"Mythbusters to air mega hitpiece on 9/11 truth"

[Orphia Nay]

http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blog/2008/12/mythbusters-to-air-mega-hitpiece-on-911-truth/

The MythBusters have finally given in to the pressure the producers have been under for several years. The show asks the viewers to send their favorite myth in via the internet for the show to consider. Upon receiving their 1 millionth request dealing with the various September 11th theories, the producers finally cracked…

The 2 hour special slated for an unreleased date in 2009 and will be titled WORLD TRADE CENTER. The program will feature the top 2 most requested WTC theories, controlled demolition and CGI planes - more commonly known as TV fakery. The show will also feature a 20 minute tribute to the Pentagon missile theory conducted by Kari Byron, Grant Imahara, and Tory Belleci. Meanwhile, the stars of the show Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman will be putting their reputation on the line with the WTC experiments.

The show will feature a 1/3 scale replica of the towers at an estimated $7.2 million price tag. The replica is rumored to have been built outside of the United States to avoid airspace restrictions that they would have encountered at home. The location of the replica towers has remained a secret from the press as gag orders were imposed on the private contractors. The total cost of the production has reportedly amounted to a whopping $25 million, which the Discovery Channel believes it will reclaim by selling Super Bowl priced ads during the 2 hour event.

[snip]



LiMMjVmbsWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiMMjVmbsWk

[TheWeirdSkeptic]

Mythbusters are going to be added to the evil NWO after this.

[JohnG]

I can't wait, though I can't quite imagine how they'll approach this subject in terms of their usual goofy humor. The only real humor to be mined from it is in the wackiness of the CTs they'll be debunking.

[Orphia Nay]

Mythbusters are going to be added to the evil NWO after this.

:newlol

Yep.

This should be hilarious!

[Orphia Nay]

I can't wait, though I can't quite imagine how they'll approach this subject in terms of their usual goofy humor. The only real humor to be mined from it is in the wackiness of the CTs they'll be debunking.

Which is the sort of humour only the laughing dog can depict:

:dl:

[WildCat]

The show will feature a 1/3 scale replica of the towers at an estimated $7.2 million price tag. The replica is rumored to have been built outside of the United States to avoid airspace restrictions that they would have encountered at home. The location of the replica towers has remained a secret from the press as gag orders were imposed on the private contractors. The total cost of the production has reportedly amounted to a whopping $25 million, which the Discovery Channel believes it will reclaim by selling Super Bowl priced ads during the 2 hour event.
I'm having a hard time believing this, particularly the "Super Bowl priced ads" part. Smells like a hoax to me.

[UNLoVedRebel]

I'm having a hard time believing this, particularly the "Super Bowl priced ads" part.

Me too. Especially with the poor editing job done by splicing 9/11 footage in with the myth busters. I call BS.

[carlvs]

Great... Now give me a link to an OFFICIAL press release and I just might believe it!

(Not that I am against the idea of the show, but I'm very suspicious about the sums of money mentioned here...)

[Orphia Nay]

Hmmm, good point.

I did find the article posted at a twoofy forum.

At the Mythbusters forum there is a message saying:

Please refrain from posting any show ideas that are 9/11 related. These are inappropriate because they are emotionally charged and cause discord among the members of the board.

This includes but is not limited to -

Planes crashing into buildings
Jet fuel melting steel beams
Cell communication on an air plane.

Again these are EXAMPLES and NOT INCLUSIVE of the ideas extrapolated from conspiracy theories. These topics are not going to be tested on the show.

Thank you for your cooperation on this subject.

MythMod

[Magenta]

Me too. Especially with the poor editing job done by splicing 9/11 footage in with the myth busters. I call BS.


Some of the footage looked familiar from the "plane on a conveyor belt" episode. Hardly relevant to 9/11.

[JohnG]

Oh, man. I hope it's not a hoax. Then again, I am very gullible... at least that's what the cashier at McDonalds told me.

[AJM8125]

I have to call BS too.

If the Mythbusters were to do something like this, it would call for at least three sets of WTC Tower replicas: one control, on aircraft impact model and one CD model. The models would have to have the same floor plans as the originals, would have to be filled with furniture, office supplies, automobiles, in short everything that was found in the WTC on September 11th would need to be replicated. Secondly, 1/3 scale aircraft would have to be flown into the models to make an accurate test.

The cost of this is way out of the price range for most major motion picture studios. To give you an estimate, one building I recently worked in was sold in 2006 for $148,000,000. It's a 36 story building, roughly the third of the size of a WTC tower.

[R.Mackey]

Let me just point out that building a 1/3 scale model of a WTC Tower, using accurate methods and materials, would be absurdly expensive. At 21m x 21m x 139m, and a total of 16,000 m2, even a single Tower would be comparable to (and much taller than) than the real-life, frequently discussed Windsor Madrid. No way this can be done on a $7M budget without cutting all kinds of corners.

Some tests can be done in scale (Dr. Quintiere, in particular, has done one) but it's much trickier than it looks.

[Orphia Nay]

More good points.

I can only find 3 sites that are pushing this mega-hit-piece story other than the one in the OP, and they are all dubious or twoofy.

http://www.mtl911truth.org/?p=821

http://forums.gumtree.com/post-2947560.html

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/12/mythbusters-to-take-on-911.html

All of them quote the story in the OP.

I call BS. It would be very odd for a CT site to get something this big right.

[CFLarsen]

The show will feature a 1/3 scale replica of the towers at an estimated $7.2 million price tag.

A 1/3 scale replica would mean building something like this:

21 m x 21 m x 139 m

Times 2.

[greyleonard]

I forgive you for posting this.

[Orphia Nay]

I forgive you for posting this.

Oops, I didn't say sorry.

Sorry. :(

In my defence, I did put quotation marks around the title. :boggled:

[Quad4_72]

If they did do a show, why in the hell would they include tv fakery? That is extremely easy to debunk and even stupider than controlled demolition.

[AJM8125]

Oops, I didn't say sorry.

Sorry. :(

In my defence, I did put quotation marks around the title. :boggled:


No defense required.

:hug6

[greyleonard]

Oops, I didn't say sorry.

Sorry. :(

In my defence, I did put quotation marks around the title. :boggled:

Hey, no sweat at all. http://www.randi.org/forumlive/images/icons/icon7.gif

You provided a great example of how someone can change their mind about something they read at a truther site. If only more were like you...

[Orphia Nay]

No defense required.

:hug6

Thanks very much. :o :)

[Whiplash]

The sad fact was, even if someone was willing to lay down 25million+ dollars to do this, the results would be /handwaved by diehard believers anyhow. It would be an enormous waste of money and resources.

[Arus808]

total bogus article.

1) they wouldn't spend that kind of money, to debunk a theory (any theory)
2) discovery knows they wouldn't earn back money on super bowl ads seeing that an ad would COST them $25 million to do.

[Orphia Nay]

I posted a message about the article in the OP to the Mythbusters forum in the "Mythbusters in the News" thread (http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9801967776/m/1201953749/p/), but received this message:



Request Processed

Thank you for contributing to this forum. Unfortunately, your post will not be displayed until after it is approved by community administrators, because one or more trigger words were used in your post.
If and when the community administrators approve your post, it will appear in the forum.


I'd like to know their opinion on this story.

ETA: I see Arus got a post through about the OP in the same forum. Cheers, Arus!

[Arus808]

Here Orphia:
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=6941912904&f=9801967776&m=7081978499&r=7081978499#7081978499

Long time member/ actually a lurker there. and its been reiterated too many times, they will NEVER EVER do any show concerning conpsiracy theories for 9/11

[AJM8125]

and its been reiterated too many times, they will NEVER EVER do any show concerning conpsiracy theories for 9/11

Which is a shame, because something like a Popular Mechanics style debunking from the Mythbusters is something I've been hoping they'd do. Maybe they're working on ways around directly debunking the CTs, as evident in the recent "thermite Vs SUV" episode.

[CptColumbo]

IIRC they go to thrift stores to buy second-hand toasters for some of their projects. Now they suddenly travel to another country and spend $7.2 million.

I think the Moon myths episode made the "twoofers" jealous, even though it proved the myths to be myths.

[Walter Ego]

http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blog/2008/12/mythbusters-to-air-mega-hitpiece-on-911-truth/


Troofer pipe dream. Don't Bogart the bong. :D

[TheWeirdSkeptic]

Oops, I didn't say sorry.

Sorry. :(

In my defence, I did put quotation marks around the title. :boggled:

When I saw the video I had my doubts but decided not to say anything, but it was interesting even if it isn't true.

[Thunder]

what a huge waste of money. dont they realize that NOTHING can convince the truthers that they are wrong?

i feel bad for these guys.

[Quad4_72]

what a huge waste of money. dont they realize that NOTHING can convince the truthers that they are wrong?

i feel bad for these guys.

Yes I am pretty sure they are well aware that nothing would convince the crazed lunatics. Did you read the thread?

[Travis]

They were adamant they would never do the moon landing stuff and finally they relented and did that so I wouldn't be surprised if they do one day do stuff on 9/11. However it wouldn't be on the scale of what was presented here. It sure would be a sight to see though. I can just picture Jaime out there directing tower cranes hoisting up steel for the "mini twins" and Adam screwing around with the iron workers that are putting it together.

But a $25 million Mythbusters episode????? In my dreams.

[1337m4n]

But just think of all the EXPLOSIONS they could do...

[A W Smith]

I doubt this very much. There are too few left in the conspiracy movement for them to have any reason to produce such a program. For the general public who aren't even aware of the conspiracy movement, if they saw this on TV they would think. WTF? Why are they doing this? The premise is nonsense to begin with. and turn the channel.

and no they are not building a "scale model' as i am certain the staff know the effects are not scalable. They didn't get a "millionth request" maybe low hundreds tops. (excluding repeat requests from the same adamant truthers) although they may have received a request from a brazilian (http://bp1.blogger.com/_tHyVWN_FhI0/Rs4GFxE6ZzI/AAAAAAAAACo/zPHyuf5oNRM/s1600-h/ThreeBrazilianSoldiers(Confidential)..jpg).

[Thunder]

i think it would cost easily $50 million to build an exact 1/3 model of the wtc. i doubt they would make such an investment.

[CptColumbo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 1/3 scale model of the WTC (not counting the spire) be 456 ft? Taller than 3 Statue of Liberties (151ft each).

[Cl1mh4224rd]

If they did do a show, why in the hell would they include tv fakery?


Good point. Even the "regular" kooks think the "TV fakery" kooks are insane... or disinfo. Also, have any of their experiments involved expertise in video editing? Does anyone on that team* have those skills?

-----
* And by that I mean the faces in front of the camera, not behind it. Sorry, folks. ;)

[Whiplash]

i think it would cost easily $50 million to build an exact 1/3 model of the wtc. i doubt they would make such an investment.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 1/3 scale model of the WTC (not counting the spire) be 456 ft? Taller than 3 Statue of Liberties (151ft each).


It just goes to show this is just a fantasy from some truther, using typical truther math and "common sense". Completely pulling numbers out of their arse and not even doing simple math and calculations or reasonable cost estimates.

[RKOwens4]

http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blog/2008/12/mythbusters-to-air-mega-hitpiece-on-911-truth/



LiMMjVmbsWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiMMjVmbsWk

I wish this were true, but it just seems too much like a hoax. A 1/3rd scale model of the Twin Towers, at $7.2 million??? The original Twin Towers cost, I believe, about $300 million, which in today's money would be well over a billion dollars (still a bargain, considering just the one Freedom Tower is at a cost of over $3 billion). A 1/3rd scale model would be, at LEAST, in the hundreds of millions of dollars, perhaps over a billion. The towers would also be well over 400 feet tall.

Also, the part where they say they're building the towers in secret in another country just SCREAMS BS. And it took nearly a decade to build the original towers, yet this article makes it sound like it's just something they're assembling together in a few months. One more thing, even if they were going to do this experiment, they probably wouldn't construct the entire towers, just the impacted sections where the fires were and perhaps the floors above. There are just too many things about this article that screams BS.

[CptColumbo]

Just to beat the already dead horse:

Why would anyone invest that much money in two buildings that large whose sole purpose is to be knocked down?

[Thunder]

Silverstein did it. =)

[steve s]

...and no they are not building a "scale model' as i am certain the staff know the effects are not scalable.

Ditto. Any model is going to be disproportionately stronger than a full size building, which is why it's so ridiculous to see Gage drop a cardboard box onto another one and expect it all to collapse.

If they ever do put it to the test, they'll do something like using an air cannon to fire a piece of aluminum through a steel plate to silence the nuts who think the planes should have bounced off the towers.

Steve S.

[Drudgewire]

I call BS. It would be very odd for a CT site to get something this big right.

So we can hereby declare this myth "BUSTED" then?

;)

[A W Smith]

Ditto. Any model is going to be disproportionately stronger than a full size building, which is why it's so ridiculous to see Gage drop a cardboard box onto another one and expect it all to collapse.

If they ever do put it to the test, they'll do something like using an air cannon to fire a piece of aluminum through a steel plate to silence the nuts who think the planes should have bounced off the towers.

Steve S.


I wanna see Gage drop a 300 foot cardboard box onto a 1000 foot cardboard box

[ellindsey]

Prediction:

When the non-existent 9-11 Mythbusters special fails to materialize and/or is outright declared to not exist by the Mythbusters, some Truther will claim that the experiment was done, showed the government story impossible, and that the Mythbusters were then forced to cover up the entire thing. This will become a truther meme of "The mythbusters proved the government story impossible" that will then never die.

[Drudgewire]

Prediction:

When the non-existent 9-11 Mythbusters special fails to materialize and/or is outright declared to not exist by the Mythbusters, some Truther will claim that the experiment was done, showed the government story impossible, and that the Mythbusters were then forced to cover up the entire thing. This will become a truther meme of "The mythbusters proved the government story impossible" that will then never die.


It's just incredibly stupid enough to happen.

[Thunder]

I wanna see Gage drop a 300 foot cardboard box onto a 1000 foot cardboard box

that would be awesome!!!!!

[Orphia Nay]

So we can hereby declare this myth "BUSTED" then?

;)

:D


Prediction:

When the non-existent 9-11 Mythbusters special fails to materialize and/or is outright declared to not exist by the Mythbusters, some Truther will claim that the experiment was done, showed the government story impossible, and that the Mythbusters were then forced to cover up the entire thing. This will become a truther meme of "The mythbusters proved the government story impossible" that will then never die.

:D The conspiracy begins! The MB forum hasn't approved my post, and Arus' post has disappeared! Cover-up!

;)


I wanna see Gage drop a 300 foot cardboard box onto a 1000 foot cardboard box


:big:

[Thunder]

The more I think about it, the more I think this is a bunch of bologna. Just another 9-11 denier lie.

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

This one even smelled funny to me and I buy snake oil every weekend at the flea market, LOL! The funny thing is that you know some truthers already sent crazy emails to Myth Busters about how they must be in the CIA, NSA, CENTCOM, etc.....

Nice try though ;)

[Brainache]

The more I think about it, the more I think this is a bunch of bologna. Just another 9-11 denier lie.

Gee thanks Parky. We all fell for it. Lucky we've got you to sort this stuff out for us...:rolleyes:

[Thunder]

Gee thanks Parky. We all fell for it. Lucky we've got you to sort this stuff out for us...:rolleyes:

Um....no problem.

:cool:

[PhantomWolf]

I have seen better fake videos.

[rjh01]

This is an example of somthing I like about this site. Someone posts something that looks too good to be true and someone shows why it is no good.

[fromdownunder]

Prediction:

When the non-existent 9-11 Mythbusters special fails to materialize and/or is outright declared to not exist by the Mythbusters, some Truther will claim that the experiment was done, showed the government story impossible, and that the Mythbusters were then forced to cover up the entire thing. This will become a truther meme of "The mythbusters proved the government story impossible" that will then never die.

And you think that this has not already happened because...? :) :) :)




It'll be a whitewash.

Mythbusters > Discovery Channel > 'Nuff said.

Adam & Jamie might wanna go further but the producers etc will "Tell" them what they'll be addressing.


http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3342

Norm

[RKOwens4]

Prediction:

When the non-existent 9-11 Mythbusters special fails to materialize and/or is outright declared to not exist by the Mythbusters, some Truther will claim that the experiment was done, showed the government story impossible, and that the Mythbusters were then forced to cover up the entire thing. This will become a truther meme of "The mythbusters proved the government story impossible" that will then never die.

Hah! Sadly, I have to agree. They still claim UL tested the steel and that the results contradict the official explanation, so UL now has to say they never tested the steel (even though they DIDN'T test it). It's the exact same thing. :rolleyes:

[dudalb]

The 7.2 Million figure for a model told me right away this was BS. There is no way in hell Mythbusters would ever get a budget like that. There is simply no way the cable network could get it's money back on that.
One of the amusing things about the Twoofers is that they are such incompetent liars. That to work a lie has got to sound feasible is something they have never quite understood.

[Travis]

Just to beat the already dead horse:

Why would anyone invest that much money in two buildings that large whose sole purpose is to be knocked down?

Well for some Truthers even this wouldn't be enough. Remember that they require an exact replica of the towers, all 1300 feet of them, to be built and hit by an actual B767 in order to be convinced.



On another note.......I see my repeated requests for an all Kari bikini myths episode have been ignored!:mad:

[Drudgewire]

One of the amusing things about the Twoofers is that they are such incompetent liars. That to work a lie has got to sound feasible is something they have never quite understood.


You'd think after all these years of researching the evil NWO they would have learned SOMETHING from us by now. ;)

[jhunter1163]

On another note.......I see my repeated requests for an all Kari bikini myths episode have been ignored!:mad:

I'd like to see that too, purely out of academic interest of course.

[CptColumbo]

I'm also curious where the idea that they could get Super Bowl prices for the ads came from. The Super Bowl is able to get the higher prices due to it having high ratings. There have been specials on cable (National Geographic, History and Discovery) that have dealt with 9/11 myths, yet none AFAIK made quite as big a splash to excuse a network for asking more money than usual from sponsors.

If my math is right (estimating that there would be 90 :30 ad slots) they would have to charge over $250,000 per 30 second slot.

[CFLarsen]

A lie doesn't have to sound feasible in order to be believed.

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Adolf Hitler

[DGM]

I'm also curious where the idea that they could get Super Bowl prices for the ads came from. The Super Bowl is able to get the higher prices due to it having high ratings. There have been specials on cable (National Geographic, History and Discovery) that have dealt with 9/11 myths, yet none AFAIK made quite as big a splash to excuse a network for asking more money than usual from sponsors.

If my math is right (estimating that there would be 90 :30 ad slots) they would have to charge over $250,000 per 30 second slot.
I think this comes from the "truther" thinking they have much larger numbers then they do. To them this show would be much more popular then the super bowl but in reality the advertisers would be saying, "what the hell is a 9/11 truth movement".

[Myriad]

"Super-Bowl-like ad rates" imply Super-Bowl-like numbers of TV viewers.

That suggests that these particular truthers still believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that the total population of 9/11 conspiracy theorists and interested skeptics is several orders of magnitude larger than it is.

(John Q Public might not be as strong in formal critical thinking as we might wish, but their ability to lose interest when shown continuous fail remains a force to be reckoned with. It might take them a while. But in the end, inability to follow up is a flaw not even the trendiest pop star, the most powerful statesman, the most popular psychic, the most toxic ideology, can survive for long in the ongoing competitive struggle for public attention.)

I can understand how members of a movement whose greatest obstacle is their own lack of answers might enjoy fantasizing about multi-million dollar TV episodes being needed to oppose them.

Respectfully,
Myriad

ETA: Cross-posted the above with CptColumbo and DGM -- I didn't mean to be repetitive, redundant, and repetitive.

[buka001]

My initial reaction to reading the title was of great excitement, but as soon as I read they are building a 1/3rd scale model in a secret location etc for $25 million, I knew it was a hoax.
Some aspects of the falsehoods created by the truth movement could be easily tested on mythbusters (cellphones in planes etc), but building a 1/3rd scale model of the WTC etc ... Not viable!

[dtugg]

I think there at all the twoofers in the world should get together and pitch in their money to build a replica of one of the WTC towers and then fly a 767 into it. They could once in for all prove that impact damage plus fire can't destroy a huge steel skyscraper. What? Most of them are losers with no money?

[Drudgewire]

I'm also curious where the idea that they could get Super Bowl prices for the ads came from. The Super Bowl is able to get the higher prices due to it having high ratings. There have been specials on cable (National Geographic, History and Discovery) that have dealt with 9/11 myths, yet none AFAIK made quite as big a splash to excuse a network for asking more money than usual from sponsors.

If my math is right (estimating that there would be 90 :30 ad slots) they would have to charge over $250,000 per 30 second slot.

I'm pretty sure the original airdate for the History Channel 9/11 Conspiracy show was 8/20/07. Here are the cable ratings for the week ending 8/26.

1. The Closer (TNT)
2. NFL Pre-season Game (ESPN)
3. High School Musical 2 (Disney)
4. Nextel Cup Bristol (ESPN)
5. Monk (USA)
6. Saving Grace (TNT)
7. WWE Monday Night RAW - 10pm (USA)
8. WWE Monday Night RAW - 9pm (USA)
9. Army Wives (Lifetime)
10. Spy Kids 3 (Disney)

-Source (http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/08/29/nielsen-cable-ratings-for-the-week-ending-august-26/)

Oh yeah, they'd be able to get Superbowl rates for cable programs about this publicly long-dead topic. :rolleyes:

[AJM8125]

I think there at all the twoofers in the world should get together and pitch in their money to build a replica of one of the WTC towers and then fly a 767 into it. They could once in for all prove that impact damage plus fire can't destroy a huge steel skyscraper. What? Most of them are losers with no money?

I would also suggest some troofers volunteer to occupy the upper floors of the replica to dispel the notion that the fires weren't hot enough to make people jump. Win-win.

[cludgie]

Did the original 'press release' have 'Forward this via email to everyone you know' at the bottom?

[Comsat Angel]

"Mythbusters" in the one TV programme I make an effort to watch whenever it's on. Given their history, the time and budget constraints that they work under, there is simply no way they would even consider spending $7 million on a single episode. And what's with the "1/3" model? Stupidly large! 1/30th - maybe. Where would they get a 1/3 version of a 767? What would the insurance people have to say (apart from "NO!")?

[T.A.M.]

The biggest give away in all of this, is within the show itself.

It is an ENTERTAINMENT show. Look at the way they set up the show, the myths, and how they "bust them".

Can you see anyway they could take on the murder of 3000 Americans in such a jovial, entertaining fashion.

Just will not happen...and should not.

TAM:)

[technoextreme]

The biggest give away in all of this, is within the show itself.

It is an ENTERTAINMENT show. Look at the way they set up the show, the myths, and how they "bust them".

Can you see anyway they could take on the murder of 3000 Americans in such a jovial, entertaining fashion.

Just will not happen...and should not.

TAM:)
They have all ready received flak for doing that. Not on the scale you are talking about but they have made light the deaths of people before.

[Drudgewire]

The biggest give away in all of this, is within the show itself.

It is an ENTERTAINMENT show. Look at the way they set up the show, the myths, and how they "bust them".

Can you see anyway they could take on the murder of 3000 Americans in such a jovial, entertaining fashion.

Just will not happen...and should not.

TAM:)


Very true. Although the biggest give away is that only conspiracy sites are reporting it. Most other places do at least something resembling research before jumping on board.

And of course the comments page on the youtube is chock-full-o-stupidity about how this is disinfo to discredit the otherwise non-discredited movement. Good times, good times. :p

[Mince]

And of course the comments page on the youtube is chock-full-o-stupidity about how this is disinfo to discredit the otherwise non-discredited movement. Good times, good times. :p


Replete with characteristic misspellings. Particularly amusing is how they demean, without justification, Adam and Jamie's charater and integrity by stating that they would cover up and lie about anything adverse they would have discovered in a myth-busting investigation.

[T.A.M.]

They have all ready received flak for doing that. Not on the scale you are talking about but they have made light the deaths of people before.

Perhaps, but there would be no forgiving any humor in a show about the 9/11 CTs, unless it was the way of Penn and Teller.

I call absolute bogus.

TAM:)

[dtugg]

You know, even if the Mythbusters did replicate what happened to the WTC on 9/11, the morons would say that their replicas came down in a super secret CD and that the Mythbusters are now in on it.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Given their history, the time and budget constraints that they work under, there is simply no way they would even consider spending $7 million on a single episode.


The $7.2m figure was the alleged cost of the scale "model" towers only. The entire episode was claimed to cost a whopping $25m. Heroes "only" costs $4m/episode, from what I hear...

[beachnut]

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9551919888/m/3431910879
Please refrain from posting any show ideas that are 9/11 related. These are inappropriate because they are emotionally charged and cause discord among the members of the board.

This includes but is not limited to -

Cell communication on an air plane.
Jet fuel melting steel beams
Planes crashing into buildings

Again these are EXAMPLES and NOT INCLUSIVE of the ideas extrapolated from conspiracy theories. These topics are not going to be tested on the show.

Thank you for your cooperation on this subject.

MythMod

Have they changed their policy?
Have real dumb people taken over the earth?
Is the author of the video fully 9/11 truth stupid?
They better not use Balsamo to fly the jets into the 1/3 scale building, he can't hit a building in a simulator, how will he hit one in real life?


The program is "Mythbusters", not "DirtDumb 9/11 truther busters".

[Arus808]

nope policy is still in place. my thread hit the bit-bucket.

[Foolmewunz]

Took me a while to find it because I thought it was more recent, but Newsbiscuit already did a variation of this a while back. I think someone just picked up the idea and ran with the ball.

http://newsbiscuit.com/board/75/06//Mythbusters-team-to-solve-9-11-questions.html
(Much credit to them that their article, as intended, is actually funny rather than an attempt to scam.)


I found the earliest blog/board on this current one, though.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5715&view=getnewpost

It dates to 29/11 and has the added excitement that without cutting into their 25 million, they received some donated help from the Alex Jones Aerospace Research Company, evidently....

It has been reported that an anonymous aerospace company donated a miniature Boeing built to Jamie and Adams specifications that will be 1/3 the mass, weight,and size, of a real Boeing and will carry 1/3 the amount of fuel as well. Preliminary flight test have been performed by a custom Cessna as the mini-Boeing has been under lock and key parked in an undisclosed private hanger.


Oh, and apparently the replica is a bunch of lego blocks. (Just repeating what's on that thread, as I can't do YouTube at work.)

Normally, I'd say this is the work of Ace Baker. He's relatively lucid (insofar as he can construct a sentence - not making comment on the contents therein), is an admitted hoaxter (something in Wiki if I recall correctly), and has the biggest axe to grind viz the TV Fakery. (In fact, did anyone use that term prior to Ace bandying it about so much?)

[rjh01]

You people keep on mentioning 1/3 the size. However an object that is 1/3 height, length and width will weigh 1/27 of the original. A building 1/3 the height will require 1/3 the supports. Then if you cut down the other dimensions you get 1/27 the supports. Such a building would be much harder to demolish than the original.

[Brainache]

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9551919888/m/3431910879


Have they changed their policy?
Have real dumb people taken over the earth?
Is the author of the video fully 9/11 truth stupid?
They better not use Balsamo to fly the jets into the 1/3 scale building, he can't hit a building in a simulator, how will he hit one in real life?


The program is "Mythbusters", not "DirtDumb 9/11 truther busters".

Damn, I like the way you talk to these dingbats Beachnut.

I've nominated you before, with no success, but this time there could be a chance. The new TLA Dominatrix Hokulele has a much keener appreciation of the subtle nuances of regional dialects and how they are expressed typographically than that old stuck up Tricky bloke...

[Foolmewunz]

Damn, I like the way you talk to these dingbats Beachnut.

I've nominated you before, with no success, but this time there could be a chance. The new TLA Dominatrix Hokulele has a much keener appreciation of the subtle nuances of regional dialects and how they are expressed typographically than that old stuck up Tricky bloke...

Ha!
Up against my brilliant treatise on Hot Buttered Toast? Not a chance!
:spjimlad::spjimlad:

[Drudgewire]

Took me a while to find it because I thought it was more recent, but Newsbiscuit already did a variation of this a while back. I think someone just picked up the idea and ran with the ball.

http://newsbiscuit.com/board/75/06//Mythbusters-team-to-solve-9-11-questions.html
(Much credit to them that their article, as intended, is actually funny rather than an attempt to scam.)


I found the earliest blog/board on this current one, though.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5715&view=getnewpost

It dates to 29/11 and has the added excitement that without cutting into their 25 million, they received some donated help from the Alex Jones Aerospace Research Company, evidently....


Oh, and apparently the replica is a bunch of lego blocks. (Just repeating what's on that thread, as I can't do YouTube at work.)

Normally, I'd say this is the work of Ace Baker. He's relatively lucid (insofar as he can construct a sentence - not making comment on the contents therein), is an admitted hoaxter (something in Wiki if I recall correctly), and has the biggest axe to grind viz the TV Fakery. (In fact, did anyone use that term prior to Ace bandying it about so much?)


http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/mythbusted.jpg

[dudalb]

This is the first Mythbusters thread here to go so long without becoming a Kari Byron lust fest.

[1337m4n]

Oh hai thar.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_STBwdOr6yZQ/RqUZubjZK4I/AAAAAAAABn4/aYo3-n4w6UI/s400/kari05.jpg

[beachnut]

Ha!
Up against my brilliant treatise on Hot Buttered Toast? Not a chance!
:spjimlad::spjimlad:
sounds truthful to me

[Orphia Nay]

Took me a while to find it because I thought it was more recent, but Newsbiscuit already did a variation of this a while back. I think someone just picked up the idea and ran with the ball.

http://newsbiscuit.com/board/75/06//Mythbusters-team-to-solve-9-11-questions.html
(Much credit to them that their article, as intended, is actually funny rather than an attempt to scam.)


I found the earliest blog/board on this current one, though.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5715&view=getnewpost

It dates to 29/11 and has the added excitement that without cutting into their 25 million, they received some donated help from the Alex Jones Aerospace Research Company, evidently....




Oh, and apparently the replica is a bunch of lego blocks. (Just repeating what's on that thread, as I can't do YouTube at work.)

Normally, I'd say this is the work of Ace Baker. He's relatively lucid (insofar as he can construct a sentence - not making comment on the contents therein), is an admitted hoaxter (something in Wiki if I recall correctly), and has the biggest axe to grind viz the TV Fakery. (In fact, did anyone use that term prior to Ace bandying it about so much?)

Good googling, FMW!!! :cheerleader2

Seems like this latest myth comes from the poster at that 911movement forum, gr8benwa.

His was the youtube video in the OP. He's a no-planer, by the looks of his youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/greatbenwa

At that 911movement forum I came across one of his posts from Nov 12 2007 which is interesting:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=2047&hl=

[snip]

I HAVE CONTACTED DISCOVERY CHANNELS "MYTHBUSTERS" ABOUT THE 911 MYTH.

IN FACT I HAVE DONE SO MANY TIMES!

I WANTED THEM TO MAKE A SCALE MODEL OF THE TOWERS OUT OF CONCRETE AND STEEL AND FLY AN ALUMINUM AIRPLANE INTO IT.

EVERYTHING TO SCALE ...PLANE'S SPEED, WEIGHT, SIZE.


THEY HAVENT REPLIED.... SO IF I CAN'T COUNT ON THE MYTHBUSTERS.... I DONT KNOW WHO TO TRUST.

Maybe he's doing a woo Kevin Costner... "if you build it, they will come". :rolleyes:

[CFLarsen]

The reason they often use make-shift solutions on the show is not because they want a "hey, you can do this yourself" approach.

Last night, there was a rerun of Episode 82 on our local Discovery channel, where they test if a bullet can travel through a sniper's scope and kill him. The reason they only used 4 scopes was that that was what the budget could bear.

In other episodes, e.g. Episode 70, they have used free trucks, to save money. The snow plow cost them 3 days of production, because the truck's wheels wouldn't even turn. Three days of production is far more expensive than the thousand bucks it would have cost them to just buy an old truck that worked.

If they can't afford more than 4 scopes for a test, or a thousand dollars for an old truck, they certainly aren't going to spend over 20 million dollars on one episode.

At TAM, Adam has also said that they don't have a lot of money to spend - they always have to save where they can.

[Brainache]

Ha!
Up against my brilliant treatise on Hot Buttered Toast? Not a chance!
:spjimlad::spjimlad:

I agree. But I still admire Beachnut's style.

[Whiplash]

Oh hai thar.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_STBwdOr6yZQ/RqUZubjZK4I/AAAAAAAABn4/aYo3-n4w6UI/s400/kari05.jpg

I want to make it 100% clear that I think this blatant objectification of women is absolutely wrong, and I have not saved a copy of this image to my own hard drive, and I strongly recommend that everyone else resist the urge as well.

[Redtail]

Oh hai thar.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_STBwdOr6yZQ/RqUZubjZK4I/AAAAAAAABn4/aYo3-n4w6UI/s400/kari05.jpg

Meh! (yeah i said it) she is a Vegan and she... boobies...:eye-poppi

[UNLoVedRebel]

I want to make it 100% clear that I think this blatant objectification of women is absolutely wrong, and I have not saved a copy of this image to my own hard drive, and I strongly recommend that everyone else resist the urge as well.

Too late.

[A W Smith]

I want to make it 100% clear that I think this blatant objectification of women is absolutely wrong, and I have not saved a copy of this image to my own hard drive, and I strongly recommend that everyone else resist the urge as well.


oh great by clicking on that link instead of scrolling up my wifes gonna see it in my history .

[gc051360]

Yeah....a bit late to the game, but I call BS on this one.

A 1/3 replica of the Twin Towers would be gigantic....and...inefficient. Way outside the Mythbusters budget. And depending on what materials they use...I would guess that it is over the $7.3 million mark.

You can't sell Super Bowl priced ads for a Discovery Channel Mythbusters show. It's basic cable.

Also. The "upon receiving their 1 millionth request" looks fishy too. Who would keep track of that up to the million mark?

[Whiplash]

oh great by clicking on that link instead of scrolling up my wifes gonna see it in my history .

I did not mean to cause you a problem good sir! Please feel free to blame it on me. I can prepare an email taking the full blame. ;)

[JohnG]

Oh hai thar.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_STBwdOr6yZQ/RqUZubjZK4I/AAAAAAAABn4/aYo3-n4w6UI/s400/kari05.jpg


I demand more photographic evidence!

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Also. The "upon receiving their 1 millionth request" looks fishy too. Who would keep track of that up to the million mark?


And that "TV fakery" was apparently one of the top requests kind of blows it, too. This was either submitted to a truther site by someone trying to pull their leg, or a no-planer came up with it to... what; make their loony corner of the movement seem more prevalent? I don't have a clue...

[Orphia Nay]

Reading the apparent source (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5715&hl=)of this myth again I see gr8benwa prefaces his story with this:

THIS IS A TOOL FOR TV FAKERY ACTIVISM... GO VIRAL!

MYTHBUSTERS PROMO 2009 SPECIAL : WTC 3 MIN PROMO VID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DFdSAEL4o)


THE MYTHBUSTERS HAVE FINALLY given in to the pressure the producers have been under for several years. The show asks the viewers to send their favorite myth in via the internet for the show to consider. Upon receiving their 1 million request dealing with the various September 11th theories, the producers finally cracked.

"THIS IS A TOOL FOR TV FAKERY ACTIVISM... GO VIRAL!"

Spreading lies helps the tv fakery movement how??? I guess this only makes sense to a no-planer. :oldroll:

[CFLarsen]

TV fakery requires a lot of CGI. To recreate 9-11 using TV fakery would require someone else to do a lot of computer graphics, while the Mythbusters sat by and watched.

That's not what they do: Their approach is very much hands-on.