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parky76
3rd December 2008, 03:32 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hit-tv-series-to-feature-911-conspiracy-plot.html

Some truthers see this as some sort of victory. It is the exact opposite. Leary states that he doesn't believe in the conspiracy theories, and when asked about WTC 7, be basically says "you guys dont want to get into that with me..I had friends who fought to protect that building".

Then, as he says goodbye, he has this look on his face like he is thinking "goodbye, freaks. leave me alone. please dont come back. oy vey!!".

Alt+F4
3rd December 2008, 03:46 PM
Leary is a bum. He doesn't care about the FDNY or 9/11. He just wants to push his insulting, piece-of-trash book.

moon1969
3rd December 2008, 04:35 PM
The WTC7 thing is just so stupid. Why would Larry Silverstein blow up his own building? :mad: It looks like twoofers only want Larry Silverstein to be a part of the plot because he is a rich joo. Larry Silverstein seems like a very smart man.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 04:46 PM
derail...but not reported.

Leary is no truther.

Bobert
3rd December 2008, 05:10 PM
Leary is a bum. He doesn't care about the FDNY or 9/11. He just wants to push his insulting, piece-of-trash book.
??

Mancman
3rd December 2008, 05:19 PM
He blatantly and shamelessly stole Bill Hicks' act.

But if he hates idiot twoofers he's alright.

Bobert
3rd December 2008, 05:24 PM
He blatantly and shamelessly stole Bill Hicks' act.

But if he hates idiot twoofers he's alright.
aaaaah got it now thanks!
Leary seems very personable though even taking the time to ask the fan if the picture came out ok.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 05:25 PM
If he is from the NY area..he is alright with me.

:D

Alex Libman
3rd December 2008, 05:29 PM
What does WTC 7 have to do with 9/11 Truth?

CptColumbo
3rd December 2008, 05:36 PM
If he is from the NY area..he is alright with me.

:D
Judging from his rants about Bucky "[rule 10]ing" Dent, I dont think that is the case.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 05:43 PM
What does WTC 7 have to do with 9/11 Truth?

um.....are you kidding? it is their Holy Grail!!!

1337m4n
3rd December 2008, 06:23 PM
What does 9/11 have to do with 9/11 Truth?

Homeland Insurgency
3rd December 2008, 06:28 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hit-tv-series-to-feature-911-conspiracy-plot.html

Some truthers see this as some sort of victory. It is the exact opposite. Leary states that he doesn't believe in the conspiracy theories, and when asked about WTC 7, be basically says "you guys dont want to get into that with me..I had friends who fought to protect that building".

Then, as he says goodbye, he has this look on his face like he is thinking "goodbye, freaks. leave me alone. please dont come back. oy vey!!".

Where is the diss again?

parky76
3rd December 2008, 06:33 PM
"you guys dont want to get into that with me..I had friends who fought to protect that building".

usually, when people don't want to talk to you about the topic you want to talk about, its a bit of an insult.

but hey, if you think this was a sign of endearmant, more power to ya.

Homeland Insurgency
3rd December 2008, 06:41 PM
"you guys dont want to get into that with me..I had friends who fought to protect that building".

usually, when people don't want to talk to you about the topic you want to talk about, its a bit of an insult.

but hey, if you think this was a sign of endearmant, more power to ya.

Well hey, if you want to show me how Leary and his show giving attention to 9/11 truth is a diss then, I'm all ears.

Did you forget the part of the article where someone else on that show is a truther?

Do you debunkers here ever have any effect at all? When will it all go away? lol

parky76
3rd December 2008, 06:44 PM
Do you debunkers here ever have any effect at all? When will it all go away? lol

um...we clearly have an effect on you. otherwise you wouldn't mention us at all.

anyways, Leary does not believe 9-11 conspiracy theories. good for him. his career is not threatened.

Homeland Insurgency
3rd December 2008, 06:48 PM
um...we clearly have an effect on you. otherwise you wouldn't mention us at all.

anyways, Leary does not believe 9-11 conspiracy theories. good for him. his career is not threatened.

Nothing huh?

Why do you even start these threads that either go nowhere or blowup in your face?

parky76
3rd December 2008, 06:50 PM
Nothing huh?

Why do you even start these threads that either go nowhere or blowup in your face?

um....why are you responding to threads that you claim go nowhere. there are already 17 replies..partially thanks to YOU!!

=)

T.A.M.
3rd December 2008, 06:52 PM
It is amusing actually, but must be really aggrevating to those who rally behind the twoof.

I mean here it is going on seven years, thats over 2500 days, and despite the Overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, still no one is listening, no one cares, most laugh at their idiocy.

Must really be annoying...lol

TAM;)

parky76
3rd December 2008, 06:55 PM
It is amusing actually, but must be really aggrevating to those who rally behind the twoof.

I mean here it is going on seven years, thats over 2500 days, and despite the Overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, still no one is listening, no one cares, most laugh at their idiocy.

Must really be annoying...lol

TAM;)


now now..lets be nice.

there are maybe 3,500 Americans who care about 9-11 truth.

:D

Bobert
3rd December 2008, 06:58 PM
Where is the diss again?
LOL WOW brother if you cant see how those truthers basically got tossed out on their asses then you need help.
That chick didnt even seem like she could put together a simple sentence.

AJM8125
3rd December 2008, 06:59 PM
If he is from the NY area..he is alright with me.

:D

He's actually from Worcester, Mass. and he's alright by me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Leary

I personally can't wait for these new episodes to air. Knowing Leary's style, I think it's safe to say there'll be a whole lotta troofer bashing going on.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 07:01 PM
Worcester..is sorta close to Columbia County, NY. So he is ok by me.

=)


(by the way...its pronounced "Worstah"....not "Worchester")

Homeland Insurgency
3rd December 2008, 07:02 PM
It is amusing actually, but must be really aggrevating to those who rally behind the twoof.

I mean here it is going on seven years, thats over 2500 days, and despite the Overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, still no one is listening, no one cares, most laugh at their idiocy.

Must really be annoying...lol

TAM;)

It must be sad <edit> watching Denis Leary commit the first 10 episodes of his hit series to 9/11 conspiracy.

Didn't anyone tell him that 9/11 conspiracy junk is all over?

Why did you debunkers start this thread again?
Personal attack edited. Please refrain from personalizing arguments.

Bobert
3rd December 2008, 07:03 PM
Well hey, if you want to show me how Leary and his show giving attention to 9/11 truth is a diss then, I'm all ears.
This is a complete lie. Leary made NO SUCH statement regarding his show giving any attention to 9-11 truth.
Clean out that ear wax.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 07:03 PM
Personal attack edited

nice man...real nice.

i started this thread because it was an interesting event in trutherdom.

RKOwens4
3rd December 2008, 07:09 PM
There's a YouTube video of Denis Leary on I think Glenn Beck where they talk about the 9/11 conspiracies and he says how many of his firefighter friends were at the scene of WTC7 and talked about the fires and damage and knew that it was going to collapse.

Also, I don't know how the truthers take his statement that one of the upcoming episodes will deal with the 9/11 conspiracy theories as something positive. Chances are, the episode will be about putting these lies to rest, not advocating them. Dennis Leary strongly rejects the 9/11 conspiracy theories and then sounds excited when he says they'll be in the plot of an upcoming episode. Truthers, when you put two and two together, do you conclude that this is going to be supportive of your ideas?

parky76
3rd December 2008, 07:11 PM
i have no doubt, that as people who respect the FDNY, these episodes will do nothing but seek to dispel all these silly 9-11 conspiracy myths. they may even have some folks acting as truthers, and will certainly portray them in a very less then positive light.

mainstream folks..and actors..who love NYC.....hate 9-11 conspiracy theories.

A W Smith
3rd December 2008, 07:25 PM
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parky76
3rd December 2008, 07:27 PM
Well, from this video, it is clear that Leary is under the control of NWO fluoridated water mind-control.

Horatius
3rd December 2008, 07:53 PM
Truthers, when you put two and two together, do you conclude that this is going to be supportive of your ideas?




Based on their demonstrated mathematical abilities to date, I suspect that, yes, they do.

parky76
3rd December 2008, 07:55 PM
anytime.... anyone...anywhere.......mentions a 9-11 conspiracy theory..they consider it a step toward "Revolucion!!"

VespaGuy
3rd December 2008, 08:00 PM
Worcester..is sorta close to Columbia County, NY. So he is ok by me.

=)


(by the way...its pronounced "Worstah"....not "Worchester")

Actually, it's pronounced "woos-tah" and even occasionally pronounced "wiss-tah". Don't even get me started on the pronounciation of "quahog"

/native New Englander
//went to Worcester Polytecnic Institute

parky76
3rd December 2008, 08:02 PM
Leary is still good in my eyes.

great-grandfathers lived in Fall River and Worcester.

....Schenectady. =)

Homeland Insurgency
3rd December 2008, 08:02 PM
There's a YouTube video of Denis Leary on I think Glenn Beck where they talk about the 9/11 conspiracies and he says how many of his firefighter friends were at the scene of WTC7 and talked about the fires and damage and knew that it was going to collapse.

Also, I don't know how the truthers take his statement that one of the upcoming episodes will deal with the 9/11 conspiracy theories as something positive. Chances are, the episode will be about putting these lies to rest, not advocating them. Dennis Leary strongly rejects the 9/11 conspiracy theories and then sounds excited when he says they'll be in the plot of an upcoming episode. Truthers, when you put two and two together, do you conclude that this is going to be supportive of your ideas?

Really? Did Glenn bring up any of his NWO theories?

Glenn Beck’s New World Order Diatribe
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5202

Jonnyclueless
3rd December 2008, 09:43 PM
It must be sad <edit> watching Denis Leary commit the first 10 episodes of his hit series to 9/11 conspiracy.

Didn't anyone tell him that 9/11 conspiracy junk is all over?

Why did you debunkers start this thread again?
Personal attack edited. Please refrain from personalizing arguments.

Dennis, they guy when asked what he thinks of the conspiracy theory and says "I don't believe any of that", and the Dennis who says "You don't want to get into that with me, I knew some of the guys fighting to keep that building up"? Yeah looks like a real winner for the truth movement. And understandable that he would get offended by a movement that tries to flat out accuse the firefighters of being part of the conspiracy and then pretending that they aren't making such a claim.

It's a fictional show. Not a documentary. Just because a fictional show covers something, doesn't mean they think it's true. Do you think that everyone who makes a scie-fi movie thinks that everything in the movies is real? Do you think everyone who makes a movie about the Nazi's supports the Nazi's?

9/11 was a major event for firefighters. So clearly covering it on a TV show about firefighters is going to be expected. Say, those King Kong movies sure are a big victoer to all the people who think giant apes roam the Earth eh?

CHF
3rd December 2008, 09:49 PM
Truthers, when you put two and two together, do you conclude that this is going to be supportive of your ideas?

At this point they jump for joy whenever someone acknowledges their existence.

Alex Libman
3rd December 2008, 10:13 PM
um.....are you kidding? it is their Holy Grail!!!

I don't have a Holy Grail.

(And why would I want a grail with a hole in it?)

greyleonard
3rd December 2008, 10:32 PM
At this point they jump for joy whenever someone acknowledges their existence.
Bingo.

eromitlab
4th December 2008, 01:13 AM
Truthers, when you put two and two together, do you conclude that this is going to be supportive of your ideas?

Just remember, this is the bunch that thought the South Park 9/11 conspiracy episode, the one that called them retarded multiple times, was a positive thing for them.
CHF nailed it, basically... truthers just want someone to pay attention to them, or to mention the things they talk about in their bubble, outside of their bubble. The reason might vary, but the premise is the same.

PhantomWolf
4th December 2008, 01:57 AM
Well hey, if you want to show me how Leary and his show giving attention to 9/11 truth is a diss then, I'm all ears.

I guess by that logic Penn and Teller didn't diss them either.... lol

Mince
4th December 2008, 06:44 AM
What does WTC 7 have to do with 9/11 Truth?

Nothing. WTC 7 concerns the Super Bowl. So all WTC 7 threads should be in the sports forum.

Mods?

Mince
4th December 2008, 06:53 AM
Well hey, if you want to show me how Leary and his show giving attention to 9/11 truth is a diss then, I'm all ears.

Like when the BBC gave attention to 9/11 Truth?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6160775.stm



Do you debunkers here ever have any effect at all?


In the whole vast configuration of things, we have as much effect as the truth movement, in that most of the rest of the thinking world doesn't much care for the truth movement's falsities and the "debunkers" efforts to dispute them. Let people be idiots, I say; as long as they keep it in their own little online world. To that end, truthers are doing a fantastic job!

Travis
4th December 2008, 07:07 AM
Leary has been a big supporter of firefighters in general for some time now so this isn't surprising.

Alt+F4
4th December 2008, 08:17 AM
Don't mean to derail, but considering the horrible things Leary said in his book about autistic children, I couldn't give a damn how he feels about 9/11.

The author of this letter is a real firefighter. Timothy Dwyer spent sixteen years with FDNY before leaving his career to become full time caregiver for his son who has autism.

http://www.thebravest.com/FDNYNewsArchive/1008/15b.htm

njslim
4th December 2008, 11:44 AM
Leary is a bum. He doesn't care about the FDNY or 9/11. He just wants to push his insulting, piece-of-trash book.

Leary has been a strong supporter of the fire service and did a number of benefits to
help them over the years

Leary Firefighters Foundation

http://www.learyfirefighters.org/programs-ma-tf2.php

His cousin Jermiah Lucey was one of the 6 FF killed in the 1999 warehouse fire in
his hometown of Worcester Mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_Cold_Storage_Warehouse_fire

Benefits

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_/ai_63592337

http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/News/Worcester--Mass-Unveils-New-Firefighter-Training-Facility/46$56644

skepticalcriticalguy
4th December 2008, 03:10 PM
um...we clearly have an effect on you. otherwise you wouldn't mention us at all.

anyways, Leary does not believe 9-11 conspiracy theories. good for him. his career is not threatened.

You mean like Charlie Sheen's career was threatened? (Actually, it WAS threatened. By Bill O'Reilley). But his show went to #1 after he spoke out. (Not implying a causal effect here).

Mr.Herbert
4th December 2008, 03:28 PM
Leary has been a strong supporter of the fire service and did a number of benefits to
help them over the years

Leary Firefighters Foundation


I am from Mass and actually worked briefly with Dennis Leary during one of his charity events on Cape Cod. We chatted for a while while we were figuring out the lighting for Wanda Sykes** who was doing a skit at his event. He is crude, rude, and funny as hell. I told him there was not smoking in the club... he told me to ____ myself. :D

He has done quite a bit for the firefighters. However, I do agree that his book was WAY out of line regarding Autistic children and their parents.

skepticalcriticalguy
4th December 2008, 05:49 PM
Leary has been a big supporter of firefighters in general for some time now so this isn't surprising.

He's also been a big supporter of really lame comedy. (And stealing jokes).

Jonnyclueless
4th December 2008, 10:26 PM
Don't mean to derail, but considering the horrible things Leary said in his book about autistic children, I couldn't give a damn how he feels about 9/11.

The author of this letter is a real firefighter. Timothy Dwyer spent sixteen years with FDNY before leaving his career to become full time caregiver for his son who has autism.

http://www.thebravest.com/FDNYNewsArchive/1008/15b.htm

Leary didn't say a single horrible thing about Autistic children in his book, people just didn't bother to read it. If they had, they would have read the part where he explains that he is talking about parents who just assume their kids have autism when the child doesn't actually have it. It's in the following paragraph below the one that everyone decided to cherry pick.

Jonnyclueless
4th December 2008, 10:28 PM
You mean like Charlie Sheen's career was threatened? (Actually, it WAS threatened. By Bill O'Reilley). But his show went to #1 after he spoke out. (Not implying a causal effect here).

And now he does underwear commercials.

MarkyX
4th December 2008, 11:23 PM
You mean like Charlie Sheen's career was threatened? (Actually, it WAS threatened. By Bill O'Reilley).


I can't believe I'm defending Bill here but...

He meant that Charlie talking about 9/11 was an inside job would cause people to disassociate him because being a 9/11 denier is basically telling everyone "I'm an idiot"

How the hell could Bill have any sort of impact on Charlie's career?

AJM8125
5th December 2008, 12:25 AM
Leary didn't say a single horrible thing about Autistic children in his book, people just didn't bother to read it. If they had, they would have read the part where he explains that he is talking about parents who just assume their kids have autism when the child doesn't actually have it. It's in the following paragraph below the one that everyone decided to cherry pick.

The funny thing is Leary has made a career of making controversial statements on a number of hot button topics like teen suicide, substance abuse, disease, the catholic church, etc. To my knowledge he's never backed off from any of his views, which is why I take him at his word (I haven't read his book) when he says he was taken out of context.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=210856&title=Denis-Leary

neltana
5th December 2008, 07:50 AM
Yeah, I think Leary gave a very clear explanation of what he was trying to say in his book. He wasn't saying bad things about autistic kids and the full context backs that up.

Leary may have a caustic persona, but he has always seemed to be on the right side of some good causes. After his cousin died fighting a warehouse fire (I think it was his cousin), he was out in Western Mass. helping local fire departments raise money for new equipment.

There is no way this guy supports the 9/11 truth movement.

==Derail==
BTW, I live to the west of Worcester. Here, it is pronounced more like "wuh-ster." People who live to the east of Worcester seem to pronounce it "woo-stah," but that is because they hate the letter "r" and leave it off of everything. Where I live, we actually add extra "r"s, since we like them so much...thus soda may be pronouced "so-der."

I have no idea how people who actually live in Worcester pronounce it...but they are irrelevant.
==End Derail==

Alt+F4
5th December 2008, 08:18 AM
Leary didn't say a single horrible thing about Autistic children in his book, people just didn't bother to read it. If they had, they would have read the part where he explains that he is talking about parents who just assume their kids have autism when the child doesn't actually have it. It's in the following paragraph below the one that everyone decided to cherry pick.

Perhaps Leary is a conspiracy theorist after all. Is he suggesting that parents and doctors are conspiring together to come up with all these autism diagnoses?

neltana
5th December 2008, 08:21 AM
the internets liked my post so much it submits them twice!

Jonnyclueless
5th December 2008, 01:22 PM
Perhaps Leary is a conspiracy theorist after all. Is he suggesting that parents and doctors are conspiring together to come up with all these autism diagnoses?

No, he isn't. And it's pretty clearly explained in his book. He isn't referring to doctors coming up with the diagnosis either. He is referring to cases of misdiagnosis by parents.

Again, the people who make this claim obviously didn't bother to read the book and only read the out of context quote in the NYT who didn't read it.

Mr.Herbert
5th December 2008, 02:32 PM
Leary didn't say a single horrible thing about Autistic children in his book, people just didn't bother to read it. If they had, they would have read the part where he explains that he is talking about parents who just assume their kids have autism when the child doesn't actually have it. It's in the following paragraph below the one that everyone decided to cherry pick.

Hi Johnny..

There was more than one paragraph where he insults the children who suffer from Autism:

“There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can’t compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . to help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons.”
I don’t give a (expletive) what these crackerjack whackjobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He’s just stupid. Or lazy. Or both.” “Autism is up and who knows why - parents who wasted time, their brain cells and a lot of healthy DNA on way too many recreational drugs is this doctor’s guess.”
‘People with Asperger’s (syndrome) are not usually withdrawn around others - they simply approach others by engaging in a one-sided, long-winded speech about one of their favorite topics.
“Where I come from, we don’t call a guy like that a victim of Asperger’s. We just call him an Expletive Who Won’t Shut The Expletive Up.”
“I think the parents don’t wanna face the cold hard facts that their joining of the loins have produced a semi-retard with a nervous twitch so they jump on any available train - in this case the autism express - and blame good old Mother Nature. And of course they find a doctor more than willing to tell them what they want to hear for close to seven hundred dollars an hour . . .”


I looked for the paragraph that preceded this and was unable to. (i didn't try very hard)


Anyway, this is what Denis does. It's part of his shtick. I just think it was a wee bit distasteful. I still think the man is funny.

Jonnyclueless
5th December 2008, 08:28 PM
yes, but you left out the following paragraph where he explains what he means. Isn't that a bit unfair? He doesn't say that autism doesn't exist or that all cases of autism are fake. He says there is a boom in cases because of all the fraudulent ones. Some people are falsely classifying their kids as being autistic when they are not. This does not refer to actual cases of autism. He even goes on to mention that he knows many friends with kids who have actual autism.

"I not only support the current rational approaches to the diagnoses and treatment of real autism but have witnessed it firsthand while watching very dear old friends raise a functioning autistic child"

"The point of the chapter is not that autism doesn't exist—it obviously does—and I have nothing but admiration and respect for parents dealing with the issue, including the ones I know.The bulk of the chapter deals with grown men who are either self-diagnosing themselves with low-level offshoots of the disease or wishing they could as a way to explain their failed careers and troublesome progeny."

Alt+F4
6th December 2008, 09:52 AM
He says there is a boom in cases because of all the fraudulent ones. Some people are falsely classifying their kids as being autistic when they are not.

Which fraudulent ones? Why does Mr. Leary think there is widespread fraud when it comes to an autism diagnosis? How does someone "classify" their child as having autism? Isn't that something a doctor does? Yup, sounds suspicious to me.

Tbone
7th December 2008, 07:52 PM
There was more than one paragraph where he insults the children who suffer from Autism:


“There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can’t compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . to help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons.”
I don’t give a (expletive) what these crackerjack whackjobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He’s just stupid. Or lazy. Or both.” “Autism is up and who knows why - parents who wasted time, their brain cells and a lot of healthy DNA on way too many recreational drugs is this doctor’s guess.”
‘People with Asperger’s (syndrome) are not usually withdrawn around others - they simply approach others by engaging in a one-sided, long-winded speech about one of their favorite topics.
“Where I come from, we don’t call a guy like that a victim of Asperger’s. We just call him an Expletive Who Won’t Shut The Expletive Up.”
“I think the parents don’t wanna face the cold hard facts that their joining of the loins have produced a semi-retard with a nervous twitch so they jump on any available train - in this case the autism express - and blame good old Mother Nature. And of course they find a doctor more than willing to tell them what they want to hear for close to seven hundred dollars an hour . . .”

Could you point out where he is insulting Autistic children here? Going from your bolded statements , I see him calling some children dumb and lazy (which some are) and I see him saying that some parents just don't want to face that their child(ren) aren't as smart as they hoped they would be (which some do).

I don't see him insulting Autistic children anywhere.

VespaGuy
7th December 2008, 08:02 PM
==Derail==
BTW, I live to the west of Worcester. Here, it is pronounced more like "wuh-ster." People who live to the east of Worcester seem to pronounce it "woo-stah," but that is because they hate the letter "r" and leave it off of everything. Where I live, we actually add extra "r"s, since we like them so much...thus soda may be pronouced "so-der."

I have no idea how people who actually live in Worcester pronounce it...but they are irrelevant.
==End Derail==

=More derail=

Southeastern Mass here. We don't hate the letter "r". We just save up all the "r"s we leave off of words like "car" and "park", and add them where they're really needed - at the ends of words like "soda" (so-der) and "idea" (i-dee-er). I think if you average it out, we use the correct amount of "r"s, we just put them where we damn well please.

=End Derail=

stateofgrace
7th December 2008, 08:05 PM
Could you point out where he is insulting Autistic children here? Going from your bolded statements , I see him calling some children dumb and lazy (which some are) and I see him saying that some parents just don't want to face that their child(ren) aren't as smart as they hoped they would be (which some do).

I don't see him insulting Autistic children anywhere.

Sure, as a father of two children who have be diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome I will point out exactly what is offensive and insulting.

He’s just stupid. Or lazy. Or both.”

they simply approach others by engaging in a one-sided, long-winded speech about one of their favorite topics.


have produced a semi-retard with a nervous twitch

You cannot see the insult?

Then tell me how my children are not clinically diagnosed with a disorder but are in fact stupid, lazy, long winded, semi retards.

Care to do that?

Care to tell me, my wife and all the highly qualified specialists in their respective fields, who have spent countless hours helping us cope with this, how we have got it all wrong?

Pray tell how I am supossed to laugh about this and not feel utterly digusted.

Jonnyclueless
7th December 2008, 09:40 PM
But he isn't telling you your children are not clinically diagnosed with a disorder. That's the whole issue. He isn't talking about clinically diagnosed cases. And he states that quite clearly.

He is referring instead to stupid or lazy children and parents of lazy children who try to excuse it as autism.

Jonnyclueless
7th December 2008, 09:43 PM
Which fraudulent ones? Why does Mr. Leary think there is widespread fraud when it comes to an autism diagnosis? How does someone "classify" their child as having autism? Isn't that something a doctor does? Yup, sounds suspicious to me.

"rational approaches to the diagnoses and treatment of real autism"

I would say from his book, the classification is done by doctors using proper diagnosis procedures. yes, it's something a doctor does, and that's his point.

JoeyDonuts
8th December 2008, 12:29 AM
I still think the man is funny.

coffee...flavored...COFFEE!!!!!

Dave Rogers
8th December 2008, 04:42 AM
I haven't read the book, but I saw Leary on Jon Stewart's Daily Show. I suspect the truth is somewhere in between the two extremes. Clearly he admits that there is such a thing as autism, but I think his definition is a little narrow. The comment I would take exception to is:

‘People with Asperger’s (syndrome) are not usually withdrawn around others - they simply approach others by engaging in a one-sided, long-winded speech about one of their favorite topics.
“Where I come from, we don’t call a guy like that a victim of Asperger’s. We just call him an Expletive Who Won’t Shut The Expletive Up.”

The first sentence is a very accurate description of one of the biggest problems people with Asperger's syndrome and high functioning autism face in trying to interact socially. The second and third are a very good explanation of why it's a problem. By endorsing the opinion in the second and third sentence, Leary appears to be demonstrating unwittingly that he's part of the problem rather than part of the solution, however much he may try to understand his friends' difficulties with their children who suffer from autism.

Overall, though, it's not significant. We parents of children with autism see these attitutes all the time, even in those who try to support us. They can't help it, they've never seen our world from the inside and to some extent we don't want them to. We thank them for the lip service they pay to supporting us, because it's better than nothing, but when we really need help we turn to the ones who really do understand. Most of the time, that's each other.

Dave

Tweeter
8th December 2008, 07:22 AM
Dennis is an a-hole!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjqyTD6GM0

Ausmerican
8th December 2008, 07:41 AM
I can't believe I'm defending Bill here but...

He meant that Charlie talking about 9/11 was an inside job would cause people to disassociate him because being a 9/11 denier is basically telling everyone "I'm an idiot"

How the hell could Bill have any sort of impact on Charlie's career?

It is not a matter of IF Billo could have any sort of impact on Sheens career. This is Billo after all. It is a matter of if Billo THINKS he could have an impact. After all look at the tremendous amount of damage he THINKS he did to France.