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Powa
21st December 2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
"...and you think you're SPECIAL? ".

I never said I was.
Two points:

1. You're the only one seeing these "demons" in compression damaged images. I think that makes you special (in more ways than one).

And...

2. When every religious person on this planet is 100% sure that their faith is the only one to lead them to heaven (or whatever) and you say that they're all wrong and you're right, that makes you special.

You may not have said it in so many words, but all you've said implied it.

Originally posted by Charlie in Dayton
This forum is about the Million Dollar Challenge. The discussion should return to that direction, or this thread should be moved to 'Religion'.I Agree. This thread should be moved to Religion from day 1, because there was never anything more to it.

The Central Scrutinizer
21st December 2003, 04:00 PM
Lyndale,

Did you ride the short bus to school?

Signed,

Just Curious

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 08:59 PM
mmm?


Point one...No Sir, your wrong. Everyone see's them, just no one is agreeing on what they are and what they are not.

Point two...I never said that the world was wrong and I was right. That is a lie.

Why do you persist in using false remarks against me? Personally I don't think it makes you look good.

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
Lyndale,

Did you ride the short bus to school?

Signed,

Just Curious


Went to a privet school.

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:07 PM
Some of you seem to think I am running around shouting demons or something.

Wrong.

Has I said from the beginning...It's just my opinion.

I am past the are they or arent they...I am at this is what they are.

Your right..I am not going to budge one inch. They are and I know it.

If your to stupid or to scared to see with your own eyes and comprehend the odds of what you see, then thats your problem.

I don't look at it has I have a problem. I know from lots of studying and observing photos and video.........that they are. I'll say it till I am blue in the face..........'they are.


But I am not wearing a bed sheet running around some airport beating a tamberien either.

That would be stupid.

(smiles)

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:14 PM
I thought you people were smart?


But you really can't comprehend this can you?


You really are blined by them?


"Even has the door shut and the rain fell...still they wouldn't believe".

You can not take a deck of cards...........throw them on the ground 100.000.000 times and one 100.000.000 times they always land face down and say ........nothing going on there, that was just normal............."under the right conditions it is easy to show those faces demonstrating that same situation over and over again without fail". This is impossible for it to be random....does no one in here understand that?! Are you people really that stupid?

(rolls eyes)


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:17 PM
THERE HAS TO BE ********RANDAMABILITY in it***********FOR IT TO BE WHAT YOU SAY IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:28 PM
I CAN SHOW YOU AT TIMES WHERE YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH FROM PICTURE TO PICTURE

GOBS OF FACES IN EACH PICTURE

......ALL WITH EYE SOCKETS
......ALL WITH MOUTH SOCKETS
......ALL WITH FACIAL FEATURES
......ALL WITH HEAD STRUCTURES
......ALL WITH EXPRESSIONS


OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

HUNDEREDS OF TIMES IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DOESN'T ANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND.......THIS SHOULD "NOT" BE POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FOR THIS TO BE IMPLIES THE OPPOSIT OF RANDAMABILITY. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS?


AGAIN!!!!!

YOU CANT TAKE A DECK OF CARDS THROW THEM IN THE FLOOR AND AFTER ONE MILLION TIMES WITH EVERY THROW THEY ALL TURN UP ON THE SAME SIDE. I M P O S S I B L E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now say all of this to yourselves 10 times each.........here it learn it.....it is the truth. It is not a lie.

You are not experiancing "random" when the experiance is always "repeated with the same results".

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
21st December 2003, 09:47 PM
PSSssst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Stands on the highest mountain.


and shouts...........


The door is closing and did you feel that?


It's rain.



Lyndale

Powa
21st December 2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Point one...No Sir, your wrong. Everyone see's them, just no one is agreeing on what they are and what they are not.No sir, you're wrong. I said "demons" not faces. Everyone can see faces, but only you see "demons".
Point two...I never said that the world was wrong and I was right. That is a lie.
Oh, is it?
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
There is only one path to the Father and that is by the Son Jesus. He said He was the only way the only truth and the only life and that no man will come unto the Father but by Him.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
ALL OTHER PATHS EXCEPT THIS ONE IS FALSE AND LEADS TO HELL.

JESUS AND ONLY JESUS IS......... THE WAY.........THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.................................T*H*E*R*E

....I*S..........N*O ........
...............................................O*T *H*E*R.

Yes, that means that there are millions upon millions going to hell.

Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
ONE PATH AND ONLY ONE PATH.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
There is only one path to our Father and that is by His Gift/Son, Jesus. There is no other path.............NONE.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I know Jesus is. I know Jesus' words are true. I know the path of Jesus is.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Because all other paths fail, thus they are false paths.

Only the one path works. I've walked it and lived by it. It has never failed. It has and is true to "itself". The others are not.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
It is the only one, the only path.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I walk [the pathi]. It has never failed in what it says it is. The path is true.

(snip)

All those false paths in the world...they always fail somewhere along the lines and some people jump from path to path and some dont.
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
You sound like one of those "jews" who were/are blinded to Jesus by satan and still wait for a messiah.

Funny thing is...the one you wait for is the anti christ.

Feel sorry for you.

Jesus is the Son of God. He did fullfill all prophescies. He met all requirements. He is God's Son.

And:

Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
You are for Him or you are against Him. There is no in-between.
So Lyndale, how are these statements not saying that you're right and everyone else is wrong (and going to hell)?

And please, don't call me a liar.

Suezoled
22nd December 2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness




"...and you think you're SPECIAL? ".

I never said I was.

If your going to attack, might I suggest you do so with truth.


Lyndale

Oh, hey, I guess LPD wasn't raptured. Or he was de-raptured.

You don't have to outright say anything. It's as apparent to the forum members as the demons are to you.

Beleth
22nd December 2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
You watched the re-runs also, uh?You will say anything to avoid actually answering my question, won't you?

You say you hate these demons but you obviously love them more than you love your kids. That's why you refuse to do anything to get rid of the demons.

Or are you afraid that if you confide in someone in a position of authority, that they will have your kids taken away from you? That's why I said to not go to the police. The police will not help you in this regard, but there are people who can and will help you if you only go to them.

Powa
22nd December 2003, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Beleth
You say you hate these demons but you obviously love them more than you love your kids. That's why you refuse to do anything to get rid of the demons.

As I said before, I think Lyndale needs his "demons" and doesn't want to get rid of them. That's probably why he refuses to listen to our reasonable explanations for the "faces". He's obviously looking forward to the Rapture of which the demons are heralds. So, if I'm correct, he's actually happy to see them or at the very least doesn't fear them because he's on the right path.

Lyndale, does this make sense to you? Am I wrong?

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Powa
No sir, you're wrong. I said "demons" not faces. Everyone can see faces, but only you see "demons".

Oh, is it?










And:


So Lyndale, how are these statements not saying that you're right and everyone else is wrong (and going to hell)?

And please, don't call me a liar.



"Everyone can see faces, but only you see demons".

I said it was my opinion.

You should be more carefull.........thats admission.

Jesus said (not me) that He was the only path to the Father.
...and because I believe in Him...dam me? haha.



Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Beleth
You will say anything to avoid actually answering my question, won't you?

You say you hate these demons but you obviously love them more than you love your kids. That's why you refuse to do anything to get rid of the demons.

Or are you afraid that if you confide in someone in a position of authority, that they will have your kids taken away from you? That's why I said to not go to the police. The police will not help you in this regard, but there are people who can and will help you if you only go to them.


My life is no different then it was before the faces were found.

I can't make the faces not be there, no more then you could.

They are there. You see them. Others see them.
If I'd said..."they are aliens". lol....you'd of listened, but because I say "the fallen of heaven"..I am nuts.

Believe what you will.

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Powa


As I said before, I think Lyndale needs his "demons" and doesn't want to get rid of them. That's probably why he refuses to listen to our reasonable explanations for the "faces". He's obviously looking forward to the Rapture of which the demons are heralds. So, if I'm correct, he's actually happy to see them or at the very least doesn't fear them because he's on the right path.

Lyndale, does this make sense to you? Am I wrong?


"...to our reasonable explanations..."


Reasonable?

Your reasonable "whatever" is.......a cloud thing. A random thing. A random kaos thing.

Fine........you keep believing in that, but in the back of your mind ....you think about this.

How can "random" contain "repeatable reconizable patterns"?

With each containing "eye sockets and mouth sockets"? With many containing expressions, facial features head structures.

(idiots)


Lyndale

Powa
22nd December 2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
If I'd said..."they are aliens". lol....you'd of listened, but because I say "the fallen of heaven"..I am nuts.
You're only talking different degrees of nuts. You only say that they're demons because you're so deeply religious. Otherwise you'd probably be able to accept our explanations for the "faces".
And why would we have listened to you if you said they were aliens? We're skeptics, remember? We don't take your word for it. If you showed us the proof of demons we would accept it. It's that simple. Can you prove it?

No.

We're all running around with one foot nailed to the floor.

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:09 PM
Well 518 replies later, we're at....."ya we see them" but its still just random kaos."

Wondering how many more replies will you realize its not random?

Hahahaha

Your an amazing bunch.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Powa

You're only talking different degrees of nuts. You only say that they're demons because you're so deeply religious. Otherwise you'd probably be able to accept our explanations for the "faces".
And why would we have listened to you if you said they were aliens? We're skeptics, remember? We don't take your word for it. If you showed us the proof of demons we would accept it. It's that simple. Can you prove it?

No.

We're all running around with one foot nailed to the floor.




"If you showed us the proof of demons we would accept it. It's that simple. Can you prove it?"


How can one prove to you if you hold no criterier of what it is?

By what criterier will you know........if you never knew to begin with?


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:24 PM
How many .........."repeatable circumstances"..............would you have to see.......before you believed?

1 page of faces?

2 pages of faces?


1000 pages of faces?


100.000.000 pages of faces?


Just how many will it take for you people to rub your pointed chins and go...............ummmm, maybe theres something to it?

But you really cant answer that can you?

Random or Reality?

Your the ones who don't know the difference.


Lyndale

Powa
22nd December 2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
How can "random" contain "repeatable reconizable patterns"?

With each containing "eye sockets and mouth sockets"? With many containing expressions, facial features head structures.

(idiots)
You failed to define "repeatable" (you were asked this before). Do you mean that they're in the same spot in different pictures? Show us. Do you mean they can be seen throughout a moving sequence? Show us.

For the love of you god, SHOW US ALREADY!

And I don't mean just a single image, show us a sequence of images and show us what's "repeatable" in them. How can we be on page 14 without seeing any proof?

Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
How can one prove to you if you hold no criterier of what it is?

By what criterier will you know........if you never knew to begin with?
Huh? Do you comprehend the concept of proof? It's something that noone can deny. Either you prove something or you don't. And I don't need any "criterier" to look at the proof. On the other hand it's you who looks at images with preconceived notions.

Powa
22nd December 2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
How many .........."repeatable circumstances"..............would you have to see.......before you believed?

1 page of faces?

2 pages of faces?


1000 pages of faces?


100.000.000 pages of faces?


Just how many will it take for you people to rub your pointed chins and go...............ummmm, maybe theres something to it?
How about one? Prove it once and you'll have our undivided attention.

Edited to add: And not to mention you'll be one megabuck richer.

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:32 PM
(shakes head)

Unbelieveable.


Later.


Lyndale

Powa
22nd December 2003, 02:41 PM
Lyndale, it all boils down to this: either you can prove it or you can't. If you can, take the challenge, and if you can't you're just wasting your time, our time, and your god's time. This thread is getting old. You repeat your claims over and over and over again but are unwilling to produce evidence. So how do we proceed? Unless you change something about how you do this, we don't. All we do here is spin in circles.

And calling the people who ask for evidence idiots doesn't help the matter.

So Lyndale, why are you still here? Nothing has changed since page 1. As someone has said "put up or shut up".

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Powa
Lyndale, it all boils down to this: either you can prove it or you can't. If you can, take the challenge, and if you can't you're just wasting your time, our time, and your god's time. This thread is getting old. You repeat your claims over and over and over again but are unwilling to produce evidence. So how do we proceed? Unless you change something about how you do this, we don't. All we do here is spin in circles.

And calling the people who ask for evidence idiots doesn't help the matter.

So Lyndale, why are you still here? Nothing has changed since page 1. As someone has said "put up or shut up".





IN HOW MANY LANGUAGES DO YOU NEED TO HEAR........


I'VE APPLIED TO THIS CHALLANGE AT LEAST 3x'S NOW!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WILL NOT LET ME TAKE THE CHALLANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY KNOW I'M RIGHT.................THEY WON'T LET GO OF THE BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don''t you get it? They already know.


Lyndale

Prolix
22nd December 2003, 03:32 PM
So let's sue the b.....ds. And the courts will make them pay.

DarkMagician
22nd December 2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
HOW MANY LOGISTICAL MISTAKES DO YOU NEED TO HEAR........


I'VE PRINTED OUT THE APPLICATION TO THIS CHALLANGE AT LEAST 3x'S NOW!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WILL NOT LET ME WIN THE CHALLANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY KNOW I'M WRONG.................THEY WON'T LET GO OF THE BUCKS WITHOUT ACTUAL PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don''t you get it? They already know.


Lyndale

FIXED!

LightPiercingDarkness
22nd December 2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by DarkMagician


FIXED!



Wish you were that easy.


(smiles)


Lyndale

Powa
22nd December 2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I'VE APPLIED TO THIS CHALLANGE AT LEAST 3x'S NOW!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WILL NOT LET ME TAKE THE CHALLANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY KNOW I'M RIGHT.................THEY WON'T LET GO OF THE BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don''t you get it? They already know.

If they already know, you must have shown them something else than you've shown us. If not, I understand them completely.

Beleth
23rd December 2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
How can one prove to you if you hold no criterier of what it is?What's there to prove? You state repeately:

Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I said it was my opinion.How can you prove an opinion? You can't. No one can.

You think there's demons there. Fine. That's your opinion. You state repeatedly that this is your opinion. Others have different opinions. Fine. So stop bemoaning the fact that you can't "prove" it, and stop bemoaning the fact that the JREF won't give you the money for an opinion you have!

If it's just an opinion, you have no case, and will get no money.
If it's more than an opinion, you have been lying when you say "it was my opinion".

Which is it?

DarkMagician
23rd December 2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Wish you were that easy.

(smiles)

Lyndale I'm not the one saying over and over again that I see faces in checkerboard patterns made by JPEG compressions, and am not giving any proof of this aside from appeals to authority, argument ad nauseaum, and other logistical mistakes.

I'm not broke, so why fix me?

LightPiercingDarkness
25th December 2003, 05:12 PM
Ummm can you feel the love. (burrrrr).

Just wanted to take a moment and cheer you up and say....


baaa hummm bug.


(lol...smiles)



Lyndale

Powa
26th December 2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Please, let this thread die.
So why did you have to bump it up? It was dying just fine.

The Central Scrutinizer
26th December 2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness



Went to a privet school.

What is a "privet" school?

But again - Did you ride the short bus?

Rolfe
26th December 2003, 01:04 PM
Lyndale: please ignore this post.

The rest of you - since the thread hasn't died yet, consider. Schizophrenia. Look it up.

I admit I'm not a doctor, but I have talked this over with one. And I admit she's not a psychiatrist. However, she says this condition is common and she has seen many cases, and if it isn't quite a racing certainty, it's close.

Her point, emphasised many times, was that one guaranteed way to make this sort of situation worse is to argue. Argument, however rational, has no chance whatsoever against fixed irrational belief, and merely exacerbates the condition.

Apparently it's quite common for the patient to function perfectly well so long as the subject of the fixed belief is avoided, and if he doesn't bring it up with family or friends then life may be pretty much OK. However, the more time spent defending the belief, the more the chance of it all spilling over into areas of life which were previously unaffected.

Just a point to consider.

Rolfe.

The Central Scrutinizer
26th December 2003, 02:13 PM
Lyndale,

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you are schizophrenic.

Let's talk about choo-choo trains!!!

Jeff Wagg
26th December 2003, 02:48 PM
The Central Scrutinizer - your last comment was cowardly and cheap. You can do better, and I believe you owe Lyndale an apology no matter what his trespasses.

wayrad
26th December 2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Rolfe
Her point, emphasised many times, was that one guaranteed way to make this sort of situation worse is to argue. Absolutely. There are several people here (I am one) who have had personal experience dealing with this sort of thing. It's an enormous temptation to try, but no amount of arguing is going to fix malfunctioning neurochemistry.

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 06:43 PM
Boy, you guys are good. What does one say to a few thousand years of practice?


I am the kinda person who believes there's a proper response to everything.
God said , something to the effect..."be ready to give answer, in season and out of season" (something like that)...but I must admit... I am amazed in your "reality" and the "way you personally think"....

You seem to think because I don't agree with you...that I am nuts.

Well.....What If I said "your nuts"? Your nuts because you dont admit openly and repeatedly....."the faces can be seen/they are there". Now for a moment lets say........you agree.....you see them. FINE. Now we have an agreement...that we "both" see them.
You say "this".......and I say "that".............your opinion is distoration.........mine is "the fallen". I say...the foundation of "your" opinion is wrong....because "true" distortion would NOT REPEAT the faces....that being defined as..100% of "each" of them (when found) have "EYE SOCKETS AND MOUTH SOCKETS". Over 50% of them have a "COMMON" "HEAD STRUCTURE". .........With a "good" fine....Over 50% of them having "FACIAL FEATURES AND HEAD STRUCTURES".
.................................................T his is what your calling distortion..........I find "your" response unacceptable. and I think your ................."NUTS".

Distortion should be....................."Static that does not repeat ........................."so precise"........of a ..........."SPECIFIC".........PATTERN/FACES.

You say I am nuts?...........I say your nuts.

Since I've been here.........I'll be the first to admit......."low on popularity".
But I am telling you square eye to eye in the face.

"Those faces are real"..................It's right there in front of you .

I believe because of who you are ("not of Christ"), that no matter what I say will convince you. I've repeatedly walked out the path of why "they" are. There is no "logical" response that you have ever given to alter that fact. I don't care if there are 3000 of you....Those faces are real and I'll die saying it. Now if that sounds totally (has you say) "woo woo" to you .........


Then so be it.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 06:49 PM
Not one of you ..........

"have ever given a .........****logical**** refute to what I've said."

Not one of you.

You can not .........explain.................reputition of 100% when found......repeated pattern of eye sockets and mouth sockets and head structure in most findings.



You've offered half *** attempts at why "some" things look like this or that.

BUT none of you have ever "tackled" the direct response of ...............explaining those "specific" repeated patterns..that I say are faces.

NONE of YOU!!


FACT.

AND DON'T FORGET IT WHEN YOU MAKE SOME OTHER HALF *** ATTEMPT AT THESE REMARKS.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 07:00 PM
As a matter of fact........


Right here and NOW.

I demand that this chat forum of people....explain to me fully a logical response to....

How you believe "those" "specific" patterns/faces keep repeating themselves and never falter in their "CONSTANT" eye and mouth socket pattern.

I've seen them in circumstances where.........each face had......head structure.......facial features ......expressions.........eye sockets........mouth sockets.
(and I am talking dozens of dozens on the same page, not just a few).

EXPLAIN THAT.

YOU CAN'T AND NEVER WILL .......all you do is guess.

It's impossible for this to happen....don't you get it?

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 07:17 PM
I remember a verse in the Bible where it says something like...."it's an "evil" and "preverse" nation, that looks for a sign".


Then (to me), one comes along.


And I must admit ......to me there is a contradiction there.

Why let a sign happen when at least once You said it was wrong to even look?...........that is what I think when I think..................WHY? Why is this happening and why now?

The only logical response I can find concerning God is...

No one will be able to say in the end..."He didnt give us one last chance". ...because He is right now.

Im telling you...."its starting to rain and the door of the ark is getting ready to shut for a final time".

You really gonna let it pass you by? Just because you can't let go of that old nature that you hold so dearly to?

Jesus said...its easier for a cammel to go thrue the eye of a needle , then a rich man to enter heaven.

We're a rich fat race.

All you hold so dear to one day will mean nothing.

kinda hypicrytical comming from someone looking for a million uh?

Never said I was perfect.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 07:41 PM
You know...If I were you.
I'd be thinking?


Why can't my mind make my heart fully understand what He is saying?

Is He really right ......or.........just plain nuts.


Does something manipulate my thoughs and feelings, like he thinks?

Do they/faces blind me to what he is saying?

Is it possible? or Is it impossible?



I am telling you people.
Like a ring in your nose.

Do your eyes lie at what they reveal?
Or is your brain lying at the results of the finding of the eyes?

Like a ring.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 07:48 PM
God said....."in the twinkle of an eye".

That is the description of what the bible says ...how fast the rapture will happen.

Ever wonder when there might be a twinkle in each of our eyes?

Was He talking of a moment ....or maybe of an object?

He said it would happen......at such a time as you think "not".

The "not" being (I think)...at a moment you'd even be thinking of God.


If I were to "guess" ( and let me say here and now that no man according to God knows)...I'd say...............that moment when the ball is dropping as it signafies the new year.

There will be a twinkle in every eye. Everyone watches that ball.
Is the twinkle a moment or an object?

Nawwwwwww


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
26th December 2003, 07:53 PM
Ya I crawled out on that limb with that one (the above reply).

Woo woo

Right?


Ummmmm tic toc tic toc


wonders where all those 100% explainable answers ...has to...what is making those faces?

Lyndale

joyrex
27th December 2003, 01:20 AM
So what if those figures are faces? Should we study them somehow?

Powa
27th December 2003, 01:34 AM
I am now officialy done with this thread and will not reply ever again. It has all become tired and old. Moreover if I'm in any way making someone's condition worse I should stop immediately. I suggest others do the same and finally let this mess of a thread die.

Lyndale I hope you seek help and get better.

Powa

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by Powa
I am now officialy done with this thread and will not reply ever again. It has all become tired and old. Moreover if I'm in any way making someone's condition worse I should stop immediately. I suggest others do the same and finally let this mess of a thread die.

Lyndale I hope you seek help and get better.

Powa


I see you have no answers to the "face" pattern question above.

Now please, Keep your promise and never reply, since you value my "condition"...lol.

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by joyrex
So what if those figures are faces? Should we study them somehow?

No, not at all.

What you should do is (if this applies to you), give more thought to ..."Have I made all the "right" decisions concerning God".

(but do not come to Him because of these faces, that would be a false path)

Look to His Son, Jesus.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 06:23 AM
tic toc tic toc


Your right. We are comming to an end of this thread.

None of you since this thread has started has addressed the
"repeated" specific "face" patteren. NO LOGICAL answers were never given as to why they are....and since you will never have any JREF.........by your own "none" response......they are.

And for the blind one who reads this and gets his dress all caught up in a pinch because he don't like what I am saying...scroll up and understand Just exactly what I am saying that you have never been able to refute.........before you start with the "lame" distortion replies.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 06:39 AM
You know what sticks in my craw more than anything concerning you guys?


The fact that you care more about being wrong then you do the finding. That "constant" is proven through out this thread. That in itself is proof of their control over you.

You don't still yet believe that? Here let me demonstrate it once more.



I will concede in all any of you have said...........if any of you can give a LOGICAL response to why those repeated patterns "all" have eye and mouth sockets.

Now watch......none logical answers will be repeated...yet none of them can logically address the issue. Only half *** attempts are made.

Don't you guys get it. You can't answer it, because there is no answer to why they are not.


They are.

The only logical arguement you have is..."who they are"......not "if they are".

That will a hell of a battle when that one starts. Many will say...aliens. (how sad)

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 06:49 AM
You want to know why I came back here?

I came here so I could demonstrate on paper (in theory) with you guys)...why they are and have a public record that could be used in court.

This I now have.

I want to thank you. For without your attacks and you backing me into a corner and my responses......no one would'uv listened. You've given me arguement/substance on paper where I have clearly demonstrated, that even this foundation itself cannot logically refute them.

That should hold up good in court.

Thank you.

Lyndale

Prolix
27th December 2003, 07:59 AM
Lyndale,

Ok, so you are finally ready to go to court? As I've said all along, I'll go with you. I'll even sponsor some of the expenses. It's the best way to prove to the forum, and yourself, and your children, that this is not all craziness in the mind but rather something real and actionable.

You know the Bible says it's not enough to contemplate the faith, you must LIVE it.

You've done enough contemplation, now let's "walk the path".

Mercutio
27th December 2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness

I will concede in all any of you have said...........if any of you can give a LOGICAL response to why those repeated patterns "all" have eye and mouth sockets.
There is a very simple, and quite logical explanation, grounded in evolutionary theory and research into human visual perception.

First...our perceptual systems are biased, and for very good reason. It is such an evolutionary advantage to see things that go together (i.e., to see predictable patterns) that natural selection has erred on the side of having us see patterns in randomness, rather than miss patterns that are there, but which are weakly visible. There is an entire literature within social cognitive psychology which looks at control and predictability which backs this up.

Secondly...what could be more important in our evolutionary history than to see another organism approaching? Whether friend, foe, or food, the ability to see a face quickly even if it is partially hidden is a tremendous reproductive advantage. It does not cost much, evolutionarily speaking, to be able to see a face that is formed from random elements (Dali's paintings are, to my mind, the most elegant example of this), whereas it could cost everything to miss a face that was a danger. Selection pressures would quite obviously move us toward a hair-trigger sensitivity to faces or face-like stimuli.

Which, thirdly, brings us to feature-detecters. In our perception of visual objects, we have particular cells that fire to signal the presence of particular visual features--whether particular "gratings" of a fourier-analysis (I include that one only for the vision-wonks on the board), or particular angles of lines, or circles, or...yes...faces.

What is the simplest way (and natural selection usually finds the simplest way, as it is the least work) to recognise a "face" as opposed to some other configuration? The common denominator would appear to be eye and mouth sockets. Noses are barely visible at a distance, but those eyes and mouth...yup, those are the important features.

Thus, the eye and mouth configuration is the logical and practical "red flag" that grabs the attention of your perceptual system. It is the way we are built, for very good reason. It is not a mistake that you see these faces, but rather the result of an adaptive process that ensured that our ancestors made it.

Ok...I would suggest that I have given an explanation that is both logical, and consistent with experimental evidence. Will you concede?

edited to add....sorry, just read quite a bit more of the thread. I now know this is windmill-tilting, and will not post more here.

LightPiercingDarkness
27th December 2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Mercutio

There is a very simple, and quite logical explanation, grounded in evolutionary theory and research into human visual perception.

First...our perceptual systems are biased, and for very good reason. It is such an evolutionary advantage to see things that go together (i.e., to see predictable patterns) that natural selection has erred on the side of having us see patterns in randomness, rather than miss patterns that are there, but which are weakly visible. There is an entire literature within social cognitive psychology which looks at control and predictability which backs this up.

Secondly...what could be more important in our evolutionary history than to see another organism approaching? Whether friend, foe, or food, the ability to see a face quickly even if it is partially hidden is a tremendous reproductive advantage. It does not cost much, evolutionarily speaking, to be able to see a face that is formed from random elements (Dali's paintings are, to my mind, the most elegant example of this), whereas it could cost everything to miss a face that was a danger. Selection pressures would quite obviously move us toward a hair-trigger sensitivity to faces or face-like stimuli.

Which, thirdly, brings us to feature-detecters. In our perception of visual objects, we have particular cells that fire to signal the presence of particular visual features--whether particular "gratings" of a fourier-analysis (I include that one only for the vision-wonks on the board), or particular angles of lines, or circles, or...yes...faces.

What is the simplest way (and natural selection usually finds the simplest way, as it is the least work) to recognise a "face" as opposed to some other configuration? The common denominator would appear to be eye and mouth sockets. Noses are barely visible at a distance, but those eyes and mouth...yup, those are the important features.

Thus, the eye and mouth configuration is the logical and practical "red flag" that grabs the attention of your perceptual system. It is the way we are built, for very good reason. It is not a mistake that you see these faces, but rather the result of an adaptive process that ensured that our ancestors made it.

Ok...I would suggest that I have given an explanation that is both logical, and consistent with experimental evidence. Will you concede?

edited to add....sorry, just read quite a bit more of the thread. I now know this is windmill-tilting, and will not post more here.


Sorry bud, heard and refuted all of that earlier.
Your the kinda person I'd like to tell ..."go pee in a corner in a round room".


THERE ARE ...............SPECIFIC.................REPEATED.. ............PATTERENS OF FACES.................NOT RANDOM IMAGES..............THAT YOU THINK THE MIND IS JUST PUTTING TOGETHER!

WAKE UP!!! PEOPLE!!! AND GROW A BRAIN!!!


Lyndale

The Central Scrutinizer
27th December 2003, 08:59 AM
I'm going to watch the football game today!!! Anyone else?

joyrex
27th December 2003, 09:05 AM
Nope, but I'll have some beer and play a game.. have fun!

The Central Scrutinizer
27th December 2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by joyrex
Nope, but I'll have some beer and play a game.. have fun!

Cool!! What game?

joyrex
27th December 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
Cool!! What game?Return to Castle Wolfenstein multiplayer:D

The Central Scrutinizer
27th December 2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by joyrex
Return to Castle Wolfenstein multiplayer:D

Neat-O!!! I remember the original. I really need to get back into some video games.

Jeff Wagg
28th December 2003, 07:52 AM
As the creator of this thread, I'd like to officially declare it dead.

EDIT: My apologies, I mistook this thread for one that I had created in which Lyndale made an appearance. I did not create this thread.

LightPiercingDarkness
28th December 2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Jeff Wagg
As the creator of this thread, I'd like to officially declare it dead.




"...creator..."

?

Since this thread is ending.

I'd like to post one last reply and say thank you for your responses.

oh and one last thing..............

Has this thread ends.


You remember this.......

At no time since this thread has begun........has anyone ever logically addressed the 3 socket face patteren issue...to explain in a one hundread percent logical explanation of why they are there............NONE OF YOU. Remember that.


I will.


Lyndale

The Central Scrutinizer
28th December 2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness


I will.


Lyndale

You won't.

gOD ISN'T.

DarkMagician
28th December 2003, 01:14 PM
Sorry, but this shot is just too easy.
misquoted of LightPiercingDarkness
WAKE UP!!! PEOPLE!!! AND GROW A BRAIN IN YOUR BUTT LIKE I HAVE!!!


Lyndale
Hey, try to make photos as bitmaps, and convert them to GIF's (try not to use JPEGS at any stage). If you see "the faces" again, come tell me.

EDIT: Can't leave it as just a cheap shot.

Beleth
3rd January 2004, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
At no time since this thread has begun........has anyone ever logically addressed the 3 socket face patteren issue...to explain in a one hundread percent logical explanation of why they are there............
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg-faq/
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/

I found these after spending 15 seconds on askjeeves.com. If you are serious about finding a 100% logical explanation, these links should start you well on your way.

The JREF board is not a technical discussion board. Technical answers to questions you have about compression algorithms and the artifacts in the images they create are best addressed in a more appropriate discussion board. You can find these, too, by spending a few minutes on a good search engine site like askjeeves.com or google.com.

When you take this to court, you can bet your bottom dollar that your opponents will have done this kind of search. You might as well do it too.

LightPiercingDarkness
3rd January 2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Beleth

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg-faq/
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/

I found these after spending 15 seconds on askjeeves.com. If you are serious about finding a 100% logical explanation, these links should start you well on your way.

The JREF board is not a technical discussion board. Technical answers to questions you have about compression algorithms and the artifacts in the images they create are best addressed in a more appropriate discussion board. You can find these, too, by spending a few minutes on a good search engine site like askjeeves.com or google.com.

When you take this to court, you can bet your bottom dollar that your opponents will have done this kind of search. You might as well do it too.






I looked at all the information you found.

In no place does it directly respond to the "faces" or the "three socket face pattern"...........This is a fact.

I have a very clear understanding of "all" that you "think" you are trying to make me understand. I wish you could say the same of me.

After examining your information....I say....."so what". You've done no more then explain why there are bad pictures under certain formats. Did you ever stop to consider that it is the "bad" that is actually allowing the discovery? (which I do find ironic).


So again.........I say to all of you.............

"NEVER" ..........SINCE I'VE BEEN COMMING TO THIS FORUM.........HAS ANYONE LOGICALLY EXPLAINED THE FACES/3 SOCKET FACE PATTERNS..........."NEVER".


WHEN WILL YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS........

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""IF""""""""""""""""""""IT""""""""""""""""WAS NOT A REPEATED PATTERN"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

""""""""I'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''WOULD AGREE WITH YOU""""""""

DON'T ANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND?
THERE ARE NO PATTERNS IN CHAOS.

BY YOUR OWN "LACK" OF INTELLIGENT RESPONSEs.....YOU ONLY CONTINUE TO SHOW......THAT I AM RIGHT.


(SMILES)

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
3rd January 2004, 05:13 PM
I can show in a repeatable circumstances ....each picture....showing faces/3socket face patterns (I am only referring to this in generic terms..right now).


That is saying.......with each picture you can clearly see repeatable face patterns........each having the same "attributes" with minor exceptions to expressions and head structure.

""""""""" IF """"""""""


During any of these searches when looking......it only happened in one out of ten pictures.........I might agree with you.

If it only happened in 1 out of 5 pictures........I might agree with you.


"""""""""""BUT"""""""""


When it happens over and over again in sequence....its not random.........

You guys really that stupid, that you don't understand this?


Lyndale

Kopji
3rd January 2004, 06:10 PM
You guys really that stupid, that you don't understand this?


Nobody sees anything. I'd be a little more introspective about calling us stupid after over 15 pages of posts. Your lack of responsiveness to reasoning leads me to strongly suspect some sort of mental illness or physical brain damage.

Have you considered getting an exam to see if you have a tumor or other brain anomaly? Also, internal eye damage can cause these delusions. "See a doctor".

Good luck, am concerned about your health.

Paladin
3rd January 2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I can show in a repeatable circumstances ....each picture....showing faces/3socket face patterns (I am only referring to this in generic terms..right now).

That is saying.......with each picture you can clearly see repeatable face patterns........each having the same "attributes" with minor exceptions to expressions and head structure.

""""""""" IF """"""""""

During any of these searches when looking......it only happened in one out of ten pictures.........I might agree with you.

If it only happened in 1 out of 5 pictures........I might agree with you.


"""""""""""BUT"""""""""

When it happens over and over again in sequence....its not random.........

You guys really that stupid, that you don't understand this?

Lyndale
It's you who lacks understanding.

Because of the limits of the compression algorithm, patterns will repeat. You've become good at picking out a pattern that you think is a face. While some may agree that the pattern looks like a face, it's still just an arrangement of pixels determined by the algorithm.

You have presented no evidence that any of these so-called faces are what you claim they are. That is a matter of your own belief, and it does not qualify as a legitimate claim to the JREF Challenge.

It is not up to anyone to explain anything to your satisfaction. That, as the past 15 pages illustrates, is a futile task. In my opinion, all you want is an excuse to preach at and insult people.

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Ohrryp

It's you who lacks understanding.

Because of the limits of the compression algorithm, patterns will repeat. You've become good at picking out a pattern that you think is a face. While some may agree that the pattern looks like a face, it's still just an arrangement of pixels determined by the algorithm.

You have presented no evidence that any of these so-called faces are what you claim they are. That is a matter of your own belief, and it does not qualify as a legitimate claim to the JREF Challenge.

It is not up to anyone to explain anything to your satisfaction. That, as the past 15 pages illustrates, is a futile task. In my opinion, all you want is an excuse to preach at and insult people.


"...all you ...and insult..."

You have alot of nerve. Why don't you take a tally and read this whole thread and see who has insulted who the most.

I can show 1000 pictures.
Each covered in the "same" "general" faces.
Each containing eye and mouth sockets.
Most (depending on clarity) containing head structure and facial expressions.


This is not random and its not something the mind is designed to make up either.


Lyndale

Prolix
4th January 2004, 11:01 AM
Lyndale,

Remind me again, what is the significance of the faces? How will your discovery affect us, in the next decades that most of us will be alive? Will your revelation affect us in any way different than the previous revelations of the Bible, which we've had for a millenium and a half?

As far as I can tell the only manifest result would be if you got the million dollars. Do you see any other possible consequences of your discovery of the faces? As you know, the social benefits of
Geller' discovery and exploitation of paranormal spoon bending have produced major changes in the well-being of the human race, so can we expect the same from you?

The Central Scrutinizer
4th January 2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Kopji

Have you considered getting an exam to see if you have a tumor or other brain anomaly?

/Start Arnold

It's not a toomah.

/End Arnold

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Prolix
Lyndale,

Remind me again, what is the significance of the faces? How will your discovery affect us, in the next decades that most of us will be alive? Will your revelation affect us in any way different than the previous revelations of the Bible, which we've had for a millenium and a half?

As far as I can tell the only manifest result would be if you got the million dollars. Do you see any other possible consequences of your discovery of the faces? As you know, the social benefits of
Geller' discovery and exploitation of paranormal spoon bending have produced major changes in the well-being of the human race, so can we expect the same from you?



I believe that God has allowed man to know this now, for 2 reasons.

1. God revealed evil unto us. Reasons? maybe to say...Hey, I even showed you the evil and gave you one last chance to know me. In other words....its like mans last chance. But please don't forget, there is only one path to our Father and that is by His Son, not by any pictures. I know that kinda sounds contradictory, but I still think that this is 1 reason of "why". Many ask for proof, maybe this is one of His answers.




2. That the Rapture is very very soon (very very very soon).


To be honest about the money.

I've come to the point in my life, that my main priority in comming here has become to help you see. Not the money.
For kicks....even If I did get it. I'd give it to the poor. I don't see how our world lets children die starving. Makes no sense. Then there are those who say....'will why don't God do something?.....I say...you bunch of whinny babies "why don't you do something"?
Maybe God does......maybe He convicts "many" hearts, but maybe "many" hearts don't care and find it easier to blame God.

My God what has become of us?
We're a fat nation...who for convience sake, kills babies.

He's comming and He's comming soon and there will be no excuses in the end, that will justify your actions of denying His Son, in your lives.

Jesus did not die in vain.
God will be true to His promises of Hell.

May God Keep you in His care.

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 02:50 PM
You know why people here and else where loath me?


For people to accept this (according to my terms of what they are), that means, that they must re-think their standing of God and re examin their lives. It's been easy up to now..to be able to justify their actions/sins. Now if there is something to "all" of it, they must think of the consequences of what they do. Let's face it ...sin is a "good" feeling (for the moment), that no one wants to let go of or even change their lives for that fact. But God says in the end all sin leads to death and an eternal seperation from God.


But don't worry.

In the end, once people accept that these faces are. People will divide themselves into.......they are aliens or they are demons. The world will say aliens and the christians will say demons. So once again people like you who were so close in seeing truth..will once more be blinded to ..."oh we've been invaded, "look martha..aliens". "those stupid christians".

When the rapture happens and it will. Do you know what the devil has planned for it? You know, his quick fix to fool man? I can tell you what it will be. It will be these faces. It will be people screaming the aliens did it and the major chaos it will cause will be enough to finally form a one world goverment and a cause for a one world finacial market............the "mark".

I feel sorry for you guys and people like you.
Even in the end God say's He will cause strong delusion to come over people like you ...to believe in the anti christ. Why you say?
Maybe His thinking is..........you just dont deserve it.

I'd say good luck.......but you know what? It wounldn't help.


May God keep you in His care.

Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 02:55 PM
Flip side of the coin.

I rather like that expression.


I think I like applying it to this the best.


Sin is "feel good moments". It can be very satisfying and leave you feeling quite content.
This is what the 'unsaved know.

Now the flip side of this is....
When your doing has God says and being the person God wants you to be. There is a GREATER JOY THEN THE OTHER SIDE THAT I JUST REFERRED TO. This side hardly no one ever tells you .


Has happy as you think you are now and content with what you are.

The JOY IS GREATER AND LIFE IS FULLER WITH GOD THEN WITHOUT HIM.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 03:05 PM
We are God's greatest creation, according to Him. He say's He knows every hair on our head and every hurt in our heart. His creation was corrupted by satan. God formed us. satan deformed us. Jesus reformed us.

God loved us enough to find a "fix". A fix that was has great as the problem.
Is fix is His Son.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jesus told nicodemus that a man must be born again of the spirit. Jesus said.."I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE, NO man COMMETH TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME".

Jesus is the only path to know my Father. Your creator. Yes, He is my Father and maybe I am your last pitful chance of someone telling you about it. Who knows.
This I do know.
Jesus did not die in vain and God will be true to all His promises concerning those who deny His Son.

Please...Oh please, don't let evil blind you.

Faith is not empty. God is and He does love you.


Lyndale

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 03:10 PM
Gotta go.
Later.

Lyndale

The Central Scrutinizer
4th January 2004, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Gotta go.
Later.

Lyndale

The voices telling you to leave?

DarkMagician
4th January 2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
You know why people here and else where loath me?


For people to accept this (according to my terms of what they are), that means, that they must re-think their standing of God and re examin their lives. It's been easy up to now..to be able to justify their actions/sins. Now if there is something to "all" of it, they must think of the consequences of what they do. Let's face it ...sin is a "good" feeling (for the moment), that no one wants to let go of or even change their lives for that fact. But God says in the end all sin leads to death and an eternal seperation from God.


But don't worry.

In the end, once people accept that these faces are. People will divide themselves into.......they are aliens or they are demons. The world will say aliens and the christians will say demons. So once again people like you who were so close in seeing truth..will once more be blinded to ..."oh we've been invaded, "look martha..aliens". "those stupid christians".

When the rapture happens and it will. Do you know what the devil has planned for it? You know, his quick fix to fool man? I can tell you what it will be. It will be these faces. It will be people screaming the aliens did it and the major chaos it will cause will be enough to finally form a one world goverment and a cause for a one world finacial market............the "mark".

I feel sorry for you guys and people like you.
Even in the end God say's He will cause strong delusion to come over people like you ...to believe in the anti christ. Why you say?
Maybe His thinking is..........you just dont deserve it.

I'd say good luck.......but you know what? It wounldn't help.


May God keep you in His care.

Lyndale http://gameshow.keenspace.com/images/nutri_facts.jpg

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 05:19 PM
Its easy to see who will be on what side.

Lyndale

Kopji
4th January 2004, 05:37 PM
Lyndale
Is that you Vicon?

Prolix
4th January 2004, 05:49 PM
Lyndale,

Thank you for a straight answer to my question as to the significance of the faces.

I've always pushed you to be a man of your word and to pursue the lawsuit you'd promised, thinking that your credibility could be salvaged if, for a change, you actually acted on your beliefs. But now that I realize your concerns for the fate of mankind so far outweigh any need you may have for personal standing or credibility on this forum, I can see that my pressing you may be hurtful to you, or at best my distract you from dealing with God and the problem-of-evil. Therefore I release you from your promises about the suit. I know you will also understand why I also withdraw my offer to assist the suit financially.

I wish you good fortune in the future.

Kopji
4th January 2004, 06:21 PM
I hope I'm not violating any rules by taking a moment to offer readers a chance to purchase a stylish Kopji-Inc(c) Tinfoil Hat (shown below). Be the talk of your neighborhood now.

These come in Small, Medium, or Large and can be embrodered with the religious symbol of your choice.

Please press here on your display [ ] to place an order.
(I will just know)

The Central Scrutinizer
4th January 2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Kopji
I hope I'm not violating any rules by taking a moment to offer readers a chance to purchase a stylish Kopji-Inc(c) Tinfoil Hat (shown below). Be the talk of your neighborhood now.

These come in Small, Medium, or Large and can be embrodered with the religious symbol of your choice.

Please press here on your display [ ] to place an order.
(I will just know)

What size am I???

Kopji
4th January 2004, 07:59 PM
TCS
heh heh heh, "the right size of course"

Vicon was a poster on [the dog forum] a few years ago with a very unique perspective on reality. I started out at first hating the guy, but ended up collecting all his evidence and postings on the end of the world, he'd carefully calculated to be year 2012. Maybe I'll share them sometime.

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 09:42 PM
Your an amazing bunch.

There have always been 2 issues at hand since this thread has started.

1. Are the faces real?

and

2. If so, what/who are they?

Since this thread has started your only reply to 1. has been ...the brain seeks these things out. You act like I am so stupid that I don't understand what your saying (this of course is based on all those pleasant replies). Yet your understanding of what your saying is lacking. Lacking in addressing the perfect repetitive patterns. All you do is keep babbling ...this is what the brain does....this is what the brain does. I wonder...does your brain not question anything? Does your brains not wonder why these faces contain expressions and facial features? Does your brains not wonder why they hold their shapes when viewed on live video?


Has I 've said......since the beginning...your responses to these questions are at best ........lame attempts to pretend that you know something.

Those faces are there they hold their shapes in live video and they have eyes and mouth sockets. Facial features, head structures and they move during live video.

None of you have ever nor will ever have a logical explanation...you have proved that over and over again.

You know?

If youd of said....oh there just over lapping images of other formats or something of that nature..you might of had at best at least a small arguement. But you know what.........bottom line is.........none of you are even close.

You see them and it drives you nuts becasue you can't understand them. But hey...dam my opinion, uh? Call me what you will. In the end, you'll see.

And I do promise...when the videos come out and I prove I am right.......you have my word.......I will come back in here and rub your snub noses in it has deep has I can. Ohh I promise that.

Blind Oxymorons...your no different from the athiests...you don't look for truth. You avoid it.


Lyndale

Hannibal
4th January 2004, 10:10 PM
Wrong Lyndale.

There have been several issues at stake here. In addition to the two you have identified there are:

3. Is Lyndale deluded or mentally ill?

4. Is Lyndale a Troll?

5. Whay does Lyndale make assertions but provide no evidence outside of his own interpretation/perception?

6. Why cannot Lyndale accept even the possibility he may be in error?

7. Why will Lyndale never debate? He will assert, stamp, pout and accuse but never with any degree of structure

8. If the messages are real why can only Lyndale see them? What makes him so special?

9. In light of (8) above, why would the demons/faces only contact an insignificant individual to challenge him/tempt him/annoy him?

10. What do they actually do? Just move? Way to terrorise humanity there Lucifer.......

Lyndale you are not here for any other reason than your own amusement or to perpetuate your own delusions and illness. You will not debate nor have you sought solace from within your own religion and spoken to a vicar/priest/preacher. Anything that does not agree with you is evil and you make empty appeals to a God that most here do not care about or even believe in. With nothing further to back up any claim you make it is apparent you havenothing valuable to contribute. Steve Grenard, whilst many dislike him, will provoke thought and discussion. You provoke irritation.

If you are going to sue do it. Don't threaten, imply or suggest - get off you worthless backside and do something with your life. Otherwise let the silence of obscurity welcome you back with open arms.

LightPiercingDarkness
4th January 2004, 10:24 PM
Has I said...

...you dont look for truth, you avoid it.

Even if it means trying to hurt others while you do it.



Lyndale

Beleth
5th January 2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I looked at all the information you found.

In no place does it directly respond to the "faces" or the "three socket face pattern"...........This is a fact.Did you look at other thousands of documents that search engines find on this subject, or did you just look at the two I specifically mentioned? Did you find a good JPEG technical discussion board, like I suggested you do?

I have a very clear understanding of "all" that you "think" you are trying to make me understand.No, you do not. You think you do but you really, truly do not.

After examining your information....I say....."so what". You've done no more then explain why there are bad pictures under certain formats. Did you ever stop to consider that it is the "bad" that is actually allowing the discovery? (which I do find ironic).The faces are an artifact of the compression algorithm. The way I heard it explained is that the JPEG compression algorithm splits up a picture into little squares, determines the two most prevalent colors in each square, varies the saturation values of those two hues along the edges of the square, and sets the internal pixel values according to the values of the edges.

Which is way too technical, so here's an analogy.

Think of each square as a big bedsheet, with people holding the sheet along the edges and waving it up and down at various heights and speeds. The middle of the sheet will be at all sorts of weird heights, but each of those heights will have been determined by the motions of the people along the edges. If you map the heights to color values, you will have the JPEG square.


So again.........I say to all of you.............

"NEVER" ..........SINCE I'VE BEEN COMMING TO THIS FORUM.........HAS ANYONE LOGICALLY EXPLAINED THE FACES/3 SOCKET FACE PATTERNS..........."NEVER".All sorts of patterns get formed by the JPEG compression algorithm. One that appears a lot looks to me like the periodic table. Another one starts almost white in one corner, very dark in the opposite corner, and slowly grades from one extreme to the other in neat rows. It is not unexpected that patterns would emerge, and that those patterns would not only be repeatable in theory, but actually repeated in reality.


WHEN WILL YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS........

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""IF""""""""""""""""""""IT""""""""""""""""WAS NOT A REPEATED PATTERN"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

""""""""I'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''WOULD AGREE WITH YOU""""""""

DON'T ANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND?
THERE ARE NO PATTERNS IN CHAOS.The JPEG compression algorithm can by no means considered "chaos". It is actually order of digital precision. Much like Conway's game of Life.

Beleth
5th January 2004, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Does your brains not wonder why these faces contain expressions and facial features?Yes. Of course. But the answer to this question is that the JPEG compression algorithm creates patterns that our brains interpret as faces. The answer to this question is not that the faces are demons.

Does your brains not wonder why they hold their shapes when viewed on live video?My brain has no evidence that this is true, so no, my brain does not wonder about why this is true.

Hannibal
5th January 2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Has I said...

...you dont look for truth, you avoid it.

Even if it means trying to hurt others while you do it.



Lyndale

Great answer Lyndale! Must have really tested your brainpower to come up with THAT particularly well reasoned retort. How can I doubt the word of a man who clearly has such a firm grasp on the intricacies of debate and logic. I would take my hat off but it fell from my head as I bowed to your superior debating skills.

I feel a song coming on......

TROLL,TROLL,TROLL,TROLL.........

ahhhhh! much better!

The Central Scrutinizer
5th January 2004, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Your an amazing bunch.

There have always been 2 issues at hand since this thread has started.



1) Is Lyndale an idiot

or

2) Is Lyndale schizophrenic?

I think it has been established to be #2. If we are wrong on that, then it is #1. Neither outcome is good for Lyndale.

Kopji
5th January 2004, 10:26 PM
For the rest of us who do not understand the complexity of jpeg compression issues... The code box below demonstrates how easily our minds can create images that are just not really there.
Unlike the faces, there IS a specific image contained in the text. It is created in your head though.

This is regular 'typewriter text', no weird tricks or graphics. It sometimes takes a little training to see the images, but everyone should eventually see four squares.

Stereograms are made in a similar manner that data compression algorithms work. Natural processes of erosion could also duplicate this effect, perhaps causing a 'supernatural 3d image' to appear on a natural surface.


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8901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456
8901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456
8901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456
890123456890123456890A123456890A123456890A1234568
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890123456890123456890A12345680A12345680A1B2345680
890123456890123456890A12345680A12345680A1B2345680
8901234568901234568012345680123A45680123AB4568012
8901234567890123456901234569012A34569012AB3456901
8901234567890123456901234569012A34569012AB3456901
8901234567890123456901234569012AB34569012AB345690
8901234567890234567902345679023AB45679023AB456790
8901234567890234567890234A567890234A567890234A567
8901234567890234567890234A567890234A567890234A567
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8901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456
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This grid contains four 3-D squares.
Making Random Dot Stereograms pg 55
Bob Hankinson, Alfonso Hermida - Que Publishing 1994
(cropped to fit JREF code box limits - k)

Charlie in Dayton
6th January 2004, 02:44 PM
Once again, this thread has degenerated from scientific discussion to a camp revival meeting. Scientific evidence of the existence of these faces has been presented, and we are all pretty much in agreement as to the fact that there's something there. The debate now is, what are they? We say computer artifacts. Lyndale says paranormal beings. We have presented our scientific proofs as to why we see faces in various scenarios. Lyndale trumpets that he's "refuted" our arguments numerous times.

paraphrased from www.dictionary.com: (http://www.dictionary.com)
refute: To disprove and overthrow by argument, evidence, or countervailing proof; to prove to be false or erroneous...

Key word in the above is proof. Injecting religion into the proceedings requires an act of faith. Faith is not proof. The opposition points have not been refuted.

Lyndale, just what evidence would it take to convince you that your views on this are in error? This is a critical question. What would you need to convince you?

LightPiercingDarkness
6th January 2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Charlie in Dayton
Once again, this thread has degenerated from scientific discussion to a camp revival meeting. Scientific evidence of the existence of these faces has been presented, and we are all pretty much in agreement as to the fact that there's something there. The debate now is, what are they? We say computer artifacts. Lyndale says paranormal beings. We have presented our scientific proofs as to why we see faces in various scenarios. Lyndale trumpets that he's "refuted" our arguments numerous times.

paraphrased from www.dictionary.com: (http://www.dictionary.com)
refute: To disprove and overthrow by argument, evidence, or countervailing proof; to prove to be false or erroneous...

Key word in the above is proof. Injecting religion into the proceedings requires an act of faith. Faith is not proof. The opposition points have not been refuted.



Lyndale, just what evidence would it take to convince you that your views on this are in error? This is a critical question. What would you need to convince you?




Bottom lines, Bottom lines.

I like this charlie. This is your best response.
I will diffently get back to you.

Lyndale

xouper
7th January 2004, 02:35 AM
Kopji: Vicon was a poster on [the dog forum] a few years ago with a very unique perspective on reality. I started out at first hating the guy, but ended up collecting all his evidence and postings on the end of the world, he'd carefully calculated to be year 2012.GOD has apparently confirmed that Vicon is right about the year, here in this thread:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32522

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:09 PM
I am going to start posting different pictures. Adjust your monitors brightness button at 'different levels for better clarity.

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:10 PM
pic 2

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:12 PM
pic3

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:13 PM
pic4

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:14 PM
pic5

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:16 PM
pic6

LightPiercingDarkness
7th January 2004, 10:22 PM
These 6 pictures were taken in a row.

In each of the backrounds, mostly in shades of green, you will find faces. Some will be in plain view. Some will over lap others. Some you can clearly see facial feature and head structure.

If you adjust your monitors "brightness button" and look carefully in the shades of "green" you will see them.

Your crazy to think those faces aren't real.

Every so often I am going to come here and post pictures.

Let's play show and tell (smiles).

Lyndale

The Central Scrutinizer
7th January 2004, 10:30 PM
OMGF!!!! I see demons!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! SAVE ME JEEBUS!!!

joyrex
8th January 2004, 12:38 AM
Looks like goatse in a darkroom to me.

Hannibal
8th January 2004, 01:29 AM
Oh for God's sake...Lyndale this is laughable.

The pictures show me NOTHING. They show everyone else I've shown them to NOTHING. I will 100% guarantee that if I showed them to a local vicar they would see NOTHING - and he is a damn sight closer to your God than you are sunshine!

"If you adjust the brightness, twiddle with the colour, squint, poke yourself in the eye and drink a pint a scotch then you can probably see the faces" - does not mean they are real though.

Oh, but I "do not want to see the truth"...Yes I do. You know nothing about my beliefs or lack thereof - you assume. You arrogant sod. Don't dare to presume you are spritually superior to ANYONE on this board. How is society better off by your existence? How have you helped your fellow man one iota?

Oh yes, by posting meaningless blocks of digital noise and saying it looks like a face. What a truly useful contribution. Do they speak? Do they do anything? NO! They are spectacularly useless - more to the point they don't even exist except on your own mind.

You have proven nothing here and have stuck your fingers in your ears and gone "la,la,la,la...not listening" to every single explaination or challenge. Why bother then? Why not go to a board where your pleas will fall on fertile ground? Why choose a skeptic (tm) board?

Because Sir, you are a T-R-O-L-L....your posts have no merit, your arguments are weak and you exist only to attract criticism and response. I have seen 8 year olds with better debating skills, and that is not an exaggeration for comic effect.

Oh I am sure that you will post a reply saying I am blind, or that "We shall see (smile)", but the fact remains you are little more than an idiot. Sorry to be rude....well actually no I'm not. You ARE an idiot to be so closed and blind to the evidence placed before you which have nullified the claims you make.

DarkMagician
8th January 2004, 06:50 AM
Look, if someone sneaks red plastic over my camera, and I look through it, things look either red or black.
Does that mean the world is red and black? NO!

If I use black and white film, does that mean the film is in black and white? NO!

If I see a mustache drawn on a recent photo of a mustache-less person, does that mean that the person now has a mustache in real-life? NO!

Look, just because the compression program makes you see "faces" doesn't mean that they are actual faces, let alone faces of the fallen. I can get these faces without even using a real photo. A drawing in MSPaint saved as a JPEG produces similar results!

Stop presenting your delusions as fact before you hurt yourself!

roger
8th January 2004, 07:05 AM
I still wonder what you think about this image.

LightPiercingDarkness
8th January 2004, 07:15 AM
Someone should be carefull they dont pop a blood vessl.

Must really urk you to no end, knowing your little world you built around you isn't all you thought it was.


So you just keep spouting and remember no matter how far you travel down that 'wrong path...Jesus is still waiting.

God loves you

Lyndale

DarkMagician
8th January 2004, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Someone should be carefull they dont pop a blood vessl.

Must really urk you to no end, knowing your little world you built around you isn't all you thought it was.


So you just keep spouting and remember no matter how far you travel down that 'wrong path...Jesus is still waiting.

God loves you

Lyndale Oh great, "poisoning the well" again.
Don't you have some books to burn?

Lothian
8th January 2004, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
These 6 pictures were taken in a row.

In each of the backrounds, mostly in shades of green, you will find faces. Some will be in plain view. Some will over lap others. Some you can clearly see facial feature and head structure.

If you adjust your monitors "brightness button" and look carefully in the shades of "green" you will see them.

Your crazy to think those faces aren't real.

Every so often I am going to come here and post pictures.

Let's play show and tell (smiles).

Lyndale Fantastic Lyndale but those are not demons faces, If you look above to the left and right of each bright area you will clearly see buttocks. They are clearly pictures of the light shining out of someones ass. I have heard the expression but never seen proof.

Thanks

Hannibal
8th January 2004, 08:15 AM
I must be psychic! I predicted yet another "quality" Lyndale response and Lo and behold it appears!

Lyndale you have still proven nothing. It must irk YOU no end to know that the world as you know it is a paranoid delusion. You have been proven to be incorrect countless times so have your faces (or should that read "faeces" because that is about the size of it).

The myth of Jesus is an inferior manifestation of the Dionysian mysteries in existence CENTURIES before he walked this earth and no amount of bible thumping will ever change that. Jesus may have existed, but he certainly was not what he is now believed to be. Have you met him in person? Have you talked to him and heard him reply? Somehow I doubt it. If God will not save the people of Iran I very much doubt he will talk to a fruitcake like you. Once again you will give a small reply with pseudo-mystic and Xian overtures but you are still nothing more than a troll.

How about proving me wrong and producing soem evidence that does not require a hallucinogen or mental instability to see it?

NoZed Avenger
8th January 2004, 08:23 AM
In the house I moved into not too long ago, I have noticed that one bathroom has a (very light) floral print wallpaper. After examining it, I can see faces in the wallpaper pattern. These faces are repeated and can be clearly pointed out -- my wife agrees.

Have the demons taken over my bathroom?

What can I do?

N/A

Lothian
8th January 2004, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by NoZed Avenger
In the house I moved into not too long ago, I have noticed that one bathroom has a (very light) floral print wallpaper. After examining it, I can see faces in the wallpaper pattern. These faces are repeated and can be clearly pointed out -- my wife agrees.

Have the demons taken over my bathroom?

What can I do?

N/A I think you are talking rubbish. It is a ludicrous claim,. Your wife agrees with you ! pah.

Charlie in Dayton
8th January 2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness

Bottom lines, Bottom lines.

I like this charlie. This is your best response.
I will diffently get back to you.

Lyndale

Bottom line, those pictures you posted are not responsive to the questions I asked you.

I ask again:
Lyndale, just what evidence would it take to convince you that your views on this are in error? This is a critical question. What would you need to convince you?

Rolfe
9th January 2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Charlie in Dayton
I ask again:
Lyndale, just what evidence would it take to convince you that your views on this are in error? This is a critical question. What would you need to convince you? It does worry me, though, continuing this sort of argument with someone who probably has a serious mental illness. You can't argue such people out of their fixed irrational beliefs, and you risk making their condition significantly worse.

Rolfe.

NoZed Avenger
9th January 2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Lothian
I think you are talking rubbish. It is a ludicrous claim,. Your wife agrees with you ! pah.

Hey - its the only thing that she DOES agree with me on -- paranormal!

You are just blind to the trvth -- they are in the wallpaper, but you are afraid to paint.

N/A

LightPiercingDarkness
10th January 2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Charlie in Dayton


Bottom line, those pictures you posted are not responsive to the questions I asked you.

I ask again:
Lyndale, just what evidence would it take to convince you that your views on this are in error? This is a critical question. What would you need to convince you?


It would take....


For me to not be able to see them holding their image in...."live broadcast videos".

It would take....


For me to not be able to see them in "hundreds" of pictures, that are taken in a "row". For me to not be able to see these hundreads of pictures all containing the same head structures with expressions and eye sockets and mouth sockets.

None of the above, can any of you change. Fact.

You've done a grand job of trying to convince me that it is this or that. I bow in your presistance.

But the bottom line folks is....


It is impossible to take 100 pictures in a row (1-100). Each containing the "exact" same faces ("exact" being interpret... The All have the same..........."EYE" and "MOUTH" SOCKETS.
All have the same..........."HEAD STRUCTURES".
All have the same..........."FACIAL FEATURES".
All display ......................."EXPRESSIONS"...EACH UNIQUE TO ITSELF.


THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! YET IT IS HAPPENING!!!


IS THERE NO ONE IN THIS CHAT ROOM OF ANY INTELLIGENCE AT ALL, THAT UNDERSTANDS THE ........"""""ODDS""""" OF THIS????

Just because "some" are vague and some may overlapp each other.....doesn't mean they aren't. Look very closely...look in the shades of green.......they are there.........and many of you have acknowledge this.

The odd's of all of this comming together and producing what is being produced........is astronomical. (you can't even callculate them)

Wake up.


Lyndale

DarkMagician
10th January 2004, 09:56 PM
I'll say this again:
If someone sneaks red plastic over my camera, and I look through it, things look either red or black, this does NOT mean that the world is in red and black!

If I use black and white film, this does NOT mean that the world is black and white!

If I see a mustache drawn on a recent photo of a mustache-less person, that does NOT mean that the person now has a mustache in real life!

Just because the compression program makes you see "faces" doesn't mean that they are actual faces, let alone faces of the fallen. I can get these faces without even using a real photo. A drawing in MSPaint saved as a JPEG produces similar results!

I repeat, stop presenting your delusions as fact before you hurt yourself!

LightPiercingDarkness
10th January 2004, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by DarkMagician
I'll say this again:
If someone sneaks red plastic over my camera, and I look through it, things look either red or black, this does NOT mean that the world is in red and black!

If I use black and white film, this does NOT mean that the world is black and white!

If I see a mustache drawn on a recent photo of a mustache-less person, that does NOT mean that the person now has a mustache in real life!

Just because the compression program makes you see "faces" doesn't mean that they are actual faces, let alone faces of the fallen. I can get these faces without even using a real photo. A drawing in MSPaint saved as a JPEG produces similar results!

I repeat, stop presenting your delusions as fact before you hurt yourself!


prove what your saying and lets compare
Lyndale

DarkMagician
10th January 2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
prove what your saying and lets compare
Lyndale You first.

I'm not the one making the claim of the supernatural. My explanations fall under Occam's Razor.

If you want to prove your assertions, the burden of proof is all on you!

Hannibal
11th January 2004, 03:43 AM
Lyndale, read carefully what I say...

"PROOF" in this instance is not what it takes to convince YOU these "faces" are real, it is what it takes to convince OTHERS that the faces are real. Do you understand?

You can talk about odds (by the way, if they all have the same features that is far more suggestive of a jpeg compression issue), the way to view them and what you think they are all you want - that is enough for you. But you have failed - quite spectacularly I might add - to prove ANYTHING to anyone else on these boards that makes them think you are seeing anything other than an illusion.

You say "I see therefore they are". If you believe this logic you must also accept "We don't see, therefore they aren't". Give it up because all we have now is a stalemate. We can't convince you because you do not want to believe they are mundane and we do not believe you because you cannot show any evidence.

I wish you well and may your god walk with you.

Bahala Na!

Jeff Wagg
11th January 2004, 07:56 AM
If nothing else, this "thread" is providing an interesting insight into belief. There's nothing anyone can do to persuade Lyndale that he's seeing something perfectly ordinary an explainable.

I saw a grinning skull in my bathroom tile this morning. I never saw it before, but I'm sure that I saw it today. If I wanted to, I could swear up and down that it was there, and that the chances of that particular image appearing there are so astronomical that there must be some MEANING behind it.

And there in lies the rub. What is it in Lyndale that needs to find meaning in mundance objects. If he stops believing, his life loses meaning. That's a pretty high price to pay. What do we (skeptics) have to offer in return?

I have to admit that my life would be far more interesting if that skull I saw was a message from some unrested piratical spirit who wishes me to uncover his lost gold (and of course, there is hidden pirate treasure in my part of the country). Perhaps I should seek it out..I've been given the key..I'm special. It's all up to me....those who don't believe me are fools..they're after my treasure, or they simply don't want me to be happy. How can they NOT see it? It's right there in front of them??

HEYRE THER BE DRAGGONS

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 02:59 PM
Whatever you say.

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 03:02 PM
Surrrrre.

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 03:05 PM
1

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 03:06 PM
uh ya

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 03:08 PM
alter your brightness button on your monitor

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 03:10 PM
B. O.

Charlie in Dayton
11th January 2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Surrrrre.
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=1870269366


Does anyone else see a two-digit number in dark blue against light blue in the general center of this photograph?

Incidentally, LPD, you've dodged the question. I didn't ask what it would take you not to see them. I asked what it would take for you to believe that your evaluation of them as demons/living beings is in error.

As has been said before, everyone here's pretty much in agreement as to 'yes, there's something there'. The point now is, what are they? There's where we disagree.

Pyrrho
11th January 2004, 05:28 PM
If you want the faces to go away, stop looking at the pictures.

LightPiercingDarkness
11th January 2004, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Charlie in Dayton


Does anyone else see a two-digit number in dark blue against light blue in the general center of this photograph?

Incidentally, LPD, you've dodged the question. I didn't ask what it would take you not to see them. I asked what it would take for you to believe that your evaluation of them as demons/living beings is in error.

As has been said before, everyone here's pretty much in agreement as to 'yes, there's something there'. The point now is, what are they? There's where we disagree.


"Incidentally, LPD, you've dodged the question. I didn't ask what it would take you not to see them. I asked what it would take for you to believe that your evaluation of them as demons/living beings is in error."

Same answer still.




"As has been said before, everyone here's pretty much in agreement as to 'yes, there's something there'. The point now is, what are they? There's where we disagree".



Well, I say faces and you say static, digital recall, noise etc...

Would appear to be at a stand still.

Your all right. I will never back down to this. Has amazing as it is. Those are faces. I've seen things, that you wouldn't believe, "while" observing these faces. I can't make any of you change your mind in what you "think". But you look hard and you look deep in those shades of green...they're there and theres lots of em...You know what ..I was thinking the other day...why none of you have asked me....why in the water would there be faces? What point would there be for them to be there?...

I don't think anyone has ever addressed that.

I'd like to.


I believe that between here and there (here being here and there being any place other then here, thrue the internet) this process is capturing time at different points of origin.
Did you get that?

Play devils advocate.

Those pictures are of the lochness when their cam was up. Obviously they/faces would have no point in being to be just hovering below the water. So then where do they come from?

It has to be between here and there. Everything that is passing thrue the net is leaving a trail that the cam process is picking up. It works the same with the cams at home, that are not going thrue the net (just to the monitor).

Anyway...this is why those faces are overlapping and blending into eachother. I believe if there was a filter that was designed to adjust this "feature of graphics"..you could show them in lessed puzzled clarity. Clearer.

I've sat at home in the evening. With lights located at different points of origin in the room. Had a regular computer cam turned on and pointed at different points of the room. I altered the lightening has I observed these different points and also adjusted the cams options.

...and at differnt times in certain conditions.......there they were....looking around and watching. Has Casual has a shadow they're there. Don't believe it? Try it, you'll see.

You know how I look at all of this?




It's something like a horse race.

You know how it usually ends? To late.


I figure, by the time there is acceptance in this and we get passed the "now what are they"....it won't matter no more. Because like a thief in the night, He said He was comming.

I've sat here intensly reading your replies ..your crud comments...your snide remarks.....your deep careing for my well being.................and you know what?

No amount of it will change the fact, it's real. Your like brick walls. Your like those who stood outside the ark has the door was shuting.

Guess what else I learned?

I learned, that even those who do believe this..."they don't really care either".

I really do wonder what the point of it all is sometimes.

I see creation sometimes has a well meant thought gone wrong.

I can't understand sometimes why things are the way they are or will be. I just shake my head.

regardless.


Folks the clock is ticking tic toc tic toc....His Son comes. Your one day closer for knowing for sure.

God, He's always with me. I can feel it. Yes it is a feeling. What feeling you ask? How can I make you understand something you never felt? It's a wonderful fullfilling feeling, one of contentment. Satisfaction. Situations, their endings are different. Having God in your life is a wonderful experiance, that you have to know first hand to appreciate it. Is it not greater to see the wonders of the world then to hear about them.

We're talking about GOD


Try experiancing Him the way He said to. For all the "joy" you "think" you have "now".

It is ten thousand times that with God in your life.





tic toc







Lyndale

!Xx+-Rational-+xX!
11th January 2004, 07:37 PM
Australia and meditation don't exist!

DarkMagician
11th January 2004, 08:45 PM
I can see things, too:

Prolix
11th January 2004, 09:44 PM
quote from Lyndale: "I was thinking the other day...why none of you have asked me....why in the water would there be faces? What point would there be for them to be there?...

Now now Lyndale, you know that is what I asked you the other day. Remember? and then I thanked you for a straight answer, for a change?

Quote from Lyndale: "It's a wonderful fullfilling feeling, one of contentment. Satisfaction."

That's kinda what I meant when I "wished you good fortune in the future". But, if you really do have that wonderful feeling, it certainly doesn't show in your discomfort with the faces, or anywhere else in your desperate writings.

Maybe you need to heed our Lord's words: "Whensoever thou findest thou cannot changeth the world, nor even the Will of thy God, thou shall endeavor to changeth thineself, for the salvation of thy soul begineth with its own health."

The Central Scrutinizer
11th January 2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness

THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! YET IT IS HAPPENING!!!


IS THERE NO ONE IN THIS CHAT ROOM OF ANY INTELLIGENCE AT ALL, THAT UNDERSTANDS THE ........"""""ODDS""""" OF THIS????

Just because "some" are vague and some may overlapp each other.....doesn't mean they aren't. Look very closely...look in the shades of green.......they are there.........and many of you have acknowledge this.

The odd's of all of this comming together and producing what is being produced........is astronomical. (you can't even callculate them)

Wake up.


Lyndale

I have woke up!! I now believe! I see the demons! Will jeebus save me? How much will it cost?

Psi Baba
13th January 2004, 11:41 AM
Come on, Lyndale, quit posting those colonoscopy photos. Get your head out of your ass.

alfaniner
13th January 2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness



"Incidentally, LPD, you've dodged the question. I didn't ask what it would take you not to see them. I asked what it would take for you to believe that your evaluation of them as demons/living beings is in error."

Same answer still.




"As has been said before, everyone here's pretty much in agreement as to 'yes, there's something there'. The point now is, what are they? There's where we disagree".



Well, I say faces and you say static, digital recall, noise etc...

Would appear to be at a stand still.

Your all right. I will never back down to this. Has amazing as it is. Those are faces. I've seen things, that you wouldn't believe, "while" observing these faces. I can't make any of you change your mind in what you "think". But you look hard and you look deep in those shades of green...they're there and theres lots of em...You know what ..I was thinking the other day...why none of you have asked me....why in the water would there be faces? What point would there be for them to be there?...

I don't think anyone has ever addressed that.

I'd like to.


I believe that between here and there (here being here and there being any place other then here, thrue the internet) this process is capturing time at different points of origin.
Did you get that?

Play devils advocate.

Those pictures are of the lochness when their cam was up. Obviously they/faces would have no point in being to be just hovering below the water. So then where do they come from?

It has to be between here and there. Everything that is passing thrue the net is leaving a trail that the cam process is picking up. It works the same with the cams at home, that are not going thrue the net (just to the monitor).

Anyway...this is why those faces are overlapping and blending into eachother. I believe if there was a filter that was designed to adjust this "feature of graphics"..you could show them in lessed puzzled clarity. Clearer.

I've sat at home in the evening. With lights located at different points of origin in the room. Had a regular computer cam turned on and pointed at different points of the room. I altered the lightening has I observed these different points and also adjusted the cams options.

...and at differnt times in certain conditions.......there they were....looking around and watching. Has Casual has a shadow they're there. Don't believe it? Try it, you'll see.

You know how I look at all of this?




It's something like a horse race.

You know how it usually ends? To late.


I figure, by the time there is acceptance in this and we get passed the "now what are they"....it won't matter no more. Because like a thief in the night, He said He was comming.

I've sat here intensly reading your replies ..your crud comments...your snide remarks.....your deep careing for my well being.................and you know what?

No amount of it will change the fact, it's real. Your like brick walls. Your like those who stood outside the ark has the door was shuting.

Guess what else I learned?

I learned, that even those who do believe this..."they don't really care either".

I really do wonder what the point of it all is sometimes.

I see creation sometimes has a well meant thought gone wrong.

I can't understand sometimes why things are the way they are or will be. I just shake my head.

regardless.


Folks the clock is ticking tic toc tic toc....His Son comes. Your one day closer for knowing for sure.

God, He's always with me. I can feel it. Yes it is a feeling. What feeling you ask? How can I make you understand something you never felt? It's a wonderful fullfilling feeling, one of contentment. Satisfaction. Situations, their endings are different. Having God in your life is a wonderful experiance, that you have to know first hand to appreciate it. Is it not greater to see the wonders of the world then to hear about them.

We're talking about GOD


Try experiancing Him the way He said to. For all the "joy" you "think" you have "now".

It is ten thousand times that with God in your life.





tic toc







Lyndale

Debating with this guy is like talking to a brick wall

that has faces in it.

Beleth
13th January 2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Well, I say faces and you say static, digital recall, noise etc...

Would appear to be at a stand still.
Yep. And standstills don't win you the Challenge, and they don't win you legal cases.


I was thinking the other day...why none of you have asked me....why in the water would there be faces? What point would there be for them to be there?...

I don't think anyone has ever addressed that.
That's because we haven't gotten that far yet. To ask why there's a point to the faces, we have to first pass the hurdle that those are real faces, of real beings.

Let me change the object in your question.

Why on electrical outlets would there be faces? What point would there be for them to be there?

Do you see my point? Is your answer to this question the same as your answer to the "water" version of the question? It should be.


In any event, you have made it clear that you are unconvinceable, so I don't see much point in further trying to convince you.

braces_for_impact
13th January 2004, 01:44 PM
Hi all, I'm new here, and just wanted to give you a heads up.

I used to hang out in certain Yahoo chat rooms about three years ago before I discovered a little something called "reasonable discourse."

One of the regulars there was LightPiercingDarkness, who wanted everyone to look at his website. In his website he has a "top secret" video technique which reveals aliens/demons in his basement, in his curtains, etc.

His website has changed, but they're the same pictures. At least some of the more ridiculous assertions were removed from the website.

Anyway, I ramble on...my point you ask?

He's been doing this same thing for at least three years in one place or another.

LPD please seek help, even if you don't think you have a problem, a mental check up doesn't hurt.

Pyrrho
13th January 2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by braces_for_impact
Hi all, I'm new here, and just wanted to give you a heads up.

I used to hang out in certain Yahoo chat rooms about three years ago before I discovered a little something called "reasonable discourse."

One of the regulars there was LightPiercingDarkness, who wanted everyone to look at his website. In his website he has a "top secret" video technique which reveals aliens/demons in his basement, in his curtains, etc.

His website has changed, but they're the same pictures. At least some of the more ridiculous assertions were removed from the website.

Anyway, I ramble on...my point you ask?

He's been doing this same thing for at least three years in one place or another.

LPD please seek help, even if you don't think you have a problem, a mental check up doesn't hurt.
Yeah, he's been here for a while. He's still using the same pictures he lifted from the Loch Ness Cam website, poor fellow.

The Central Scrutinizer
13th January 2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Pyrrho

Yeah, he's been here for a while. He's still using the same pictures he lifted from the Loch Ness Cam website, poor fellow.

I had forgotten about that! So he is a loony toon AND a thief!

Suezoled
14th January 2004, 05:18 AM
This is the real thread that won't die, isn't it..? It just refuses to go away... it just won't go away...

alfaniner
14th January 2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Suezoled
This is the real thread that won't die, isn't it..? It just refuses to go away... it just won't go away...

But I have to say it has been truly educational. Back when I first joined the forum, I was fascinated by the discourse by ICanTakePicuresOfDemons (same guy). I couldn't believe that there was anybody who would believe such a thing. Since then, I've read stuff from many others who made me realize -- there's a lot of kooks out there. And it takes a lot of evidence for me to give someone that appelation.

DarkMagician
14th January 2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Suezoled
This is the real thread that won't die, isn't it..? It just refuses to go away... it just won't go away... *takes deep breath*
This is the thread that never ends!
It just goes on and on my friends!
Some idiot started making it
Not knowing what it was
And people will continue refuting it
Forever just because
This is the thread...

RussDill
14th January 2004, 08:47 AM
I think it's the right thing to do to point out to LightPiercingDarkness, that not only do deamons make themselves visible to cheap digital cameras in poor lighting condition, but they are also ALL OVER YOUR HOUSE!


When your house was built, thousands of demons were trapped in your walls. You can see them if you have textured drywall (florescent lighting helps). Get within about 3 or 4 feet, and they will start popping out at you! And it's not just faces, its ENTIRE DEMONS sometimes. Truly frightening. I have searched for all my demons in my room, and have relocated my bed accordingly. I have to recheck everyday though, because the are constantly on the move!

Suezoled
14th January 2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by DarkMagician
*takes deep breath*
This is the thread that never ends!
It just goes on and on my friends!
Some idiot started making it
Not knowing what it was
And people will continue refuting it
Forever just because
This is the thread...

Hail El Pelleza!

LightPiercingDarkness
14th January 2004, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by braces_for_impact
Hi all, I'm new here, and just wanted to give you a heads up.

I used to hang out in certain Yahoo chat rooms about three years ago before I discovered a little something called "reasonable discourse."

One of the regulars there was LightPiercingDarkness, who wanted everyone to look at his website. In his website he has a "top secret" video technique which reveals aliens/demons in his basement, in his curtains, etc.

His website has changed, but they're the same pictures. At least some of the more ridiculous assertions were removed from the website.

Anyway, I ramble on...my point you ask?

He's been doing this same thing for at least three years in one place or another.

LPD please seek help, even if you don't think you have a problem, a mental check up doesn't hurt.


I see you took my invitation and came.

(smiles)

The chat room He is referring to is "athiests vs christians".
In which He still is a regular, same as me.

I recently invited the room to come here and participate, seems some of my loved ones accepted.

Nice to see you made it.

Wishes has usual that ....people would make referrences to the present and not the past. BUT HAVE LEARNED WHEN NO REASONABLE RESPONSES ARE AT HAND ONLY ATTACKING THE PAST MATTERS..MUST KEEP UP WITH THE JONES ...right?

I wondered how long it would take for one of you to come here and start...no long uh? Lol.

If your going to make imput in the future please at least show me the respect of reading the whole thread before asking me to repeat myself...like these here already do.

And ...if your going to end up being like some of these that bounce back and fourth to ...oh his well being to oh he's nuts....then just save yourself some finger cramping....I won't reply to you.

These are the facts.

There are faces with head structure, eye sockets and mouth sockets and depending on clarity, there are usually expressions and facial features.

This is fact.

It is fact also that when the conditions are met.
These faces appear in each photo or appear constantly in live broadcast (live video)...............keyword was....."each" ..."constantly"....and "live".

These are facts also.


It is fact that during "live video" they do not lose their form. They stay true to their form from the first moment of viewing to the last moment you look at them.
This is a fact.

These are facts. Not theories. FACTS.


Now if one of you have something intelligent to contradict one of these facts .........that will make them ..........NOT TRUE. Then do so.

By your past responses have left me laughing and wondering if there were no mirrors would you believe in yourselves.




Look its real simple.

If there were just a few of these faces .......here and there .....now and then...........scattered ..........once in a while......


I WOULD AGREE WITH ALL YOUR REPLIES AND LAUGH WITH YOU.


THAT is not what is going on here.




Lyndale

DarkMagician
14th January 2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
There are faces with head structure, eye sockets and mouth sockets and depending on clarity, there are usually expressions and facial features.
Sure there are :rub:
http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=1870269719

Suezoled
14th January 2004, 11:29 AM
Hail El Pillazo!

Prolix
14th January 2004, 09:31 PM
LPD, I have to admit, after hearing the voice of a face, you're right. They do exist. Here's a voice:

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/spectrograms/julia_sound-sm.jpg

or is this it?:

http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~bwilson/Herring_sound.wav

Prolix
14th January 2004, 09:35 PM
Sorry, here's the first voice: http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/sounds/julia.html

TheBoyPaj
15th January 2004, 10:40 AM
Look, ladies and gents. I for one am fed up with this thread always being at the top of the forum. I stopped reading it about 10 pages ago, and it had pretty much run its course then.

I beg of anyone contemplating challenging LPD on his ludicrous ideas to read through the last 17 pages of attempts and ask yourself what chances you have of convincing him of his idiocy. I'd wager they're pretty slim.

Time for this thread to end, I say, and that will only happen if you stop posting to it.

joyrex
16th January 2004, 04:00 AM
Well the thing is this is one of those forums that is cursed with one or more pseudo-sticky threads :)

Maybe after 10 replies more we could lock this thread and make it a sticky, as a bad example for a thread.

Loki
18th January 2004, 01:07 PM
Lyndale,

Hi - remember me? No? - no matter, it was a long time ago! Just wanted to say that I've been following along for a while now, and I agree with much of what you've written lately :

Well, I say faces and you say static, digital recall, noise etc...

Would appear to be at a stand still.
This is a summary that I agree with completely.

I believe that between here and there (here being here and there being any place other then here, thrue the internet) ...
Yes, 'here' is here, and 'there' is any place that is not 'here'. 100% accurate.

I really do wonder what the point of it all is sometimes.
Well, I'm going out on a limb here, because I can't actually *prove* that you think this - but it seems quite reasonable to me that you do indeed wonder what the point is. Certainly, your writing seems to reflect a certain level of confusion in relation to reality.

I can't understand sometimes why things are the way they are or will be. I just shake my head.
Again, your posts would tend to support the conclusion that "Lyndale" and "understanding" are, at best, merely aquaintances rather than close friends.

Your one day closer for knowing for sure.
Yes, we all are. Thanks for reminding me! I'd better go and enjoy the day ...

DarkMagician
18th January 2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
Look, ladies and gents. I for one am fed up with this thread always being at the top of the forum. I stopped reading it about 10 pages ago, and it had pretty much run its course then.

I beg of anyone contemplating challenging LPD on his ludicrous ideas to read through the last 17 pages of attempts and ask yourself what chances you have of convincing him of his idiocy. I'd wager they're pretty slim.

Time for this thread to end, I say, and that will only happen if you stop posting to it. Why didn't you listen to this post, Loki.
*hits Loki with a pick-axe*

Loki
18th January 2004, 07:16 PM
DarkMagician,

Why didn't you listen to this post, Loki.
*hits Loki with a pick-axe*
(loki feels slight contact on back of thick skull, turns around) Sorry ... did someone say something?

I beg of anyone contemplating challenging LPD on his ludicrous ideas to read through the last 17 pages of attempts and ask yourself what chances you have of convincing him of his idiocy.
Chances of convincing Lyndale of anything at all??? None, I should think.

I was merely endulging myself in a slight reminiscence of previous days. Lyndale is sort of a small slice of nostalgia from the "old days" of 2 years ago. You know, bit like remembering what a toothache feels like.

And on that note I'll do my civic duty and fade back into the digital static that surrounds so much of Lyndale's posts....

The Central Scrutinizer
19th January 2004, 08:49 PM
Just got back from TAM2 and was glad to see this thread was no longer at the top. I'm going to do my part to make sure it never gets up there again.

Hannibal
20th January 2004, 04:33 AM
That was truly post-modern....wait I've done it myself! dammit!

I herby vow never to post in this topic again..even for a very cheap laugh (like this one):)

Prolix
20th January 2004, 09:16 PM
Speaking of post-modern: The "Postmodern essay generator" rivals Lyndale in meaningfulness:

http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/

I too pledge not to post to this thread, except in moments of irritation or for purposes of amusement.

LightPiercingDarkness
21st January 2004, 05:23 AM
"I too pledge not to post to this thread, except in moments of irritation or for purposes of amusement." (true colors?) this is what you've done from the beginning)

Anyway.

Your all right about one thing.

After seeing what I've seen....your right. You will never change my mind.

At first when I saw the first face ...I thought cute. Hell, even after I saw the first picture with multiple ..I thought cute...but not happening (like you guys do).

But I know it dont take rocket science to figure out those faces are real.

I also believe, you believe. I believe you too know that there is something going on here. Whether your lieing because it scares you or maybe because...you really would cut off your nose to despite your face...or you really just dont give a rats ... about it. Whatever.


Just remember.

No one during the life of this thread, did ever give a logical answer has to the faces being there. This is fact. When you (cdooulgthss) figure out the definition of apparent and chance...make sure you come back and try again.

Just kills you don't it?


Lyndale

Darwin'sGoat
21st January 2004, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
No one during the life of this thread, did ever give a logical answer has to the faces being there. This is fact.

I'm assuming that you're including your explanation in there as well then.

Prolix
21st January 2004, 09:42 AM
Hi Lyndale,

Ok, ok, so they are real. Remind me again- so what?

Prolix
21st January 2004, 09:59 AM
And Lyndale,

I am (true colors) sympathetic with the stress of your position. Do you realize that you are inevitably regarded as the best the paranormal/supernatural commmunity has to offer in the way of presenting logical and convincing evidence of...whatever it is the paranormal/supernatural community is proposing? This must be a terrible burden.

It is disappointing that others from your belief system don't support you on this forum. Maybe they not only lack your skills of communication but also lack your courage or conviction?

The loneliness must be hard on you.

But whatever you do, please don't re-examine your beliefs, because your better adjustment to the real world would be my loss.

It takes a strong mind to hold onto dysfunctional beliefs, so stay strong.

Stay het too.

Beleth
21st January 2004, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
Just remember.

No one during the life of this thread, did ever give a logical answer has to the faces being there. This is fact.Actually, I gave a perfectly logical answer on page 1, which you have not yet refuted.


After seeing what I've seen....your right. You will never change my mind.Yes, yes. We have all agreed that we are at a stalemate. The question is now, "what next?" Where do you go from here?


(cdooulgthss)Um, what?

Powa
21st January 2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
(cdooulgthss)

I think he meant to say "dolts" but the demons finally got him and he's now speaking in tongues.

RussDill
21st January 2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness

But I know it dont take rocket science to figure out those faces are real.

I also believe, you believe. I believe you too know that there is something going on here. Whether your lieing because it scares you or maybe because...you really would cut off your nose to despite your face...or you really just dont give a rats ... about it. Whatever.


BTW, you might check out your walls, the figures and faces there are much more defined and real.

Prolix
21st January 2004, 03:03 PM
Beleth said, "Actually, I gave a perfectly logical answer on page 1, which you have not yet refuted."

He's right, that was a logical answer and Lyndale never "refuted" it. So I'll try to do it as I think Lyndale would. I'm familiar with his type and I think it would go more or less like this:

" I rebuke you, Beleth"

( You have to understand, the proper word is rebuke. And it's important to firmly and bravely pronounce the name of the rebukee. Usually the rebukee is somebody powerful like Satan and when you are willing to pit your magic so openly and responsibly against such bad juju, it really gains you status among your fellow congreants)

That wasn't so hard was it? Can't believe yall spent all this mental masturbation just to get this outcum.

Darwin'sGoat
21st January 2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Prolix
"I rebuke you, Beleth"

You forgot the part where you have to splash him with Holy Water (tm).

The Central Scrutinizer
21st January 2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
At first when I saw the first face ...I thought cute. Hell, even after I saw the first picture with multiple ..I thought cute...but not happening (like you guys do).


Is that when you first saw them on the Loch Ness Monster site, or after you stole them and claimed them as your own? Does your god know you are a thief?

god isn't

uruk
22nd January 2004, 07:53 AM
Wow! People here sure like to beat their heads up against a wall of stupidity. But keep it up folks, this seems to be the only source of human contact this poor soul has since he's too busy keeping track of demons on video tape.

This guy seems to be the type that keeps jars of urine in his closet and wears an aluminun foil suit to keep the CIA from monitoring his thoughts.

Keep doing the lords work Lyndy! Someone has to let those pesky demons know that we're on to them. (I swear to god that one of them posesses my wife once a month!) Continue to be that shining beacon of insanity that reminds us all to turn off the computer, call up some friends and remind ourselves that there are more important things in life! Otherwise we may wind up like you, poor Lyndy, and begin to belive that our tonsels are actually satan's testicles.

By the way Lyndy, how's the lawsuite going?

De_Bunk
29th January 2004, 03:17 PM
Oh yeh...

I cant keep track of the the worlds fruitcakes...

Lets get this straight..

He is the only person in the world who can see these in curtains, monitors...etc..

So he tries to convince any other kookball that these things actually exist...

And he wants to stand infront of a Judge and jury...

Along with a few other completely insane people...

Yes, i would enjoy watching a Judge recommend them to custody until they can be proven not to be a danger to the public...

PS..Why do you have to ring everything on the screen grabs....Are you the only person that can see them...

If they were that obvious...we could see them without you putting circles everywhere...

Maybe they only exist in your fantasy world...thats why no one else can see them..

Joker...

You cannot be serious...its too ridiculous for comprehension...

DB

Rolfe
29th January 2004, 03:50 PM
For pity's sake, DeBunk, the thread was dying. Did you HAVE to bump it?

Rolfe.

Prolix
30th January 2004, 11:00 AM
Yep, I reaffirm my pledge to thread-death.

Unless Lynnie returns to provide a little divertissement.

LightPiercingDarkness
30th January 2004, 12:12 PM
I've not been back because all has been said.

I know what you think of me and you know what I think of you.


This thread in itself is proof. No one has ever disproved what I have said. Sure you've offered half ass attempts of what you thought and lots of lame remarks in between. But wether you like it or not...none of you have ever proved me wrong.


It's all just a matter of time.


You want to know the real motive behind what I am doing?


Let me tell you.



You see.



We all know that they are there. We may not agree on what they are....but we know they are.


Point?



One day this will be public knowledge to the point the world will want to know more. Sssooooo....


It becomes a waiting game. Your right I am not going into any court room and look the nut.

I am waiting.


Waiting for it to be public knowledge. For when it does on a scale large enough. I will take this foundation to court and "then" make my case against this foundation and I will win. I'll win for the simple reason of being "not able to take the challenge".

You can laugh and ridicule all you want. But you remember this.

The day will come when the public knows. They may or maynot ever know what they are, but the day will come where they will believe "that they are"........and when it does. I will sue this foundation to the last brick supporting it.

Promise.


It's just a matter of time.


While waiting I will be creating threads like this.... to make ( I guess you could say) public records of the fact that I was the first one to this lame foundation "stating to all I've said" and the first to request to take the challenge based on it.

Just a matter of time and one day....there won't be a server for you to even email em.


So you go ahead with your ridicule and have fun.

It is easy to look thrue this thread and see who was above it and who wasn't.

Just a matter of time.

I'll be back one day...who knows maybe to start a whole new thread just for kicks so some of you can show how smart you are (smiles).

Take care

"L"

Lyndale

RussDill
30th January 2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness
I've not been back because all has been said.

I know what you think of me and you know what I think of you.


What would be proof for you that they are not real?

If I could make an image out of random noise, you'd expect there to be less faces, right? Since what ou are observing is not random. So a test.

I will provide you with two sets of images, one, taken from a camera in the dark, and another, generated randomly by a computer. You will compare the images, find the faces, and tell me which ones are which.

Should be easy, right?

LightPiercingDarkness
30th January 2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by RussDill


What would be proof for you that they are not real?

If I could make an image out of random noise, you'd expect there to be less faces, right? Since what ou are observing is not random. So a test.

I will provide you with two sets of images, one, taken from a camera in the dark, and another, generated randomly by a computer. You will compare the images, find the faces, and tell me which ones are which.

Should be easy, right?


We both know this would end up in nothing but ridicule.

If you and the others don't understand the impossibilities of this reaccurance, then there is nothing I can do.
You seem more intent on disproving then you do 'what if?

You'll never be able to tell Him, you didn't see. Just remember that. He will.

Something great has happened before you and your missing it.


Lyndale

RussDill
30th January 2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness



We both know this would end up in nothing but ridicule.


I disagree, if you were wrong, I would not ridicule you. If I was wrong, I would not expect you to ridicule me.


If you and the others don't understand the impossibilities of this reaccurance, then there is nothing I can do.


Actually, I've done some calculations with a napkin and a pen, and I think I do understand the probabilities involved. We disagree here. The proposed test should sort out the disagreements in a completely impartial way.


You seem more intent on disproving then you do 'what if?


Actually, the test would be more of an attempt to prove you are correct.


You'll never be able to tell Him, you didn't see. Just remember that. He will.

Something great has happened before you and your missing it.

Lyndale

I am, completely, I don't see what is occuring as something beyond random noise. If you think that there is something occuring beyond random noise, you can prove it to us.

The Central Scrutinizer
30th January 2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by RussDill


What would be proof for you that they are not real?

If I could make an image out of random noise, you'd expect there to be less faces, right? Since what ou are observing is not random. So a test.

I will provide you with two sets of images, one, taken from a camera in the dark, and another, generated randomly by a computer. You will compare the images, find the faces, and tell me which ones are which.

Should be easy, right?

Dude, don't waste your time.

Besides, his "evidence" is nothing but stolen pictures from a Loch Ness loony website.

LightPiercingDarkness
9th July 2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer


Dude, don't waste your time.

Besides, his "evidence" is nothing but stolen pictures from a Loch Ness loony website.



Still lieing.

LightPiercingDarkness
9th July 2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer


Dude, don't waste your time.

Besides, his "evidence" is nothing but stolen pictures from a Loch Ness loony website.

Powa
10th July 2004, 12:22 AM
Hey people, Lyndale is back! Yay!

Hi Lyndale, are we in for another game of "I see faces of demons"?

NightG1
13th July 2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by LightPiercingDarkness




Still lieing.
Wow. You had six months to come up with a reply and that is the best you could come up with?

troy jones
14th July 2004, 08:39 AM
This thread made me laugh. Thanks Lyndale!

Powa
14th July 2004, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by troy jones
This thread made me laugh. Thanks Lyndale!
Yes, Lyndale is a never-ending source of amusement.

Oh yeah, *extends hand* Welcome to the forums :)

troy jones
14th July 2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Powa
Oh yeah, *extends hand* Welcome to the forums :)
Thanks. :)

joyrex
15th July 2004, 09:38 AM
Bump! :o

Charlie in Dayton
21st July 2004, 10:55 AM
Great googlymooglies in the morning! Lyndale, you delusional amateur cameraman, you! Long time no type!

Whatcha got for us this time?

Maybe something a little more recognizable? Howzabout a portrait of Kerry or Bush assembled out of static pixels? Now that one might get ya a million bucks...although how much you get to keep depends on who ya vote for...(ahem)...

billydkid
21st July 2004, 06:07 PM
Not the faces in the computer guy!!!!

Chemical_Penguin
23rd July 2004, 08:39 PM
OMG!!!

Back when I was a Junior in Highschool I was doing a paper on the reports of alien abductions and I remember getting to this person's website in class and me and my friends laughed our asses off! Can't believe he'd have the nerve to bring this junk to JREF!

I mean hell, can I have the $1 million dollar prize? Why not? I too see mysterious objects... in the freakin clouds!

stevenmcduffie
18th September 2005, 10:18 AM
I have known of him and his claims since early 2001. I am amazed, after being debunked thoroughly in the AvC chat room that he would haul this old silliness around. I explained to Lyndale that humans are pattern seeking primates and depsite this fact, I see no patterns in his demon photos. No faces, no nuttin'. Of course, Lyndale doesn't believe that humans are primates, but that is another issue.

When I first encountered Lyndale, he was trying to sell the amazing technology he used to snap pics of demons for $100 a pop. Since Lyndale was unsuccessful in selling his amazing technology I hope that Randi gives him a chance to earn the million, although I suspect that Randi probably thinks that Lyndale;s claims don't quite rise to the level of pseudo-science.

Regards,

Steve M

Yeah_Right
30th September 2005, 07:22 PM
To quote Hank Hill:"That boy ain't right"

Robaato
1st October 2005, 09:46 AM
I'd just like to point out that LightPiercingDarkness hasn't posted here in over a year, so this is all old news....

KelvinG
1st October 2005, 10:50 AM
I was going to engage Lyndale, and then I remembered what a total nutbar he is.
I've decided to do something much more productive and fulfilling. I'm going outside to repeatedly bang my head against a brick wall until I'm bleeding profusely and eventually pass out.