Fareed Zakaria demonstrates the "TM" is not dead

[Sizzler]

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=19R9H01IB1s&eurl=http://911blogger.com/

Former head of the ISI demonstrates that the TM is not dead. ;)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Former head of the ISI demonstrates that the TM is not dead. ;)


How so?

[1337m4n]

You know, with all the effort Truthers have put into trying to prove to us that their movement is "alive", they could have presented their evidence to the public and gotten a New InvestigationTM off the ground.

In your attempt to show that the movement is alive you prove that it is dead. A real movement demonstrates life through actions, not words.

[Doctor Evil]

Yet another connection between the truth movement and antisemitism. Does this makes you proud, Sizzler?

[beachnut]

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=19R9H01IB1s&eurl=http://911blogger.com/

Former head of the ISI demonstrates that the TM is not dead. ;)
There was the typical 9/11 truth lack of evidence, pure hearsay and fantasy.
No he proves 9/11 truth is brain dead! What a dolt!

This guy proves 9/11 truth was stillborn. OMG, he ignores the 19 terrorist and blames Jews! "Not all Jews are bad" – from the dolt! Great find.

Proof from you, 9/11 is dirt dumb dead stupid. Good job

That was terminal stupidity.

[Pardalis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Gul

Not someone I would call impartial in the matter. Not only is he a terrorist apologist, but a terrorist sympathizer.

Congrats Siz, even less credibility on your movement.

[ElMondoHummus]

Someone in a foreign country, who's a member/employee of an organization known to contain people with anti-US attitudes, who has zero access to primary evidence or "inside" information in the US government, and who spouts long disproven canards is not proof that the TM is alive. It's proof that there are people in the world who can beat a dead horse.

Wake me when you find real evidence, not merely unsupported allegations.

[Drudgewire]

Yet another connection between the truth movement and antisemitism. Does this makes you proud, Sizzler?


From the comments area, it certainly makes the racist scum littering youtube proud.

I always knew Israel was somehow responsible for 911. Jews are such trouble maker pests/cockroches.

Hell of a cheering section you guys have there. :rolleyes:

[alexg]

He has no details, he won't 'point the finger', he even says he does not know, so what value is his 'intelligence'. He only has suspicions like other truthers. He even refers to 'scientists and scholars' in the US who are 'saying this'. LOL A Pakistani who suspects Israel and who deoesn't even think Bin Laden is a terroist at all - how illuminating. This guy, if he is to help the TM, needs to supply DETAILS.

[Dr Adequate]

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=19R9H01IB1s&eurl=http://911blogger.com/

Former head of the ISI demonstrates that the TM is not dead. That's Hamid "the Jews caused all the wars" Gul?

Well, I guess so long as there's one Jew-hating terrorist sympathizer left, the Truth Movement will never really die.

Many people would be eager to disavow his support, but I guess you guys really do need all the help you can get.

[T.A.M.]

lol...

Sizzler, you and your nutball truther friends can have that guy. I hope you can get him to yell "inside job" from the rooftops.

TAM:)

[parky76]

There is the 9-11 Truth Movement...and there are 9-11 Conspiracy Theories and theorists (a.k.a. Truthers). Just because there are still folks who vocally advocate for the conspiracy theories, doesn't mean the coordinated and well organized Truth Movement is still alive.

There are still 9-11 truth theories...and 9-11 truthers...but the coordinated and organized "9-11 Truth Movement" died in 2007.

[DGM]

There is the 9-11 Truth Movement...and there are 9-11 Conspiracy Theories and theorists (a.k.a. Truthers). Just because there are still folks who vocally advocate for the conspiracy theories, doesn't mean the coordinated and well organized Truth Movement is still alive.

There are still 9-11 truth theories...and 9-11 truthers...but the coordinated and organized "9-11 Truth Movement" died in 2007.

Did one ever exist? I can't remember ever seeing any kind of "coordinated" effort from any of them.

[T.A.M.]

Did one ever exist? I can't remember ever seeing any kind of "coordinated" effort from any of them.

co-ordinated might be a debatable issue, but I think they definitely existed as a movement. I think back in 2006, when they had a number of organizational websites such as Scholars etc...and these sites had frontmen who did TV interviews, and when they had somewhat of a co-ordinated effort at GZ (I think about 1000 showed up), I think then they might have been called a "movement". Now it is simply a collections of quacks and CT nuts, just like the moon hoaxes, etc...

TAM:)

[eromitlab]

I would date the birth and death of the "movement" in 2006. They managed to get a whole gaggle of dolts to show up at Ground Zero on the fifth anniversary, passed Loose Change all the way around the internets, sold a bunch of stupid merch and drew attention to themselves and their "cause". Since then, it's just been random kids with black t-shirts and bullhorns barking at passing cars when they're not spamming random forums with talking points and "so-and-so who might have been important once believes us!!!!11!!1" appeals. There was a movement born, but which never grew out of infancy and in fact lived the life span of your average worker ant.

[A W Smith]

I love it when truthers lower themselves into a sewer and we throw the cast iron manhole lid back on. Keep doin it truthers.

[parky76]

Did one ever exist? I can't remember ever seeing any kind of "coordinated" effort from any of them.

I'm attempting to be nice. :D

Lets also keep in mind that web forums, Youtube video comments, etc., allows various groups to exagerate their popularity.

[CHF]

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=19R9H01IB1s&eurl=http://911blogger.com/

Former head of the ISI demonstrates that the TM is not dead. ;)

It seems that you and your fellow twoofers spend a lot of your time these days saying: "See??? We're not totally dead yet!"

Any "movement" that reaches that stage is, for all intents and purposes, dead.

[parky76]

It seems that you and your fellow twoofers spend a lot of your time these days saying: "See??? We're not totally dead yet!"

Any "movement" that reaches that stage is, for all intents and purposes, dead.

exactly. the fact that they are constantly yelling and screaming:

"we are not dead!!! yoo hoo!!! here we are!! see, we are still not dead!!!"

suggests that they are indeed aware of their demise...or at least their utter failure.

[Brainster]

Gul (appropriately enough pronounced "ghoul") was on Alex Jones yesterday, and his "evidence" was the usual stew of "Hani Hanjour was a terrible pilot," and "the US intercepts hijacked planes in 7 minutes".

Given the chance to interview a former head of the ISI, Alex asked nothing about the old "Mahmoud Ahmed wired $100,0000 to Mohamed Atta," story. Not a single question on that topic, which was highlighted in both Loose Change Final Cut and Fabled Enemies. My guess is that Alex didn't want his "inside job" believer to say the obvious, that the Times of India story was a bunch of bunk.

[gumboot]

JREF: Bring out your dead movements!

JREF loudly hammers an old pot lid.

JREF: Bring out your dead movements!

CUSTOMER: Here's one.
JREF: Ninepence.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I'm not dead!
JREF: What?
CUSTOMER: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I'm not dead!
JREF: 'Ere. It says it's not dead!
CUSTOMER: Yes, it is.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I'm not!
JREF: It isn't?
CUSTOMER: Well, it will be soon. It's very ill.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
JREF: Oh, I can't take it like that. It's against regulations.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
JREF: I can't take it.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I feel fine!
CUSTOMER: Well, do us a favour.
JREF: I can't.
CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? It won't be long.
JREF: No, I've got to go to BAUT. They've lost nine today.
CUSTOMER: Well, when's your next round?
JREF: Thursday.
TRUTH MOVEMENT: I think I'll go post on the internet.
CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
TRUTH MOVEMENT: [singing] I feel happy. I feel happy.

JREF hammers Truth Movement across the back of the head with its pot lid.

CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.
JREF: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
CUSTOMER: Right. All right.


All credit to Monty Python. :)

[Hokulele]

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JREF loudly hammers an old pot lid with a large clue bat.

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JREF hammers Truth Movement across the back of the head with its clue bat.


Fixed it for you. ;)

[T.A.M.]

Very nice. Had me laughing very much!

TAM:)

[PhantomWolf]

Sonce we're going with Monty Python does the truth movement...

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[Brainster]

I blew it on the comment about Alex Jones failing to ask the question about the $100,000 wire transfer; Alex did ask the question at the very end of the interview, four minutes after he said he was going to let the general go in three minutes. My bad.

[Blender Head]

I blew it on the comment about Alex Jones failing to ask the question about the $100,000 wire transfer; Alex did ask the question at the very end of the interview, four minutes after he said he was going to let the general go in three minutes. My bad.

Since I don't want to punish my ears, how'd that exchange go?

[ULTIMA1]

suggests that they are indeed aware of their demise...or at least their utter failure.

To me it is the beleivers that must be aware of thier utter failure because they have to keep attacking and name calling anyone who does not agree with them.

The believers also have still failed to realize that they have no real evidence to support the official story since most of the evidence has not been released. That just shows how much of a fantasy world they are living in.

[AJM8125]

That just shows how much of a fantasy world they are living in.
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