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gjpogiatzis
12th December 2008, 03:51 PM
Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17-18, Isaiah 13-14, 47-48; Jeremiah 50-51; etc. is America & New York City, and there are many cities & nations like Iraq which God made fit the description of Babylon in many uncommon ways (although not fully like USA & NYC) to foreshadow the fall of America & NYC. 9/11 & THE DESTRUCTION OF IRAQ (location of Ancient Babylon) WERE GOD'S WARNING THAT NYC & AMERICA WILL SOON BE MADE UTTERLY DESOLATE (ISAIAH 13) BEFORE THE FALL OF THE REST OF THE NATIONS & JESUS' SECOND COMING.

Astoundingly, there are approximately forty cities on "seven hills" (Rev. 17:9), & many of them exceedingly resemble "Babylon the great whore" of Revelation 17-18 of whose wine all the nations drink, which is described as both a "woman" & "the great city," and who commits adultery against God, as opposed to the bride of Christ mentioned immediately afterward in Rev. 19! No wonder 17:9 calls special attention to the fact that Babylon is on seven hills by saying "here is the mind that has wisdom." These many cities on seven hills include (which are all discussed thoroughly on my website):

-the source & headquarters of the anti-Christ world religions including but not limited to Judaism, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism, & Hinduism: Jerusalem, Rome where Vatican City is located and which ruled the Roman Empire before it fell, Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul which ruled the Byzantine Empire before it fell & Moscow which ruled the Soviet Union before it fell, Mecca in Saudi Arabia the pilgrimage city of Islam, Macau in China where about 93% of the population is Buddhist & which is the home of the Chinese Buddhist Communities Project "to make an important contribution to the cause of interreligious dialogue worldwide" & of the "Centre of Buddhist Studies," and Tirumala in India which is home to a Hindu temple "visited by about 60,000 people daily, making it the second most visited holy place after the Vatican in Rome"
---Catholicism & Orthodoxy have a "woman" associated with them: Virgin Mary also called "the Queen of Heaven" & "Madonna," who exceedingly resembles the "Queen of Heaven" & Queen of Babylon Semiramis who too was worshipped together with her son Tammuz who resembles Jesus in many uncommon ways

-Hollywood (sometimes called "Hollywood Babylon"), whose "Hollywood Hills" has seven hills, and which is home to many women like Madonna & Britney Spears who resemble the great harlot of whose wine "all the nations drink"
-Seattle the most irreligious city in the U.S., San Francisco (called "Babylon by the Bay") where the Church of Satan was founded in 1966, & Melbourne in Australia

New York City (a.k.a. "Gotham" or "town of fools": the city where Batman [open in new window Part Three of Table of Contents] a type of the Antichrist "king of Babylon" [Is. 14:14] rules & who originally roamed NYC): Manhattan means "island of many hills" (due to its many hills such as "Murray Hill") as well as "whiskey" (& Babylon the great whore is said in 17:2 to make the nations "drunk"!)
---apparently only town in the world officially called Babylon is in Long Island, New York, in the suburbs of New York City, which is the home of the Amityville Horror, the most famous of all haunted places as Babylon the Great which is "the habitation of devils" [Rev. 18:2](Interview with Amityville House owner)AmityvilleHorrorTruth!!!)
---the headquarters of the worldwide Church of Satan from 2001-present, formerly centered in San Francisco "the city on seven hills"!!! and of the United Nations which "reigneth over the kings of the Earth" (17:18)
---There are only seven neighborhoods with the word "hill[s]" in EACH of these boroughs of New York City: Manhattan, Staten Island, Queens, Brooklyn, as Mystery Babylon sits on "seven hills"
---Furthermore, there are many echoes of 9/11 in the Bible in connection with Babylon: for instance, all the merchants of the world weep in Revelation 18 (which is 9x2) beginning in verse 11 because Babylon the/a center of world trade has "fallen"; and the destruction of the Tower of Babylon at a time when there is a global language like English is today is mentioned only in the first 9 verses of Genesis 11.
---Furthermore, there are many uncommon resemblances between the Statue of "Liberty Enlightening the World" & both Jesus "the light of the world" (as Satan says "I will be like the most High" in Is. 14:14) and the whore of Babylon. (for much more on 9/11 in the Bible, see below, the end of the Table of Contents, & Part Three; this website argues that NYC is Babylon the Great)

Please see http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com for more, which I have worked on daily for months & which shows how the Bible reveals the meaning of everything in nature & history

Twiler
12th December 2008, 03:59 PM
Okay, please supply the following information:

1. Who do we sacrifice?
2. Where do we sacrifice them?
3. When do we sacrifice them?
4. What is the kinetic energy of an object of mass 6kg moving at 15 metres per second?

bokonon
12th December 2008, 03:59 PM
And weeks have seven days, and Wednesday is often known as "hump" day, and a hump is like a hill, we're doomed.

ETA: And "Hump"ty Dumpty sat on a wall, and Humpty Dumpty had a great fall! Mother Goose obviously foretold 9/11! All the fairy tales are resonating in a cosmic convergence of DOOM!!!!

paximperium
12th December 2008, 04:06 PM
Notice he never mentions Las Vegas, (sin city baby!!!) since it doesn't meet his arbitrary criteria.

New York City (a.k.a. "Gotham" or "town of fools": the city where Batman [open in new window Part Three of Table of Contents] a type of the Antichrist "king of Babylon" [Is. 14:14] rules & who originally roamed NYC):
This is definitely a Poe's Law candidate. No one is insane enough to believe that Batman is real!!!

I Ratant
12th December 2008, 04:09 PM
Notice he never mentions Las Vegas, (sin city baby!!!) since it doesn't meet his arbitrary criteria.


This is definitely a Poe's Law candidate. No one is insane enough to believe that Batman is real!!!
.
Obviously, the OP and his friends do.

Mojo
12th December 2008, 05:18 PM
Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17-18, Isaiah 13-14, 47-48; Jeremiah 50-51; etc. is America & New York City, and there are many cities & nations like Iraq which God made fit the description of Babylon in many uncommon ways (although not fully like USA & NYC) to foreshadow the fall of America & NYC. 9/11 & THE DESTRUCTION OF IRAQ (location of Ancient Babylon) WERE GOD'S WARNING THAT NYC & AMERICA WILL SOON BE MADE UTTERLY DESOLATE (ISAIAH 13) BEFORE THE FALL OF THE REST OF THE NATIONS & JESUS' SECOND COMING.

Astoundingly, there are approximately forty cities on "seven hills" (Rev. 17:9), & many of them exceedingly resemble "Babylon the great whore" of Revelation 17-18 of whose wine all the nations drink, which is described as both a "woman" & "the great city," and who commits adultery against God, as opposed to the bride of Christ mentioned immediately afterward in Rev. 19! No wonder 17:9 calls special attention to the fact that Babylon is on seven hills by saying "here is the mind that has wisdom." These many cities on seven hills include (which are all discussed thoroughly on my website):

-the source & headquarters of the anti-Christ world religions including but not limited to Judaism, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism, & Hinduism: Jerusalem, Rome where Vatican City is located and which ruled the Roman Empire before it fell, Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul which ruled the Byzantine Empire before it fell & Moscow which ruled the Soviet Union before it fell, Mecca in Saudi Arabia the pilgrimage city of Islam, Macau in China where about 93% of the population is Buddhist & which is the home of the Chinese Buddhist Communities Project "to make an important contribution to the cause of interreligious dialogue worldwide" & of the "Centre of Buddhist Studies," and Tirumala in India which is home to a Hindu temple "visited by about 60,000 people daily, making it the second most visited holy place after the Vatican in Rome"
---Catholicism & Orthodoxy have a "woman" associated with them: Virgin Mary also called "the Queen of Heaven" & "Madonna," who exceedingly resembles the "Queen of Heaven" & Queen of Babylon Semiramis who too was worshipped together with her son Tammuz who resembles Jesus in many uncommon ways

-Hollywood (sometimes called "Hollywood Babylon"), whose "Hollywood Hills" has seven hills, and which is home to many women like Madonna & Britney Spears who resemble the great harlot of whose wine "all the nations drink"
-Seattle the most irreligious city in the U.S., San Francisco (called "Babylon by the Bay") where the Church of Satan was founded in 1966, & Melbourne in Australia

New York City (a.k.a. "Gotham" or "town of fools": the city where Batman [open in new window Part Three of Table of Contents] a type of the Antichrist "king of Babylon" [Is. 14:14] rules & who originally roamed NYC): Manhattan means "island of many hills" (due to its many hills such as "Murray Hill") as well as "whiskey" (& Babylon the great whore is said in 17:2 to make the nations "drunk"!)
---apparently only town in the world officially called Babylon is in Long Island, New York, in the suburbs of New York City, which is the home of the Amityville Horror, the most famous of all haunted places as Babylon the Great which is "the habitation of devils" [Rev. 18:2](Interview with Amityville House owner)AmityvilleHorrorTruth!!!)
---the headquarters of the worldwide Church of Satan from 2001-present, formerly centered in San Francisco "the city on seven hills"!!! and of the United Nations which "reigneth over the kings of the Earth" (17:18)
---There are only seven neighborhoods with the word "hill[s]" in EACH of these boroughs of New York City: Manhattan, Staten Island, Queens, Brooklyn, as Mystery Babylon sits on "seven hills"
---Furthermore, there are many echoes of 9/11 in the Bible in connection with Babylon: for instance, all the merchants of the world weep in Revelation 18 (which is 9x2) beginning in verse 11 because Babylon the/a center of world trade has "fallen"; and the destruction of the Tower of Babylon at a time when there is a global language like English is today is mentioned only in the first 9 verses of Genesis 11.
---Furthermore, there are many uncommon resemblances between the Statue of "Liberty Enlightening the World" & both Jesus "the light of the world" (as Satan says "I will be like the most High" in Is. 14:14) and the whore of Babylon. (for much more on 9/11 in the Bible, see below, the end of the Table of Contents, & Part Three; this website argues that NYC is Babylon the Great)

Please see http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com for more, which I have worked on daily for months & which shows how the Bible reveals the meaning of everything in nature & history


Haven't we had this Already (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=130391)?

Foster Zygote
12th December 2008, 05:48 PM
What is the kinetic energy of an object of mass 6kg moving at 15 metres per second?

Of course, 6kg masses are non-migratory...

gjpogiatzis
12th December 2008, 08:39 PM
Notice he never mentions Las Vegas, (sin city baby!!!) since it doesn't meet his arbitrary criteria.


This is definitely a Poe's Law candidate. No one is insane enough to believe that Batman is real!!!

i didn't say that the only candidates are built on seven hills, for Rev. 17:9 says that Babylon sits on "seven heads, which are seven mountains [the Greek also means "hills"]. And there are seven kings..." I show on the website that the seven mountains also represent the seven continents of the world, for nations (such as Babylon in Isaiah) are referred to in the Bible as "mountains" at times, and a continents are either nations (like Australia) or groups of nations. Furthermore, I'm not sure if Las Vegas is built on seven hills, but it does have a "Seven Hills Community. Thus, Las Vegas would indeed fit the Mystery Babylon description (although not as perfectly as NYC and the USA, which fits it perfectly) even if it weren't built on seven hills because it too has "deceived all the nations by its sorcery," since people all over the world come to it and since it is a popular setting for movies which are exported worldwide.

see much more: www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com

Hokulele
12th December 2008, 08:51 PM
i didn't say that the only candidates are built on seven hills...


Well, then it makes the prophecies meaningless. If any city will fit the bill, confirmation bias will run rampant.

"If everyone is special, no one is."

wollery
12th December 2008, 09:54 PM
No

thesyntaxera
12th December 2008, 09:59 PM
Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17-18, Isaiah 13-14, 47-48; Jeremiah 50-51; etc. is America & New York City, and there are many cities & nations like Iraq which God made fit the description of Babylon in many uncommon ways (although not fully like USA & NYC) to foreshadow the fall of America & NYC. 9/11 & THE DESTRUCTION OF IRAQ (location of Ancient Babylon) WERE GOD'S WARNING THAT NYC & AMERICA WILL SOON BE MADE UTTERLY DESOLATE (ISAIAH 13) BEFORE THE FALL OF THE REST OF THE NATIONS & JESUS' SECOND COMING.

Astoundingly, there are approximately forty cities on "seven hills" (Rev. 17:9), & many of them exceedingly resemble "Babylon the great whore" of Revelation 17-18 of whose wine all the nations drink, which is described as both a "woman" & "the great city," and who commits adultery against God, as opposed to the bride of Christ mentioned immediately afterward in Rev. 19! No wonder 17:9 calls special attention to the fact that Babylon is on seven hills by saying "here is the mind that has wisdom." These many cities on seven hills include (which are all discussed thoroughly on my website):

-the source & headquarters of the anti-Christ world religions including but not limited to Judaism, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism, & Hinduism: Jerusalem, Rome where Vatican City is located and which ruled the Roman Empire before it fell, Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul which ruled the Byzantine Empire before it fell & Moscow which ruled the Soviet Union before it fell, Mecca in Saudi Arabia the pilgrimage city of Islam, Macau in China where about 93% of the population is Buddhist & which is the home of the Chinese Buddhist Communities Project "to make an important contribution to the cause of interreligious dialogue worldwide" & of the "Centre of Buddhist Studies," and Tirumala in India which is home to a Hindu temple "visited by about 60,000 people daily, making it the second most visited holy place after the Vatican in Rome"
---Catholicism & Orthodoxy have a "woman" associated with them: Virgin Mary also called "the Queen of Heaven" & "Madonna," who exceedingly resembles the "Queen of Heaven" & Queen of Babylon Semiramis who too was worshipped together with her son Tammuz who resembles Jesus in many uncommon ways

-Hollywood (sometimes called "Hollywood Babylon"), whose "Hollywood Hills" has seven hills, and which is home to many women like Madonna & Britney Spears who resemble the great harlot of whose wine "all the nations drink"
-Seattle the most irreligious city in the U.S., San Francisco (called "Babylon by the Bay") where the Church of Satan was founded in 1966, & Melbourne in Australia

New York City (a.k.a. "Gotham" or "town of fools": the city where Batman [open in new window Part Three of Table of Contents] a type of the Antichrist "king of Babylon" [Is. 14:14] rules & who originally roamed NYC): Manhattan means "island of many hills" (due to its many hills such as "Murray Hill") as well as "whiskey" (& Babylon the great whore is said in 17:2 to make the nations "drunk"!)
---apparently only town in the world officially called Babylon is in Long Island, New York, in the suburbs of New York City, which is the home of the Amityville Horror, the most famous of all haunted places as Babylon the Great which is "the habitation of devils" [Rev. 18:2](Interview with Amityville House owner)AmityvilleHorrorTruth!!!)
---the headquarters of the worldwide Church of Satan from 2001-present, formerly centered in San Francisco "the city on seven hills"!!! and of the United Nations which "reigneth over the kings of the Earth" (17:18)
---There are only seven neighborhoods with the word "hill[s]" in EACH of these boroughs of New York City: Manhattan, Staten Island, Queens, Brooklyn, as Mystery Babylon sits on "seven hills"
---Furthermore, there are many echoes of 9/11 in the Bible in connection with Babylon: for instance, all the merchants of the world weep in Revelation 18 (which is 9x2) beginning in verse 11 because Babylon the/a center of world trade has "fallen"; and the destruction of the Tower of Babylon at a time when there is a global language like English is today is mentioned only in the first 9 verses of Genesis 11.
---Furthermore, there are many uncommon resemblances between the Statue of "Liberty Enlightening the World" & both Jesus "the light of the world" (as Satan says "I will be like the most High" in Is. 14:14) and the whore of Babylon. (for much more on 9/11 in the Bible, see below, the end of the Table of Contents, & Part Three; this website argues that NYC is Babylon the Great)

Please see http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com for more, which I have worked on daily for months & which shows how the Bible reveals the meaning of everything in nature & history


Oh dude. Super sweet. I always new that reality wasn't nearly as complicated as some would have me believe. They read too much non-fiction when they should have just read the bible. All of the answers are in there. Consider me now your willing servant and acolyte. Anything you say I will believe. Command me Lord.

YAY!

Zep
12th December 2008, 10:01 PM
I'll ask again, George: What have you got against New York City? Did some girl dump you there? Someone refuse you a job? What's your beef, man!

bruto
12th December 2008, 10:25 PM
.....

New York City (a.k.a. "Gotham" or "town of fools": the city where Batman [open in new window Part Three of Table of Contents] a type of the Antichrist "king of Babylon" [Is. 14:14] rules & who originally roamed NYC).......

Ah Batman! He adds such an air of scholarly sophistication to any serious discussion of religion. I mean, how can you possibly argue against a scriptural exegesist who has the skinny on BATMAN!

Seriously, dude....I hate to break it to you, but Batman is - well, not to put too fine a point on it, but he's kind of apocryphal? Not really quite what you need to convince people that you're in command of reality, if you get my drift.

Zep
12th December 2008, 10:31 PM
Why can my tingly spider-sense suddenly be saying this is all a scam to get material for a book or comic or something...

Nancarrow
13th December 2008, 12:17 AM
Please see http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com for more, which I have worked on daily for months & which shows how the Bible reveals the meaning of everything in nature & history

Here are some other things that people out there have been "working on daily for months", indeed usually years or even decades:

- Clean and abundant energy technologies
- Treatments for cancer, AIDS, polio, depression, heart disease, even rabies
- Artificial Intelligence
- Theories of Quantum Gravity
- Water desalination and purification techniques for mass use in Africa
- Genetic engineering to provide more nutritious and disease-resistant crops

Imagine what you could do with a little change in focus.

leonAzul
13th December 2008, 04:40 AM
Here are some other things that people out there have been "working on daily for months", indeed usually years or even decades:

- Clean and abundant energy technologies
- Treatments for cancer, AIDS, polio, depression, heart disease, even rabies
- Artificial Intelligence
- Theories of Quantum Gravity
- Water desalination and purification techniques for mass use in Africa
- Genetic engineering to provide more nutritious and disease-resistant crops

Imagine what you could do with a little change in focus.

Maybe find a cure for semantic pareidolia?

RandFan
13th December 2008, 11:04 AM
This is definitely a Poe's Law candidate. No one is insane enough to believe that Batman is real!!!:rolleyes:

I am Batman!

RandFan
13th December 2008, 11:11 AM
i didn't say that the only candidates are built on seven hills, for Rev. 17:9 says that Babylon sits on "seven heads, which are seven mountains [the Greek also means "hills"]. And there are seven kings..."

No, no, no... you're doing it all wrong.

Babylon is Hollywood and the 7 heads are the 7 dwarfs. Snow white is the great whore.

There are 7 notes in an octave. There were 7 movie musicals that won 7 academy awards each. There are 7 peaks above Hollywood. There are 7 major studios. There were 7 major advances in motion camera technology. There are 7 members of the city council. There are 7 amendments to the city charter. There are 7 movies with the number 7 in them.

Dude, it goes on and on. Nothing fits the numerology better than Hollywood.

Foster Zygote
13th December 2008, 01:03 PM
John of Patmos was making a reference to Rome, which is famous for its seven hills: Aventine Hill, Caelian Hill, Capitoline Hill, Esquiline Hill, Palatine Hill, Quirinal Hill, and Viminal Hill.

RandFan
13th December 2008, 01:25 PM
John of Patmos was making a reference to Rome, which is famous for its seven hills: Aventine Hill, Caelian Hill, Capitoline Hill, Esquiline Hill, Palatine Hill, Quirinal Hill, and Viminal Hill.:(

Now you're just being nasty. You and your reality. This is much bigger and more important than facts. Clearly there was a hidden meaning in the bible. Like one great big cross word puzzle because god is obscure and likes to play games.

See: Decoding the bible Jesus, God, Satan, Devil: Sex from heaven: (http://www.johannes-erasmus.blogspot.com/) the bible is encoded in the meaning of words, mirrored images, symbols, hypothesis, parables and riddles. if we can decode these the bible will become an open book. read these fantastic revelations.

(YES! Sex from heaven)

paximperium
13th December 2008, 01:30 PM
:rolleyes:

I am Batman!
No, I am Batman.

Foster Zygote
13th December 2008, 02:45 PM
No, I am Batman.

Well I'm Spartacus.

stilicho
13th December 2008, 02:57 PM
John of Patmos was making a reference to Rome, which is famous for its seven hills: Aventine Hill, Caelian Hill, Capitoline Hill, Esquiline Hill, Palatine Hill, Quirinal Hill, and Viminal Hill.

And London has its Seven Dials too! Mind you, there were no clocks in biblical times. No New York either. And no Batman.

Mojo
13th December 2008, 04:01 PM
And London has its Seven Dials too! Mind you, there were no clocks in biblical times.


But there were sundials.

Hokulele
13th December 2008, 04:33 PM
I am Batman!


JoX-HkOcEuE

"Would you like to ride with Batman?"

bruto
13th December 2008, 05:22 PM
But there were sundials.

It's also said that Alexander the Great, perhaps under Aristotle's tutelage, invented a way of telling time by soaking a cloth in chemicals that changed color at a predictable rate. One could wrap it around one's wrist, and estimate elapsed time. It was known, of course, as Alexander's rag timeband.

Don't nominate. It's stolen.

bokonon
13th December 2008, 09:28 PM
:rolleyes:

I am Batman!

No, I am Batman.

Well I'm Spartacus.
I'm Gary Seven, son of Double-O Seven and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

learner
13th December 2008, 09:39 PM
Think of a number between 3 and 10... Spooky eh! I am satan...or was it batman? I just got up. Anyway I live at the bottom of a hill called."Babylon hill" ( realy) should i move to the top? Back to bed I think..

Delvo
13th December 2008, 10:15 PM
Well I'm Spartacus.This... is... Sparta!

Kopji
13th December 2008, 10:51 PM
If you ever let go of all this religious nonsense - it is like having spent your entire life looking at the ground for lost change and then suddenly looking up and noticing the gardens and mountains for the first time. Give it a try.

stilicho
14th December 2008, 01:21 AM
But there were sundials.

Aha! So it was London after all!

I knew I saw the Anti-Christ Batman in the background of a street scene in "My Fair Lady".

paximperium
14th December 2008, 01:38 AM
This... is... Sparta!
If we are going retro...uh hum...
"Wasssuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!"

six7s
14th December 2008, 01:41 AM
Well, then it makes the prophecies meaningless. If any city will fit the bill, confirmation bias will run rampant.

"If everyone is special, no one is."Is Lake Wobegon built on seven hills?

Please see http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com for more, which I have worked on daily for monthsFAIL: 115 Errors, 78 warning(s) (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.primaryproofsofchristia nity.com%2F&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0)

six7s
14th December 2008, 01:44 AM
I'm Gary Seven, son of Double-O Seven and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.I guess I'm screwed, huh?

Agatha
14th December 2008, 03:03 AM
Sheffield (in the North of England) was said by George Orwell to be built on seven hills. Guess that trumps Rome and New York, hey?

H'ethetheth
14th December 2008, 04:16 AM
I suspect batcrap may have been the word he was looking for.

Mojo
14th December 2008, 06:55 AM
No one is insane enough to believe that Batman is real!!!


But it is real (http://www.loweringthebar.net/2008/12/batman-reportedly-planning-to-sue-batman.html).

Careful, or it'll sue you.

H'ethetheth
14th December 2008, 07:14 AM
But it is real (http://www.loweringthebar.net/2008/12/batman-reportedly-planning-to-sue-batman.html).

Careful, or it'll sue you.It seems the end is nigh. The world will soon end in a torrent of stupid.

bruto
14th December 2008, 08:26 AM
FAIL: 115 Errors, 78 warning(s) (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.primaryproofsofchristia nity.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0)Let's see how long it takes to find that he did that on purpose to come up with such an obviously significant holy number to prove that html is the devil's language (hail the magnificent lucifer).

Beerina
14th December 2008, 08:48 AM
All history (ex.9/11) explained by Rev.13,17-18: Antichrist & Babylon (NYC,USA)

Ironically, in a sense, this is tragically true, although not in the way you mean, by a long shot. :( :rolleyes:

Baby Nemesis
14th December 2008, 01:16 PM
Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17-18, Isaiah 13-14, 47-48; Jeremiah 50-51; etc. is America & New York City, and there are many cities & nations like Iraq which God made fit the description of Babylon in many uncommon ways (although not fully like USA & NYC) to foreshadow the fall of America & NYC. 9/11 & THE DESTRUCTION OF IRAQ (location of Ancient Babylon) WERE GOD'S WARNING THAT NYC & AMERICA WILL SOON BE MADE UTTERLY DESOLATE (ISAIAH 13)

If I was God, I'd be able to think of far more entertaining things to do to New Yourk City than destroy it.

For example:

God could make those seven hills seven times steeper overnight.
He could turn all the water in the harbour into shaving cream.
He could turn all the roads into dense forest in the middle of the night.
He could make it snow twice a day every weekday even in summer, coinciding with the rush hour.
He could shrink all the people till they were only half the size they were before.
He could turn all their cars into canoes.
He could turn the sports stadiums into garden centres.
He could turn all the sponge cake in the shops into real sponge.
He could turn all the things in their museums into blocks of cheese.
He could turn all the office blocks overnight into bird cages full of chirping birds.
He could turn the parks overnight into muddy fields full of cows.
He could turn all the computers in the city into blocks of marzipan.

Wouldn't that be more fun than destroying it?

RandFan
14th December 2008, 01:45 PM
If I was God, I'd be able to think of far more entertaining things to do to New Yourk City than destroy it.

For example:

God could make those seven hills seven times steeper overnight.
He could turn all the water in the harbour into shaving cream.
He could turn all the roads into dense forest in the middle of the night.
He could make it snow twice a day every weekday even in summer, coinciding with the rush hour.
He could shrink all the people till they were only half the size they were before.
He could turn all their cars into canoes.
He could turn the sports stadiums into garden centres.
He could turn all the sponge cake in the shops into real sponge.
He could turn all the things in their museums into blocks of cheese.
He could turn all the office blocks overnight into bird cages full of chirping birds.
He could turn the parks overnight into muddy fields full of cows.
He could turn all the computers in the city into blocks of marzipan.

Wouldn't that be more fun than destroying it?:) Oh, I like this post. Yes, why is it that we ordinary mortals could think of so many better solutions to problems than god. Could it be that humans are problem solving beings and it is easier to solve problems by learning from past mistakes and our modern solutions are ever so much better than ancient bronze age ones? And it's not that humans are smarter than an omnicient god. It's just that the stories dreamed up on behalf of an omnicient god thousands of years ago are rather dated.

Perhaps.

lionking
14th December 2008, 02:04 PM
Eh, there are seven hills in Melbourne Australia? Please name them.

RandFan
14th December 2008, 02:16 PM
Eh, there are seven hills in Melbourne Australia? Please name them.Ok. Bob. Jill. Jim. Joe. Jenifer. Betty. Richard and Henry VIII.

Do I get something for the effort?

six7s
14th December 2008, 02:20 PM
Eh, there are seven hills in Melbourne Australia? Please name them.Let your fingers do the walking: whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.do (http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.do) :)

Baby Nemesis
14th December 2008, 02:46 PM
Oh, I like this post. Yes, why is it that we ordinary mortals could think of so many better solutions to problems than god. Could it be that humans are problem solving beings and it is easier to solve problems by learning from past mistakes and our modern solutions are ever so much better than ancient bronze age ones?

It seems so.

But then, if I was God, I might discover there were dilemmas when I was thinking of interfering to change something in the world that I'd never dreamed I'd have as a mortal imagining I was God. Here's an example of the kinds of dilemmas I might face, from this philosophy humour page: Trolley problem: Consider the following case: (http://home.sprynet.com/~owl1/trolley.htm)

A brain in a vat on Twin Earth is at the wheel of a runaway trolley. There are only two options that the brain can take: the right side of the fork in the track or the left side of the fork. There is no way in sight of derailing or stopping the trolley and the brain is aware of this, for the brain knows trolleys. The brain is causally hooked up to the trolley such that the brain can determine the course which the trolley will take.

On the right side of the track there is a single railroad worker, Jones, who will definitely be killed if the brain steers the trolley to the right. If the railman on the right lives, he will go on to kill five men for the sake of killing them, but in doing so will inadvertently save the lives of thirty orphans (one of the five men he will kill is planning to destroy a bridge that the orphan's bus will be crossing later that night). One of the orphans
that will be killed would have grown up to become a tyrant who would make good utilitarian men do bad things. Another of the orphans would grow up to become G.E.M. Anscombe, while a third would invent the pop-top can.

If the brain in the vat chooses the left side of the track, the trolley will definitely hit and kill a railman on the left side of the track, "Leftie" and will hit and destroy ten beating hearts on the track that could (and would) have been transplanted into ten patients in the local hospital that will die without donor hearts. These are the only hearts available, and the brain is aware of this, for the brain knows hearts. If the railman on the left side of the track lives, he too will kill five men, in fact the same five that the railman on the right would kill. However, "Leftie" will kill the five as
an unintended consequence of saving ten men: he will inadvertently kill the five men rushing the ten hearts to the local hospital for transplantation. A further result of "Leftie's" act would be that the busload of orphans will be spared. ... Also assume that if the brain chooses the right side of the fork, an unjust war free of war crimes will ensue, while if the brain chooses the left fork, a just war fraught with war crimes will result. ...

I Ratant
14th December 2008, 04:50 PM
What happens after the trolley mashes either guy?
Does it continue to Pittsburgh and plow into a hospital train full of wounded Iraq war vets on their way to a low-quality hospital/holding area where they will be triaged, or.... on the other line, run headlong into the railroad yard at Poughkeepsie, smashing into the Palin for 2012 train, thereby short-circuiting the abortive (anyway) run for the Presidency?

lionking
14th December 2008, 07:20 PM
Ok. Bob. Jill. Jim. Joe. Jenifer. Betty. Richard and Henry VIII.

Do I get something for the effort?

Okay thanks for that, I think.

Not that I expected a sensible answer, but it really pisses me off that someone can use a line that there are "seven hills in Melbourne" and walk away from the thread without even attempting to justify this statement. There are at least 30 suburbs I know of with "Hill" or "Hills" in their name.

Still though, it would have been cool being one of the modern day Babylons.

RandFan
14th December 2008, 07:29 PM
Okay thanks for that, I think. Sorry. It just seemed too easy.

Not that I expected a sensible answer, but it really pisses me off that someone can use a line that there are "seven hills in Melbourne" and walk away from the thread without even attempting to justify this statement. Which is why I made the statements I did about 7 musicals. Just because someone asserts something doesn't make it true.

I changed my mind though. Change Henry VIII to Betelgeuse.

bruto
14th December 2008, 08:52 PM
Of course. Don't sweat the boundaries too much, and count. When you reach seven, start a new set. Everything comes in sevens. It's, like, so awesome it's like mystical and everything.

Baby Nemesis
15th December 2008, 02:25 AM
What happens after the trolley mashes either guy?
Does it continue to Pittsburgh and plow into a hospital train full of wounded Iraq war vets on their way to a low-quality hospital/holding area where they will be triaged, or.... on the other line, run headlong into the railroad yard at Poughkeepsie, smashing into the Palin for 2012 train, thereby short-circuiting the abortive (anyway) run for the Presidency?

It doesn't say, but I expect it would be far more complicated than that, like the other bits. :)

For instance, on the left line, perhaps it would crash into a car going across a level crossing, and kill four people, one of whom would have saved a drowning girl who would have gone on to grow up and marry and have a child who had another child 25 years later who would invent a piece of equipment that makes life easier for deaf people, but one of whom would have bullied someone else at school so badly that he went on to become a bully himself towards his children, and they did the same to theirs and it went down through the generations.

But on the right line, perhaps it would crash into a train and kill two people, one of whom would leave his child to grow up without a loving father, the child having to put up with a few of its mother's boyfriends over the coming years who it didn't get on with, growing up less well-adjusted than it would have done with its father; but the other one it killed would be someone who spent hours in the pub and came home to be abusive to his wife each weekend. However, his son, had he remained alive to have him, would have grown up to invent a device to stop trolleys going out of control.

BTW, sorry, I should have put a gruesomeness alert on my previous post.

Nyarlathotep
15th December 2008, 08:47 AM
Well I'm Spartacus.


I'm Brian! and so is my wife.

I Ratant
15th December 2008, 10:35 AM
Babe, if a "brain-in-a-jar" has such prescience, what's it doing merely making a trolley go this way and that?
Why isn't it in government, where it can foresee the results of laws and regulations?

Baby Nemesis
15th December 2008, 01:11 PM
Jealousy, and reputation-protecting. I mean, Imagine if the story got out - "Bush upstaged by a disembodied brain in a vat"! :D

Phase Inverter
15th December 2008, 02:20 PM
4. What is the kinetic energy of an object of mass 6kg moving at 15 meters per second?


$$ K=\frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}(6\mbox{ }kg)(15\mbox{ }m/s)^2=675 J$$


I'm Gary Seven, son of Double-O Seven and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.


Ah, yes. The wonderful story of bride kidnapping from Judges 21 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=judges%2021;&version=49;)

RandFan
15th December 2008, 07:47 PM
:rolleyes: Show off.

:)

arthwollipot
15th December 2008, 08:06 PM
FAIL: 115 Errors, 78 warning(s) (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.primaryproofsofchristia nity.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0)1+1+5 = 7(1)
7x8 = 56
5+6+7 = 18
8-1 = 7(2)

Furthermore,

115x78 = 8970
8+9+7+0 = 24
2+4 = 6
115x6 = 690
6+9+0 = 15

78 - 77(1,2) = 1

Therefore, 115. QED.

Hokulele
15th December 2008, 08:07 PM
1+1+5 = 71
7x8 = 56
5+6+7 = 18
8-1 = 72

Furthermore,

115x78 = 8970
8+9+7+0 = 24
2+4 = 6
115x6 = 690
6+9+0 = 15

78 - 771,2 = 1

Therefore, 115. QED.


Rut, rut, GSR, rut.

six7s
15th December 2008, 11:15 PM
1+1+5 = 7(1)
7x8 = 56
5+6+7 = 18
8-1 = 7(2)

Furthermore,

115x78 = 8970
8+9+7+0 = 24
2+4 = 6
115x6 = 690
6+9+0 = 15

78 - 77(1,2) = 1

Therefore, 115. QED.That sure must have been* some birthday celebration!

:D

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* or still is

Roadtoad
16th December 2008, 10:09 PM
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