accept the earth-centric model, as was the case for 1500 years or so in Europe, than that's the truth for you. Until some 'liar' comes along with a different heliocentric model. Read Thomas Kuhn, The structure of Scientific Revolutions. In the end that story wins the truth-label that best/efficient explains observed facts.
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15) Smokey The Bear warns about forest fires and then they happen......me thinks that anthropomorphic Ursidae is an arsonist.

To the best of our knowledge and according to the experts we trust and respect, there is no such thing as 'al Qaeda' any more than it existed in its original form as a CIA construct. Further, Osama bin Laden is, in all likelihood, no longer above room temperature. The 'warning' below is another indication of a major false flag attack...like 9-11, the 7-7 London bombings, the Spain train massacre, the Bali slaughter, etc. The Israelis often seem to warn about such attacks...and years later wind up being prime suspects or are somehow alleged to be involved in them. In this case, a nice clear warning would give them a post-attack blanket of insulation and plausible deniability.
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16) Why do my ceramic plates always choose to destroy themselves when I drop them on the floor when they could choose to bounce?

They, the matchboxes, have two possibilites! Bounce or destroy themselves. So they decided to bounce. All explained above.

The upper part of WTC1 had the same choice.

Personally I would bounce.
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17) So this is what happens when you combine lazy nihilism with political activism.

We can do something. We can stop voting
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18) It seems that indestructible Jesuits are also both easily controlled and excellent long duration planners.

A Jesuit by trade is as controlled as a Jesuit priest. Wonder if Dan Brown knows that. You may say that they don't think that far ahead, well I have seen the document when the second world war was declared and that was in 1926.


There you have it folks. Vote and kill kittens.....er....no just vote.

GStan
2nd December 2008, 08:22 AM
Had to go with Independence Day, but this was a pretty good month.

I also like the guy who wants to witness every autopsy....ever....in order to believe the autopsy report. Wow.

Dave Rogers
2nd December 2008, 08:52 AM
#2 for the blissful absence of a sense of proportion.

#6 for outstanding services to cluelessness.

#10 because I know who posted it, and I find his extraordinary level of cognitive dissonance a perpetual source of entertainment.

#15 because I nominated it, and I remember the context.

And remember, folks, if you don't vote, the kittens could be killing you!

Dave

Mashuna
2nd December 2008, 09:01 AM
ALL OF THEM!

Well, most of them. Just crazyness.

Travis
2nd December 2008, 09:10 AM
I have to admit, all the Jesuit stuff this month certainly took craziness to new, pathetic levels.

NobbyNobbs
2nd December 2008, 09:18 AM
Well the Tryptophan is wearing off and my kidneys are removing the arsenic from my system (don't tell me my family is the only one to use it in their stuffing) so here we go with the finals for the 28th Annual Stundie Awards for November, 2008.


28th Annual? for November?

Is this the 28th monthly award? Or the 28th year it's been awarded in November?

Is there a joke I'm missing?

Travis
2nd December 2008, 09:24 AM
28th Annual? for November?

Is this the 28th monthly award? Or the 28th year it's been awarded in November?

Is there a joke I'm missing?

It's the 28th Annual every month.:D

Look at the trophy!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/12744460f418e6b3d3.gif

tomwaits
2nd December 2008, 12:11 PM
I'm sad that the "arabs are more semitic than the jews" comment didn't make it.

JihadJane
2nd December 2008, 12:21 PM
Is it possible to nominate the Stundie Awards for a Stundie Award for ultimate sadness?

dudalb
2nd December 2008, 01:09 PM
I have to admit, all the Jesuit stuff this month certainly took craziness to new, pathetic levels.

I agree, except the Jesuit crap is not exactly new. It has been around for a long time. But we have had a nasty outbreak of it here. Maybe members of the Orange Order have begun posting here.

I have to go with #2 for it sheer stupidity.

TjW
2nd December 2008, 04:42 PM
28th Annual? for November?

Is this the 28th monthly award? Or the 28th year it's been awarded in November?

Is there a joke I'm missing?

Yes.

TjW
2nd December 2008, 04:50 PM
28th Annual? for November?

Is this the 28th monthly award? Or the 28th year it's been awarded in November?

Is there a joke I'm missing?

However, I'll help you out.
At the time of their inauguration, one of the most prolific Stundie-ers was a poster called, curiously enough, Stundie.

However, nearly as prolific, and nearly as goofy, was 28th Kingdom.

So the very first one was the 28th Annual Stundie Award.

TjW
2nd December 2008, 04:53 PM
Is it possible to nominate the Stundie Awards for a Stundie Award for ultimate sadness?

Well, you could, I suppose. And you could enter a book in a film festival, or a cat in a dog show, or the reverse.

But as in those cases, don't be surprised if the entry doesn't finish well.

leonAzul
2nd December 2008, 05:55 PM
#6

The sheer arrogance of this assertion is only superseded by the ignorance it reveals.

Feature request:

Is it possible to include links to the original post in future Stundie polls in order to provide context?

PhantomWolf
2nd December 2008, 05:57 PM
Well looks like it's gunna be a scrap between 1, 6, and 16. Unlike last months clear victor.

Travis
2nd December 2008, 08:00 PM
Is it possible to nominate the Stundie Awards for a Stundie Award for ultimate sadness?

That would create a recursive Stundie loop that would tear time and space apart and make Doc Brown very mad.

#6

The sheer arrogance of this assertion is only superseded by the ignorance it reveals.

Feature request:

Is it possible to include links to the original post in future Stundie polls in order to provide context?

A while back we had a blow up and it was decided to make the Stundies anonymous. However the quotes are from this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127761) where the links to their context is kept.

Travis
2nd December 2008, 08:02 PM
I'm sad that the "arabs are more semitic than the jews" comment didn't make it.

I intended to include it and simply forgot.:o Such is the peril when you do the poll early in the morning when you're not fully awake yet.

I'll probably carry it over to next months finals.

gumboot
3rd December 2008, 03:51 AM
I was stuck between 1) and 16). In the end I went with 16) because of it's particularly spectacular level of stupid.

Travis
3rd December 2008, 04:04 AM
I was stuck between 1) and 16). In the end I went with 16) because of it's particularly spectacular level of stupid.

I almost didn't include 16 because it seemed to absurd that I couldn't believe that the poster actually wrote it but.....after checking it out.....:eye-poppi:covereyes

Seanette
3rd December 2008, 04:19 AM
Could someone please explain this award for the newer arrivals? :D

Dave Rogers
3rd December 2008, 04:20 AM
I almost didn't include 16 because it seemed to absurd that I couldn't believe that the poster actually wrote it but.....after checking it out.....:eye-poppi:covereyes

Knowing who posted it, I wasn't in the least surprised.

Dave

Dave Rogers
3rd December 2008, 05:19 AM
Could someone please explain this award for the newer arrivals? :D

The 28th Annual Stundie Award (it's always the 28th Annual award, for reasons explained elsewhere) was set up to recognise the outstandingly fractured logic peculiar to conspiracy theorists. The monthly award goes to the statement made online by a conspiracy theorists in that month that is considered by the voters to display the most entertaining combination of logical inconsistency, absurdity, committment to error, and ideally arrogant disdain of those capable of formulating a chain of logic. The awards are named for a former, now banned, JREF member who was noted for these qualities in abundance. Quotes are presented with minimal context, as a good Stundie should fail the guffaw test when read in isolation (there's the little matter of compliance with the spirit of the forum rules as well; words have been spoken at times).

Please feel free to add your own contributions to the nominations thread, ideally as a nominator rather than a nominee. And welcome to the forum.

Dave

Dr Adequate
3rd December 2008, 05:33 AM
Could someone please explain this award for the newer arrivals? :D 9/11 Glossary :

Stundie

Monthly award for the silliest thing said by a conspiracy theorist, as voted for by members of the JREF forums; also, any statement silly enough to deserve nomination. Named after a flagrantly silly Truther with the Internet username of Stundie.

The word Stundie can also be used as a verb, meaning to nominate a statement for a Stundie.

dtugg
3rd December 2008, 12:25 PM
I am going with 16 because it is incredibly stupid and because I nominated it.

Agatha
3rd December 2008, 04:21 PM
There's a lot of crazy there, it's very hard to pick one (or two or three). All of them would be worthy winners

* 16 because the concept of anthropomorphic buildings is a special kind of crazy.

* 1 because not everyone can grasp that Heroes is just a tellybox programme and not reality.

*11. If I search for "Ewan McGregor to marry the poster known as Agatha" in google, and no results are found, it must be going to happen. Result!

Honourable mention - 6. I knew there was magic inside my electric kettle.

PhantomWolf
3rd December 2008, 05:49 PM
The monthly award goes to the statement made online by a conspiracy theorists in that month

Monthly award for the silliest thing said by a conspiracy theorist

I'd point out that while the majority 99.9999999% are indeed from CTs, there is nothing in the rules that states that only CTs are to be represented, and in fact anyone, even a debunker, who makes a side splittingly silly comment in reference to a Conspiracy Theory is eligible for the award.

Horatius
3rd December 2008, 07:01 PM
...anyone, even a debunker, who makes a side splittingly silly comment in reference to a Conspiracy Theory is eligible for the award.



All that effort (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=80591), and not one nomination.....sigh...




;)

stilicho
3rd December 2008, 07:10 PM
Honestly, given the choice, I'd bounce too. Isn't there a Hitchhiker's Guide anecdote about carrying your towel and rolling when you hit the ground after a long fall?

NobbyNobbs
3rd December 2008, 08:30 PM
I had to go with #9. If I ever met the kind of person who goes by the logic of "Well, Hollywood made it seem realistic, therefore it actually must have happened", I think I'd be speechless.

funk de fino
3rd December 2008, 11:20 PM
10. Because it is my first nomination thats has made the finals.

Dr Adequate
4th December 2008, 12:03 AM
I also like the guy who wants to witness every autopsy....ever....in order to believe the autopsy report. Wow. I think more context should have been included for that one ... it's funnier if you realize that this is his basis for suspecting Obama of murdering his granny.

PhantomWolf
4th December 2008, 01:59 AM
All that effort (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=80591), and not one nomination.....sigh...




;)

Sorry, they didn't fall into the silly category. :p

Travis
4th December 2008, 06:49 AM
*11. If I search for "Ewan McGregor to marry the poster known as Agatha" in google, and no results are found, it must be going to happen. Result!

That's the spirit. Speak not of it so that it might be true.:D

I'd point out that while the majority 99.9999999% are indeed from CTs, there is nothing in the rules that states that only CTs are to be represented, and in fact anyone, even a debunker, who makes a side splittingly silly comment in reference to a Conspiracy Theory is eligible for the award.

True. I kinda wish a debunker would get a truly Stundie worthy quote nominated so that it would shut up the Stundie detractors.

I had to go with #9. If I ever met the kind of person who goes by the logic of "Well, Hollywood made it seem realistic, therefore it actually must have happened", I think I'd be speechless.

Ahh yes, the "The Matrix and V is for Vendetta were documentaries" crowd.

10. Because it is my first nomination thats has made the finals.

I loved that one, and I voted for it myself.

I think more context should have been included for that one ... it's funnier if you realize that this is his basis for suspecting Obama of murdering his granny.

True, with more context it is funnier but I thought it was funny enough on its own.

Myron Proudfoot
4th December 2008, 06:47 PM
Not adding the zeros still boggles my mind... had to vote for it.

tyr_13
4th December 2008, 08:53 PM
Wow.

Number 9, "just like there's a second space program besides NASA."

That's just crazy. To think that the EU, or Japan, or China, or Russia have a space program?

Or the US Air Force for that matter....or private companies....

Spud1k
6th December 2008, 01:16 PM
Any quote that contains the immortal words "I know its just a movie but..." deserves a vote. Plus 1 got one for sheer daftness and 2 for the fact that it displays quite plainly the tenuous connection with reality some CTists have.

Cobalt
9th December 2008, 04:12 AM
16. That's just beautiful, in a "The hell?" kind of way.

Belz...
10th December 2008, 10:12 AM
Personally, I would bounce, too.

Grizzly Bear
10th December 2008, 09:17 PM
16 is golden enough :>

JohnG
10th December 2008, 09:44 PM
I kinda wish a debunker would get a truly Stundie worthy quote nominated so that it would shut up the Stundie detractors.


I think I just found my new year's resolution.

leonAzul
10th December 2008, 10:29 PM
Could someone please explain this award for the newer arrivals? :D 9/11 Glossary :

Stundie

Monthly award for the silliest thing said by a conspiracy theorist, as voted for by members of the JREF forums; also, any statement silly enough to deserve nomination. Named after a flagrantly silly Truther with the Internet username of Stundie.

The word Stundie can also be used as a verb, meaning to nominate a statement for a Stundie.

It should be pointed out that there is indeed a person whose online 'nick' is 'Stundie (http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showuser=594)', and that it is after the peculiar mix of bravado and ignorance which characterize his ejaculations that these awards commemorate.

TheWeirdSkeptic
10th December 2008, 10:31 PM
I went for 1,3,6, and 16.

I could sympathize with 3 because I don't know who the news are... I just drink my flouridated water and listen to them.

Travis
11th December 2008, 02:02 PM
Personally, I would bounce, too.

Belz! I hadn't seen you around lately.

Dr Adequate
12th December 2008, 02:21 AM
It should be pointed out that there is indeed a person whose online 'nick' is 'Stundie (http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showuser=594)', and that it is after the peculiar mix of bravado and ignorance which characterize his ejaculations that these awards commemorate. Surely that is pointed out, in the second sentence.

Smackety
12th December 2008, 02:26 AM
Surely that is pointed out, in the second sentence.

Then you agree! :D

CptColumbo
12th December 2008, 06:34 AM
Surely that is pointed out, in the second sentence.But the way he/she says it makes it sound sexier than it is.

Belz...
12th December 2008, 10:10 AM
Belz! I hadn't seen you around lately.

Sorry about that. I moved to Québec city in July and I kinda focused on other things for a while.

But I'm back, baby, and those woo-woos better hide. For they have finally found the antidote to ignorance, and that's ME! :cool:




Okay, maybe not THAT awesome...