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Alferd_Packer
4th December 2008, 07:48 PM
Barack Obama's real birth certificate was in the FBI office in WTC 7 the morning of 9/11.

Bill Ayers set the charges.

RKOwens4
4th December 2008, 08:50 PM
Truthers feel a need to demonize Barack Obama. They need to base their beliefs and motivation out of fear of the New World Order, which is hard to do with Barack Obama as president, someone who is beloved around the world.

I'm seeing it already on YouTube.

Brainster
4th December 2008, 09:16 PM
Truthers feel a need to demonize Barack Obama. They need to base their beliefs and motivation out of fear of the New World Order, which is hard to do with Barack Obama as president, someone who is beloved around the world.

Barry Soetero you mean?

;)

I opposed him in the election but I'm more than willing to give him a chance to prove me wrong, and yes, the conspiracy theories about him are nuts.

I suspect that the left-wing 9-11 Troofers are dying up rapidly and all that will remain are the Alex Jones-type survivalists.

ETA: And Bernardine set the bombs.

Walter Ego
5th December 2008, 10:34 AM
Truthers feel a need to demonize Barack Obama. They need to base their beliefs and motivation out of fear of the New World Order, which is hard to do with Barack Obama as president, someone who is beloved around the world.

A lefty columnist from a Seattle weekly made a good point about Obama’s election victory.

If 9/11 was a vast plot to take over America and steal our civil liberties & etc. & etc: How the **** did Obama win? If you're going to tell me that Obama is the same as Bush, you're totally ***** hopeless. I know he's not the perfect Truth-approved American hero candidate that Ron Paul is, but his plans to leave Iraq, shut down Guantanamo, and stop all kinds of illegal things that the government has been doing is certainly not a step forward for the Evil Twin-Tower-Bombing Conspiracy. The only argument I've seen thus far has to do with Obama pushing toward globalization. This is weak sauce. History has officially rolled over the 9/11 Movement.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/12/03/reading_tonight

I'm sure the truthers will have an semi-plausible (to them) explanation about how Obama was "allowed" to win, however. :(

twinstead
5th December 2008, 10:55 AM
Bush still has time to seize control of the government and declare himself president for life. Wake up people!!

Crazytimes
5th December 2008, 02:20 PM
Check this out. More fuel to the fire.

http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135

ktesibios
5th December 2008, 02:48 PM
Check this out. More fuel to the fire.

http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135

Not really. Just more proof (as if we needed it) that our society is infested with idiots who think that they're entitled to make up and endless series of hoops and demand that they be jumped through.

"Doesn't list the doctor or hospital" my flaming lips. My own certified copy of my New Jersey birth certificate, obtained in 1999 when I moved to California, doesn't list any of those things either. It merely states that I was born in Union County NJ.

I guess that means that I can't be President either. However, the state of California accepted it as "proof of legal presence", i.e., proof that I am a citizen (or resident alien, but that's a different bit of paperwork) and consequently legally entitled to be here.

Have you thought at all about why it should be that the very well-connected and well-funded candidates whom Obama defeated in winning the Democratic nomination and then the Presidency never even thought to raise the issue, super-potent weapon though it would be- in a political era where "opposition research", i.e., trying to dig up any dirt at all to throw at an opponent, is a routine part of campaigning? Or why the only people making these claims bear all the hallmarks of cranks and NetLoons?

Crazytimes
5th December 2008, 02:55 PM
Not really. Just more proof (as if we needed it) that our society is infested with idiots who think that they're entitled to make up and endless series of hoops and demand that they be jumped through.

"Doesn't list the doctor or hospital" my flaming lips. My own certified copy of my New Jersey birth certificate, obtained in 1999 when I moved to California, doesn't list any of those things either. It merely states that I was born in Union County NJ.

I guess that means that I can't be President either. However, the state of California accepted it as "proof of legal presence", i.e., proof that I am a citizen (or resident alien, but that's a different bit of paperwork) and consequently legally entitled to be here.

Have you thought at all about why it should be that the very well-connected and well-funded candidates whom Obama defeated in winning the Democratic nomination and then the Presidency never even thought to raise the issue, super-potent weapon though it would be- in a political era where "opposition research", i.e., trying to dig up any dirt at all to throw at an opponent, is a routine part of campaigning? Or why the only people making these claims bear all the hallmarks of cranks and NetLoons?

The crazies (at least one I know) think that McCain had similar issues because he was born on a military base in Panama. They think an agreement was made to not going after each others citizenship.

beachnut
5th December 2008, 04:52 PM
The crazies (at least one I know) think that McCain had similar issues because he was born on a military base in Panama. They think an agreement was made to not going after each others citizenship.
McCain was a military brat, like my brats born in Okinawa, they can become president. Not an issue. The bs web sites spewing idiot ideas on Obama are as bad or worse than 9/11 truth! The Obama idea in the OP was joke on 9/11 truth, not a fact; a joke.

But you know that.

eromitlab
6th December 2008, 01:20 AM
Don't forget Zbigniew Brzezinski. I've seen a few tinfoilers endlessly repeat claims that Obama is Zbigniew's puppet, and some that even claim Zbigniew has been grooming Obama as his legislative puppet since around the time Brzezinski "founded al-Qaeda". Zbigniew had to have been involved somehow.

Alferd_Packer
6th December 2008, 08:49 AM
Zbigniew Brzezinski? What about Bebe Rebozo?