Keith Wheelhouse to CIT "Craig you need help"

[Bobert]

YET ANOTHER CIT witness basically telling the CIT to go pound sand.
I cant comprehend why Aldo would post this on a public forum?
Does Aldo think that this makes them look good?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/936873/1/
This from an email which Keith apparently sent to Craig:

You guys need to come clean and stop the charade. Being x-military I was their and know exactly what I saw. It is a shame that there are people of your caliber that want to try to put a spin on what happened. I do not care whether you believe me or not. Have the people who contradict my story call me. You have my cell and ok to release it. There are 52 additional photo’s to collaborate my story. From your video you do not believe an AA jet hit the pentagon. You had doubts that I was even their. Please have the pilot’s witnesses or who ever wants to contest it call. Best wishes in your search.

Craig you need help

Keith D. Wheelhouse


Then Aldo basically starts to send him emails harrasing him
There is really nothing more to discuss unless you want to confess, Kieth. We now believe there was a "second plane" cover story employed utilizing ambiguity to cover up for the attack jet flying away. Your role in this mess was accurately predicted. We know the plane did not hit the building, Kieth. We know it was a flyover/flyaway. We have witnesses who prove this.

The question is, did you see the flyover and were coerced/prompted to say that the plane you saw flying away was a C-130 or are you a complicit operative put out there to help sow the confusion of the "second" plane story which, partly thanks to you, slowly is eventually confirmed as a C-130. We prefer to believe you are innocent and were coerced to lie.

Either way, things will work out better for you if you are honest. The video proves you are not telling the truth, Keith.

Citizen Investigation Team
LOL "confess"?
These guys are sick.

[UNLoVedRebel]

Any publicity is good publicity, especially when your "movement" is in the gutter. Having your own eyewitnesses call you sick is a "great success."

[Bobert]

I guess I am glad he does it because those just dipping their toes into the CIT must think they are crazy.

[UNLoVedRebel]

They'll be chiming in here shortly, I don't know why though. It'd be best for them to give up and start another project. This one's been a failed effort.

[UNLoVedRebel]

Anyone who starts an "investigation" on this premise should have his mental health checked.

*Special note: Many detractors to the information we present suggest we are wrong because the witnesses at the CITGO station believe the plane hit the building. This is what true critical thinkers call circular logic. We claim the fact that the witnesses place the plane on the north side of the station proves it was used as an instrument of deception during a perfectly timed military sleight of hand illusion because it is impossible for a plane in that location to have created the physical damage. In other words, the intended goal was to fool witnesses into believing the plane hit the building. The fact that the witnesses were successfully deceived exactly as the perpetrators intended does not prove that they are incorrect in their placement of the plane. Quite the opposite is true. Their placement of the plane proves that they were deceived in regards to the impact.

I think I speak for everyone when I 'say'....

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[MarkyX]

Anyone who starts an "investigation" on this premise should have his mental health checked.



I think I speak for everyone when I 'say'....

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg

Let me get this straight..

They start an "investigation" with a conclusion that the plane flew over the Pentagon. There is no evidence of this whatsoever and this is the first theory they made up.

In other words, this is something they completely made up.

Then they try to find witnesses who don't "follow" the "official flight path", aka North of Citgo, as PROOF that there was deception going on. It doesn't matter if they believed the plane flew over or into the Pentagon, it's proof that their alternative flyover 'theory' is correct.

How the hell did these guys NOT get aborted?

[UNLoVedRebel]

In other words, this is something they completely made up.



No, these guys are too dumb to come up with their own "conclusion." This BS sort of "evolved" from Dick Eastman and other 9/11 deniers. Maybe Caustic Logic will chime in and give us the full details. He's been MIA for a while.

[JohnG]

LOL "confess"? These guys are sick.

Confess! Confess! Confess!

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No one expects the Citizen Investigation Team.

[16.5]

Gee, I had stopped hearing about these frauds quite a while ago.

Until these mutts come up with the math to support their lies, they are not worth out time.

[bje]

How the hell did these guys NOT get aborted?

It seems like Keith Wheelhouse has a good libel case against Craig and Aldo.

[Bobert]

It seems the meds arent working.

[Alt+F4]

It seems like Keith Wheelhouse has a good libel case against Craig and Aldo.

At the very least...

We know you aren't to blame for a deception on this level Keith. But things will work out a lot better for you if you come clean. Work with us.

(bolding mine)

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Sounds threatening to me.

[Bobert]

That really is par-for-the-course for Aldo.
He makes what appear to be threatening statements but then turns around and insists that they arent threats.
He thrives on negative attention.

[1337m4n]

Now, what was it that I mentioned on my "Cult Characteristics" thread?

[1337m4n]

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=163883&t=936873

See, I'll let you know anyway.......as soon as you said anything just REMOTELY close to supporting that man, Wheelhouse........you've pretty much black listed yourself.

I request a translation from Twoofspeak to English.

[16.5]

That really is par-for-the-course for Aldo.
He makes what appear to be threatening statements but then turns around and insists that they arent threats.
He thrives on negative attention.

Well, lets not kid ourselves:

Aldo is dumb.

I'd like to say we were lucky that the CIT has such a loathesome individual associated with it, but then I recall that anyone with a functioning intellect would have dropped their fantasy long ago.

Oh well, as /b/ says, more lulz for us.

[Bobert]

Yes that is FOR SURE that the CIT provides lots of laughs.
Its a shame that they dont get that most people are laughing AT THEM and not WITH THEM.

[Drudgewire]

Out of everyone in the twoof movement, nobody deserves a Buzz Aldrin moment more than the CIT retard brigade.

[A W Smith]

Out of everyone in the twoof movement, nobody deserves a Buzz Aldrin moment more than the CIT retard brigade.


yeah, too bad Lloyd isn't 35 years younger and built like George Forman

[dtugg]

I would pay money to see those stupid frauds punched in the face ala Aldrin vs. Sibrel.

[applecorped]

YET ANOTHER CIT witness basically telling the CIT to go pound sand.
I cant comprehend why Aldo would post this on a public forum?
Does Aldo think that this makes them look good?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/936873/1/
This from an email which Keith apparently sent to Craig:


Then Aldo basically starts to send him emails harrasing him

LOL "confess"?
These guys are sick.

Vee haff vays to make you talk!

[UNLoVedRebel]

Bittermanhttp://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=163883&t=936873

See, I'll let you know anyway.......as soon as you said anything just REMOTELY close to supporting that man, Wheelhouse........you've pretty much black listed yourself.

I request a translation from Twoofspeak to English.

I'm not fluent in Twoofspeak, so my translation might be a little off. I think he's saying, "I have no evidence, or even an imagination, so I'm giong to accuse you of mass murder."

[911files]

They have a thread going over at ATS along similar lines and of course CIT is being CIT. I decided to give the forums a try again last week, but after numerous exchanges regarding the Doubletree video on one thread, I learned quickly that rational thought is sorely lacking in the discussion so I am giving it up.

I have been communicating with a number of individuals who post here on a few items and there does seem to be a significant amount of talent among the JREF members. So perhaps there is good thought-provoking and constructive interaction to be had here. I just can't deal with no-win irrational (and heavily debunked) tit-for-tat silliness which is CIT and P4T. So I look forward to a constructive and mutually rewarding relationship here at JREF.

Data has been coming in fast and furious the past few months and this looks like a good a place to share it with serious minded people who genuinely want to know. But if one more person tells me the cuckoo flew over the cuckoo nest, then I might go cuckoo myself :yikes:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I would pay money to see those stupid frauds punched in the face ala Aldrin vs. Sibrel.


Heh. I'm sure Craig and Aldo would be more than willing to sell the video to you.

[A W Smith]

They have a thread going over at ATS along similar lines and of course CIT is being CIT. I decided to give the forums a try again last week, but after numerous exchanges regarding the Doubletree video on one thread, I learned quickly that rational thought is sorely lacking in the discussion so I am giving it up.

I have been communicating with a number of individuals who post here on a few items and there does seem to be a significant amount of talent among the JREF members. So perhaps there is good thought-provoking and constructive interaction to be had here. I just can't deal with no-win irrational (and heavily debunked) tit-for-tat silliness which is CIT and P4T. So I look forward to a constructive and mutually rewarding relationship here at JREF.

Data has been coming in fast and furious the past few months and this looks like a good a place to share it with serious minded people who genuinely want to know. But if one more person tells me the cuckoo flew over the cuckoo nest, then I might go cuckoo myself :yikes:

welcome to the JREF 911files, i threw a few posts over there at ATS. one guy put me on ignore after I showed Jones to be a liar who doctored and re-captioned photos,

[JoeyDonuts]

Heh. I'm sure Craig and Aldo would be more than willing to sell the video to you.

And therein, they say, lies the rub. :D

I would like to take this moment to nominate both of them for the 1st Annual Jack Van Impe Pompous Bastard Award.

http://improbable.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/VanImpe_200w.jpg

[UNLoVedRebel]

They have a thread going over at ATS along similar lines and of course CIT is being CIT. I decided to give the forums a try again last week, but after numerous exchanges regarding the Doubletree video on one thread, I learned quickly that rational thought is sorely lacking in the discussion so I am giving it up.

I have been communicating with a number of individuals who post here on a few items and there does seem to be a significant amount of talent among the JREF members. So perhaps there is good thought-provoking and constructive interaction to be had here. I just can't deal with no-win irrational (and heavily debunked) tit-for-tat silliness which is CIT and P4T. So I look forward to a constructive and mutually rewarding relationship here at JREF.

Data has been coming in fast and furious the past few months and this looks like a good a place to share it with serious minded people who genuinely want to know. But if one more person tells me the cuckoo flew over the cuckoo nest, then I might go cuckoo myself :yikes:

We have our good days and we have our bad days. Note. ULTIMA1 (whom you mention on your site) is suspended for another week. He is 911 Truth's troller extraordinaire. So enjoy the peace while it lasts. Turbofan (Tino from pfffft) has been on a troll-spree lately. It seems he's trying to make up for ULTIMA's absence. To be fair, TheLoneBedroom (CIT) is usually on his best behavior. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the JREF and its posters, but there's been some great threads. Gravy is compiling a list of the best, should be up shortly. It'll be the Internet's one stop shop for all your debunking needs.

[orphia nay]

Let me add my welcome to you, 911files.

:welcome4

[Mangoose]

Data has been coming in fast and furious the past few months and this looks like a good a place to share it with serious minded people who genuinely want to know.


Glad to have you on board. You've done some truly stunning work in the past year on your site, looking forward to seeing your posts in the forum.

[911files]

Thanks ya'll...yer making me blush :blush:

[Jonnyclueless]

Ah, the 2 stooges. Moe and Curly....

[greyleonard]

Yes, welcome to the forums!

Speaking of your site, if you wouldn't be averse to a left-winger supplying an improved (more easily legible) header graphic, my offer is on the table.

[911files]

Yes, welcome to the forums!

Speaking of your site, if you wouldn't be averse to a left-winger supplying an improved (more easily legible) header graphic, my offer is on the table.

Absolutely, anything you come up with should be an improvement! Graphics ain't my thang.

[greyleonard]

Absolutely, anything you come up with should be an improvement! Graphics ain't my thang.

Cool, I'll handle the rest through PMs. :)

[Horatius]

yeah, too bad Lloyd isn't 35 years younger and built like George Forman

I would pay money to see those stupid frauds punched in the face ala Aldrin vs. Sibrel.



Well, George has been whoring himself out for years now.....







Just sayin'......

[Mr.D]

It seems like Keith Wheelhouse has a good libel case against Craig and Aldo.

Or at least a restraining order ...

[BenBurch]

It seems like Keith Wheelhouse has a good libel case against Craig and Aldo.

As the laws are, its tough to ever win one of those, or there are a few people I would have sued by now.

[Drudgewire]

As the laws are, its tough to ever win one of those, or there are a few people I would have sued by now.


I would think that it would even be harder in the electronic age. Journalism law was one of my best college courses but that was way back in the early 90s. Although there are different standards applied to "public figures" vs. "private citizens," I'd think it would be very difficult to define which one applies to someone who had made their views public online.

That is to say, as far as it relates to an internet community, the argument could be made the person claiming libel could be defined as a voluntary "public figure" simply by taking part.

In other words, yeah it's probably going to be a lot less of a headache to even try... or to speculate on for that matter. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/psyduck.gif